Rotten Boat - Can we save it? | Sailing Mahalo Episode 8
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- This week we're drilling more holes. What other mysteries might be hidden within Mahalo's depths, rotten plywood? We can't see the light at the end of the tunnel yet, but we will keep fighting the rot and osmosis and bring Mahalo back to life!
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Holy Tamoley...I thought we had great videos of water coming OUT of our boat, but I think you may have us topped ;) Good luck with your blister repairs. Wow. -Rebecca on SV Brick House
This is like watching our lives 6yrs ago. We also had rudder issues just like yours. You're doung a great job and one day you'll look back and say.....remember when we had xyz and you'll laugh.....even if you don't think so now 😁
Sailing SV Cordelia thanks for your encouragement! We’re looking forward to that time 😁
@@SailingMahalo it'll come round soon enough ⛵⚓😁
Wow this is one heck of a project. Really insightful as to how the water can damage the plywood. Subscribed to follow your journey.
First time watching. Plenty work.
Was going to save a boat with similar issues but the owner was too late making the decision to let me have her before winter came and absolutely destroyed any chance of her being saved 😢 it was such a beautiful boat. It hurts to know I could have saved her. Winter came and froze the water that was in the keel and sadly also the water inside the boat due to neglect which completely destroyed the hull by cracking and busting both the keel and hull to the point the poor boat collapsed on herself from all the structural damage. It’s sad and it pains me to think about what a beautiful woody she could have been at 40 foot and built in the early 1900s I was in love. 😔 owning a small sawmill service I was completely dedicated to fixing such a rare beauty before the owners led her to waste.
Cool video. I have some questions. Sorry for my ignorance on these points but you mention “pipes” in the hull. Or maybe I’m not hearing it correctly? What is that. Also, is this a wooden hull or fiberglass? I’m asking because I have an old boat with fiberglass hull. But you’re making me nervous about old boats. Haha. Good video, music, and editing work.
Mahalo is a rare specimen... the boat was constructed with a system called RFK in Germany. It translates to pipe fiber composite. Instead of foam or wood as a core, Mahalo has flat pipes that run horizontally throughout the hull. It was a very short lived system, but there are still boats around that held up fairly well. There are many good old boats out there, you just need to find them. I don’t recommend RFK.
@@SailingMahalo Ah cool. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I’d gone crazy or was hearing you wrong. I have a 1965 Cheoy Lee 36. It was one of the first years they did fiberglass hulls but topside is all teak wood (wood cabin top, toe rails, deck, etc.). I’ve never had the boat out of the water but I dive below frequently and the hull seems solid. It just got me nervous with all the bottom issues you’re having. 👍⛵️I haven’t done any videos yet of the Cheoy Lee as I’m way behind on editing but hope to soon.
@@JoshPostVlogs Go for it! We need to catch up as well, but the pandemic hasn’t exactly been helpful. Is that a solid hull boat like many of the early ones? In that case you should be golden.
their's an easy way to deal with your problem ... pay up insurance buy a good life boat and keep sailing!...cheer's
Just subscribed. Looking forward to seeing how your adventure turns out. Good luck from North Texas.
Richard Morin thanks for tuning in Richard 👍🏻
I am really sad to see just how bad the osmosis problem is on your boat. It is going to take a lot time money & patience to get it back to where it should be. She is going to be a nightmare to re-glass while the hull is up the right way. I re-glassed a 26ft OAL Outlaw hull completely in the 80's. I was wishing I had never started it within a week. In the end I had it craned upside down to complete it. Luckily I was working at the boat yard where I was doing the job. I did it part time probably 25 hours per week and it took me 2 years to complete the hull. We did not have peel ply in those days and every layer had to be sanded before the application of the next coat. She is still sailing to this day but not owned by me. I hope you are as stubborn as I was then and refused to give up. It is a massive undertaking and I wish you all the best for a good conclusion. regards from the UK
Oh heck. Imagine you guys would’ve not looked before sailing off!
Anika Carstens I don’t even want to imagine what would’ve happened 😅
I never knew a sponge and kitchen colander actually float and make up beaut looking boat...good luck guys.
Thanks, we love our colander 😂
Wow! Yaiks! Do you guys each have a voodoo doll depicting the surveyer?
Rudder tube , get a s/s welder , put some weld lumps on the tube so it can’t rotate on the rudder block
gess ges we plan on welding the tube to the rudder housing. Should hold it well.
I'm amazed that all that water in the pipes didn't reduce the hull to splinters over the winters.
It never spent much time on the hard and the water around it didn’t freeze.
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1:27 'I am not amused. WTF did you get me into...'
Wow! This is going to be a very interesting winter. 🛠️ Thnx for all your efforts to share.
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A boat Called Wanda
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MiQ Bohlin thanks for tuning in 🙏🏻 this is gonna be a long one 🍿
Everything’s alright?
Long time no see…
Shall I send the SAR?
