Currently on 3.2 XR500 and no percentage gets an A+ for me on waveforms. I finally settled on running a continuous ping to my DNS server and adjusting until I didn't see any spikes under load.
I do sometimes wish more folk would point at the fq_codel underneath, and understand the properties of fair queueing, and AQM, also. Maybe even take a packet capture.
@@LowPingKing thanks, i mean the "allow ping" in the WAN section (Network settings) not the geofilters "auto ping" :) i can't find a good description what it does.
Great video. So it seems that A LOT of people are complaining about Netgear's Nighthawk XR1000 apparently not working as it should (QoS). 1. Is that really true? Is it a failed product? Are there better alternatives? 2. I'm having lag spikes and fluctuating ping in games. Will the XR1000 (or any better alternative) help my situation? Thanks in advance.
I would get a NetDuma R3. It's by far the best router I've ever owned! It automatically takes care of QOS so you don't lag and you can use their geofilter feature to find the best servers for the games you play.
It's not top of the line like my Udm Pro but it is a very capable router. DumaOS 4 changes everything. Set it and forget it. They are not out to the public yet I am a beta tester. Plans are to have the first units shipped out before Christmas. First impressions video should be out soon. If interested you could also check out my unboxing video. TH-cam.com/@ScottUnboxed
R3 specs from the box ( Wifi 6- 802.11ax dual band gigabit / AX3000 Wi-Fi) ( 1.5ghz quad core processor with 256 MB of DDR3 and 256 flash) customizable RGB. Yes the router has RGB and no it's not just a gimmick it's rather cool. As dumb as that is. Lol Stay away from the xr1000 or any of the Netgear XR routers partnered with netduma. Unfortunately Netgear never took that partnership seriously and those routers although still get updates years later they are very slow to get updated and DumaOS 4 completely makes those routers irrelevant! Stay Tuned for a bunch of R3 videos.
Can you isolate the issue by just connecting 1 device to your router? Does that also result to buffer bloat even you just have 1 device connected to your router? Thanks
On the wave form the highest I get is an A but at the bottom it will say latency will be the only thing with exclamation. I live in Alaska and I’m not able to get A+
Get the latest firmware. Install the firmware make sure you're using a wired connection. Then factory reset the R2 and go through the setup. Also sign up for the Beta. forum.netduma.com/
They're in the process of completely redoing the quality of service system. Been beta testing it it's awesome. Should be coming to the XR routers once it's stable. I'll be sure to let everyone know
Lately my traffic prioritization has not been picking up call of duty. I have it set to my PlayStation -> Normal (Default) -> then WAN but nothing is going through even after I restart my router and console
The netduma R2 is no longer being sold. The xr500 will no longer get updates. Your best bet if you want all the latest features is to get the netduma R3. I'll be producing a bunch more videos on the R3 and the coming weeks. However there are already a few on the channel.
@@LowPingKing i did read alot of stuff and is like 50/50 on the products and i did find a cheap r2 used for 60 bucks idk if i should get that or the r3 and i only need for geo filter
TLDR: get the R2 The XR500 is more powerful overall. However updates have taken years. The XR routers are far behind in features. The R2 will always have new features before the XR routers. With the R2 you can also beta test the newest stuff the team is working on. I have both the R2 and xr500 and I use my R2 because the xr500 it's so far behind. As I understand it the XR routers will eventually be caught up to what the R2 can do. If that ever happens in the XR routers will actually be worth owning. So if you want the newest things the team is working on the R2 is better. If you don't mind waiting for a newer features then the xr500 is still a darn good router.
@@LowPingKing i have one more question, i have an a+ bufferbloat, but is 29ms unloaded +0 download active +2 active upload good results? +0 seems like its not right
Asus ROG GT smashes these, and I know as I have had R1 (In a draw),XR500 .... Still have XR700 that they completly let down the consumer with regarding the firmware , R2 which I also have and got off Ebay for £42 ...so around 48 dollars is a poor excuse for a router after testing ,I do like there software but think it needs good hardware, the Asus GT AX6000 which I own out performed this router in many ways , Qos and open Nat on the Asus works very well and if not better than DumaOS..... great explanation in your video however.
