8:38 *postive feedback loop It’s not a Jonto video without a grammatical error EDIT: my fucking god the first word of this comment is a typo, I’m not even going to correct it because of the irony
Jonto as the typical trickstab spy main that everyone hates when I enter a server, this advice was genuinely good and true and I think people should take it more seriously than they alr are. During my lower hours I found myself using the same flanks and being frustrated, progressively doing worse and worse, and being scared of failing again but what I didn't know was failure was part of the path of being a cracked spy main and keeping your composure. Also that "it's just a game part" I still had this prob recently but once I started to relax and started thinking of it as a casual game like I'd think about playing pacman the game just flowed like water and I was getting chains pretty easily. To other beginner spy mains out there, keep going and don't let anything stop you bro, if you're far from your goa then you're only gonna get closer.
I like how this video just boils down to “you need to be mentally organized to be good at video games” and you just talk about ways of treating yourself properly and fairly for like 70% of the video. Its honestly a kinda refreshing take of gaming tutorial.
A thing to note for quick cloaking is that if you swing your knife, you cannot cloak for the entire duration of the swing animation. If you use your *GUN* , you can instantly cloak the next frame after clicking mouse 1 to fire, regardless of how far into the firing animation your revolver may be (this also applies for the sapper as well)
top 5 mistakes i made when starting to play Spy: -attempting to butterknife people chasing me instead of just shooting them -thinking that the enemy players are deaf and decloacking too close -not using ammo packs to refill my cloak -trying to fight the long range class at close range and instantly dying to jarate+bushwacka, a random crit, or a quickscope -believing that Medics are free kills and getting ubersawed to death as consequence
@1qxd as someone who started playing recently, I recognize my decloaking directly behind the enemy only works bc I'm probably also getting paired with newer players (one of my first times playing 2fort I heard someone who said they had just got a frontier justice for the first time and shenanigans ensued until the pybro showed up)
Istg the medic one is just I have a bad addiction of playing kunai + dead ringer, I just like to trickstab, and whenever a medic fights me, it's either i get a stab or they get a one hit krit on me despite me having over 100 HP from kunai. Oh and the decloaking one isn't 100% true. With a cloak, you can easily decloak behind an enemy ONLY if there are a lot of other noises (fighting) I often decloak a literal dead ringer when there are a lot of fighting. (of course not exactly behind them) but you know what I mean.
A week ago i was playing on 2fort and i was in a particularly spy playing mood! And while i was playing i was doing well really well! I got a 12 kill streak (my heighest as spy) with only backstabs! My team then proceeded to kick me and telling me "You can't become one of them!" "We need to save him!" Still my favourite time i have ever been kicked it TF2!
I followed your advice and looked inside. I found a Frenchman there. I truly am a monster worthy of playing Spy. Thank you, John Two Hills. Loved the cameo section and did not expect Martincitopants--great inclusion, sir, and your editing, scripting, and humor continue to be top-notch.
Spy as a class is souls-likes incarnate as a character. No matter how good you get at him, you'll always die in an embarrassing way once in a while. There's a sense of beauty in that.
something i learned while playing spy is that playing semi-aggressively can actually work. When you retreat from a fight, you could just instead turn around and go back in. People dont usually expect a teammate to be a spy as soon as they just chased one out. Its really effectivs until the paranoia kicks in
Making everyone on the enemy team Paranoid is actually Great I think. Makes them distracted, so if you can make it so everyone is paranoid enough you can swap class and make use of that paranoia amd spychecking.
8:38 Erm, 🤓 that's actually a POSITIVE Feedback loop. (Name is deceiving, yeah) but a negative feedback loop is where the loop DECREASES the stimulus that caused the loop, eventually ending it, while a positive loop increases said stimulus, which leads to the loop increasing more and more, and so on
i was having an awful time palying spy earlier today. kept requeing to no avail. then as i ragequit i decided to scroll youtube when i found this video. after watching it i decided to give it another try, already being able to point out some errors i had made before. i managed to play a 2 hour long 2fort game with the cloak and dagger, spycicle, and diamondback and topscored. the "spy loop" thing is what helped. once i realized that not every server would be the same, and that the players would find me predictable after a bit, i started switching up my paths like you said. and not ONLY did i topscore, but in the next game i also partnered up with the engineer player i had dominated in the previous round and pybro'd him. so not only did i learn to play spy effectively, but i ALSO made a new steam friend. 10/10 guide
This series has done so much to help me appreciate spy. Its a major excercise in patience but when things go well its just a good feeling, even as someone who doesnt know fancy techniques like trickstabs. As someone who plays TF2 through the insane method of changing my class every single life, it feels like the way I think changes every single time I play spy and its nice because i never have to get used to enemies being ready for me at every second. 11:38 unrelated but words cannot express how sad i was when the Rules of Nature lyrics didnt come in at the drop and how happy i was when the did a few secons later. Truly the work of a spy main to mind game even the music choice.
