@@AlsoKnownAsAndrew I think it made the voices and effects sound cleaner personally. Since this video, I've spaced them apart and that makes it sound much wider
Thanks for this great video! I’m struggling to either pull the trigger on these or the Magnat THX lineup. Do you know how they compare to Klipsch, besides sensitivity?
Klipsch actually owns the magnat brand. I would say most thx products carry a pretty neutral sound. Personally I'd go with the Klipsch, but I say that without hearing the magnats. I would also say to choose based on your budget
Is the Onko enough to power these? I just ordered the same receiver. I wanted to get a preowned Mcintosh MXT120 but wanted all the up to date dsp processing like Dolby Atmos, DTS-X. I have an old 7.1 Denon receiver and Boston Acoustic towers and center channel speaker which are 20yrs old. I keep the towers for dedicated music listening.
@@HulkCinem4566 thank you! I have demoed the forte and cornwalls and you're correct. The midrange is the major difference when comparing them. For now I'm going to wait and switch to Jtr on my next upgrade. I heard them at MWave and they were incredible
@@SpencersStuffTV I have never heard of jtr but many people have listened to my system and they have said that they have never heard such a system in their life, if you want to hear very clean sounds I would say Cornwall and Forte
@@HulkCinem4566 I actually work for Klipsch so I have heard them 😁 but yeah Jtr is a step up over Klipsch. Better compression drivers, still horn driven. There forte and cornwalls are damn good though. You have a sensational system
Thanx for reviewing these speakers! I’m building a new house next year and a home theatre from scratch. Planning to get the 6000LCRs in the front but I have never thought about bi-wiring two in the center😊 Worth concidering. Going for the Marantz Cinema 40 and dual SVS Sb16 ultras. Havent desided on a projector but it will be some lasertype. A question, however: Is it necesary with a power amp for these speaker or will the Marantz Cinema 40 be enough? Again thanx for the review👍🏻
Thanks for watching! I think having the extra amps help give you extra headroom, but these would be sensitive enough to give you good volume. It all comes down to how many speakers you are using. If you're using all 9 channels on the marantz, you may notice some loss in dynamics and fidelity as you turn your system up. My amps are overkill for my system
@@SpencersStuffTV Thanx😊 I use a seven channel NAD M25 power amplifier today along with an older Maranz. An old powerhouse😅 Its probably smart to use the NAD in the new setup too then😊
Hey man! Frigggin sweet video. Those speakers are soooo nice. A point of suggestion if I can. I would take your center array and push those into the side-surround position in what would be the traditional "5.1" config where they are to the side and slightly behind you. Then, I would place your left in right in the traditional 60-degree triangle with the MLP (if they aren't already there) but with one very crucial adjustment. Toe the left and right speakers in so that they're acoustic centers cross about 1m in front of the MLP. While this will narrow the soundstage somewhat, it will dramatically increase the sweet spot of the new "phantom center" that you just created to about the size of a 3-seat couch, get rid of all the comb-filtering, and once again dramatically increase the fidelity of your system. If you were to set them up this way, please do not pass judgement until you run Dirac. When you run a phantom center and are listening to muilti-channel playback, the center image will have a slightly dip in the FR at 1.5khz and it will make it sound like you're running a quiet center channel. Running Dirac will fix that. This is the setup I currently employ but mine is a 7.1 with a phantom center. So, really a "6.1". Another option that is supported by many AVRs is a SR back channel that's comprised of one speaker instead of two. So, if you were to acquire two more THX-6000s, you could run a single center, a single SR back, and now have a different "6.1" system but with a center channel. Anyway, I love the home theater hobby and could talk all day. So many different ways to accomplish the same results. Very fun! Fantastic video!
Im running a 7.2.4 system right now with these, so the 5.1 wouldn't be an option. My system is already not up to dolby's standard since I am running dipoles for Atmos (5000lcr's). The comb filtering isn't noticeable and the fidelity is great as well. No complaints after getting a calibrated mic and getting dirac situated! I personally prefer the dual center. Its far more immersive than the single 6000. Thanks for the suggestions!
Hey, i have room of 13.5/21 and thought of putting RP 6000 Fii behind the screen with 504CII and now having thoughts of this 6000LCR series with denon 4800H... what do you recommend?... Thanks in Advance 😊
Would the 6000fii be your left and right channel? Personally, it's down to what you want. As pure cinema speakers, the lcr's outdo the rp line. But by the same token, I would say you could grab one more 6000fii and make it your center channel to match your left and right channel. This will add more coherence to your sound. What are you using as your surrounds and what not?
