Is the 4-day working week about to become a reality?

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  • With hundreds more companies signing up for a reduced working week, Ava speaks to the man behind the campaign to get UK business to reduce their employee's working week.
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  • @cameronfateweaver2206
    @cameronfateweaver2206 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +169

    my job is so meaningful that I am watching TH-cam right now.

  • @steveholmes381
    @steveholmes381 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    Most CEOs are against a 4 day week, no way will they work 3 extra days a week 🤔

    • @mrmoneybags390
      @mrmoneybags390 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Brilliant

    • @Prawny
      @Prawny 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who else would keep golf clubs afloat in these turbulent times?!

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think you'll find they do far more hours that the average worker.
      If it's so easy why not be a CEO and only work 1 day a week

    • @steveholmes381
      @steveholmes381 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Robert-cu9bm It often depends on the school you went to, and I went to the wrong one.

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @steveholmes381
      No it doesn't, it depends on the personality. Driven people go place, and driven people work hard to get up to higher levels.
      Just because you haven't done that doesn't mean those who have achieved high in their careers don't work.
      Anyone can start a business and be a billionaire, you just need the idea, hard work and luck

  • @jamesthesilver
    @jamesthesilver 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    I think this is definitely true for younger generations because the cost of buying a property is so high that a lot of younger people wonder what they're even working for anyway

    • @CandyKoRn
      @CandyKoRn 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Exactly! What are WE working for? Because we’re not benefiting from all these bloody profits.

    • @aleph8888
      @aleph8888 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A lot of them are feigning mental illness to get disability benefits.

    • @adnanhussain2728
      @adnanhussain2728 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Facts!

    • @Jaaj2009
      @Jaaj2009 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is the core of the mental health crisis in the UK. Many young people lacking purpose, feeling their opportunities have been stolen. What's the point in saving if prices rise faster than you can save?

  • @tommytrails
    @tommytrails 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Started 4 days a week every 2 weeks as a trial at the start of this year. it’s the best thing ever so far for me and my work. Definitely makes myself happier 😃

  • @ginnybourne6374
    @ginnybourne6374 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    When he said 'AI would reduce the work load' it took me back to my school days back in about 72 or 73 when we had a lesson talking about what we would do with all the free time that automation would bring . Hmm I didn't notice any reduction in workload. Seems to me businesses find ways to increase it to compensate. I am now retired but I hope this scheme takes off. It is way overdue.

    • @martywest6004
      @martywest6004 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I recall the widespread computing would do the same at work, and it did to some extent at first. Now the systems are so convoluted and disperate and management intensive, that time has been lost again..May aswell wander down a dusty corridor and find the file, !

  • @Wiredexe
    @Wiredexe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    As someone that absolutely adores my job, I would still like to see a 4 day week. For me, it's about seeing my son more, I already feel guilty about how much he needs to be in childcare just because I have to work.

    • @smitchy3993
      @smitchy3993 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What job do you do if you don't mind me asking? Curious to learn more from people who love their jobs.

    • @Elspm
      @Elspm 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah same. I feel like I could get more done to be honest, the only downside would be getting clients to accept it.

    • @Wiredexe
      @Wiredexe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smitchy3993 I'm a games programmer. Recent industry turmoil aside, it's the best job I've ever had.

    • @Wiredexe
      @Wiredexe 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smitchy3993 I thought I'd replied to this the other day, must be going mad. I'm a games programmer 🙂

    • @aehii
      @aehii 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm not sure there's anything in life i 'absolutely adore', for a job to do that seems so alien to me. I don't think it's healthy to do so much of one thing. Even photography, which i get a lot of satisfaction from, editing at least, burns me out if i do it too much.

  • @Real_Matt
    @Real_Matt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The problem is once I read David Graeber's book about meaningless jobs - it just confirmed everything I thought about how meaningless most work is.

  • @monikabarcikowska6793
    @monikabarcikowska6793 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    People are leaving the UK very quickly. Those of us who stay are miserable. Introducing 4 days of working week would give that 1 reason to stay.

    • @jgdooley2003
      @jgdooley2003 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The 32 hour working week was tried in France and was only viable when bosses piled on work and extra tasks on people which was forced to do on their own time. Unpaid overtime was the result. Especially for non public workers fully exposed to international competition from countries which stuck to the 5 day 40 hour week.
      Also not working as planned is the 14 bank holidays that some countries have as opposed to the 10 days other countries have.
      4 Day weeks will only work if international competitors also do a 4 day week.
      AI and automation will only translate into less workers and more unemployment or part-time and precarious work unless ALL workers unite in fighting for reduced working time. It won't work otherwise.

