We were living in the best country in the world. Now government is so out of control and don't care about anyone's rights unless you're an illegal. Money and supplies diverted from hurricane victims to sanctuary cities makes me sick.
Everything is broken. I used to think it was fixable. Now I don't think so... Evil and corruption is in everything. Nowhere to run nowhere to turn... I hate seeing this turn out this way.
Yes sir, you are right on target! I have had 3 encounters with wolves in the North Georgia mountains. The DNR officers did not believe me. I have hunted these mountains longer than those officers have been alive. We are dealing with out of control government expansion of power. Take care, friend.
@jordanturner5048 Absolutely, my neighbor caught one on a trail cam. We are also covered up with Coyotes, and some are Coydogs, and they are big. Not like those dwarf west and midwest yotes.
You're not kidding. They are smart enough to know that a rifle shot often means food and if it's anywhere near dusk there is a good chance they will beat you to your game. Nothing quite like the thrill of hearing them circle around you in the dark. Unfortunately I am in Chinada - and carrying handguns for self defense while hunting is prohibited so you are stuck with your bolt or lever action non AR rifle... just don't fire it after dark they will steal your firearms and crucify you for that legally too.
@tbjtbj4786 WOW! That may have been a wolf. My wolf encounters were north of 100 lbs. I have had what I am sure were Coydogs at 60 lbs. They were the size of my PitBull at 69 lbs. People need to be told about these predators because children are very vulnerable to animals this size. As well as everyone else!
Randy, I live in New Jersey and anti-hunting groups got the Governor to cancel our annual black bear hunt 3 years in a row. Then after a marked increase in bear confrontation’s and one attack that resulted in a hiker being killed they reinstituted the hunt and a bow hunter arrowed a 770 lb. black bear in a residential neighborhood. They had to transport the bear out of the neighborhood to field dress it so the homeowners would not see the butchered bear as they said that would be offensive! Hopefully going forward they will realize we need bear hunting to keep things in balance.
Washington game department just moved griz into the north cascades near me in Okanagan County. This was despite the fact that virtually everyone in the country objected. 😢
Well Phil Shoemaker does have that photo of the 9mm +P Buffalo Bore 147gr hardcast bullet that completely penetrated the charging 9 1/2' brown bear he killed protecting his clients. An Alaskan Master Guide who has 45 years experience says hitting your target fast is easier with smaller calibers.
Thank you Randy! I too live and hunt in Wyoming and Griz is on my mind whenever I am hunting where they live. My choice of fire arms is a Taurus Raging Bull 454 Casull loaded with Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetrator 300 gr traveling 1480 FPS. For many years I carried 300 gr Nosler Partition Handgun bullets and then when I handed my gun to a buddy to finish off a wounded mule deer we found out the Partition couldn't handle the velocity and over expanded with minimal penetration. The Lehigh Defense bullet penetrates almost as deep as a heavier for caliber hard cast lead, but has the benefit of sharp machined flutes to impart added bleeding and a larger wound channel. I also have a 10mm, but I only carry it when griz chances are very low. I also rely on my 338 RUM as my primary elk rifle!
Thanks for your perspective and wisdom, you confirmed my thoughts on 44 vs 10mm, my old mtn gun with the right bullets is good medicine. As an archery hunter a sidearm is required. I live and hunt in North Idaho, not as Grizzly rich but nevertheless one should be prepared. I have heard all the stories from Montana and Wyoming about the aggressive bears. Fish and Game needs a completely new direction in managing these predators. How many good Hunters need to get mauled? Thanks again, I enjoy all your content. Good luck this season!
Lucky You Wyomians, that can carry whatever and wherever. Dear Elmer Keith would agree with You. Went to visit my Daughter and US Airforce Hubby 2 yrs ago. Was utterly happy to see Folks packing wherever👍
Not in Illinois you don’t! You’re not allowed to carry a sidearm of any kind while bow hunting. Despite the fact that wolves, coy-wolves, mountain lions and black bears are running all over the state. Nobody has been attacked… YET! Keep speaking TRUTH, Randy 🫡🇺🇸🧡
I actually disagree with you, Randy, about the 10mm for bear. However, I acknowledge and agree with several of the points you made about the other "bear" cartridges - i.e. hard cast, wide flat nose, enough grain weight, etc. The problem with the 10mm is that there's a lot of "10mm light" loads out there. If you aren't paying attention to the box numbers, you can easily get 40 S&W performance, which you absolutely DON'T want for bears. A 10mm with 220 grain bullets, a hard cast, wide flat nose, at an honest 1200 to 1250 fps has been used a fair number of times (successfully) in Alaska for bear defense. The bullets will traverse the length of the bear, and the recoil is enough less than the 454, 480, and 475 that several controlled shots can be placed in the time that maybe two shots in traditional calibers can be made. The issues from your example, IMO, are that the hunter probably had some "10mm lite" ammo, and the fact that he had a couple of failures that needed to be cleared. All bad things for bear defense. Thank you for this discussion, though. I really like hearing your thoughts on everything.