Actually, an anger-based negative performance making you more angry is called a *_Positive_* Feedback Loop; a Negative Feedback Loop is essentially what counter-balancing methods are, like sweating and shivering among others. So no, you didn't make up that term; you just used it wrong. :^]
I first learnt that term in a Homeostasis lesson, and it was the opposite of what I thought it was, probably because we think that negative = bad. Negative feedback is usually good as it brings the body to a stable function (e.g. temperature). Positive feedback is usually bad as it increases the usually bad change.
8:06 ISAAC :D Jonto, one thing I always bashed my head against is how enemies were more paranoid than the NPCs in Hitman 2 (the old one), and they spychecked every single player of their color. I then remembered an old advice from you and tried to get them while they were engaging in combat and... let me say it's so satisfying to kill the heavy locking down the corridor and sneak away ❤
one of my favorite ways to deal with paranoid players is to just look for easier targets or go to a different area. or both. sometimes the only winning move is not to play, so playing somewhere else and only coming back every so often leads to longer lives, at least for me
I generally don't click tab to check my death and kills, I usually use it to see if I actually kill a dead ringer spy or see if the cheater had left the game yet.
Bro used Bury the Light in a TF2 video. Mad respect. Edit: And then proceeds to use the MGRR main menu music right after, SSS video already (I'm one minute in) Edit 2: Another based DMC reference 7:46
The music choice for this video was absolutley perfect! DMC, The binding of isaac (wait, what? hell yeah!) and Metal Gear Rising, all have banger soundtracks
As a (semi-aggressive) engineer main, I can confirm that switching class is very important for relaxing a little your brain. Also I'm trying to get better at spy to complete a Foundry achievement. Very nice content, I would recommend it for everyone just to learn a little this bizarre class
about a year ago i randomly downloaded tf2 and had no idea what it was. then out of nowhere, i found your videos (i think my first one was the one with the different watches) no i am a spymain and can never stop playing the game. Thank you for showing me how cool the spy class can be. and thank you for making me addicted :)
1. Lose your job 2. Stop dating your gf or divorce your wife 3. Stop showering and stop changing your underwear 4. Lock yourself in your house 5. Play tf2 all day 6. Gain 9000 hours of playtime in a month despite a single month only having 700 hours 7. Enjoy your skill
I love how if you have 30 days in a month, you would need 300 hours in per day(24 hours in one day) so you basically just break the laws of time to get good at spy
I like the fact that you pointed out to not pay attention to the scoreboard. If youre bottom scoring but the entire enemy team is covering last in flame particles and dying to the heavy pushing the cart in a bid to deny you a stab, then you just win.
My guy, the music syncing with the visual effects in this video is glorious eye-candy. I know they’re pretty simple, but simple can be awesome. Very nice job mah man!
Bro your Bury the Light and Rules of Nature custom remixes hit so hard! I also think your explanation of gaining experience is very accurate. Everyone dies in TF2, and it should always be taken as a learning experience instead of a frustrating setback. Even the best TF2 players die in the game.
10:40 this is good advice for improving in general, focus on what you did well and improve on deficits instead of chasing arbitrary points, especially for support oriented classes like spy medic and engi
I love how this video focuses on not only the meta of the game, but gaming in general. I think that laying that foundation down is super important and is something I find very helpful.