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jgdooley2003 by that logic we ought to strive to be more like India which has a 6 day working week, though to be fair that's inflated their labour supply (they have very high unemployment) and jobs have been offshored there accordingly.
      I think it's more realistic to reduce the amount of hours one is allowed to work in a week, technically it's 48 at the moment (with a coercive opt out), we should at least bring it down to 40 and incrementally reduce it from there in the long term.

  • @gperch
    @gperch 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Key workers are those who society can't function without, are paid the least and are unlikely to ever get a 4 day working week.

    • @iainmcmillan2208
      @iainmcmillan2208 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      correct

    • @blue_red_screen
      @blue_red_screen 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And they keep accepting that treatment?

    • @Tommyleini
      @Tommyleini 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@blue_red_screen Yes, they can choose to accept that treatment, or starve. That's the economy

    • @LWQ15881
      @LWQ15881 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Tommyleini It’s not a very good economy if they can’t find employment elsewhere and therefore starve as a consequence but ay, thats the economy of course!

    • @plagiarisedwords
      @plagiarisedwords 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I don't get this line of argument.
      There are people whose jobs don't allow them to see family regularly. E.g. working on oil rigs, cruise ships, in the military deployed abroad.
      Isn't it unfair that others get to go home and see their loved ones every day. We should force everyone to live in the office so it's fair.
      Also police, doctors and nurses need to work on weekends. It's unfair others get to not work on the weekend. People should just work 7 days a week I guess.

  • @stephencartwright8355
    @stephencartwright8355 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I think it would be a huge boost for childcare potentially. Not having to pay that extra day.

    • @christopherjohnson5486
      @christopherjohnson5486 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Could even save 2 days a week if you did opposing extra day off with your partner

    • @glostergloster6945
      @glostergloster6945 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Problem is, your employer might see some benefit in not having to pay you that extra day too.

    • @christopherjohnson5486
      @christopherjohnson5486 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @glostergloster6945 no that's the whole point it's 4 days same pay. But the employer pays the same wage and the mutual benefit is increases productivity (which all the data points to significant, sustained productivity gains) and the employees get shorter hours. Ultimately it's only the same as what happened during the industrial revolution when slightly more open minded factory owners did things like put large windows in their factory and generally improved working conditions, they were suddenly destroying the competition as they treated their people well and those workers worked even harder as they could see and feel the benefit to their lives. It's simple motivation at the end of the day

  • @MrEvilDarthPenguin
    @MrEvilDarthPenguin 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I previously worked at a company that had a "9-day fortnight" rather than a 4-day working week, and even that made a massive difference. The company I am with now has pushed back on a 4-day working week, sticking with a traditional structure and at times it's draining. The weekends are spent doing odd jobs rather than having downtime, something which I used the Friday off for and then enjoying the weekend taking time to recharge. Even the 5 day week felt like a bonus because you were coming off the back of a 3 day weekend, knowing that next week would be your 4 day week.

  • @AndrewMcColl
    @AndrewMcColl 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Back in the early 00's I had a 4-day working week at a call centre. It was four 10-hour days, but you didn't really notice the last two, and getting a day or two off during the week made it well worthwhile.

  • @philcostello2752
    @philcostello2752 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I’m a small business owner and I want this. I don’t want to work 5 1/4 days a week and I’m sure my employees don’t either. I’d love this transition.

    • @nathc1456
      @nathc1456 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      What's stopping you?

    • @Smile200-z4y
      @Smile200-z4y 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@nathc1456 its a shitload of work to transition to.

  • @TheRyanSmee
    @TheRyanSmee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I've been working for a year at a company that does 8-5 mon-thurs, and I dunno how i'd ever go back. At first it takes a bit of an adjustment but I smash out so much more work than I used to

    • @thecrowsnest44
      @thecrowsnest44 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What company is this may I ask? 😊

    • @TheRyanSmee
      @TheRyanSmee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thecrowsnest44 its a little software house called SideQuest. We make and catalogue VR games

    • @TheRyanSmee
      @TheRyanSmee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thecrowsnest44 it was a little difficult to adjust to at first because I’d worked for my entire adult life seeing Wednesday as getting past a lot of meetings and getting head down to complete stuff before the end of the week. But now Wednesday is almost end of the week haha so it takes adjustment.

  • @TheRepublicOfYhonai
    @TheRepublicOfYhonai 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is such a smart move, humans naturally want to work around half of daylight hours, so this would get us much much closer to that equilibrium.

  • @chuggermagic
    @chuggermagic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    5:05 New technologies have consistently increased per worker productivity since the 80's, compensation has not risen to match it. A worker being more productive won't change their lot in the modern world.

  • @sluglife9785
    @sluglife9785 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I don't care if it makes us less productive. Stop thinking in that narrow channel. If it gives us time and space to focus on improving the health of our people and our culture, it's worth it. That's a kind of value that isn't measured in coinage.