The other problem is the manufacturers stuffing the larger round into platforms designed for other calibers just to say they have a 10 mm in their line up. The disparity in how 10 mm is loaded also makes it hard to put out a product that works with all ammo. If you are panicking or being mauled, that gun better cycle and not picky about your recoil management.
All grizzly bears are not created equally! Killing a 250 pound griz with a 10mm isn't the same as getting attacked by a 700 lb griz and finding out you don't have enough gun! Two guys that tangled with a large griz by Island Park ID last month put 34 rounds into the bear before getting it killed. 10 mm jammed and so did the semi auto carried by hunter #2. Spray and pray is not a good recipe for defense, take aim and hit your mark and do it with something big enough to finish the fight. For reference there is a mounted griz in the Meeteetse WY museum that was 10' and 1100 lbs and was killing cattle with a single blow.
I love your channel and your way of telling the truth about whatever the subject is. Keep on keeping on with with what ever you do and I hope maybe one day I can own one of your rifles God bless you and your wife keep up the good work
As per usual Randy you are spot on. We don't have grizzly bears down here in Rock Springs yet. But it is probably in the works. After all grizzly bears are easier to manage than hunters.
Now that was said correctly and true ! I carry a .44 mag double action loaded with 310 grain hard cast , wide Meplat bullets ! I carried the 255 grain Keith design for a number of years but in 2018 I moved to the 310 grain ! I tested both bullets on wet pulp to see the performance and the 310 grain is better ! I may try the 330 grain next and compare the two weights !
12:56 Last fishing trip to Wyoming I carried Redhawk 44 with BB 320 gr hardcast. Previous trips I carried 357 with 180gr BB hardcast. Always accompanied by 12 guage with slugs. Can't be to careful in grizzly country! Do you think 357 BB 180gr hardcast is enough for grizzly protection?
Actually there are several accounts of 10 mm stopping bear attacks, as well as weaker rounds stopping bear attacks. One attack with poor shot placement and a jam does not indicate the 10 mm is inadequate for bear defense. With the 10 mm at least there are plenty of rounds available and it is repeatable, with most people able to shoot it.
This could have most likely been avoided. He seen the grizzly from afar and stayed hidden and quiet until they got within 10 yards. This is the dumbest thing you can possibly do especially with a sow and cubs. Always let them know you're there from distance. Once they get to close its almost always going to be atleast a false charge. Not all but most people who get mauled made some pretty big mistakes. I see grizzly all the time and following simple rules haven't had more than a false charge and that was from a wounded sow who just got in a fight with a boar and lost one of her cubs. Do not suprise at close range or corner the bear and they will run away 95% of the time. Carry gun and bear spray don't get to close and don't go slipping through thick timber while there sleeping in day bed. Pay attention to bird activity big clue around kill sites.
What if all I have is a six inch Ruger double action, 357 magnum GP100 loaded with Buffalo Bore 180 grain flat nosed hardcast. This ammunition chronographs 1450 fps out of my six inch Ruger producing 900 ft/lbs muzzle energy. Actually 840 ft/lbs Is that better than a 10mm semi auto? Thank you sir.
You're right they should. But most people can't shoot them and would miss with the recoil is tremendously more. I watched a bunch of people in Alaska just recently talking about it in a good amount of them are using 10 mm. I'm not trying to contradict you and I am do not have experience. But I have a Springfield in 10 mm and it hasn't jammed yet with hardcast 220 grain Underwood. But again I'm in Washington state and not where the brown bears are. If she's dead and he's alive then it was successful.
What you said about seeing the rear end disappear behind something I learned the same thing in the 80s backpacking of course it was just coyotes in California but they just don't want to be seen but that was a long time ago it seems to have changed
What is the make and model of the 10mm? I hunt with a 44 but I am considering a 10mm and I would expect jamming in quite a few of the semi auto options but I am still hopeful that I will be able to trust certain models.
The increasing frequency of bear attacks is not only caused by moving them around & increased human exposure, but these bears are fed up, with wore out wind turbine blades, broken solar panels & depleted electric car batteries, turning up in their living rooms. They sure don’t dump that garbage in residential or industrial areas or on agricultural land. These bears have plumb had enough of it.