Always have multiple speed tests just to be sure. Normally your ISP will have one. Then of course speedtest.net or any other speed test you're familiar with. Make sure you're doing it on a wired connection.
I’m struggling finding the right slider settings and bandwidth settings for the blufferbloat test, hit A a few times but can’t get the ms lower than 16ms for up and down Rn my net gear router tests 800/800 on my 1000/1000 plan. Settings in dumas are 75 down 60 up on 1000/1000 with an A/B rating and 500/500 on blufferbloat…confused rn
Try sticking the upload at 100%. Throughout the years I've rarely seen connections that actually have buffer bloat on the upload side even though some tests may say so. Download can be a bit more tricky. Set your congestion control to always and your downloads slider to 70% If you get an A rating then your all good. Don't worry about an A+ rating. If you still have buffer bloat you can keep lowering the download and see if it goes away. I know on a previous firmware with the xr500 I couldn't get waveform to give me a zero on buffer bloat no matter how I adjusted. The latest xr500 beta has that fixed. Seeing is how you have a gig up and down you're probably not saturating the line unless you're constantly downloading new games & torrents. So if waveform says you have + 16ms I wouldn't stress to much. What I would pay attention to is the geofilter's ping when you're playing a game. When adjusted correctly most games will only fluctuate a few milliseconds. If you start a download and the game has a ping spike then you need to adjust the download side more.
Mostly I will only be using anything for competing so I wouldn't be downloading any files in scrims, etc. But the goal is to get the lowest ping and most consistent high speeds from my plan to my Xbox Series X from the XR1000 v2. Any suggestions? Should I bump my upload on congestion control from 60% and move the download down from 75% to 70%? @@LowPingKing
Xr1000 has been the worst $400 I have ever spent. Could someone help me fix duma is not allowing benchmarks and pinging correctly. I’m about ready to do a destruction video on this bullshit ass router.
That's odd. QOS should drop it a little bit when running speed test but not that much. Set both your sliders to 100%. Make sure your speeds are set correctly with the drop down menu. Set qos to never and run a speed test. If that doesn't work use the drop-down menu to disable goodput. Run speed test again. If that doesn't work, hit up the netduma forums. I've seen others have speed issues due to various networking weirdness. I'm confident they would be able to get your issue fixed. forum.netduma.com/
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Thank you for this video.
Currently on 3.2 XR500 and no percentage gets an A+ for me on waveforms. I finally settled on running a continuous ping to my DNS server and adjusting until I didn't see any spikes under load.
I do sometimes wish more folk would point at the fq_codel underneath, and understand the properties of fair queueing, and AQM, also. Maybe even take a packet capture.
Where is it documented as using fq_codel? I read a forum post from them stating it was a proprietary system. Cake is superior anyway.
@@IrishNomad some bugs in their scripts made the public internet...
@@davetaht4989 Hmm very interesting. If their 3.3 doesn't solve many of the issues I've had, I'm moving to a nanopi for OpenWRT and cake.
The R2 is currently testing SmartQOS. It's massive improvement over the current QOS.
Cod for example is playing better than ever.
@@LowPingKing By "better than ever", what do you mean exactly? Compared to what?
Great video 😁!
Hi Scott, awesome videos as allways! Pls can you tell us what exactly "Allow Ping" does/means and when to use it aso. thank you💯
It automatically pings the host for you so you don't have to click on it.
@@LowPingKing thanks, i mean the "allow ping" in the WAN section (Network settings) not the geofilters "auto ping" :) i can't find a good description what it does.
@PAPABOOMBANG Oh. My bad 😬. It allows your network to be pinged. No need to keep it active.
@@LowPingKing thank you much man👍
Great video.
So it seems that A LOT of people are complaining about Netgear's Nighthawk XR1000 apparently not working as it should (QoS).
1. Is that really true? Is it a failed product? Are there better alternatives?
2. I'm having lag spikes and fluctuating ping in games. Will the XR1000 (or any better alternative) help my situation?
Thanks in advance.