For anyone wondering what the text at 2:47 says, short answer is it doesn’t say anything. It’s filler text used to look like actual words and sentences at a glance, mainly used in design, or aperantly spy tutorials
I can't stress enough how GOOD the outro of the video is, I was getting a couple of bad matches back to back and was getting seriously angry and demotivated, however when Jonto began doing the motivational speech, with Rules of Nature slowly building up on the background, it genually gave me strenght to feel motivated once again to keep playing more games. If this isn't one of the best outros on TH-cam history, then I don't know what it is.
For the times that the games just aren’t happening that day A great therapy game is Mortal Sin, a first person hack and slash roguelike, at some point early on you unlock the berserker class which is just heavenly when you get in the groove of cosplaying as Guts without Grifith hounding you 24/7
What makes me happy as a clam is someone finally talking about the mental health aspects of spy in a somewhat serious note. I love tf2 and Spy as a class but boy oh boy I've certainly have had moments where I have said some pretty homicidal things over a game bc of pyros. And ultimately whilst I improve myself I heavily suggest to others to at least have a 2nd main or 3rd on standby if your not having a good day as spy. Or just don't play tf2 at all. Instead play some ULTRAKILL or some other game you like to goof around in!
I do feel like often, I would look and my team and be like “man I really wish we have a good spy on our team right now”. Like for Medic, if your complaint is “we don’t have a medic”, you can always just play it yourself. But a Spy… you can’t just say “I’ll play Spy” and instantly be able to contribute
All these tricks and techniques are geniunely great! Really a lot of people overlook the psychological aspect of playing spy (which is admittedly the most important aspect as the key to your success is literally understanding and reading your opponents) and the importance of mental self-care.
I instantly got better at spy because of this series, literally learned hidden stats and techniques that when i actually listened and implemented improved my gameplay massively. Thanks for the amazing advice!
The thing that clicked for me was learning the POV angles. When I figured out exactly how much other players could actually see around them, I could start manipulating the angles where I was juuuust outside of their view. This also worked for above and below. Catching someone from around a corner when they never knew I was even there, drop stabs, things like that just made Spy SO mush more fun for me. Never was a trick stab type of player. I always found it more satisfying if they never even saw me in the first place.
10:43 as a pyro semimain, I literally told a teammate pyro who was actively asking in the chat how to do better as pyro and if he was ok at at k/d ratio of 5/5. I told him verbatim 'you could be 0/5 kd and still be a good pyro, it's more about disrupting the enemy teams' movements/objective control.'
A good chunk of what you said here is good advice for every class. I'm mainly a medic/demoknight main who also loves fats scouting, and much of this works for those classes, too.
What you said on playing as other classes is dead on. Haven't played TF2 in a long while, but when I did, I was a Spyro (Spy and Pyro) main. So knowing spy as well as his greatest threat was a major help.
0:07 when you get 8h of sleep and for no reason your feel 9000% better than usual I swear I had one of those days and I was trickstabing left and right and bearly missed any shots I felt like a god For 30m then all my skill evaporated away and I could not hit a shot or a backstab to save my life and I have 0idea why
I'm not quite sure when I started TF2 but it's definitely been close to a decade. I've been an aspiring spy main from the very early days. I've never succeeded and lately, I've been playing soldier more than anything. I've been looking for years on helpful guides to the class and your channel has been the best for me! Your insights make the most sense to me of all the spy tips that I've found on TH-cam! Thank you so much!!
9:51 About that cucumber joke: I don't know where I got this information, but using the same logic as the tomato argument, you do get the answer of both: Tomatoes are biologically fruits but do not fit the culinary definition of fruit, but tomatoes cannot biologically be vegetables due to the lack of a biological definition and thus can fit the only (relevant) definition of vegetables with immense ease. Cucumbers, following the same rules as tomatoes, are technically both fruits and vegetables, being biologically fruits and culinarily vegetables.
your videos are honestly such a joy to watch I've watched nearly all of them despite never having much interest in playing spy (pyro/demo main here) keep up the good work man
i've never been much of a spy player throughout my tf2 journey, but these guides have gave me inspiration to try it out very good videos, keep it up :)
0:53 this part makes me mumble laugh so hard as a secondary pyro main, knowing full well than even though I'm decent as him I recently got humbled by a spy that kept backstabbing me as I was doing my pybro subclass, and I even mentioned in the chat that he was better than me. Shout out to cereal man, you were good son. Maybe even the best.