Precedents have been set by police ambulance fire etc respect their space. And bugging someone who's on their back being helped by EMTs and such, they shouldn't be allowed to get anywhere close. Hey Randy I've seen a lot of your videos thank you you've got a lot of good knowledge
The 10mm is taunted as the .357 magnum in a semi-auto. Ok cool. Both calibers were born from American Law Enforcement wanting more powerful man stopping calibers than the .38 & 9mm respectfully. BOTH CALIBERS WERE BORN OUT OF A PERCEIVED NEED TO INCREASE LETHALITY ON HUMANS!!! By shear coincidence, both have been able and capable for some limited hunting applications, deer sized game and below, GREAT! But the issue here is a no nonsense bear defense caliber for attacking grizzlies/Brown bears. No one I know in Alaska carried any handgun below a 44 magnum and most carried yhe big bores.. 460, 480, 500 etc. My first grizzly encounter I had a .45acp while horseback in Wyoming. My 1st thought was good Gawd horse don't dump me and my second was " I ain't got enough gun." I immediately bought a 44 magnum. I own several .357's and 10mm, including an Omega back in 1993. Great man stopping cartridges. Do hunters need a 375, or 338 to hunt in Alaska? Absolutely not. But then, why do they? Because of the possibilities of a bear encounter while field dressing a moose or caribou. Big rifles for protection, hmmm. To each their own but my experience, education, and training dictate a large Caliber revolver while in Grizz country, not human designed sropping cartridges.
I don't know any details of this attack. Randy's description said the bear came around a large rock and was immediately within ten feet of the hunter, and on him. If that bear was literally on top of him, the worst things about semi-autos is that if you are pressing the muzzle directly into the body/head of the bear, they will go out of battery and not fire. Don't know if that was the case here.
Agree with u Also, have a 480 ruger alaskan The 7.5 inch redhawk stainless, rusts like crazy 1 blackhawk 6.5 inch Two ,9.5 inch target grey finish, All 480 ruger, The triple k torso rig makes those long barrels carry real easy, And 2 of those rossie 480 ruger pumas, That extra velocity from long barrel has the 475 linebaugh coverd. Got some of those flat nose 430 grain jacketed soft points. Have not had time to shoot them yet, The lead tip above the copper jacket Is too long for the rossie rifles carier feed system. But they will feed 1 at a time, from the top and chamber/ eject, no problem. Over all it seems more the luck of the person more then the caliber, And i have come across information that clear bright energy of a person gives better luck then dark cloudy energy of a person,, Going into a more esoteric viewpoint, You move to the parrellel universe that matches that clear or cloudy aura energy. Depending on that individuals billionth of a second placement.. at the time of said event. And that is the difference between bad luck, Goodluck and great luck.
Well seed Mr Randy. Here in North Carolina we only have black Bear but I still carry a side arm when bow hunting and rifle season I carry a 357 snub nose revolver. I pray I never have to use it. But if I do I hope it's nuff. Love your work wish I could afford one of your rifles. God bless you Trump 2024
Well said Randy. Used to be we had bears and wolves well under control and had game departments run by educated people instead of fools and activists appointed by left wingnut governors whose experience consists mainly of watching Yogi Bear cartoons. The only thing we can do is be prepared and hope we get the drop on whatever predator when the need arises. At least then you have a chance.
@Steve-vx2xp How is you living in alaska relevant to my response? Fact is guides, are moving from heavy magnum revolvers to 10mm due to capacity and hit ratio. Hitting a moving bear isn't easy. There are plenty of examples here on TH-cam showing 10mm always getting more hits on target, quicker to draw and fire, and plenty of penetration with proper ammo. 10mm may not be the best choice, but it's adequate and proven at this point and likely a better choice than a heavy long barreled magnum revolver.
10mm is a fine choice with the right projectiles. But not if you haven't practiced with it until you can use it in a life-defending situation. The 9mm is also a fine choice, with the same caviats. Bigger booms don't magically make up for lack of skill. To the contrary, they generally require far more skill and experience to be used effectively. Stop giving horrible advice.
No the 9 Millie is not a fine choice for Bear defense , it’s 100 year old military cartridge that was boarder line being a lethal ctg ! Big bore revolvers with heavy hard cast wide Meplat bullets are still the best choice and it’s easy to understand why , they can get the job done that’s what they are made to do that what they were designed for ! Back when the 10mm came out I was at the range a few times and I got a chance to fire two different new models one being a S&W revolver, I remember the bullet being 220 grains ! We were 41 and 44 mag shooters most of us and that 10mm didn’t impress us with the ctg performance ! An auto loader made by any company, myself I would never carry one for emergency back up !
As someone who lives in Montana and has been to Wyoming. You have to have the tactical awareness of a potato in most of the states to have a bear walk up 10 feet of you and you not know it.
