TF2: Spy Psychology - Spy has a Gun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- #TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
Spy has a gun, a phrase often repeated among spies due to how some neglect it, and this is why it's so good...
Thanks to @martincitopants for the cameo, and thanks to @CareBear for creating the audio waveforms in the intro.
0:00 Intro
1:32 How the gun works
4:29 When to use it
7:05 Le'tranger
9:14 Ambassador
11:11 Enforcer
14:07 Diamondback
15:05 Outro
Music used (in order of appearance):
• Team Fortress 2 - Red ...
Hi-Fi Rush - The Pulse
Paper Mario TTYD - X-Naut Fortress Remix
Zelda OoT - Kokiri Forest
ULTRAKILL - Debussy Clair de Lune
Mario & Luigi Dream Team - Antasma's Theme
Pizza Tower - Peppino's Sauce Machine
Bloons TD 5 - Main Theme
Luigi's Mansion 2 - Possessed Clockworks Battle
Deep Rock Galactic - Dance of the Dreadnought
Cuphead - Threatin' Zeppelin
Super Smash Bros - Character Select
Bowser's Fury - Fort Flaptrap
Super Mario 3D World - Piranha Creeper Creek
(That one some from DOOM which I can't name due to false copyright)
Paper Mario TTYD - Shadow Sirens
Banjo-Kazooie - Gruntildas Lair
ULTRAKILL - Death Odyssey
DOOM - The Imps Song
Chris Christodoulou - Moisture Deficit
Zelda ToTK - Hateno Ancient Tech Lab
Dark Souls III - Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Pizza Tower - What's on the Kids Menu
Mario Party 1 - Mushroom Bank
Super Mario Odyssey - Steam Gardens
Chris Christodoulou - A Boat Made from a Sheet of Newspaper
The Binding of Isaac Antibirth - Innocence Mangled
One-Winged Angel
• Portal 2 - Science Is ...
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"If knife don't work, gun. If gun don't work... run"
10/10
noice
How is this only have 1 reply And 55 likes?
"And if dat don't work, use more gun."
- some texan guy with 11 PhDs
Nigerundayo
if run dont work
you're done
The ten 10 hour Pyro waddling around the corner is still Spy's greatest enemy. As it is immune to any psychological damage.
Can't fool a player's game sense if they have no game sense.
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@@Gfr4OfficalYT2020
Ten 10
(i think thats a 10 hour burst man reference)
5:36 "If a knife don't work - use a gun. And if that don't work - use more gun." (said some strange texan spy probably)
Me
That’s engineer
@@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160r/woooosh
Engineer litteraly gave tips to his greatest enemy 🤦♂️
@@emmanuelalvarez6487they wouldn't expect the engi having splash damage with his sentry because they only have gun, and not rocket launcher, genius if you think about it
Was not expecting Martin to show up, I was pleasantly surprised and you did a really good job mimicking his editing style
He probably did that segment of the video himself
I thought that he is martains new editor
@@themedic7933 there is literally a message that says Jonto edited it right after the cameo ends
@@zaggyzombieYe i see that now
The drive is long
It’s still the most ridiculous fact that they nerfed the revolver that takes skill to get crits with, but not the one that just hands you free crits with no falloff for doing what spy does normally.
Did the diamondback even have the current stats?
because they're limited, you can't just stay in one spot and become the sniper© you're gonna need to go to get those in close range
Walk to the enemy teleporter
Sap the entrance while mashing shots at it
Have two crits
2 tap the Medic from across the map
(Also while being a diet stock revolver when it has no crits is absurd like what the hell)
@@kylepangilinan9075 it didn't use to get crits like that
@@vyor8837 That isn't relevant though, as in its current state, that is what it can do. Even at its worst, it could still be used as a diet stock revolver with no crits without losing too many important thresholds, while also getting perfect accuracy 102s that need no increased aim for the price of... playing Spy. There was never an adjustment in playstyle at any point in the weapon's existence.
Who would know that spy had a gun
Who knew
not me i thought while he was sapping my shit that i could just stand in corner
good point
Holy f*ck I just noticed
wait really?
I am very pleased with the amount of Enforcer love given in this video, people usually just shrug it off, but you show that it has value, and I applaud you for that.