I may not be a spy main, but these videos REALLY help me out whenever I do decide to play him once in a blue moon (And helps me counter them as Engineer :)
Usually AS SOON as i die i check the leaderboard and get so frustrated cuz i get more deaths than kills, no spy main has explained this to me so thank you
Great video, I love the emphasis on mentality when playing. But every time I hear TBOI music outside of something related to it all my braincells stop. This is a compliment I promise
Spy main here I just want to thank you for really helping me to elevate my spy plays, i became a spy main after watching both your, elmaxos and lazypurples videos about spy. Side note :as intriguing as it is to make a plausible disguise, in casual peopl shoot first and think after, i know when i play other classes i just show anyone WHO pops up close to me without thinking so its sad that such a nice and complex mechanic doesnt really work in practice
8:38
*postive feedback loop
It’s not a Jonto video without a grammatical error
EDIT: my fucking god the first word of this comment is a typo, I’m not even going to correct it because of the irony
postive
Silly goose! Now you have to reupload the whole video! Shame! Go to the corner!
Jonto as the typical trickstab spy main that everyone hates when I enter a server, this advice was genuinely good and true and I think people should take it more seriously than they alr are. During my lower hours I found myself using the same flanks and being frustrated, progressively doing worse and worse, and being scared of failing again but what I didn't know was failure was part of the path of being a cracked spy main and keeping your composure. Also that "it's just a game part" I still had this prob recently but once I started to relax and started thinking of it as a casual game like I'd think about playing pacman the game just flowed like water and I was getting chains pretty easily. To other beginner spy mains out there, keep going and don't let anything stop you bro, if you're far from your goa then you're only gonna get closer.
So... When are you going to launch a trickstab montage?
so you _did_ make it up this time
I like how this video just boils down to “you need to be mentally organized to be good at video games” and you just talk about ways of treating yourself properly and fairly for like 70% of the video. Its honestly a kinda refreshing take of gaming tutorial.
You can't play mindgames if you're stuck in the wrong mindset
Welp, there goes my spy plans (scatterbrained) I better get back to pyro and medic
Thanks for the summary
"You have to start somewhere, and that somewhere involves dying"
so mastering spy is just playing dark souls
nice
Lovely comparison, and very fitting.
Lord of Cinder (pyro)
Literally yea, theres multiple aspects to spy u need to get good at to fully master him
The sad thing is that darksouls is sometimes easier.
SPY IS THE DARK SOULS OF TF2 CLASSES
A thing to note for quick cloaking is that if you swing your knife, you cannot cloak for the entire duration of the swing animation.
If you use your *GUN* , you can instantly cloak the next frame after clicking mouse 1 to fire, regardless of how far into the firing animation your revolver may be (this also applies for the sapper as well)
SPY HAS A GUNNNNNNNN
You can also reload right before cloaking, it's a very useful thing to learn
“Everyone I fail a trickstab, I consider ending my own life”
-average martincitopants moment
Frogman funni
@@halalouis3814 very funny
Tf2 video confirmed
Frogman make me laugh daily.
Fun fact, I let him write that joke
top 5 mistakes i made when starting to play Spy:
-attempting to butterknife people chasing me instead of just shooting them
-thinking that the enemy players are deaf and decloacking too close
-not using ammo packs to refill my cloak
-trying to fight the long range class at close range and instantly dying to jarate+bushwacka, a random crit, or a quickscope
-believing that Medics are free kills and getting ubersawed to death as consequence
quick tip: decloaking right behind people can work you just need to observe them first, the easiest way is to look at hats
@1qxd as someone who started playing recently, I recognize my decloaking directly behind the enemy only works bc I'm probably also getting paired with newer players (one of my first times playing 2fort I heard someone who said they had just got a frontier justice for the first time and shenanigans ensued until the pybro showed up)
Istg the medic one is just
I have a bad addiction of playing kunai + dead ringer, I just like to trickstab, and whenever a medic fights me, it's either i get a stab or they get a one hit krit on me despite me having over 100 HP from kunai.