  • @smitchy3993
    @smitchy3993 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    What about a 3 day working week? Larger taxes on corporations and 4 days for leisure, further education, or housework

    • @tfinde
      @tfinde 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Here here

    • @jessicanorris3614
      @jessicanorris3614 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm doing that now, and it's still a struggle to fit everything in (a couple of evenings of classes a week to learn a new language, one fitness class at weekends, minimal socialising, cooking, and housework)

    • @diabl2master
      @diabl2master 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Baby steps

    • @aleph8888
      @aleph8888 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just tax the rich and you can live on government subsidies

  • @connorbroadhead3170
    @connorbroadhead3170 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Btw alot of bus drivers have been doing 4 days weeks for a long time

    • @Josh95x
      @Josh95x 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With a reduction in productivity per driver from if they were working 5

    • @connorbroadhead3170
      @connorbroadhead3170 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Josh95x not really no, most drivers on a 4 day board will do the same 40 hours (10 hour days).

    • @Josh95x
      @Josh95x 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@connorbroadhead3170 the 4 day week concept being pushed here is less hours for the same pay with no loss in productivity. For your example to work they would have had to have been working say 50 hours in 5 days dropped to 4 days doing 40 hours with no loss in productivity i.e. the same distance travelled, which I'm saying is impossible

    • @connorbroadhead3170
      @connorbroadhead3170 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Josh95x being fully rested and happier would probably see an increase in productivity. It's an experiment I haven't done but it would be very interesting to see the results

  • @fintamaria2429
    @fintamaria2429 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I hope young people don't postpone their lives to produce billions for these Oligarchies.

  • @Reprogrammed_By_SEGA
    @Reprogrammed_By_SEGA 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The problem is most employers will go yeah ok 4 day work week sure you got it, but you'll be doing 12 hour shifts. It is important that people nail that caveat to the wall first.

  • @jakemilkbassist
    @jakemilkbassist 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Its like these people have never worked in a corperate job and do not know how corperations think. They will not give anyone a free day for the same pay, just watch as they give us 4/5 the pay for the same job. It is not even possible for many roles and will create further animosity amongst the working class.

    • @Burty117
      @Burty117 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's easy, corporate jobs are usually 9am-5pm, with an hours lunch, so 7 hours of work time, just extend the hours to 8am-6pm, you make up those missing hours over the four days.

    • @jakemilkbassist
      @jakemilkbassist 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ that is a possibility in practice however the way executives make decisions around productivity etc is what I’m more concerned with. Also business is international now and the amount of people I’ve seen begrudge having to go back to the office purely because their American counterparts are indicates the decision isn’t even on a local level for a lot of companies.

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They don't even have to bang on about "the same pay", if everybody had their hours capped to the same level, our purchasing power would at least domestically remain similar amongst ourselves albeit those working part time will have a relative boost as their wages will be closer to the new full time wage.

  • @alibushell6762
    @alibushell6762 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The UK is terrible at actually harnessing staff time to do something meaningful. I used to work in a company where I was an assistant to a manager and I was able to automate a lot of functions so for most of the day I had nothing to do. I even suggested to the section head that I could use my spare capacity to help other sections that were overworked and his response was "no because that makes us look like we don't have anything to do".

  • @SpiderAds-86
    @SpiderAds-86 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its long been an open secret that a lot of office workers are doing a fairly minimal amount of work every day. I've never worked a job where less hours would make me more productive because I actually WORK the hours I'm supposed to.

  • @finlayrobertson1355
    @finlayrobertson1355 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My workplace is trying to move to a 4 day week but they don't want employees to drop hours so they are asking people to work 32 -38 hour weeks in 4 days

    • @ibraheemmonks8866
      @ibraheemmonks8866 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This makes so much sense to me, working say four 10 hour shifts and getting 3 days off. Sure they might be a bit more challenging but you can get so much more done over the weekend and actually feel refreshed that it’s worth it.

    • @matticulas
      @matticulas 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's fine for people if childcare doesn't get in the way but if you even need to do either a school drop off or collection then that might present a problem unless breakfast/after school clubs can accommodate.

    • @Reprogrammed_By_SEGA
      @Reprogrammed_By_SEGA 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Many people work 4 day work weeks but are on 12 hour shifts, 48 hours and they are often still asked to work more. People really need to get into the details before they start praising a 4 day work week. Also you get less holiday entitlement. So you get screw there too.

  • @adam7802
    @adam7802 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    People keep saying this and not saying what this typically in most cases means compressing a 5 day week into a 4 day week.
    Maybe for some people that's great, but I've absolutely no desire for that myself.

  • @alexanderjones1265
    @alexanderjones1265 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Been working 4 days a week for 2 years now (for 4 fifths of pay). Timed it for when my student loan repayments ended which softened the drop in pay.