MiQ Bohlin We’ve hit some snags along the way recently, but we‘ll post an update soon. We love this boat, but she’s frustrating as can be 😅
that was drepressing.
it looks like a lot of short cutting had been done from the original build, i don't think that i have ever seen plywood that rotton over a short amount of time. be interesting to know if it was marine grade plywood or not. short cuts dont pay yeah, seen a lot of youtube boat renos, but nothing like your issues. good luck, your'll get there.
Those were our thoughts exactly. We’re not sure how long water was seeping through, but not enough to be noticed until recently. I guess we’ll never know.
Epoxy + filler + some cloth for reinforcement
Cut on dotted-line.
I bought a 50ft boat once ( with business)
I had little knowledge of large sailing boats,
So I got taken to the cleaner's
After about six months the boat began to fall to pieces, also we found that the business was a dodgy setup,as the previous owner had been paying the harbour master a monthly wage to keep his mouth shut. The business was registered in KL with a chartered accountant
Anyway as they say a little knowledge is dangerous it cost me £60000 plus additional
Costs of £ 30k.. the name of the company was
Dynamite cruises in Langkawi the name of the
Person I bought the company from was Ivan
Just like to say that this has nothing to do with
Dynamite cruises travel agency Langkawi
Who took over the name ,,Good company and owner.
To finish with the hull was rotten the engine was
Finished, I did not get a professional to servey it.
My fault, but the dishonesty of some people is astounding. But I believe in karma, so let's see
What happens.
One surveyor did not do his work!
Count your losses, scrap the boat!
Dan & Kika from UMA are somewhere in England...get them to see your boat!
André Bériault if only it were that easy 😅 let’s get a collab boat refit going with Sailing Uma!
Get fearless (GRP) Dan and Kika in from Sailing Uma. They'll have it in the water by sunset!!
Andy agogo they would! Wonder if they’d be willing to lend us a hand after the pandemic.
So someone started building it 40 years ago, and it started falling apart 20 years ago. And it never got to be sailed! One part was being completed while another was falling apart. Which is both very sad and I gotta say a little pathetic. Note to self: Be very very, very, careful buying an old boat. And even more careful about who you get to survey it! My heart goes out to you guys... hang in there and you’ll start going forward soon I’m sure.
Thanks, Robin. Our sentiments exactly.
I would look into having a Rudder housing made out of steel then you could over drill a hole a little bit and put in a brass bushing that would be easy to replace if it wears , then fiberglass it all in place really well that should last you a while
Bryon Ensminger great suggestion! We have a design in mind already, but we hadn’t thought about a brass bushing. Since we already have a stainless sleeve we are planning to weld or bolt this to the housing.
Bryon Ensminger Good idea
Sorry to say that hull is shot despite what you see, hear and talk to people about it they are all wrong. It will never be as strong as was when new. It is common problem with poorly made boats with wooden frames and foam hulls once wet it will always be wet drilling holes to let the water out is a waste of time .When you get done it will look good on the surface only. but in a rough sea it will fall apart. That thing belongs in the dump. Sorry for a touch of reality BUT I have seen people lile you do this before and it is a disaster in the end.
philip streechon Do you say anything positive?
I'm positive it's a piece of junk
Thanks for your input Philip 👍🏻 of course we prefer to remain positive, but we have to look at this project from more than just the romantic side. Though I haven’t heard of any boats falling apart in the middle of the ocean from osmosis.
Sorry for being so negative , Ijust get so unnerved a the boat manufactures they cut corrners were ever possible it makes me sick. You should see how new boats are made today even worse. there some videos of boat surveyors in Florida looking at storm damaged boats, and you can see what they have for a hull core. The surveyor did not know what was it was like old wet bondo very poor. That is why they are so cheep I looked at a 65 foot hatters and the foam core was full of water which froze last and all full of big bulges. Look at Boston Whaler the core can honl so much water it can increase the boat weight by as much as 35%. The rule is weigh the boat and compare it to the mfg specs. Good luck on your project Icould go no for hours.
I definitely get where you’re coming from. It’s frustrating indeed to just see people wanting to make a quick buck. We can see more and more that quality doesn’t matter anymore. Just make as many and sell as many as possible. In our case the boat was home built, but I believe mislead by the design company...
Why bother? Scrap it!
Then why bother watching? Scrap you!
Did you guys legal take action against the surveyer? Even the most stupid surveyer would have detected the moistures in the hull !!!!!
Mansoor Nodjoumi no legal action, but surely karma will have its play.
Just get the bottom grind and leave the boat to dry out
gess ges that’s exactly what we’ve done. Next video we’ll show you how the drying has progressed over the last few months.
Na, ob das was wird; Und wenn ja, mit wieviel Aufwand???
hans guenter sehr viel 😬
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Do you realy think thank you is a good name for a boat
Wasn't named by us, but the previous owners liked what the word encompassed. Being thankful for the lives we live, for the chance to travel the world, for the people around us, etc. So we think it's the perfect name.
@@SailingMahalo Makes sense