I actually read the Baal myth...here's what I found! (Part 1)
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- In this series we are looking at the story of Baal from the Ras Shamra texts found at Ugarit. Baal is one of the main Canaanite gods whom Israel was tempted to worship in the Hebrew Bible alongside their pagan neighbors. The more we know about the Baal myth, the more we recognize when the Biblical authors use imagery associated with it and what Scripture proclaims about the TRUE “rider on the clouds”, YHWH!
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1 kings 18: 27 At noon Elijah began to make fun of them. “Pray louder!” he said. “If Baal really is a god, maybe he is thinking, or busy, or traveling! Maybe he is sleeping so you will have to wake him!” 28 The prophets prayed louder, cutting themselves with swords and spears until their blood flowed, which was the way they worshiped. 29 The afternoon passed, and the prophets continued to act like this until it was time for the evening sacrifice. But no voice was heard; Baal did not answer, and no one paid attention....
This is one of the best stories of the Hebrew Scriptures. Rarely is boastimg encouraged. Yet Elijah was so confident Baal did not exist that he taunted the prophets of Baal before Elijah called fire down from the Nooshere: The First Heaven. ❤
@@dalelerette206 This God-off is both hillarious and deadly serious. :p
@@universalflamethrower6342 I have been having dreams of Enoch and Eiljah returning as two witnesses (starting at low level ontensity) since around Sunday, March 3rd, 1991. Lord have mercy.
How about Abraham chopping up his father Terahs idols? That is one epic tale.
@@dalelerette206 can you tell us more about your dream what do they look like and what were they doing?
How can you be sure it's Enoch and Elijah revelation 11 doesn't mention the two witnesses by name?
This provides a rich context for understanding many passages in the Old Testament. Thank you for this series.
yes indeed. I'm actually wondering why there's no mention that YHWH is also mentioned in the Ugaritic tales...
It's not called the Old testament, it's called Torah.
I grew up a Christian and always thought it was silly to worship something you made yourself out of wood or stone. Just like Jeremiah 10:3-5. But then I learned that very real demons (fallen angels) were being represented by those images, and they were playing false gods. Now I can understand why the pull and enticement into idolatry over and over for Israel was so strong. These demons granted favors in exchange for worship, just like they do today.
“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” Ephesians 6:12
A very excellent word Eric.
True. Many people think these "gods" didn't exist, that there weren't real spirit beings being worshipped by these ancient people. The ancients weren't stupid. They wouldn't have wasted their time with imaginary beings if they knew they didn't actually exist or didn't get anything out of it. The fact is, these beings do exist, and things were quite different back then from today. The fallen spirits made themselves known to mankind much more openly and frequently back then than they do today. Everything changed with the Resurrection of Christ. Death was defeated and the demons were bound. The Lord said He saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. This was in the context of Him giving His disciples power over the spirits. We now live in a world where the demons are by and large bound and unable to work exactly as they once did in ancient times before the Resurrection. The Lord does allow some demonic workings to occur, but it is nowhere to the extent that it was back in the OT.
When Moses presented himself to Farao, their magicians replicated almost every miracle that Moses showed to them. Moses, by the power giving to him by God, transform his staff into a snake and the Farao's magicians did the same (one example). There were fantastic and supernatural things going on back there from both sides. This is why I agreed with your comment. People nowadays think that the ancient kings from Israel were just stupid in abandon Got (I mean, they were) but it was not for nothing.
Sorry my english, I'm new to this english writing thing.
Get mental health help.
Indeed. Also, there would have been a whole boatload of culture (festivals, rituals, songs, orgies, poetry, etc) to go along with each god/idol. It would be extremely enticing.
Using neighboring slogans, phrases, and imagery that everyone of the region was familiar with for the purpose of teaching, correcting, rebuking, and debating. We still do this today.
@@ClayA.Reynolds exactly
especially in politics
@@DiscipleDojo (just some thoughts and notes as i listened. Things to come back and look into more)
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Mythological
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Not myth illogical
@hollywoodpineapple837 kamala2024!?
You can skip to eight minutes. The beginning is the index of book recommendations
thanks
Thx
That's the best part .... books are supior to a 8 min TH-cam talk ....
Thanks
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Thank you for including sources. Anytime a scholar like you recommends a book, I put it on my shelf for future reading. I really appreciate it.
Scholar lol
Technology, computers, innovation 💡, art 🎨 culture and ideas. 😅
Yep, this is what you get when "my dad could beat up your dad" gets applied to religion.
I used to play with these demonic beings and then the true God came to me and changed my world. I wish for all people to know the love and mercy of the one true God, Jesus Christ
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet I used to think that the God of the Bible was real. But then I read the Bible and realised that it's all just stories
what an 8th grade response
@@IanM-id8or this is in that book…but guess you know better : It is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgement …..