    • @nweston99
      @nweston99 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yes, but four 4/5's of pay, that's not a four day working week, that's working part time. The campaign is to change the definition of what full time is

    • @cad4246
      @cad4246 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also been on 4/5 pay for over a year and would never go back.
      No kids, live in a flat, no extravagances. Born in 81 so old enough to have bought the flat before prices went insane.
      If you can cut back on expenses to make 4/5 salary work, you should try it.
      And this is the one time tax works in your favour. 4/5 is taken off pre tax so it's not quite as bad post tax.

  • @rand0mati0n
    @rand0mati0n 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Would recommend you guys try to talk to Dr Pedro Gomes author of Friday is the New Saturday for some great economic insights on the benefits of this.

  • @densedogdriving5801
    @densedogdriving5801 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sainsburys- opted in to a 4 day week. Did 4 weeks of it over 3 years. Left due to lack of work/life balance. Re advertised my role as 4 day week 😂

  • @philcrawford325
    @philcrawford325 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I heard that Iceland (the country, not the retail chain) trialled a four-day week and it was successful, with increased happiness and productivity. Is that true?
    I feel that, in Britain, employers would take the attitude that employees working five days a week are slackers if their productivity would increase in a four-day week.

  • @Channel1a814
    @Channel1a814 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way to make work more meaningful is to enhance pay, and that comes from the government easing taxes on workers and business start ups. Work for 99% of people is a means to an end, so make the end (money and therefore quality of life) worth the means (work).

  • @laurynasmisevicius8955
    @laurynasmisevicius8955 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But how much of these 4 day week companies are tech companies that are very operational? E.g working in tech support?

  • @jadedpersimmon3409
    @jadedpersimmon3409 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd be interested to know how the Foundation removes the impact from other factors, i.e. if a companies profits have improved since introducing a 4 day working week, how do they validate that it is because the company has introduced a 4 day week.

  • @CriticalDamage-pz8dt
    @CriticalDamage-pz8dt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The "is it fair?" argument has always been silly (I know Ava is just playing devil's advocate here).
    Pro/cons at work have never been fair. Is it fair that a driver gets to travel while receptionist has to sit in place? Or that two people working in the same office get different pay? Or that teachers get a large block of holiday, but not as much when they would like.
    Different roles get different perks and recompense. The 4 day week is just another form of recompense.

  • @johndinsdale1707
    @johndinsdale1707 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So, hard thinking creative people can only be sustained for periods of about 3 hours and working longer on a day means less productivity. Maybe if your job is a do a task with a defined process (support call or fix, process a document or transaction) this can be done for longer periods (10 hours). With holidays and bank holidays and weekends stay the same then people will extend holidays for weeks.

  • @tom4626
    @tom4626 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can’t see how AI won’t just benefit business profits through labour cost reductions.

  • @anthonydevono8833
    @anthonydevono8833 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In ideal world this would be great but companies will not allow it they like to keep their workers miserable at work

  • @brucey2166
    @brucey2166 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So many roles in my company could adopt this policy. Might forward this to my boss 😂

  • @Dark_Embracer
    @Dark_Embracer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And what about elderly care and child care?

  • @farallimacha
    @farallimacha 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not going to happen to anyone who is doing a physical job.

  • @jymbeau3633
    @jymbeau3633 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All of the attempts to restructure work and the work life balance; WFH, 4 day weeks, etc. All of it goes away if people have a sense that work is going to improve the material circumstances of their lives. If working hard can buy you into a better life then history shows that people are happy, eager, to do it. Right now it doesn’t and so folk have given up trying.

  • @joshb7415
    @joshb7415 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a no brainer, who would say no

  • @alanbailie5458
    @alanbailie5458 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely would love this. But I suspect some of the benefits we are seeing are based on a bias of people thinking they are better off. If everyone was working 4 days a week, then many people will think my 4 days is the norm and would not feel like it is a 'benefit'

  • @macsmiffy2197
    @macsmiffy2197 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Most nursing shifts are ‘long days’ of 12-14 hours which means hospitals are used to managing fewer days for staff. But reducing hours with the staff shortages would be more problematic.

  • @lewismcnicholas2631
    @lewismcnicholas2631 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I do think it’s a win-win situation generally. Your guest needs to say fewer not less when talking about hours though 😂

  • @Oziji
    @Oziji 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    early cause i should be working

  • @kindcitizen-oe5ck
    @kindcitizen-oe5ck 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Obviously some jobs are easier suited to implement this than others but a 4 day week is perfectly achievable for most jobs. Dont forget that a 4-day week is not exactly a 4 day week, you could do a 4-day average by giving staff more annual leaves for example, 52 days off a year may seem outrageous but if employees allowed staff to purchase extra days to reach this 4-day average then those that want to work 4-days can and those that don't do not.