I hear all the time that if you are going into bear country, the 10mm is a great option to carry. I somehow think that a .357 with some of the Buffalo Bore Bear load is better. Mostly because I don't own a 10mm. But, if I were to be going into an area where I felt I needed to be ready for a bear, I would be budgeting for a .44 magnum for sure. The government is out of control everywhere in this nation. You referred to this wildlife employee as Ms. Mrs. or Mr. but with our current government, you should have probably done the research to find out what their pronouns are before you referred to them as anything. Just an example of the ridiculousness in our government. The bear also could have been part of the LGBTXYZQ+ whatever community, which is why this wildlife employee may have been so rude to the man that was attacked.
Poor choice of 10mm semi plus proper ammo with practice so you are not limp wristing that can cause jamming. You can get off three shots with semi in the time you can get one with revolver.
I generally look forward to your commentary but you lost me on this one. I don't have any strong convictions on bear defense in particular, but I am very dubious of this Buffalo Bore/Underwood/Super Vel/Double Tap/Corbon etc. ammunition. I experimented long ago with Corbon and Super Vel and found them to be of questionable safety and I have no reason to think that Buffalo Bore etc. are any different. These are all ammunition assembly operations and not ammunition engineering operations. There is a difference and I don't believe they have some magical ability to produce extra velocity/power ammunition that is actually safe and I have learned long ago there is no free lunch. I am sure the fanboys will have a meltdown upon reading this and all I will add is you do you; it's your firearm and your safety and I am not telling anyone what they should do. I just happen to feel that encouraging the use of this "stuff" is bad advice.
Some of the Buffalo Bore ammo is firearm specific for example, 44 mag +P+ is only suitable for use in Ruger Super Blackhawk and Ruger Redhawk. All firearms are not created equally. I shoot a 454 Casul and sami specs for pressure in the 454 is 65k which is rifle pressure!
@@davecamilleri9411 Fair enough. I will concede that if ammunition is marked for use in a particular type of firearm the risk of harm is significantly reduced (but by no means eliminated). My buddy had Corbon .460 S&W ammunition that was so hot we had to use a plastic hammer and a wooden dowel to drive the empty brass out of the cylinders. The auto pistol rounds are the most seriously spooky of the lot and I have never been a fan of hot rod auto pistol ammunition of any sort, especially when paired with the poly framed variety of pistol. Thanks for sharing!
He did and I also personally know someone that survived a grizzly bear attack with a 22 does that mean the 22 caliber is sufficient seriously dude you’re missing the whole point. Your odds are increased with a better weapon.
@TODinWY what's 2 then. A 10mm is comparable to a 357 despite what Randy here thinks, and several bears have been shot with them. More 10mm will be used in bear encounters. For all the whining Randy does about it, ammo selection is important. Also, like Randy aluded to, i dont want a pistol. i want a cannon in a bear encounter, but those are impractical so......
We were living in the best country in the world. Now government is so out of control and don't care about anyone's rights unless you're an illegal. Money and supplies diverted from hurricane victims to sanctuary cities makes me sick.
Everything is broken. I used to think it was fixable. Now I don't think so... Evil and corruption is in everything. Nowhere to run nowhere to turn... I hate seeing this turn out this way.
Yes sir, you are right on target! I have had 3 encounters with wolves in the North Georgia mountains. The DNR officers did not believe me. I have hunted these mountains longer than those officers have been alive. We are dealing with out of control government expansion of power. Take care, friend.
I’m in Murphy and we’ve seen a mountain lion around up here after cattle
@jordanturner5048 Absolutely, my neighbor caught one on a trail cam. We are also covered up with Coyotes, and some are Coydogs, and they are big. Not like those dwarf west and midwest yotes.
You're not kidding. They are smart enough to know that a rifle shot often means food and if it's anywhere near dusk there is a good chance they will beat you to your game. Nothing quite like the thrill of hearing them circle around you in the dark.
Unfortunately I am in Chinada - and carrying handguns for self defense while hunting is prohibited so you are stuck with your bolt or lever action non AR rifle... just don't fire it after dark they will steal your firearms and crucify you for that legally too.
@@CharlesRyan-f3jNorth fl o. The ga line. A few days ago shot a coyote. It was big really looked more like a wolf.
On my hog scale 138 lbs.
@tbjtbj4786 WOW! That may have been a wolf. My wolf encounters were north of 100 lbs. I have had what I am sure were Coydogs at 60 lbs. They were the size of my PitBull at 69 lbs. People need to be told about these predators because children are very vulnerable to animals this size. As well as everyone else!