Poor enforcer. It's not like it's significantly bad, it just really doesn't justify equipping it very often since the fire rate penalty is more relevant than its upsides most of the time, so it's basically just a 20% slower revolver (though it still fires faster than the shotguns do)
I'm with ya one who enforces the gun is fantastic in a lot of great cases people just don't think outside the box, including poor omega here who doesn't see the useful utilities with other ways to put on the hurt he just doesn't see
@@OmegaRC59I would argue the opposite. 0.1 of a second is pretty negligible overall - it's far from slow, you just now fire at the same rate as all the shotguns and grenade launchers (stock = 0.5 p/sec ; enforcer = 0.6 p/sec). It's worth being able to 2 shot light classes and 3 shot pyros/demos + the added bonus to screw with spies and wrangler engies
Yeah. Never even realized it bypassed dead ringer resistances. Definetly need to give it more of a try.
6:14 Spyin’s a good job mon pote. (Mon pote: French for mate)
We also need a soundtrack for the intros, these songs are fire!
As a spy main, I'll give you guys a little secret, using your gun will make you land more trickstabs and you don't even have to hit your shots. So, you can fire away with the revolver and when you get close, you can hit them with a matador or lvl 2 stab depending on your position and your target's
wait how? is it like throwing them off or something?
People probably associate the gun with bad spies because all the trickstabbers forget that spy has a gun so they don’t expect to get trickstabbed
You actually see this in action during the last clip of the intro and outro sequence
@wizardofthedumb6640 somewhat. People might start to habitually return to dodging bullets rather than running away-which gives the spy time to close the gap.
@@Jontohil2 hey im a spy main and i have a question. what do you think the game would be like if spy had a gun?
Here's a spy tip i thought of
If you manage to sap an enemy sentry and kill the engineer maintaining it, but you just barely survive the fight with low health, don't sap the nearby dispenser first, disguise as a teammate and gain some health back, then sap it, to be really safe, disguise as an engineer, most players don't think to check any friendly buildings and the engineers that built them, i tried it once, no one even noticed that the guy i disguised as didn't own the dispenser, until i sapped it of course.
It’s also worth noting that dispensers restore your cloak even while your cloaked, so there’s sometimes benefits for keeping the dispenser up and running until you have no more use for it, or just let your teammates finish the job once the nest becomes overrun.
@@Jontohil2 now that i think about it, is "spy psychology - dealing with engineers" next?
@@toastyboi8737 Ah yes, talking about how to counter a class the Spy was literally made to counter.
@@nonproductiveproduction spy isn't engineer's hard counter(that's demoman's role), spy's role is to sabotage and pick off the enemy team one by one, sapping buildings is just a piece of the whole pie.
@@toastyboi8737 Well you don't need a whole video about it, just sap Sentry, backstab the Engie, finish off with your gun, done.
11:04 is peak TF2.
Beautiful animation and to-the-point information, I can’t wait for your channel to pop off.
Most cursed thing about the diamondback: You just killed the heavy, medic comes at you, and when you pull out the gun you find out you somehow have 12 crits ready(you sapped a sentry nest and harassed an f2p sniper a few times)
Jontohil2 x Martincitopants; the crossover we never asked for, but the one we deserve.
But yeah, removing long-range crits on the Ambassador when they already gave range falloff to said crits was fucking asinine, and I'm still waiting for someone at Valve to realize Jungle Inferno/Blue Moon left us with an utterly messy weapon balance. *_For six years._*
B O A T
BOAT
i love you guys both.
*B* *O* *A* *T*
B O A T
Hell naw fuck Sniper 2 Electric Boogaloo
Man the amount of quality you put into your videos, you’re super underrated. Hope you get way more popular in the future 👍
the Deep Rock Galactic reference for the pyro is very funny. But I would love to see some DRG game play, on the second channel.
Honestly top tier stuff.
Yes, Martin sent me here. But I checked out some of your other videos first, and your editing and humor are incredible. Exactly the kind of TF2-ber I love watching and have been dying for content from.
4:43 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER!
ROCK AND STONE
ROCK N ROLL
ROCK AND STONE FOREVER ⛏️
ROCK AND STOOONE
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE
I'm currently only using the Diamondback in VSH. It's arguably the best Spy gun there, since you get 2 crits for every stab landed on Saxton's rock-solid backside.
Funnily enough it’s the only time I’ll actually use the Diamondback against real players since it’s actually balanced there
@@Jontohil2 how can you not use the diamondback against real players, he's the most bullied class and i just love punishing overconfident players
@@bruschetta7711 because it hurts them more when you’re actually good at the game
@@bruschetta7711
"Professionals have standards"
_- Jontohil2, I think_
@@X-SPONGEDsir that is a Sniper quote
3:30 i really didn't expect this collab
The amount of effort that must've gone into the intro alone is insane. This man is criminally underrated
6:38 Wolfenstein reference...
anyways really well made video from you as always lol
A way I've described the l'etranger and had it been described to me is as follows: "It's still a revolver"
32 damage is still 32 damage and is nothing to scoff at, it's still great burst damage. It may be less, but you're still chunking a quarter of a light class's health and they're really not going to appreciate that.
l'etranger? i think you mean fidvsjfusndoshtjajdjxivjsksofjrjsjfjfjebrjgjd
"LETRANGER IS A GUN"
lay tranjay
It'a funny because the Liberty Launcher gets shit on for being weaker than stock, even with an extra rocket.