  • @grahammorris1580
    @grahammorris1580 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As long as these people are paid for a 4 day week then fine

  • @DanJHayes
    @DanJHayes 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *fewer *fewer *fewer...

  • @70agrr
    @70agrr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It'll backfire, they'll want longer shifts over 4 days, or it'll be used to keep a lid on wages

    • @Prawny
      @Prawny 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Those businesses will struggle to find employees to do work.

  • @Josh95x
    @Josh95x 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If everyone worked fewer hours as they became more productive per hour then their overall productivity would remain stagnant and the economy wouldn't grow

    • @clementattlee6984
      @clementattlee6984 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We need to get over economic growth. You can't have infinite growth on a finite planet. That's the operating code of cancer cells. When politicians talk about economic growth they mean making disgustingly wealthy people obscenely wealthy. If normal people don't ever see the benefit then what's the point?

  • @mj8325
    @mj8325 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would make sense with the NI tax gone up but that just means everything will be four days and less jobs super markets four day a week trains buses etc

  • @matty506
    @matty506 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you can give your workers 4day week with no reduce in pay or total weekly hour then maybe they're better off hiring less people. Also the few hundred business's who've done this are a puddle in sea of 5.5million UK business's

  • @tarquin161234
    @tarquin161234 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't get it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to work at all, but I couldn't do the same amount of work in 4 days.

  • @jackwilliams4973
    @jackwilliams4973 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ava with zero push back.

  • @DeeHxhs
    @DeeHxhs 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Long time coming. Most don't enjoy their jobs because they are either boring/stressful/rather be doing something else/don't pay enough. Add to that we work 5 out of 7 days in the week , all seems like a big joke. You are being robbed of a lot of personal time and you'll probably work till death.

  • @d-5037
    @d-5037 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It should be.

  • @Dark_Embracer
    @Dark_Embracer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You talk about a 4 day work week while both Tories and Labour have picked on people who are sick. It's disgusting what they are doing to sick people. Then you have jobs that don't cover rising rents and mortgages. Wages have not kept up with everything going up and up all the time.

  • @keithmiller1467
    @keithmiller1467 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Start getting more tax from companies and give us more time..tax AI like they tax workes..
    Small steps made by labour already

  • @bossrabbit
    @bossrabbit 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks to AI we will all be working 0 day working week soon enough.

  • @JoeBrayYouTube
    @JoeBrayYouTube 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m so pro this

  • @robertwilson8965
    @robertwilson8965 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought the 4 day week already existed

  • @nongroupthought5076
    @nongroupthought5076 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the argument is on Working hours then you could say ghe individuals work monday to Friday but just less hours

    • @garysmith5025
      @garysmith5025 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's the start and end of working days that are the causes of inefficiency, so shorter hours over 5 days tend to reduce productivity. Work those same hours in 4 days and productivity increases dramatically, and it's combined with lower costs for both employees and employer.

  • @ordinarybread
    @ordinarybread 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My firm does this but compressed, so I would need to do 37.5 hours in 4 days, 9.5 hour days.. to have one day off a week, the problem is I wouldn't even be more rested because that day off I'd be chasing a toddler around + the whole weekend, just to try and cram all my work in a compressed schedule. If I did 32 hours I'd need to take a paycut which just isn't feasible.

    • @will532
      @will532 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you have to take a pay cut? I thought the idea is that this 32 hour week would come without reduced pay

    • @ordinarybread
      @ordinarybread 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@will532 I'm explaining that the firm I'm with does not allow one to go from normal hours to the 32 hr model without a cut in pay. It's up the firms afterall.

  • @curtis1812
    @curtis1812 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    4-day week to make people happier but also poorer. You can't compete internationally as a business if you workforce isn't there when the competition is. Yes they can employ more people, but each employee carries an additional cost, so you have more people in work but earning less when there is already a cost of living crisis... this isn't progressive.

  • @ThomasBoyd-f7s
    @ThomasBoyd-f7s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Scotland Scottish parliament you vote Labour Glasgow Anniesland yes 2026 May. Labour win that MSP seat. 15 years yes. Awesome SNP MSP Lose Glasgow Anniesland.

  • @dna9838
    @dna9838 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More time to spend with our Chinese designed, engineered, and made cars (and every other product). It might make us happy for a short while, until we realise that the statement ‘we can afford it because we’re a wealthy country’ no longer applies, and we’ve lost all our geopolitical influence because of the above. Then it will be up to future generations to salvage what’s left… and judge us harshly for throwing it all away.

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's a difference between a rich country, and a poor country with some rich people in it.