They're great for a small room. You will have plenty of detail for movies and tv shows. These produce great clarity even at low volume. Same with the 5000's.
@@SpencersStuffTV I want to buy 5000 because the driver is 5 inch, but the 6000 series also has a 6.5 inch woofer. I don't like harsh sounds, I like neutral ones. I'm afraid that the 6000 series will give more bass. I'm looking for focused sounds, I want to hear every detail and the conversations to be clear, because the klipsch Rp-504cii has a series port, the sounds are muffled, the sounds coming from the center are not clearly heard
@@leatijoseph828 the 5000 and 6000 both share the same tweeter and are plenty detailed in my opinion. For the size, the 5000 is a great option..I don't think you'll be disappointed
@@SpencersStuffTV thanks! i am planing to build a home theater before december,size around this speaker seems like this one is the best for movies?i wanna get trinnov with this one or do i have better choice ?for example mk s300,pretty close size but more expensive,maybe it sounds better?
@@joniscraacked2 I can happily say for movies these are detailed and provide plenty of information to immerse you. At this point, we have so many great options for speakers. I think a lot of it comes down to the amps and processor. Dirac made as big of a difference in my room as the speakers themselves
I don't agree with you I have thx-5000 series I run them only with Onkyo they sound great I give them 100 watts of power they sound perfect if you add an amplifier to them they will sound very bright and sound like a reference line but I don't want that I run them without an amp and I'm sure the tweeter doesn't sound like the Rp series, but if you use it with an amplifier, it won't sound like it used to, and I don't like very bright sounds, if I did, I would be happy to buy the Rp Series, but I don't, the Rp series is too tiring for the ears
@@ElvinAbdullayev-l8p I already ran them with just the onkyo and wasn't very happy. They tended to distort for me at louder volumes. Once I got Dirac dialed in, they definitely got better. I will eventually be retiring these and moving over to the JTR noesis products. I actually think these are very close to the fidelity of the RP series personally. They're in the same ballpark, but these are just a little more detailed at higher volumes
@@SpencersStuffTV my friend you don't know what you are talking about)) I have Jtr 210ht LCR at my friend's house I listened to them but I didn't like them because they sound like Klipsch Rp series But Thx 5000 doesn't sound like Rp series even most of those who use Thx series say that they are very different from Rp series and I bought them after hearing them they sound natural it sounds even the Mk&Sound S-150 LCR that I used before I think Thx-5000 much better check it out in your room in my opinion)))
@@ElvinAbdullayev-l8p to each their own. From my sound demos the jtrs sounds cleaner, more detailed at volume and overall smoother to my ear. It could be because the 210 is only a two way driver. My room has acoustic treatment and everything it could need to sound good. To my ear, the thx's are like a brother to the RP series. Not the same but sound similar in certain scenarios. This is from someone who owns the original RP series, RP 1 and RP 2
@@SpencersStuffTV th-cam.com/video/bkYwS151ono/w-d-xo.htmlsi=56RjC7iiVCBH-5Yo. hahahah my friend test -10db on Jtr Super 8 movie your ears will bleed they sound very bright they sound soft not soft I listened to the same scene with Thx-5000 they didn't sound bright -10db😃
@@SpencersStuffTV th-cam.com/video/bkYwS151ono/w-d-xo.htmlsi=56RjC7iiVCBH-5Yo. hahahah my friend test -10db on Jtr Super 8 movie your ears will bleed they sound very bright they sound soft not soft I listened to the same scene with Thx-5000 they didn't sound bright
Did the dual center setup sound bigger/more robust? Great review
@@AlsoKnownAsAndrew I think it made the voices and effects sound cleaner personally. Since this video, I've spaced them apart and that makes it sound much wider
Thanks for this great video! I’m struggling to either pull the trigger on these or the Magnat THX lineup. Do you know how they compare to Klipsch, besides sensitivity?
Klipsch actually owns the magnat brand. I would say most thx products carry a pretty neutral sound. Personally I'd go with the Klipsch, but I say that without hearing the magnats. I would also say to choose based on your budget
@@SpencersStuffTV thanks so much for the guidance! Really appreciate it.