Randy, I live in New Jersey and anti-hunting groups got the Governor to cancel our annual black bear hunt 3 years in a row. Then after a marked increase in bear confrontation’s and one attack that resulted in a hiker being killed they reinstituted the hunt and a bow hunter arrowed a 770 lb. black bear in a residential neighborhood. They had to transport the bear out of the neighborhood to field dress it so the homeowners would not see the butchered bear as they said that would be offensive! Hopefully going forward they will realize we need bear hunting to keep things in balance.
Wyoming doesn't have an unlimited elk hunt this year either 🤔
You sir are a wise man. A national treasure. Thank you!
Thank you Randy. Appreciate your wisdom and your stories
That’s the great thing about your country. The right to protect yourself.
Thank you folks again. Gerald.
Washington game department just moved griz into the north cascades near me in Okanagan County. This was despite the fact that virtually everyone in the country objected. 😢
Well said sir ,thank you
i totally agree
Well Phil Shoemaker does have that photo of the 9mm +P Buffalo Bore 147gr hardcast bullet that completely penetrated the charging 9 1/2' brown bear he killed protecting his clients. An Alaskan Master Guide who has 45 years experience says hitting your target fast is easier with smaller calibers.
the world has gone to #$%& in a hand basket. you 2 take care.
Thank you
Thank you Randy! I too live and hunt in Wyoming and Griz is on my mind whenever I am hunting where they live. My choice of fire arms is a Taurus Raging Bull 454 Casull loaded with Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetrator 300 gr traveling 1480 FPS. For many years I carried 300 gr Nosler Partition Handgun bullets and then when I handed my gun to a buddy to finish off a wounded mule deer we found out the Partition couldn't handle the velocity and over expanded with minimal penetration. The Lehigh Defense bullet penetrates almost as deep as a heavier for caliber hard cast lead, but has the benefit of sharp machined flutes to impart added bleeding and a larger wound channel. I also have a 10mm, but I only carry it when griz chances are very low. I also rely on my 338 RUM as my primary elk rifle!
Thanks for your perspective and wisdom, you confirmed my thoughts on 44 vs 10mm, my old mtn gun with the right bullets is good medicine. As an archery hunter a sidearm is required. I live and hunt in North Idaho, not as Grizzly rich but nevertheless one should be prepared. I have heard all the stories from Montana and Wyoming about the aggressive bears. Fish and Game needs a completely new direction in managing these predators. How many good Hunters need to get mauled? Thanks again, I enjoy all your content. Good luck this season!
Lucky You Wyomians, that can carry whatever and wherever. Dear Elmer Keith would agree with You. Went to visit my Daughter and US Airforce Hubby 2 yrs ago. Was utterly happy to see Folks packing wherever👍
Elmer Keith was of much the same mind....
Not in Illinois you don’t! You’re not allowed to carry a sidearm of any kind while bow hunting. Despite the fact that wolves, coy-wolves, mountain lions and black bears are running all over the state. Nobody has been attacked… YET!
Keep speaking TRUTH, Randy 🫡🇺🇸🧡
It's the same in Chinada. Even if you jump through the hoops to own one legally all you can do with it is take it to the range.
I agree with you!
Well said Mr Selby
If I could give you multiple thumbs up, I would, Sir
Thankyou
Well, it seems like they care more about the bear than they care about the human being that has been bitten almost in half, but I agree with you 100%.
I actually disagree with you, Randy, about the 10mm for bear. However, I acknowledge and agree with several of the points you made about the other "bear" cartridges - i.e. hard cast, wide flat nose, enough grain weight, etc.
The problem with the 10mm is that there's a lot of "10mm light" loads out there. If you aren't paying attention to the box numbers, you can easily get 40 S&W performance, which you absolutely DON'T want for bears. A 10mm with 220 grain bullets, a hard cast, wide flat nose, at an honest 1200 to 1250 fps has been used a fair number of times (successfully) in Alaska for bear defense. The bullets will traverse the length of the bear, and the recoil is enough less than the 454, 480, and 475 that several controlled shots can be placed in the time that maybe two shots in traditional calibers can be made.
The issues from your example, IMO, are that the hunter probably had some "10mm lite" ammo, and the fact that he had a couple of failures that needed to be cleared. All bad things for bear defense.
Thank you for this discussion, though. I really like hearing your thoughts on everything.
The problem in some of these cases is that people use the wrong bullets, JHP instead of FMJ, which do not penetrate adequately on bears.
by 10mm you mean 40 cal dumdum. You drank the coolaid
The other problem is the manufacturers stuffing the larger round into platforms designed for other calibers just to say they have a 10 mm in their line up. The disparity in how 10 mm is loaded also makes it hard to put out a product that works with all ammo. If you are panicking or being mauled, that gun better cycle and not picky about your recoil management.