    • @plagiarisedwords
      @plagiarisedwords 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Endless consumerism might make GDP go up but doesn't make people happier or their lives better.
      If you didn't buy a new car as often because it is far more expensive but got to spend more time with your children are you better off or worse off?

  • @ThomasBoyd-f7s
    @ThomasBoyd-f7s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Italy deal with Austria Vienna FPO party Thomas it win for you with Art Bezrkavenko.

  • @ThomasBoyd-y8e
    @ThomasBoyd-y8e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Electoral Reform society cover it House of Commons write Report on Austria Republic and politics Thomas.

  • @ArslanMzeckhev
    @ArslanMzeckhev 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    please go to TFL and make them do it

  •  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh yeah yeah yeah the country is sliding into the abyss why not give your employees a day off every week.

  • @ThomasBoyd-y8e
    @ThomasBoyd-y8e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get well paid job in Britain Scotland pipe dream politically. Awesome thanks. Dead end jobs in England Thomas. That working class people yes. Middle class office work is call centres yes. City of London.

    • @djstuc
      @djstuc 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Can you translate this so we can understand what you're talking about?

    • @ThomasBoyd-y8e
      @ThomasBoyd-y8e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @djstuc Look after the British people vote Labour government in Scotland and England. Thanks.

    • @CaersethVarax
      @CaersethVarax 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Are you having a stroke?

    • @ThomasBoyd-y8e
      @ThomasBoyd-y8e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CaersethVarax no. Better nice than unsettled by your bitchy remarks.

  • @nongroupthought5076
    @nongroupthought5076 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What does it mean to schools though ? They are works, will schools change to 4 days ?

    • @nweston99
      @nweston99 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      why not? the school days are only that to match to work days

    • @SpeculativeConjecture
      @SpeculativeConjecture 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Schools can stay 5 days, let parents have an actual day off everyweek, drop their kids off and pick them up - sounds enriching all round to me.

    • @nongroupthought5076
      @nongroupthought5076 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @SpeculativeConjecture but the teachers are also parents and will like time off during the work weeks , but I guess you could make the argument teachers already get huge amount of holidays, if you take it that in a year you do have 18 weeks of school holidays , if that correlates with the time teachers take off then it's a lot of holidays ...

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@nweston99 true, in India where they have a 6 day work week, the schools are also 6 days a week too.
      It's not a coincidence that our school week is 5 days long either.

  • @dorincucos2197
    @dorincucos2197 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It will happen. But i subscribe to CGP Grey's view that the 3rd day should be a mid-week break on Wednesday, rather than add to a long weekend.

    • @sugoruyo
      @sugoruyo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think, for the UK and specifically the south east it should be an option to skip Friday or Monday; for a lot of people it’s better to have a commute to work block and a no commute block, especially those of us around London.
      Lots of people commute in from 3 hours away on the start of their office days and stay in hostels or shitty rented rooms for a couple nights before commuting back to where they can actually afford a home for their families.
      But, it’s moot point, knowing how things work, I expect we’ll be in the office 6d/wk by 2028.

  • @Believe-you-me-
    @Believe-you-me- 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pay reduced to four days too?

  • @chester6343
    @chester6343 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wouldn't need to work 6 days a week if taxes were lower

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2 days of work just pay the Tax

  • @paull9901
    @paull9901 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do everyone advocating for 4 day week seem to be allergic to brushing their hair?

  • @nershcast
    @nershcast 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy seriously thinks AI is making workers more productive?

  • @chillybilly87
    @chillybilly87 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    UK is leading the way on working less, great achievement

    • @garysmith5025
      @garysmith5025 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Working shorter hours doesn't mean working less, people are inclined to work much harder when there is an obvious benefit to doing so. My experience of a business working a 34 hour 4 day week instead of a 38 hour 5 day week was an 18% increase in net hourly productivity. In addition our overheads reduced slightly as did our staffs' travel and care costs.

    • @clementattlee6984
      @clementattlee6984 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Back in the 1940s, John Maynard Keynes (the guy who inspired the welfare state and the golden years of Britain) thought we should be working no more than 15 hours at this point. I'm sorry you may have no life outside of work but that's a You problem.

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What did you think the Industrial Revolution was about? Invest in capital, produce more commodities with less labour.
      Work smart, not hard.

  • @VicousCapybara
    @VicousCapybara 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No way im doing this. I cant push myself to work at least 32 hours. Thats sickening.

    • @PadHicks
      @PadHicks 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Most people are working 35-40...

    • @chonky4784
      @chonky4784 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How much are you working per week?

  • @N8teyrve
    @N8teyrve 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’d rather just come in later. I fucking hate getting up early. We have electric lights! Why do I still have to work farm schedules. Definitely won’t work for service industry and I can’t afford a future working 40 hours a week. How am I going to sacrifice 8 hours of pay?