@@darreltembak4043 I think thats mostly due to the fact that the rocket launcher is already a very inconsistent weapon, and the liberty launcher, unlike the l'etranger, doesn't have any kind of primary passive benefit you would be using it for.
L'etranger gets away with lower damage because dealing damage was never it's selling point. The cloak is, I think most people can agree it's better to at least HAVE that option to defend yourself.
The Liberty Launcher's whole point is being soldier's primary damage source, but it actively punishes you for using it as intended and barely gives you an upside to compensate.
I get a small flash of terror whenever I see a spy pull out his gun. Be on the receiving end of being shot enough, you know it does way more damage than you'd think.
sus
5:39 If gun don't work:
...
Use more gun
12:49 also note that it doesn't pierce the resistance Saxton Hale gets while charging up a charge attack. This fact is extremely disappointing and has ruined my life-long dream of being a VSH gunspy main.
Enforcer also ignores damage vulnerabilities, like Pain Train.
I love how valve just turned enforcer from a close-range gunspy gun to gun that supposed for sniping, and amby from a sniping gun to a close-range gun. The thing is wrong with amby nerf was the fact that it was dropped in the same update when sniper takes his bow, like, you know, "sniper is not supposed to be a close/mid-range fighter", and they nerfed the huntsman in the same upd... Oh, wait!
@@NibelungenwarmongersSame for jarate bushwacka, Sniper is "weak at close range". So of course they had to balance Spy so he’s weak at long and medium range using this (the falloff starts way too close)
@@Cubicwar not If you nerf the quickscopes or kuntsman it would be as bad as amby nerf. It was added as an alternative playstyles, just bring back old amby/enforcer and don't nerf the sniper. Gunspy/amby spyper was legit and balanced playstyles same with huntsman today.
@@Cubicwarthe diamondback exists and has no dmg fall off
@@ibymalik4139 I was refering to the ambassador, since that was their excuse for nerfing it
8:39 Isn't the Big Earner also capable of restoring Dead Ringer cloak? Amazing video either way! :)
it is, that's why, if you wanna be the annoying neighborhood spy, you pick dead ringer, big earner, and the Diamondback
@@mickafra1564actually the l'entranjer is a better adding because you can reload the dead ringer faster and abuse the speed bust to evolve in the feared "speed spy"
@@jacopovictorpiraina7235 You move fast, you kill fast, and you die fast.
@@gratefulgamer7907 Life simulator speedrun
dead ringer + the stranger (+ spycicle for anti-fire, kunai to exploit f2ps for HP) --> tank spy
dead ringer to parry deadly damage, decloak instantly with speed for dodge-tanking, land four shots, parry deadly damage again
you can even switch to an off angle, at the cost of needing to land more shots before tanking again
(note: you are still very fragile with a large amount of time without big damage resistances, so this is more like a "mosquito spy" than actual tank spy. unless you convince a medic to try it out with you, or do the "exploit f2p" route)
11:58 "crits can also one shot light classes" *proceeds to kill two soldiers (aka not a light class)*
The amount of spies I killed with my enforcer are still way too high. I love every single spy that gets confused in chat when I still deal full damage when they tried to dead ringer on me.
Spy doesn't have a gun 16:17
Someone beat you to it
@@Jontohil2i know i had to compleat the payment and everything xD
True
ARE YOU SURE SIR? He has a gun!
@@Jontohil2 too bad, the hoovy and stickies are the same color
once I went to an anime convention dressed up as the Blu spy. I made everything myself- stock watch, stock knife, a dead ringer (in case the watch wasn't able to be finished in time) and a gun. The guards at the convention didn't allow the gun to be brought into the convention, despite it not posing any threat whatsoever. Maube they feared the gun's power??
You probably made it too realistic
Hey, have you ever thought that the Spy is the class that benefits most from the color of the team he's on? Blue makes him stand out, but the red team's suit is closer to brown, which is the predominant color on most maps.
Hearing more about the Enforcer's stats entices me on wanting to use it. I can imagine the situations where "resistances" become useless during or fleeing a fight.
3:10 Solemn Vow : but what about me?