Oh and the decloaking one isn't 100% true. With a cloak, you can easily decloak behind an enemy ONLY if there are a lot of other noises (fighting) I often decloak a literal dead ringer when there are a lot of fighting. (of course not exactly behind them) but you know what I mean.
one more : SPY HAS A GUN
remove sniper
A week ago i was playing on 2fort and i was in a particularly spy playing mood! And while i was playing i was doing well really well! I got a 12 kill streak (my heighest as spy) with only backstabs! My team then proceeded to kick me and telling me "You can't become one of them!" "We need to save him!"
Still my favourite time i have ever been kicked it TF2!
But still. Do not become one of them.
ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
I love theses two people above with whole different views
One is rejecting the snake
But the other wants you to taste the forbidden fruit
@@GooberInternet SILENCE WHENCH *airblasts you off the cliff*
@@randomlol-ya3063but the fruit is very tasty its an apple; it convinced me.
I followed your advice and looked inside. I found a Frenchman there. I truly am a monster worthy of playing Spy. Thank you, John Two Hills.
Loved the cameo section and did not expect Martincitopants--great inclusion, sir, and your editing, scripting, and humor continue to be top-notch.
Spy tf2 spy tf2 spy tf2 tf2 tf2 tf2, spy has a gun, spy tf2 gun, disguise spy tf2
〘SPY〙
『Team Fortress II』
"We thought Roman Numerals were cooler."
@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360
Pyro tf2 is being sent to your location
Spy as a class is souls-likes incarnate as a character.
No matter how good you get at him, you'll always die in an embarrassing way once in a while. There's a sense of beauty in that.
The ragdolls do be funny sometimes
And still have more fun than play medic in a lobby of 5 snipers 3 scout
Bruh im sick of tired of seeing your @$$
i was NOT expecting that martincitopants cameo holy shit
something i learned while playing spy is that playing semi-aggressively can actually work. When you retreat from a fight, you could just instead turn around and go back in. People dont usually expect a teammate to be a spy as soon as they just chased one out. Its really effectivs until the paranoia kicks in
Making everyone on the enemy team Paranoid is actually Great I think.
Makes them distracted, so if you can make it so everyone is paranoid enough you can swap class and make use of that paranoia amd spychecking.
8:38 Erm, 🤓 that's actually a POSITIVE Feedback loop. (Name is deceiving, yeah) but a negative feedback loop is where the loop DECREASES the stimulus that caused the loop, eventually ending it, while a positive loop increases said stimulus, which leads to the loop increasing more and more, and so on
You can't master spy, but spy can master you.
Huh
*Scout's Mother got DOMINATED by Spy*
Don't threaten me with a good time
true
🤨
The Demo rolling up with the impact of a freight train at 11:00 reminds me why TF2 fucking rules.
i was having an awful time palying spy earlier today. kept requeing to no avail. then as i ragequit i decided to scroll youtube when i found this video. after watching it i decided to give it another try, already being able to point out some errors i had made before. i managed to play a 2 hour long 2fort game with the cloak and dagger, spycicle, and diamondback and topscored. the "spy loop" thing is what helped. once i realized that not every server would be the same, and that the players would find me predictable after a bit, i started switching up my paths like you said.
and not ONLY did i topscore, but in the next game i also partnered up with the engineer player i had dominated in the previous round and pybro'd him. so not only did i learn to play spy effectively, but i ALSO made a new steam friend. 10/10 guide
Wholesome story.
Awesome, good for you!
9:25 THERE IT IS!
SPY HAS A GUN
You can just hear the frustration out of that scream
You are one of my favourite TF2 youtubers around! Your content has improved along such a spectacular scale it is hard to believe, please keep it up!
Jontohil: "Dying as spy can make you angry" Also Jonto: "Even the most experienced spies can get silly deaths"
PLEASE release your remixes, they're so good. Also, great video, very insightful on Spy & the mindset a player needs to have for him.
This series has done so much to help me appreciate spy. Its a major excercise in patience but when things go well its just a good feeling, even as someone who doesnt know fancy techniques like trickstabs.
As someone who plays TF2 through the insane method of changing my class every single life, it feels like the way I think changes every single time I play spy and its nice because i never have to get used to enemies being ready for me at every second.
11:38 unrelated but words cannot express how sad i was when the Rules of Nature lyrics didnt come in at the drop and how happy i was when the did a few secons later. Truly the work of a spy main to mind game even the music choice.
woah tj henry yoshi
Actually, an anger-based negative performance making you more angry is called a *_Positive_* Feedback Loop; a Negative Feedback Loop is essentially what counter-balancing methods are, like sweating and shivering among others.