@@robertneal4112 any firearm used for bear defense should be tested to run 100% reliably before it is taken into the woods.
@PassivePortfolios nothing is ever 100%...
Yes sir well said. God bless you and your family I pray you never get attacked. Thank you for your knowledge.
All grizzly bears are not created equally! Killing a 250 pound griz with a 10mm isn't the same as getting attacked by a 700 lb griz and finding out you don't have enough gun! Two guys that tangled with a large griz by Island Park ID last month put 34 rounds into the bear before getting it killed. 10 mm jammed and so did the semi auto carried by hunter #2. Spray and pray is not a good recipe for defense, take aim and hit your mark and do it with something big enough to finish the fight. For reference there is a mounted griz in the Meeteetse WY museum that was 10' and 1100 lbs and was killing cattle with a single blow.
Consider this; People left unchecked eventually resort to evil. We have a government full of people running unchecked.
I love your channel and your way of telling the truth about whatever the subject is. Keep on keeping on with with what ever you do and I hope maybe one day I can own one of your rifles God bless you and your wife keep up the good work
THANK YOU SIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100% well said
As per usual Randy you are spot on. We don't have grizzly bears down here in Rock Springs yet. But it is probably in the works. After all grizzly bears are easier to manage than hunters.
Now that was said correctly and true ! I carry a .44 mag double action loaded with 310 grain hard cast , wide Meplat bullets !
I carried the 255 grain Keith design for a number of years but in 2018 I moved to the 310 grain !
I tested both bullets on wet pulp to see the performance and the 310 grain is better !
I may try the 330 grain next and compare the two weights !
Rock'n my Ruger Toklat chambered in 454 Casull. Its a double action, has a 5" barrel and rides in a Diamond D chest holster.
12:56 Last fishing trip to Wyoming I carried Redhawk 44 with BB 320 gr hardcast. Previous trips I carried 357 with 180gr BB hardcast. Always accompanied by 12 guage with slugs. Can't be to careful in grizzly country! Do you think 357 BB 180gr hardcast is enough for grizzly protection?
Actually there are several accounts of 10 mm stopping bear attacks, as well as weaker rounds stopping bear attacks. One attack with poor shot placement and a jam does not indicate the 10 mm is inadequate for bear defense. With the 10 mm at least there are plenty of rounds available and it is repeatable, with most people able to shoot it.
This could have most likely been avoided. He seen the grizzly from afar and stayed hidden and quiet until they got within 10 yards. This is the dumbest thing you can possibly do especially with a sow and cubs. Always let them know you're there from distance. Once they get to close its almost always going to be atleast a false charge. Not all but most people who get mauled made some pretty big mistakes. I see grizzly all the time and following simple rules haven't had more than a false charge and that was from a wounded sow who just got in a fight with a boar and lost one of her cubs. Do not suprise at close range or corner the bear and they will run away 95% of the time. Carry gun and bear spray don't get to close and don't go slipping through thick timber while there sleeping in day bed. Pay attention to bird activity big clue around kill sites.
What if all I have is a six inch Ruger double action, 357 magnum GP100 loaded with Buffalo Bore 180 grain flat nosed hardcast. This ammunition chronographs 1450 fps out of my six inch Ruger producing 900 ft/lbs muzzle energy. Actually 840 ft/lbs
Is that better than a 10mm semi auto?
Thank you sir.
I live in Minnesota our DNR is incompetent I wish we could drain the swamp. I approve this message…
Maybe I should keep my 475 Linebaugh!
You're right they should. But most people can't shoot them and would miss with the recoil is tremendously more. I watched a bunch of people in Alaska just recently talking about it in a good amount of them are using 10 mm.
I'm not trying to contradict you and I am do not have experience.
But I have a Springfield in 10 mm and it hasn't jammed yet with hardcast 220 grain Underwood. But again I'm in Washington state and not where the brown bears are.
If she's dead and he's alive then it was successful.
What you said about seeing the rear end disappear behind something I learned the same thing in the 80s backpacking of course it was just coyotes in California but they just don't want to be seen but that was a long time ago it seems to have changed
Those Buffalo Bore hard cast rounds produce over 1500ftlbs at the muzzle. Over double of the 10mm auto with any round.
Love the fire. Can you expand on what exactly the game people are doing with the bears to make them less fearful of humans?
What is the make and model of the 10mm? I hunt with a 44 but I am considering a 10mm and I would expect jamming in quite a few of the semi auto options but I am still hopeful that I will be able to trust certain models.
I like the way you think. We have the same mentality on most topics you speak on. Will see you soon, have a ruger that needs professional help.