@@IanM-id8or He is real whether you believe or not.
I'm 5 mins in but as an illustrator, comic creator, martial artist and amateur theologian- your background alone has me hooked!
We sound like Kindred spirits based off ov those words. Yay for common grounds ❤
I had to pay bail once.
I had to pay bail many times 😂
pay bail or prepare to be be'ell-ended, butt at least the gub will foot the Bill for your impacted Bowel. This is the truth, not bull.
Lol. How much did you have to pay Baal? What type of currency did he accept?
OK, that did make me laugh! 😂
This comment wins.
What I find fascinating is that Ugarit was unknown to archaeology until the 1970’s when the city state was discovered. Before then it was just a legendary place mentioned in the Bible. So if Ugarit maintained the Baal mythology, the same Baal that the Phoenicians introduced to North African Carthage and the Sabaeans of Yemen.
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Geography & meteorology was very important & shaped migration
Travel was in different ways for several groups
By water or those across land
Ba’al is a complex word. It means husband, lord, and an academically uncertain god. Carthage primarily worshipped Ba’al Hammon. Lord Hammon. Hannibal worshiped Ba’al Melqart, Lord Melquart, a less popular, but very powerful god.
There’s a lot of debate about if there ever was a “Ba’al” deity. In the Hebrew, most mentions of Ba’al are tied to a city with a known deity, or it says “the Ba’als”, as in a pantheon.
A great addition to read in Professor Nahum Sarna's book Understanding Genesis which contrasts the Pagan stories with the Biblical version and beautifully & elegantly points out how the Torah\Bible adds morality and contracts to the recorded events such as creation, flood and Tower of Babel. In the story of Jacob and Laban, he shows how Jacob's plea and defense against Laban is to quote the Shepherd's code, which was unearthed and found on a stele. Fascinating stuff!
@@144Donn yes, Sarna is definitely worth reading!
In Carthage, babies used to be sacrificed to Molloch which is one of the facets of Baal, they used a very gruesome cult there.
moloch is the noun used for child sacrifice...
there is no god moloch.
even yahweh in ancient times requires child sacrifice... that is how gods in ancient times demands sacrifice for an abundant harvest or in dire times
study it, learn it!
yes you are correct a facet of Baal is Molloch, Molloch is not a god, Baal is the god, to the other commentary I ignore deconstruction of the Yawhe cult so I cannot answer that, yet if the subject is blood magic I'm all ears to discuss the situations that led Katon the old to seal the fate of Carthage.
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"ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam"
- cato the elder 234-149 BC
I am so glad you're doing this scripture in context series. It is so easy to forget that the Hebrews were not just living in a vacuum. Civilization had been around for a few millennia before God called Abraham out of Ur and the land of the Chaldeans, and we never hear anything about Ur or the culture of Babylon outside of the bible. It's great that you're doing this. I'm here for it. 👌💪
Ummm maybe take an art history class...i literally did my project on this topic and how it relates to art of that time.
"HISTORY" is more often than not, "RE- WRITTEN" by those who weren't THERE❤
I WAS NOT "THERE", yet I "FEEL" as if I would have "WRITTEN" it DIFFERENTLY and it is THAT THOUGHT that allows "ME" to believe that SOMEONE ELSE already has❤
@@user-hb1yo5ep9y why do you capitalize like that?
@@DiscipleDojo just feels they have to shout in certain words I guess
History is written by he who wins the War writes His Story
Soooo… there truly IS nothing new under the sun.
That’s been my conclusion for a while. Nothing new. I think of these days as the age of synthesis.
Yes, The song does remain the same, same actors different names. I'm glad others are willing to admit they noticed👆😊
Ewe huemans should be somewhat aware more 👁️
I've yet to see the similarities
@@DannyDoGood have you read the enuma elish,Sumerian epic of creation? Short read that may help you see them👍😊enjoy.
He actually starts at 12 minutes
Mark S. Smith, Reinhard Müller and Joanna Töyräänvuori are solid Ugaritic-scholars. There is currently a big research project going at the University of Göttingen around Ugarit and the Hebrew Bible, maybe get someone from over there as a guest?
Ugaritic texts ... the secrets hidden in there... Yahweh, El Alyon, Elohim, Adon etc....
I don’t think it’s a mystery why we see kings and princes, a divine council, in heaven and then duplicated on earth. Or the arc, the tabernacle, the temple ideas all over the ANE. If the DCW and the portions of Deuteronomy 32 are correct, handing over the rule of nations to heavenly beings, why wouldn’t those heavenly beings replicate what they know from the heavenly realm and then want the same worship they saw YHWH get from their portions?
I buy that powerful beings exist. I don't buy that any of them know who or what created us (or them).