Jontohil2 : Shut up
An interesting device. Can't believe you modded it in for Spy so well
Thanks for pointing out the use of the enforcer to annoy engineers. It's so much fun when im playing spy and I hate it when im playing engineer
4:10 HA, you don’t have self-defense enshrined in your constitution!
The rogue like part is sooo good, i died laughing. Loved the whole thing of course, your editing is out of this world. Keep up the nice work!
Joins server, runs toward enemy team, stock revolver, and no disguise.
Kills 8 health soldier. Dies.
Refuses to elaborate.
Probably free to play if only because they refused to elaborate
I like how you made a refrence to demoknight when you mention vacinator medics being vulnerable to melee damage
The editing is perfect in this, but can I shine some light on the IMPECCABLE music choices?
i laughed my ass off with the first 2 minutes thinking bro was simply explaining to all of us how the gun works like we had no idea LMAO (btw nice Martin crossover lol)
Finally, the moment we've all been waiting for.
Something I like to do as Spy is to use the disguise kit to blend with my own team. It can be really useful for team fights since you can pretend to be a class people will prioritize less and expose their back to in favor of targeting someone else. It can also trip people up with the Enforcer as you can chase the enemy while pretending to hold a melee while getting the bonus damage.
I put "spy has a gun" as a description on my strange killstreak ambassador as a tribute to you*
*before this vid
keep up the good work!
14:07
Innocence mangled, I see you're a man of culture as well.
For me personally, I am not shy to use the gun because I came from other shooters but enjoy playing spy. I use the gun at every opportunity where I don’t backstab. Snipe low hp people? Here you go. Fight the entire team with amby? Here you go ez.
Spy’s gun is one of the most consistent guns in the game imo
Your threat to blow up the Red Hoovy doesn't scare me, Jonto. Those are red stickybombs. The Hoovy was safe all along.
So, just as your threat has no teeth...
*_SPY HAS NO GUN_*
Diamondback and Frontier Justice are literally the only weapons that benefit by either doing your job (DB) or not doing your job (FJ, maintaining Sentry)
Jonto + Martincitopants, two of the best humours together
**I N H A L E**
yej
This man made a joke into an actual video, what a legend.
10:57 I’d be staring at this the entire match
When he mentioned the Cursed tier of Gun, a fire siren went off near me. I only noticed it wasn't editing into the video when it kept playing after he switched sections
It's incredible how fast you've improved on editing. You're really talented with it and I hope to see it even better than now.
10:17 i wouldnt say they really went overkill. thats a fairly long distance, a distance you'd be better off just leaving to your friendly sniper. this gun isnt a mini sniper rifle, you dont sit in a corner and do 54 - 102 damage every time you click somebody's head
14:34 20 september 2023, The Diamond Back Incindent
Clicked for the interesting thumbnail and title, stayed for the professional-grade quality pacing and editing. Great work as always!
12:35 we need to find a good counter to the Shiny German, he keeps coming back
Airblast
@@dustsans3476 but we are spy
16:22 He's not gonna die from the same team stickies
i feel like the enforcer would be a very great weapon for forcing players to space out their shots with that 20% firing speed reduction
The diamondback is something else
I see a spy in a corner, assuming he's harmless and i can out dps their facestabbing
"Oh, hes got crits"
Its more like alter-Kritzkrieg Spy.
8:39 “It’s the only thing that can refill the cloak of the Dead Ringer”
Not the full truth. The Big Earner does this as well. I do think these 3 all work so well together BTW. Love this combo.
"It's time to eat ass and go fast!" -soundsmith
DAMN this whole video has a level of quality I’d expect from the How it feels to play series! GOOD JOB JON! *BRAVO*
You have no clue how much I thought I was having a stroke when Martin showed up. I'm talking quintuple takes, pinching myself, everything. Nice cameo.
9:17 ultrakill referenced
Among the best songs and the worst levels in the game. I hate that level.
YOU TAKLIN SMACK ABOUT ONNA MA FAVOURITE LEVELS?!
nah you tripping ship of fools is fun@@woahmamaawoogahonkahonka
@@Jontohil2 amazing level until I spend like two hours trying to not touch water. The hallway with water on the floor and a Cerberus in the middle is easily the single worst section in the game for me purely because I had to reset there 6 or 7 times
@@woahmamaawoogahonkahonka you know you can just..... Use the button named checkpoint right? In the setting right below the restart button?
Detonate the Stickies.
Do it.
We both know they are teamcolored so he won't take any damage.
Also there is like a 35% chance that Hoovie is actually a Spy with his Dead Ringer out, waiting for someone to attack so he can enact righteous judgement uppon them.