The increasing frequency of bear attacks is not only caused by moving them around & increased human exposure, but these bears are fed up, with wore out wind turbine blades, broken solar panels & depleted electric car batteries, turning up in their living rooms.
They sure don’t dump that garbage in residential or industrial areas or on agricultural land.
These bears have plumb had enough of it.
I haven't hunted in griz country yet bet when I do I will be carrying what Randy advises.
The 480 ruger is an excellent choice.
Precedents have been set by police ambulance fire etc respect their space. And bugging someone who's on their back being helped by EMTs and such, they shouldn't be allowed to get anywhere close. Hey Randy I've seen a lot of your videos thank you you've got a lot of good knowledge
The 10mm is taunted as the .357 magnum in a semi-auto. Ok cool.
Both calibers were born from American Law Enforcement wanting more powerful man stopping calibers than the .38 & 9mm respectfully. BOTH CALIBERS WERE BORN OUT OF A PERCEIVED NEED TO INCREASE LETHALITY ON HUMANS!!!
By shear coincidence, both have been able and capable for some limited hunting applications, deer sized game and below, GREAT!
But the issue here is a no nonsense bear defense caliber for attacking grizzlies/Brown bears. No one I know in Alaska carried any handgun below a 44 magnum and most carried yhe big bores.. 460, 480, 500 etc.
My first grizzly encounter I had a .45acp while horseback in Wyoming. My 1st thought was good Gawd horse don't dump me and my second was " I ain't got enough gun." I immediately bought a 44 magnum.
I own several .357's and 10mm, including an Omega back in 1993. Great man stopping cartridges.
Do hunters need a 375, or 338 to hunt in Alaska? Absolutely not. But then, why do they? Because of the possibilities of a bear encounter while field dressing a moose or caribou. Big rifles for protection, hmmm.
To each their own but my experience, education, and training dictate a large Caliber revolver while in Grizz country, not human designed sropping cartridges.
No way I'm packing a semi auto in bear country.
I don't know any details of this attack. Randy's description said the bear came around a large rock and was immediately within ten feet of the hunter, and on him. If that bear was literally on top of him, the worst things about semi-autos is that if you are pressing the muzzle directly into the body/head of the bear, they will go out of battery and not fire. Don't know if that was the case here.
Agree with u
Also, have a 480 ruger alaskan
The 7.5 inch redhawk stainless, rusts like crazy
1 blackhawk 6.5 inch
Two ,9.5 inch target grey finish,
All 480 ruger,
The triple k torso rig makes those long barrels carry real easy,
And 2 of those rossie 480 ruger pumas,
That extra velocity from long barrel has the 475 linebaugh coverd.
Got some of those flat nose 430 grain jacketed soft points.
Have not had time to shoot them yet,
The lead tip above the copper jacket
Is too long for the rossie rifles carier feed system.
But they will feed 1 at a time, from the top and chamber/ eject,
no problem.
Over all it seems more the luck of the person more then the caliber,
And i have come across information that clear bright energy of a person gives better luck then dark cloudy energy of a person,,
Going into a more esoteric viewpoint,
You move to the parrellel universe that matches that clear or cloudy aura energy.
Depending on that individuals billionth of a second placement.. at the time of said event.
And that is the difference between bad luck, Goodluck and great luck.
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Branes makes the Branes busters for this purpose if you handload
Ronald Reagan said it best, “The nine most dangerous words are, ‘I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.’”
Yep
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Yessir.
Well seed Mr Randy. Here in North Carolina we only have black Bear but I still carry a side arm when bow hunting and rifle season I carry a 357 snub nose revolver. I pray I never have to use it. But if I do I hope it's nuff. Love your work wish I could afford one of your rifles. God bless you Trump 2024
Lots of Alaska guides would disagree , the 10mm does the job
Good for you. Good comments. From BC, Canada.
lol ANYWHERE EXCPET the corrupt state of Ct.
Well said Randy. Used to be we had bears and wolves well under control and had game departments run by educated people instead of fools and activists appointed by left wingnut governors whose experience consists mainly of watching Yogi Bear cartoons. The only thing we can do is be prepared and hope we get the drop on whatever predator when the need arises. At least then you have a chance.
10mm is plenty, that's why the majority of alaskan guides have moved to it.
No it’s not I live in Alaska
@Steve-vx2xp How is you living in alaska relevant to my response? Fact is guides, are moving from heavy magnum revolvers to 10mm due to capacity and hit ratio. Hitting a moving bear isn't easy. There are plenty of examples here on TH-cam showing 10mm always getting more hits on target, quicker to draw and fire, and plenty of penetration with proper ammo. 10mm may not be the best choice, but it's adequate and proven at this point and likely a better choice than a heavy long barreled magnum revolver.