So no, you didn't make up that term; you just used it wrong. :^]
I first learnt that term in a Homeostasis lesson, and it was the opposite of what I thought it was, probably because we think that negative = bad. Negative feedback is usually good as it brings the body to a stable function (e.g. temperature). Positive feedback is usually bad as it increases the usually bad change.
8:31 this is actually a positive feedback loop as it keeps on increasing
8:06 ISAAC :D
Jonto, one thing I always bashed my head against is how enemies were more paranoid than the NPCs in Hitman 2 (the old one), and they spychecked every single player of their color.
I then remembered an old advice from you and tried to get them while they were engaging in combat and... let me say it's so satisfying to kill the heavy locking down the corridor and sneak away ❤
one of my favorite ways to deal with paranoid players is to just look for easier targets or go to a different area. or both. sometimes the only winning move is not to play, so playing somewhere else and only coming back every so often leads to longer lives, at least for me
I generally don't click tab to check my death and kills, I usually use it to see if I actually kill a dead ringer spy or see if the cheater had left the game yet.
that opening remix of Bury the Light goes hard
1:14
This screenshot is interesting out of context…
Scout's mom obviously
2:03
Ain’t no way he’s still watching the Pyrocinical Incident
Man’s been around since the Behind the Lines episode
Bro I googled that shit BAD IDEA BRO BAD IDEA
@@Fordbonelabwhat is it
@@CursedSFMS YOU DO NOT WANNA KNOW BRO
@@Fordbonelab i know the pyrocynical incident but dont know the behind the lines episode
@@Fordbonelab ohhh the Inflation incident
I don’t even play spy often, but I still get excited when these come out because there so well made.
The intro hits HARD
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
NIce vid :3 keep up the good work
Bro used Bury the Light in a TF2 video.
Mad respect.
Edit: And then proceeds to use the MGRR main menu music right after, SSS video already (I'm one minute in)
Edit 2: Another based DMC reference 7:46
His videos have a ton of mgr and dmc songs and references. This video also has the vergill bossifght theme, it's called "the duel" i think
The music choice for this video was absolutley perfect! DMC, The binding of isaac (wait, what? hell yeah!) and Metal Gear Rising, all have banger soundtracks
As a (semi-aggressive) engineer main, I can confirm that switching class is very important for relaxing a little your brain. Also I'm trying to get better at spy to complete a Foundry achievement. Very nice content, I would recommend it for everyone just to learn a little this bizarre class
From how to play spy to how to master spy, this has been a fun journey! Good job all throughout the years and good luck with you future work!
These videos are the only reason I actually play spy, otherwise he'd be my least played class
Weird, it's actual stealth gameplay in a multiplayer shooter
@@elgatochurrohonestly, it's better stealth than most stealth games as well.
Spy is so sneaky, he snuck into a different genre of game.
about a year ago i randomly downloaded tf2 and had no idea what it was. then out of nowhere, i found your videos (i think my first one was the one with the different watches) no i am a spymain and can never stop playing the game. Thank you for showing me how cool the spy class can be. and thank you for making me addicted :)
1. Lose your job 2. Stop dating your gf or divorce your wife 3. Stop showering and stop changing your underwear 4. Lock yourself in your house 5. Play tf2 all day 6. Gain 9000 hours of playtime in a month despite a single month only having 700 hours 7. Enjoy your skill
I love how if you have 30 days in a month, you would need 300 hours in per day(24 hours in one day) so you basically just break the laws of time to get good at spy
You forgot step 6 remember that SPY HAS A GUN
I like the fact that you pointed out to not pay attention to the scoreboard. If youre bottom scoring but the entire enemy team is covering last in flame particles and dying to the heavy pushing the cart in a bid to deny you a stab, then you just win.
5:10
I might not be a spy main, but it teaches how to combat them
My guy, the music syncing with the visual effects in this video is glorious eye-candy.
I know they’re pretty simple, but simple can be awesome. Very nice job mah man!
3:34 how did i die: 1-pyro looked at me funny 2- random crits
Bro your Bury the Light and Rules of Nature custom remixes hit so hard! I also think your explanation of gaining experience is very accurate. Everyone dies in TF2, and it should always be taken as a learning experience instead of a frustrating setback. Even the best TF2 players die in the game.