Wow... I'm absolutely astonished by how much you've improved since I first came across your channel! This is spectacular!
All revolvers: *Good at it’s job with some niche uses there*
Diamondback: “Hold my beer.”
Bro actually teaches us every way to use revolvers effectively and I respect that effort
Dude your vids are incredible and if you couldn’t tell i appreciate them already im just poking the algorithm:
The editing, animation, cool spymovie graphics and humor is what i live for
-(naturally) crazy tf2 fan
Spy's gun has always been far scarier than his knife, if I get killed by a backstab then I made a mistake.
But if I get killed by Spy's Revolver, I know that there was nothing that I could do.
I was personally selected for penetration by munitional purpose.
i named my revolver "SPY HAS A GUN" just because of this series
I'm so glad i found this channel again, watched a video a while back and forgot to subscribe, love the editing and humor of it!
Finally, now Spy truly has a gun
7:12 trust me i speak spanish as a first language and i can’t pronounce that
Can’t wait for “Spy Psychology: The Sapper”
The Enforcer I would say is one of Spy's best guns when ambushing people as it punishes the medic or anyone noticing they are being picked off.
Honestly the Ambassador and even Stock probably do it better
@@chordalharmony I mainly use it when 1. The engineer is wrangling or 2. Vaccinator medics. I have a strange version just saying " You made me use this "
2:04 I'm pretty sure critical hits only remove damage falloff, not ramp-up. Therefore, revolver crits would do a maximum of 180 at point blank and 120 at long range.
EDIT: This is wrong; only mini-crits work this way.
The Enforcer also had the potential to go “no u” to any low-health enemy who discovers you’re disguised.
There is so much effort put into these videos, also love the martincitopants crossover you two have very similar styles.
considering these 2 some of my favourites, that was a massive treat
also what is even worse is the hoovy is a FREE TO PLAY, MY BELOVED CHILDREN
Diamondback also shines in mvm, the only tool that helps spy to deal damage against tanks without relying on canteens or upgrades much. When they gonna nerf it I hope they'll keep it for mvm at least or buff enforcer against tanks why not lmao
For those of you that are here from martencitos post, he appears initially at 3:22
Spy’s revolver is just as fun to use a knife. I don’t know why more people don’t use it, the sound design is amazing and satisfying.
Martin's cameo was an unexpected surprise, but an incredibly welcome one.
16:28 its okay guys the hoovy and the stickys are both red they wont hurt him.
The le'tranger stands for the stranger in French i Google translated it 7:25
Thanks! Keep up the good work. I mostly play medic but I like to try and be well rounded with all the classes and your videos have helped me get my spy gameplay up to scratch. Thanks again lad!
The amount of times Jonto had to clearly resist to use a gunshot transition in this video is enough for me to have a seizure over the lack of funny flashing lights
I don't even play spy but I watch these videos religiously just cause of how well made they are ^_^
Same here. Jonto's style has even inspired me to start planning a series of Warface tutorials.
I don't even play TF2, i just find these videos very entertaining and well made.
You should, and yes you won't be good at first but that's to be expected. It's free, give it a try.
Amazing intro, as always Jon
this is for sure one of the most well edited videos I've seen on youtube, nice job man.
Guys I have a question. Does the spy from tf2 have something other than the knife, invis-watch, sapper, and disguise kit?
In the case of ambassador, it can(probably) also be used as a ranged backstab at home, due to the fact that you can see the enemies's health(so you can find those under, like, 100 hp), oneshot them before anyone notices you and dip to kill another day. However, the damage penalty hinders such use
However, that is just how my logic logics, i don't even play tf2(i have a case of shitty internet disorder)
Ah yes, the cloak and Gun spy, a rare specimen akin to a more deadly spycrab. Oft compared to a mysterious stranger, these gun spies are hilarious.
"The gun is good, the knife is evil" - Zardoz probably
Dude your videos are so cool to watch! The time it takes to edit them must be insane but the outcomes are absolutely worth it. Love the content and keep doing what you are doing (:
I’m really glad you made a video about the knife, I think it’s really underrated. I really wish valve would add a long range primary for him though, it’s really frustrating to fight someone who’s outside of melee range, something like a gun would fix this so here’s hoping next summer update we get that
Also jonto you idiot you spelt practice at 2:31
11:23 IVE HEARD THAT OKAY SOMEWHERE, WHERE IS IT FROM
Ness from earthbound?
you have earned my subscription, that animation work is great!
Ok, ok, the high level of quality that pours out of every frame of this video is enough, you don't have to threaten a hoovy you monster!