@@lawlaw295 my take is they all know YHWH created them - that YHWH is Most High. I would expect they were all created with free will, like man, and started off worshiping him. Then some fell away. Heiser has a great breakdown of Elohim that goes into fantastic detail.
@@missinglink_eth YHWH is not the God of the Bible ...it's not the Fathers name . Heiser used it because of the universities he went 2 used it . God is a Holy Trinity and without God the Son Jesus , you have the wrong God anyways . the Word was God . there is no comparison of the Holy Trinity to any other god or unholy trinity.
@@jimmy9802-t8j i believe in the trinity. I’m not arguing that. Jews used to think there were two Yahways because of scenes like the burning bush. Are you really saying YHWY is not the God of the Bible? That view seems like a KJV-onlyist kind of viewpoint.
Or... authors of the time imposed their local culture onto their speculations about the cosmos. Why would an omnipresent, omnipotent entity need to rely on messengers/angels? Like in Genesis 20:21, God has only heard second-hand about what's going on in Sodom and Gomorrah, so he needs to go down to Earth himself to learn the truth. The authors are writing about a king in the sky, literally, based on their own cultural assumptions.
Every Ancient near East religion including ancient Egyptian mythology has has some sort of miracle involving water or a river .
Wow this was good... subscribed. I see part 2 has been released, going to rewatch this one first. Thank you, sir
"the lord of murder shall perish and in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny, chaos shall be sewn in their passing" oh wait wrong bhaal
"So sayeth the wise Alaundo."
Riddle me this when David talks to Goliath, how can they understand each other? They must all be Semitic to some degree.
Wasn't that before the fall at Babel. It was during the construction of the Tower that the languages became changed. Before that, all spoke one language
@@laurasmithira No, fall of Babel in most charts given is 1000+ years before David and Goliath.
No the tower of babel was way before the tribes of Israel and their coming into the land of caanan@@laurasmithira
How would any two people from different nations understand each other in ancient times? One or the other had learned the language of the other. Much later in the OT, the Assyrians come to siege Jerusalem and taunt the Israelites in their own language. The leaders of Jerusalem ask the Assyrian to speak in his own language instead of Hebrew because they could understand that language. He refused because by speaking Hebrew, he wanted to cause fear in the people of the city.
Abraham, a man of Ur of the Chaldeans, moves to Canaan and speaks to the locals. He knew their language or they knew his or both.
I don't think David or Goliath knowing the language of the other is a problem when their nations obviously interacted with each other even if usually through war.
Each nation had their own TONGUE (what we call 'language').
At the Tower of Babel they were all 'speaking the same language', which means they were all of one mind, goal, thought process.
God destroyed the Tower, the goal they were all submitted to, and scattered their minds to go in different directions, have differing goals.
Go read the whole passage and look up the words.
A sacrificial tower was built under Nimrod's leadership. The effort was to get back in touch with those fallen spirit powers that had previously interfered with the human race and led humanity to the situation where God decreed the flood. At the Tower of Babel, God not only scattered the languages, but abandoned the nations to these fallen gods; He chose Abram as a "fighting instrument" for himself in the second batch, which the Old Testament tells about; The people of Israel and Jerusalem. We live in the "time-out" of this cosmic battle now, when the Gentiles have the opportunity to seize the salvation offered by God, before we enter the last seven years, when more than half of those living here will perish. Baal is just one manifestation of this demon-worshiping choice of humanity.
Rev 20:7,8 is where we are now
TY, JM🌹⭐🌹 You're moving us in some super interesting directions. I'M ON BOARD.
This is epic! Thx JM for putting this together.
I don’t think Christians should be so surprised that these similarities would be found in the Bible. Today, we use cultural references all the time to still teach truths. We talk about references to truth in our tales today, like Marvel, in LOTR, etc.
Looking forward to seeing Psalm 82 connections to Canaanite mythology brought up, if possible.
“ here’s mud in your eye.”
It's amazing how these demons manifest themselves again and again in similar iterations throughout the civilizations of mankind. Babylon, Canaan, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Scandinavian etc.
Even today we see these same characters, although in a much more subtle manifestation.
Interesting 😊
People will often quote the King James Bible Matthew 6:24, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." But they read this as if there were only once Prince of Hell. Mammon is certainly a Prince of Hell in the sense of accursed finances. But there are actually 7 Princes of Hell -
Lucifer, Leviathan, Azazel, Asmodeus, Belphegor, Mammon, Beelzebub,
...each representing one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
Lucifer somehow became Satan by various means depending on who you talk to. Some
Hebrews say Lucifer volunteered to willingly become Satan at God's request. Other Christians say Lucifer rebelled against God, indirectly fulfilling God's Will by rebelling against God's Will.