10:40 this is good advice for improving in general, focus on what you did well and improve on deficits instead of chasing arbitrary points, especially for support oriented classes like spy medic and engi
I love how this video focuses on not only the meta of the game, but gaming in general. I think that laying that foundation down is super important and is something I find very helpful.
For anyone wondering what the text at 2:47 says, short answer is it doesn’t say anything. It’s filler text used to look like actual words and sentences at a glance, mainly used in design, or aperantly spy tutorials
lorem Ipsum dolor sit amet
I'm not ready for the casual spypocalypse following this video...
5:58 Holy mary, a fellow Dream Team enjoyer? Mr. Johnny Tohil is so BASED
Dreamy Sumnom Woods goes hard, wasnt expecting to hear it
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one who noticed that.
I can't stress enough how GOOD the outro of the video is, I was getting a couple of bad matches back to back and was getting seriously angry and demotivated, however when Jonto began doing the motivational speech, with Rules of Nature slowly building up on the background, it genually gave me strenght to feel motivated once again to keep playing more games.
If this isn't one of the best outros on TH-cam history, then I don't know what it is.
This series is so entertaining and helpful keep it up! 😄
For the times that the games just aren’t happening that day
A great therapy game is Mortal Sin, a first person hack and slash roguelike, at some point early on you unlock the berserker class which is just heavenly when you get in the groove of cosplaying as Guts without Grifith hounding you 24/7
Love it!!! These videos motivate me to practice more :) Keep it up man!
What makes me happy as a clam is someone finally talking about the mental health aspects of spy in a somewhat serious note. I love tf2 and Spy as a class but boy oh boy I've certainly have had moments where I have said some pretty homicidal things over a game bc of pyros. And ultimately whilst I improve myself I heavily suggest to others to at least have a 2nd main or 3rd on standby if your not having a good day as spy. Or just don't play tf2 at all. Instead play some ULTRAKILL or some other game you like to goof around in!
2:00
Alright Martincitopants, calm down.
I LOVED the style of this video, sooo well done dude
0:12 Knife controls everything
I do feel like often, I would look and my team and be like “man I really wish we have a good spy on our team right now”.
Like for Medic, if your complaint is “we don’t have a medic”, you can always just play it yourself. But a Spy… you can’t just say “I’ll play Spy” and instantly be able to contribute
2:41 ITS MART
I didn’t know Mart played tf2, a pleasant surprise.
Good job with the visuals in this particular video. They've always been good but your editing here is incredibly well done.
Honest to god, two thousand hour player here.
I have *never* been good at spy, until recently I haven't noticeably imrpoved at all.
He got us the first half , not gonna lie
All these tricks and techniques are geniunely great! Really a lot of people overlook the psychological aspect of playing spy (which is admittedly the most important aspect as the key to your success is literally understanding and reading your opponents) and the importance of mental self-care.
8:50 THOSE COWS ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!🐮
sir, those are hiffers, you have been deceived
@@engifromtf2 man…
I instantly got better at spy because of this series, literally learned hidden stats and techniques that when i actually listened and implemented improved my gameplay massively. Thanks for the amazing advice!
8:57 that was way funnier then it had any right to be
Same with 10:59
@@thesuperintendent4290fair point
The thing that clicked for me was learning the POV angles. When I figured out exactly how much other players could actually see around them, I could start manipulating the angles where I was juuuust outside of their view. This also worked for above and below. Catching someone from around a corner when they never knew I was even there, drop stabs, things like that just made Spy SO mush more fun for me. Never was a trick stab type of player. I always found it more satisfying if they never even saw me in the first place.
YOOOO!!!
Martincitopants
the funni frog man!
10:43 as a pyro semimain, I literally told a teammate pyro who was actively asking in the chat how to do better as pyro and if he was ok at at k/d ratio of 5/5. I told him verbatim 'you could be 0/5 kd and still be a good pyro, it's more about disrupting the enemy teams' movements/objective control.'