@@kelvinrandolph8235 you're welcome! I wish I could be more help!
Completely agree on playing games in the home theater. Headphones will never be able to give the same immersive experience as outboard speakers.
It's the truth! There's a sense of scale you cant get with headphones
Is the Onko enough to power these? I just ordered the same receiver. I wanted to get a preowned Mcintosh MXT120 but wanted all the up to date dsp processing like Dolby Atmos, DTS-X. I have an old 7.1 Denon receiver and Boston Acoustic towers and center channel speaker which are 20yrs old. I keep the towers for dedicated music listening.
It really depends how many channels you're running and how loud you listen. What is your setup?
great explanation I use Cornwall IV and Forte IV in my theater room the thx-650 sounds close to them I think you should demo them
@@HulkCinem4566 thank you! I have demoed the forte and cornwalls and you're correct. The midrange is the major difference when comparing them. For now I'm going to wait and switch to Jtr on my next upgrade. I heard them at MWave and they were incredible
@@SpencersStuffTV I have never heard of jtr but many people have listened to my system and they have said that they have never heard such a system in their life, if you want to hear very clean sounds I would say Cornwall and Forte
@@HulkCinem4566 I actually work for Klipsch so I have heard them 😁 but yeah Jtr is a step up over Klipsch. Better compression drivers, still horn driven. There forte and cornwalls are damn good though. You have a sensational system
Thanx for reviewing these speakers! I’m building a new house next year and a home theatre from scratch. Planning to get the 6000LCRs in the front but I have never thought about bi-wiring two in the center😊 Worth concidering. Going for the Marantz Cinema 40 and dual SVS Sb16 ultras. Havent desided on a projector but it will be some lasertype. A question, however: Is it necesary with a power amp for these speaker or will the Marantz Cinema 40 be enough? Again thanx for the review👍🏻
Thanks for watching! I think having the extra amps help give you extra headroom, but these would be sensitive enough to give you good volume. It all comes down to how many speakers you are using. If you're using all 9 channels on the marantz, you may notice some loss in dynamics and fidelity as you turn your system up. My amps are overkill for my system
@@SpencersStuffTV Thanx😊 I use a seven channel NAD M25 power amplifier today along with an older Maranz. An old powerhouse😅 Its probably smart to use the NAD in the new setup too then😊
@@iomega9000 that should work great! If you have it, no point in not using it 😁
Hi, I’m using these Klipsch THX in a 7.2.2 configuration, (all THX except Subs) using these with a Denon 3800, you won’t need extra amplification.
Hey man! Frigggin sweet video. Those speakers are soooo nice. A point of suggestion if I can. I would take your center array and push those into the side-surround position in what would be the traditional "5.1" config where they are to the side and slightly behind you. Then, I would place your left in right in the traditional 60-degree triangle with the MLP (if they aren't already there) but with one very crucial adjustment. Toe the left and right speakers in so that they're acoustic centers cross about 1m in front of the MLP. While this will narrow the soundstage somewhat, it will dramatically increase the sweet spot of the new "phantom center" that you just created to about the size of a 3-seat couch, get rid of all the comb-filtering, and once again dramatically increase the fidelity of your system.
If you were to set them up this way, please do not pass judgement until you run Dirac. When you run a phantom center and are listening to muilti-channel playback, the center image will have a slightly dip in the FR at 1.5khz and it will make it sound like you're running a quiet center channel. Running Dirac will fix that.
This is the setup I currently employ but mine is a 7.1 with a phantom center. So, really a "6.1". Another option that is supported by many AVRs is a SR back channel that's comprised of one speaker instead of two. So, if you were to acquire two more THX-6000s, you could run a single center, a single SR back, and now have a different "6.1" system but with a center channel. Anyway, I love the home theater hobby and could talk all day. So many different ways to accomplish the same results. Very fun!
Fantastic video!
Im running a 7.2.4 system right now with these, so the 5.1 wouldn't be an option. My system is already not up to dolby's standard since I am running dipoles for Atmos (5000lcr's). The comb filtering isn't noticeable and the fidelity is great as well. No complaints after getting a calibrated mic and getting dirac situated! I personally prefer the dual center. Its far more immersive than the single 6000. Thanks for the suggestions!
@@SpencersStuffTV haha! My bad. Friggin sick setup man. Those speakers are awesome.