    • @SpeculativeConjecture
      @SpeculativeConjecture 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The idea of a 4 day week is you get paid for your full time hours you dont salary sacrafice. He literally says it at the start of the pod.

  • @JamesC117
    @JamesC117 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fine if you are white collar but this simply will not work for the vast majority of blue collar workers. Some white collar workers who work from home and only do 4 days are going to get a shock when they lose their jobs to someone in say for example India who will get paid a fraction of the price.

    • @Blorp_
      @Blorp_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And they will do the job to a fraction of the standard

    • @Prawny
      @Prawny 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      "It doesn't work for me therefore no-one should have the benefit". Crabs in a bucket etc.

    • @clementattlee6984
      @clementattlee6984 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We don't have a free trade deal with India so that isn't going to happen.

    • @JamesC117
      @JamesC117 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Prawny yeah that's fair enough.

    • @JamesC117
      @JamesC117 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Blorp_ we still have horrendous call centres that companies use. Well, I think they do as I've not needed to call one in a while.

  • @JOzzie-u8z
    @JOzzie-u8z 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You lot are dullisional nobody is getting paid the same if they work less hours its called the national minimum wage you get paud foe the hours you work wakey wakey or are you still living with mum andbdont know what the real world looks like

    • @Msqump
      @Msqump 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wind your neck in and get back to work

  • @Pollandland
    @Pollandland 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Low growth? Low productivity? Have you tried working less? 🤪🥴

  • @Midland_Wolf_71
    @Midland_Wolf_71 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My fish n chips are unaffordable on the regular as it is, I don’t need AI driven fish n chips thank you… 😉

  • @maxfryer8388
    @maxfryer8388 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Opinions on what the role of work in our lives should be aside, I just don't believe that working four days is more productive than working five.
    Does that take into account that people are used to working five d a w?
    Does the productivity gain tail off over time?
    A link to sources would be great!

    • @christopherjohnson5486
      @christopherjohnson5486 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Visit their website but he literally does state that profits and the metrics for councils all increase

    • @garysmith5025
      @garysmith5025 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In my experience as a business owner, dropping to a 34 hour 4 day working week absolutely does increase overall productivity. For us that was an 11% drop in hours, but hourly productivity increased by 18%. 25+years later we can see how low our staff turnover has been compared to other similar businesses. Having a happy and stable workforce is fundamental to high productivity.

    • @christopherjohnson5486
      @christopherjohnson5486 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @garysmith5025 the only question I have is would your retention benefit begin to suffer a little if more businesses and employers begin the same practice. Interesting to hear you've have sustained productivity benefit though

    • @maxfryer8388
      @maxfryer8388 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If it were more productive to work 4 day weeks then as soon as some companies did, every company would so as to keep competitive. To be clear, personally I AGREE that we should dial back on the historically increasing working hrs/week in the UK but I don’t see why we can’t do that within the 5day/week system, like the rest of the world. Also more festival days/ bank holidays

    • @charlesd6978
      @charlesd6978 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My experience from a number of employers is that most employees generally switch off and go into "weekend mode" by 10AM on a Friday anyway.

  • @RemyNas24
    @RemyNas24 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lies

  • @willdockerill8621
    @willdockerill8621 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I cant see this happening in construction

    • @chester6343
      @chester6343 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      With you there, it won't lol, let's face it this idea will largely benefit women.

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@chester6343 I worked as a binman on a 4 day schedule, it was great, I couldn't care if females benefited.

  • @Amat979
    @Amat979 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lol delusion. People can't even get a working week, much less four days.

  • @Josh95x
    @Josh95x 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He sounds like a kid in school trying to convince a parent to let him skip Fridays because he'll be better rested for Mondays. No amount of wishful thinking will make this work in the real world

    • @evilmario6061
      @evilmario6061 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Used to be a 7 day week

  • @jaycondron1063
    @jaycondron1063 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The only way my company would accept a 4 day working week is if we adopted a 32 hours a day.

  • @MozD
    @MozD 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    UK: We want a 4 day work week!! our jobs are dull and unproductive.
    also UK: Why aren’t we growing?

    • @RJTaylorProductions
      @RJTaylorProductions 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't work a 4 day working week. Blaming lack of growth on a thing that doesn't exist yet is wild
      Also you're clearly ignoring all of the evidence showing the increase in productivity. Surely more productivity means more money?
      If we're not growing already, 5 days clearly isn't working.
      Enjoy your tiny weekends and lack of life I guess. Give me 4 days tomorrow. I'm not wasting my one life working 5/7 days of the week for scraps while companies post record profits, gut their work force, overwork those who stay, all while not beating inflation for their workers.
      Work isn't life. Your job will be posted and filled before you've been buried.
      Companies as a whole don't care about us. Don't give them something they're not worth

  • @MinkieWinkle
    @MinkieWinkle 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4 day work week, you gonna be happy taking a 20 percent reduction in income
    No?
    Then you won't be getting a 4 day work week

    • @SpeculativeConjecture
      @SpeculativeConjecture 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Did you even listen or are you that dense?