@@racrx728 I’ve been a guide and know a lot of guides
Where do you get your expertise
I’ve been a guide and I know a lot of guides and we don’t carry long barrels
@@Steve-vx2xp What did you typically carry?
10mm is a fine choice with the right projectiles. But not if you haven't practiced with it until you can use it in a life-defending situation. The 9mm is also a fine choice, with the same caviats. Bigger booms don't magically make up for lack of skill. To the contrary, they generally require far more skill and experience to be used effectively. Stop giving horrible advice.
No the 9 Millie is not a fine choice for Bear defense , it’s 100 year old military cartridge that was boarder line being a lethal ctg !
Big bore revolvers with heavy hard cast wide Meplat bullets are still the best choice and it’s easy to understand why , they can get the job done that’s what they are made to do that what they were designed for !
Back when the 10mm came out I was at the range a few times and I got a chance to fire two different new models one being a S&W revolver, I remember the bullet being 220 grains ! We were 41 and 44 mag shooters most of us and that 10mm didn’t impress us with the ctg performance !
An auto loader made by any company, myself I would never carry one for emergency back up !
As someone who lives in Montana and has been to Wyoming. You have to have the tactical awareness of a potato in most of the states to have a bear walk up 10 feet of you and you not know it.
I hear all the time that if you are going into bear country, the 10mm is a great option to carry. I somehow think that a .357 with some of the Buffalo Bore Bear load is better. Mostly because I don't own a 10mm. But, if I were to be going into an area where I felt I needed to be ready for a bear, I would be budgeting for a .44 magnum for sure. The government is out of control everywhere in this nation. You referred to this wildlife employee as Ms. Mrs. or Mr. but with our current government, you should have probably done the research to find out what their pronouns are before you referred to them as anything. Just an example of the ridiculousness in our government. The bear also could have been part of the LGBTXYZQ+ whatever community, which is why this wildlife employee may have been so rude to the man that was attacked.
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Poor choice of 10mm semi plus proper ammo with practice so you are not limp wristing that can cause jamming. You can get off three shots with semi in the time you can get one with revolver.
Glad we don't have big bears we're i live because there big nasty mean animals.
Vote trump
I generally look forward to your commentary but you lost me on this one. I don't have any strong convictions on bear defense in particular, but I am very dubious of this Buffalo Bore/Underwood/Super Vel/Double Tap/Corbon etc. ammunition. I experimented long ago with Corbon and Super Vel and found them to be of questionable safety and I have no reason to think that Buffalo Bore etc. are any different. These are all ammunition assembly operations and not ammunition engineering operations. There is a difference and I don't believe they have some magical ability to produce extra velocity/power ammunition that is actually safe and I have learned long ago there is no free lunch. I am sure the fanboys will have a meltdown upon reading this and all I will add is you do you; it's your firearm and your safety and I am not telling anyone what they should do. I just happen to feel that encouraging the use of this "stuff" is bad advice.
Some of the Buffalo Bore ammo is firearm specific for example, 44 mag +P+ is only suitable for use in Ruger Super Blackhawk and Ruger Redhawk. All firearms are not created equally. I shoot a 454 Casul and sami specs for pressure in the 454 is 65k which is rifle pressure!
@@davecamilleri9411 Fair enough. I will concede that if ammunition is marked for use in a particular type of firearm the risk of harm is significantly reduced (but by no means eliminated). My buddy had Corbon .460 S&W ammunition that was so hot we had to use a plastic hammer and a wooden dowel to drive the empty brass out of the cylinders. The auto pistol rounds are the most seriously spooky of the lot and I have never been a fan of hot rod auto pistol ammunition of any sort, especially when paired with the poly framed variety of pistol. Thanks for sharing!
Did you eat paint as a child randy? A dude with a 10mm just survived 😂
He did and I also personally know someone that survived a grizzly bear attack with a 22 does that mean the 22 caliber is sufficient seriously dude you’re missing the whole point. Your odds are increased with a better weapon.
@ChuckJackson-k6w as someone who lives out here. Karen, you missed the point!
One is just a statistical anomaly.
@TODinWY what's 2 then. A 10mm is comparable to a 357 despite what Randy here thinks, and several bears have been shot with them. More 10mm will be used in bear encounters. For all the whining Randy does about it, ammo selection is important. Also, like Randy aluded to, i dont want a pistol. i want a cannon in a bear encounter, but those are impractical so......
@TODinWY crazy idea. Don't get 10ft from a bear. Narf!
Paw paw is getting old-timers
No.Paw paw ,just likes to walk away on his own power.