Funny Mandela catalogue voice
5:10 I don't play tf2 your videos are just so good
Your videos didn't just help me get better at spy, they actually made me try him more in the first place and that's the real win here
2:22 the interview part was great
A good chunk of what you said here is good advice for every class. I'm mainly a medic/demoknight main who also loves fats scouting, and much of this works for those classes, too.
This also fits for assassin's creed or spy games in general.
Learning from your own mistakes is a great advice that you can apply to pretty much anything. Great job!
8:09 things spy mains don’t have
What you said on playing as other classes is dead on. Haven't played TF2 in a long while, but when I did, I was a Spyro (Spy and Pyro) main. So knowing spy as well as his greatest threat was a major help.
"most of my audience don't main spy" yea i main medic, i just want to understand my enemy
You've made a video on dealing with pyros, dealing with engineers, the next step is dealing with other spies
0:07 when you get 8h of sleep and for no reason your feel 9000% better than usual
I swear I had one of those days and I was trickstabing left and right and bearly missed any shots I felt like a god
For 30m then all my skill evaporated away and I could not hit a shot or a backstab to save my life and I have 0idea why
Your videos are just amazing, informative, fun, with great editing, easy to understand. You have everything that a guide could ever ask for.
2:41 boat
if you get it you get it.
BOAT
BOAT
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Ship
Boat
I'm not quite sure when I started TF2 but it's definitely been close to a decade. I've been an aspiring spy main from the very early days. I've never succeeded and lately, I've been playing soldier more than anything. I've been looking for years on helpful guides to the class and your channel has been the best for me! Your insights make the most sense to me of all the spy tips that I've found on TH-cam! Thank you so much!!
11:04
Hehe, Fustrating
this is some of the best editing and teaching. you could become a teacher for something often used like chemistry
3:59 wait... february 27 is my birthday! i was born in 2004 tho
Anti birthday
great video, i instantly noticed the instrumental part of "its been so long," I have had that song stuck inn my head all day
9:51 About that cucumber joke: I don't know where I got this information, but using the same logic as the tomato argument, you do get the answer of both: Tomatoes are biologically fruits but do not fit the culinary definition of fruit, but tomatoes cannot biologically be vegetables due to the lack of a biological definition and thus can fit the only (relevant) definition of vegetables with immense ease. Cucumbers, following the same rules as tomatoes, are technically both fruits and vegetables, being biologically fruits and culinarily vegetables.
_“There’s no getting around it, if you’re as predictable as yesterday’s weather, it’s just not gonna go well for you.”_
- SoundSmith 2023
are you sayin'... that i'm a spy?
I came for countering spy and left deciding to have spy be my off class, you are a top tier tf2 TH-camr, keep up the good work!
Man, you gotta drop the Bury the Light and Laws of Nature remixes you made, straight up fire.
your videos are honestly such a joy to watch I've watched nearly all of them despite never having much interest in playing spy (pyro/demo main here)
keep up the good work man
i've never been much of a spy player throughout my tf2 journey, but these guides have gave me inspiration to try it out
very good videos, keep it up :)
You know that you are good at spy when you are dominating pyro with backstabs
With every video it becomes better and better
WOOO new spy psychology video (says the medic/pyro player)
i LIVE for the sfm and editing in these videos you have no idea . love these so much
0:53 this part makes me mumble laugh so hard as a secondary pyro main, knowing full well than even though I'm decent as him I recently got humbled by a spy that kept backstabbing me as I was doing my pybro subclass, and I even mentioned in the chat that he was better than me. Shout out to cereal man, you were good son. Maybe even the best.
I may not be a spy main, but these videos REALLY help me out whenever I do decide to play him once in a blue moon (And helps me counter them as Engineer :)
Usually AS SOON as i die i check the leaderboard and get so frustrated cuz i get more deaths than kills, no spy main has explained this to me so thank you
I love the music choices in this series😂
Great video, I love the emphasis on mentality when playing.
But every time I hear TBOI music outside of something related to it all my braincells stop. This is a compliment I promise
Spy main here I just want to thank you for really helping me to elevate my spy plays, i became a spy main after watching both your, elmaxos and lazypurples videos about spy. Side note :as intriguing as it is to make a plausible disguise, in casual peopl shoot first and think after, i know when i play other classes i just show anyone WHO pops up close to me without thinking so its sad that such a nice and complex mechanic doesnt really work in practice