I would get a NetDuma R3. It's by far the best router I've ever owned! It automatically takes care of QOS so you don't lag and you can use their geofilter feature to find the best servers for the games you play.
@@LowPingKing NetDuma routers aren't really known to have great hardware.
Is that fixed on the R3?
It also seems that it hasn't released yet...
It's not top of the line like my Udm Pro but it is a very capable router. DumaOS 4 changes everything. Set it and forget it.
They are not out to the public yet I am a beta tester.
Plans are to have the first units shipped out before Christmas.
First impressions video should be out soon.
If interested you could also check out my unboxing video.
TH-cam.com/@ScottUnboxed
@@LowPingKing Thanks a lot man.
Last question: Is the Netduma R3 better than the XR1000, at least hardware wise?
R3 specs from the box ( Wifi 6- 802.11ax dual band gigabit / AX3000 Wi-Fi) ( 1.5ghz quad core processor with 256 MB of DDR3 and 256 flash) customizable RGB.
Yes the router has RGB and no it's not just a gimmick it's rather cool. As dumb as that is. Lol
Stay away from the xr1000 or any of the Netgear XR routers partnered with netduma. Unfortunately Netgear never took that partnership seriously and those routers although still get updates years later they are very slow to get updated and DumaOS 4 completely makes those routers irrelevant!
Stay Tuned for a bunch of R3 videos.
Should I really have my games console as a rule if I have these same custom rules on traffic prio for COD and Fortnite?
DumaOS classified games should work fine.
Can you isolate the issue by just connecting 1 device to your router? Does that also result to buffer bloat even you just have 1 device connected to your router? Thanks
Why do I only have a D on speed?
On the wave form the highest I get is an A but at the bottom it will say latency will be the only thing with exclamation. I live in Alaska and I’m not able to get A+
A is fine. Don't worry about the latency warning.
Need help How to set up VPN
One question. Can we close the duma os window as we’re playing?
Ya. Just remember to turn off the geofilter when you're done.
Can you help me please i just bought a r2 and keeps disconnecting from my ps5 and all the devices i have
Get the latest firmware.
Install the firmware make sure you're using a wired connection.
Then factory reset the R2 and go through the setup.
Also sign up for the Beta.
forum.netduma.com/
Why is it that my xr1000 removed most of these settings? N I haven't received anything better since...
They're in the process of completely redoing the quality of service system.
Been beta testing it it's awesome.
Should be coming to the XR routers once it's stable.
I'll be sure to let everyone know
Soooo i get A+ when it’s at 50% is that good or ? Cause I remember you telling me to have my percentage at 75 and up
Every connection is going to be different. Connections can even fluctuate.
If 50% is what's getting you A+ then stick with that.
I guess you forgot the link 1:37
www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat
Im not getting an A+ on any of the percentages when I run a wavwform test. I have an XR1000 with 1000 down and 40 up. Please help
A is fine.
Lately my traffic prioritization has not been picking up call of duty. I have it set to my PlayStation -> Normal (Default) -> then WAN but nothing is going through even after I restart my router and console
@isaacslate9377 go to device manager & resync cloud
is the r2 worth in 2024 or should i get a XR500?
The netduma R2 is no longer being sold. The xr500 will no longer get updates.
Your best bet if you want all the latest features is to get the netduma R3.
I'll be producing a bunch more videos on the R3 and the coming weeks. However there are already a few on the channel.
@@LowPingKing i did read alot of stuff and is like 50/50 on the products and i did find a cheap r2 used for 60 bucks idk if i should get that or the r3 and i only need for geo filter
@@Kingggpotato the R2 is going to get a major update here in the near future so if you can find one used to go for it!
@@LowPingKing i will go for it!
My internet plan for my download is 1000 but the Speed test says 940 so which should I put into the router?
940
@@LowPingKing thanks 👍
Updated to beta firmware and still no improvement to bufferbloat score or device manager.
Witch beta? Xr or r2
@@LowPingKing XR500
is the Netduma R2 better than the xr500?
TLDR: get the R2
The XR500 is more powerful overall. However updates have taken years. The XR routers are far behind in features. The R2 will always have new features before the XR routers.