    • @garysmith5025
      @garysmith5025 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Our business did this over 25 years ago and it was the best decision we ever made. Dropped from 38hours in 5 days to 34 hours in 4 days and productivity shot up. It helps us keep salaries very competitive, staff are happy with very low staff turnover and sickness rates.

    • @MinkieWinkle
      @MinkieWinkle 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ that's the reality of it, no business is going to let you work less and pay you the same

    • @MinkieWinkle
      @MinkieWinkle 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      fyi, i already work a 4 day week, a cycle of 8 days. four days on, four days off.
      One of two things happens, the pay drops, or the hours per a day increase. people expected to continue to do 8 hour days have their head in the cloud, more than likely, you will get a 4 day week while doing 10 or 12 hours per a day

    • @RJTaylorProductions
      @RJTaylorProductions 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I previously worked a job that had 4x 8h week where they paid market rates for a 37h salary. These jobs exist, and they're absolutely blissful.
      They got so much more out of me, because there was more of me to give. I'd go back there in a heartbeat if there wasn't someone with 25 years more experience sat in my seat
      Money speaks. More trials proving just how much it benefits productivity and profits are my only hope at this point. Maybe unions too. I can't undersell how much better everything was for me and for them. I'd never been more motivated to push myself, and it's never been so well rested and well rounded. And I could go to the shops while they were still open!
      Everyone in the country should be pushing for this. And pushing hard. It will only benefit you in the long run

  • @ThomasBoyd-f7s
    @ThomasBoyd-f7s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Noer Minghiner Italian told report FPO yes. He Super rich 🤑 Thomas. Low key 🗝️ he a friend Thomas. Art Bezrkavenko report FPO 2023. Herbert kicki run it yes 58 politicians thdy drop 30 sears Thomas. It next Austrian government. London richer than Austria yes.

  • @prismatic-elastin8244
    @prismatic-elastin8244 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Window cleaner here, can't work from home. working 6 days to make a living, explain to me how i can do 4 days a week..

    • @clementattlee6984
      @clementattlee6984 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If you want a 4 day week then get a different job that allows you to do that. Pretty simple really.

    • @prismatic-elastin8244
      @prismatic-elastin8244 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @clementattlee6984 point proven, 4 day weeks are for a privileged few not for everyone

    • @JamTaylor69
      @JamTaylor69 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can’t do it so why should anyone right? This countries crabs in a bucket mentality is deeply ingrained and depressing

    • @TheActionslaxx
      @TheActionslaxx 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      clean your own windows for 2 days a week ?

    • @giansideros
      @giansideros 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@prismatic-elastin8244 privileged? The vast majority of low income workers do 5 days a week, switching to 4 days would be in their interest.
      It's unfortunate that you work 6 days, but you're not representative of most working people including low income workers.

  • @perthshirewildfoods8760
    @perthshirewildfoods8760 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    try being self employed and working a 4 day week... you'll struggle to make ends meet

    • @AliFrostinho
      @AliFrostinho 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think they are talking about only traditional employment

    • @cad4246
      @cad4246 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I guess it depends how successful you are in self employment and what your expenses are.
      But yeah you'd earn less.
      Can't see many companies offering 20% fewer hours for 100% pay anyway.

  • @edwardbentley2648
    @edwardbentley2648 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cambridge Council already doing it. Its not going great

  • @ThomasBoyd-f7s
    @ThomasBoyd-f7s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Middle class salary £50000 per year Thomas England London United Kingdom Scotland.

  • @cianog
    @cianog 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No growth yet some how there’s going to be a 4 day week😅😅

  • @WhoisJillHarthHouraney
    @WhoisJillHarthHouraney 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    4 day work week when most can’t afford rent and food 😂

    • @needlessoptions
      @needlessoptions 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Obviously you'd get the paid the same, genius. The whole point is for workers to get a return on productivity gains of the last few decades.

    • @keithdavo
      @keithdavo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤡

    • @jamesjosep4393
      @jamesjosep4393 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or they'll have you do the Friday hours through the week, an that's it's own shovel of shite

    • @WhoisJillHarthHouraney
      @WhoisJillHarthHouraney 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@needlessoptions genius their not paying us enough for a 5 day week what make you believe the greedy wealth classes are going to pay us more for less work?

    • @WhoisJillHarthHouraney
      @WhoisJillHarthHouraney 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jamesjosep4393 I’d rather work till 6 and have a 3 day work week myself