Hey, i have room of 13.5/21 and thought of putting RP 6000 Fii behind the screen with 504CII and now having thoughts of this 6000LCR series with denon 4800H... what do you recommend?... Thanks in Advance 😊
Would the 6000fii be your left and right channel?
Personally, it's down to what you want. As pure cinema speakers, the lcr's outdo the rp line. But by the same token, I would say you could grab one more 6000fii and make it your center channel to match your left and right channel. This will add more coherence to your sound.
What are you using as your surrounds and what not?
my friend is Klipsch Thx5000 good or 6000 for a small room??
They're great for a small room. You will have plenty of detail for movies and tv shows. These produce great clarity even at low volume. Same with the 5000's.
@@SpencersStuffTV I want to buy 5000 because the driver is 5 inch, but the 6000 series also has a 6.5 inch woofer. I don't like harsh sounds, I like neutral ones. I'm afraid that the 6000 series will give more bass. I'm looking for focused sounds, I want to hear every detail and the conversations to be clear, because the klipsch Rp-504cii has a series port, the sounds are muffled, the sounds coming from the center are not clearly heard
@@leatijoseph828 the 5000 and 6000 both share the same tweeter and are plenty detailed in my opinion. For the size, the 5000 is a great option..I don't think you'll be disappointed
@@SpencersStuffTV thank you, I have one last question, how many 6000 crossovers do you use, 60 or 80?
@@leatijoseph828 I have the crossover set to 70 on the 6000's. It works best for my room
What’s the difference between kl650 thx and kl 6000 lcr ?
The only difference I know is the finish. The 650 is smooth while the 6000 has a textured paint
@@SpencersStuffTV thanks! i am planing to build a home theater before december,size around this speaker seems like this one is the best for movies?i wanna get trinnov with this one or do i have better choice ?for example mk s300,pretty close size but more expensive,maybe it sounds better?
@@joniscraacked2 I can happily say for movies these are detailed and provide plenty of information to immerse you. At this point, we have so many great options for speakers. I think a lot of it comes down to the amps and processor. Dirac made as big of a difference in my room as the speakers themselves
I don't agree with you I have thx-5000 series I run them only with Onkyo they sound great I give them 100 watts of power they sound perfect if you add an amplifier to them they will sound very bright and sound like a reference line but I don't want that I run them without an amp and I'm sure the tweeter doesn't sound like the Rp series, but if you use it with an amplifier, it won't sound like it used to, and I don't like very bright sounds, if I did, I would be happy to buy the Rp Series, but I don't, the Rp series is too tiring for the ears
@@ElvinAbdullayev-l8p I already ran them with just the onkyo and wasn't very happy. They tended to distort for me at louder volumes. Once I got Dirac dialed in, they definitely got better. I will eventually be retiring these and moving over to the JTR noesis products. I actually think these are very close to the fidelity of the RP series personally. They're in the same ballpark, but these are just a little more detailed at higher volumes
@@SpencersStuffTV my friend you don't know what you are talking about)) I have Jtr 210ht LCR at my friend's house I listened to them but I didn't like them because they sound like Klipsch Rp series But Thx 5000 doesn't sound like Rp series even most of those who use Thx series say that they are very different from Rp series and I bought them after hearing them they sound natural it sounds even the Mk&Sound S-150 LCR that I used before I think Thx-5000 much better check it out in your room in my opinion)))
@@ElvinAbdullayev-l8p to each their own. From my sound demos the jtrs sounds cleaner, more detailed at volume and overall smoother to my ear. It could be because the 210 is only a two way driver. My room has acoustic treatment and everything it could need to sound good. To my ear, the thx's are like a brother to the RP series. Not the same but sound similar in certain scenarios. This is from someone who owns the original RP series, RP 1 and RP 2
@@SpencersStuffTV th-cam.com/video/bkYwS151ono/w-d-xo.htmlsi=56RjC7iiVCBH-5Yo. hahahah my friend test -10db on Jtr Super 8 movie your ears will bleed they sound very bright they sound soft not soft I listened to the same scene with Thx-5000 they didn't sound bright -10db😃
@@SpencersStuffTV th-cam.com/video/bkYwS151ono/w-d-xo.htmlsi=56RjC7iiVCBH-5Yo. hahahah my friend test -10db on Jtr Super 8 movie your ears will bleed they sound very bright they sound soft not soft I listened to the same scene with Thx-5000 they didn't sound bright