With the R2 you can also beta test the newest stuff the team is working on.
I have both the R2 and xr500 and I use my R2 because the xr500 it's so far behind.
As I understand it the XR routers will eventually be caught up to what the R2 can do. If that ever happens in the XR routers will actually be worth owning.
So if you want the newest things the team is working on the R2 is better.
If you don't mind waiting for a newer features then the xr500 is still a darn good router.
@@LowPingKing good to know thank you
@@LowPingKing also I have a netgear cr2000 modem, is it worth changing any settings for it for lower latency or anything?
Unfortunately no.
@@LowPingKing i have one more question, i have an a+ bufferbloat, but is
29ms unloaded
+0 download active
+2 active upload
good results? +0 seems like its not right
You really forgot about us ):
just been busy
Asus ROG GT smashes these, and I know as I have had R1 (In a draw),XR500 .... Still have XR700 that they completly let down the consumer with regarding the firmware , R2 which I also have and got off Ebay for £42 ...so around 48 dollars is a poor excuse for a router after testing ,I do like there software but think it needs good hardware, the Asus GT AX6000 which I own out performed this router in many ways , Qos and open Nat on the Asus works very well and if not better than DumaOS..... great explanation in your video however.
The QOS system is getting a major overhaul. Currently beta testing and I'm very impressed.
@@LowPingKing has it been released yet?
I don't expect a full release until late this year.
What should i use to speed test
Always have multiple speed tests just to be sure. Normally your ISP will have one. Then of course speedtest.net or any other speed test you're familiar with.
Make sure you're doing it on a wired connection.
I’m struggling finding the right slider settings and bandwidth settings for the blufferbloat test, hit A a few times but can’t get the ms lower than 16ms for up and down
Rn my net gear router tests 800/800 on my 1000/1000 plan. Settings in dumas are 75 down 60 up on 1000/1000 with an A/B rating and 500/500 on blufferbloat…confused rn
Try sticking the upload at 100%. Throughout the years I've rarely seen connections that actually have buffer bloat on the upload side even though some tests may say so.
Download can be a bit more tricky.
Set your congestion control to always and your downloads slider to 70% If you get an A rating then your all good.
Don't worry about an A+ rating.
If you still have buffer bloat you can keep lowering the download and see if it goes away.
I know on a previous firmware with the xr500 I couldn't get waveform to give me a zero on buffer bloat no matter how I adjusted.
The latest xr500 beta has that fixed.
Seeing is how you have a gig up and down you're probably not saturating the line unless you're constantly downloading new games & torrents.
So if waveform says you have + 16ms I wouldn't stress to much.
What I would pay attention to is the geofilter's ping when you're playing a game. When adjusted correctly most games will only fluctuate a few milliseconds. If you start a download and the game has a ping spike then you need to adjust the download side more.
Mostly I will only be using anything for competing so I wouldn't be downloading any files in scrims, etc. But the goal is to get the lowest ping and most consistent high speeds from my plan to my Xbox Series X from the XR1000 v2. Any suggestions? Should I bump my upload on congestion control from 60% and move the download down from 75% to 70%? @@LowPingKing
Xr1000 has been the worst $400 I have ever spent. Could someone help me fix duma is not allowing benchmarks and pinging correctly. I’m about ready to do a destruction video on this bullshit ass router.
I'm sorry the XR router are a mess.
Hit up the forums.
Forum.netduma.com
since i started messing with this... I never get my 1G downspeed..... i get maybe 500mbps
Witch router exactly? What speed test are you using?
@@LowPingKing I have the XR1000. IM using all the speed tests. OOkla app, google, spectrum, this speed test for the nighthawk. all the same numbers
That's odd. QOS should drop it a little bit when running speed test but not that much.
Set both your sliders to 100%.
Make sure your speeds are set correctly with the drop down menu.
Set qos to never and run a speed test.
If that doesn't work use the drop-down menu to disable goodput.
Run speed test again.
If that doesn't work, hit up the netduma forums.
I've seen others have speed issues due to various networking weirdness.
I'm confident they would be able to get your issue fixed.
forum.netduma.com/
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F Netgear says this XR700 owner!
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