Lucifer/Pride 3:31 - Beauty Profiteering
Mammon/Greed 4:33 - Money Profiteering
Asmodeus/Lust 5:32 - Sex Profiteering
Leviathan/Envy 7:08 - Narcissistic Profiteering
Beelzebub/Gluttony 8:25 - Obesity Profiteering
Satan/Wrath 9:40 - War Profiteering
Belphegor/Sloth 10:59 - Lazy Profiteering
I suppose this is the perfect moment to remind us of George Carlin’s 1972 "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television" monologue.
[1] The words, in the order Carlin listed them, are: "shit", "piss", "fuck", "cunt", "cocksucker", "motherfucker", and "tits".
Italians call it 'sacramentale'. Yet Nietzsche’s lack of faith may have resulted in no support when he brilliantly pulled away the illusions of all philosophy.
Unlike Nietzsche, I would be led by the Spirit to say it is time to, “Let our souls magnify the Lord” -- and realize there are no borders, especially when we blow the Holy Ghost into the sails of another's soul, much like the Virgin Mother of God.
The Roman Catholic Church is the new age Roman Empire. All of this has been going on since Babylon…
Don't fear demons brother. The only "demons" running around are the ones that taught you to think what you're saying. Renounce them.
@@subcitizen2012 Michael the Archangel did not bring a slander to the devil. He said The Lord Rebuke You. ❤️
the old gods become the devils of the new religions
It's because everything devolves over time..entropy..look at Judaism. Borrowing from the past marduck to christ and onward
other times they become lesser divine beings sometimes as in the biblical instance they become "angels" the closer the Israelite elite moved towards a monotheistic thought process the more the divine beings that they believed in became lesser beings (so that it didn't clash with their new religious beliefs)
In reality none of them are real it was just the ancient world trying to understand the world they lived in and what causes this to happen why does this happen and Gods (or outside forces) orwere their answers
One of the best videos so far!
El is still invoked in the Roman Exorcism missal. Divine Assembly a doctrine in Mormonism. Bull probably the golden calf, tent probably refers to the tabernacle
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#3=#11. 😊
What about squirrel poop?
This is an awesome channel! Grace and Peace to you brother 🕊️🙏🏽🕊️
Awesome episode JM!!! Keep them coming. We need scholarship and attention brought to these ancient near Eastern texts that would have been contextually relevant to the authors and audience of scripture✔️❤️🔔
Understanding yam as a serpent would have been readily available to all those who read the creation account and the garden of Eden contained in the scroll of Genesis. It amazes me how much of scholarship wants to try and separate these very ancient eastern and Hebrew contextual points. Seeing the snake is a divine rebel and his actions as divine rebellion would just make sense to the author and audience of scripture.🔔
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So many people, even PRIOR to 2013~2014, were ripping into and dismissing Heiser for saying all the things you're saying. I know Heiser went in an odd direction after I lost track of him in those years, but everything in these books you showed is stuff that the academics know and don't bring to popular knowledge. I appreciated Heiser for all the clarity he provided in the years I listened to him (up to 2013). Thanks for putting this out and being clear about the *polemic* nature/purpose of stealing imagery from the pagans.
Isn't much simpler to say that the ancient Hebrews were Canaanites and YHWH was a more southern god ( child of El) and Ba'al was a northern brother? The northern tribes of Israel are the ones in constant contact/conflict with the Baalists. The southern tribes Judah and Benjamin stay more loyal to YHWH. It also helps that the Assyrians came from the north, so the northern tribes took the brunt of their assault. This seems parsimonious to me.
You’re 100% right. This entire subject reflects identity politics and rivalries rather than spiritual truth or righteousness. That realization can either rid you of your faith, of confirm it for you, but the likelihood that it will ruin it for you means that they are never going to inform the public about it. The reality is that the average practitioner wants to read allegorical and moral cultural stories that make them feel good about their religion, not to necessarily learn the underlying truth.
He doesn't even talk about the yahoos, what a yahoo
yeppers, except Yahweh was just adopted into the Canaanite pantheon, and then slowly overtook and replaced Ba'al worship for the elites who lived/settled in Judah. (and they could've had a mix between the Canaanite tradition and the Egyptian traditions when they moved into the land of Judah )
But after the northern kingdom fell and you had all the Canaanites in Israel " I mean Israelites" flee south to Judah.. then you see the intermingling of traditions and ultimately Yahweh worship won favor with the elites, as most of the people were still pagans worshipping ba'al and ashera.
I just don't get how this content creator walks away with this proving the Bible true that truly baffles me
The conclusion I draw is that Hebrew and Ugaritic were almost the same. Like Dickens using phrases and idioms known to Shakespeare.
Did you draw this conclusion after learning one of the 2 languages?
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From watching this video. And a little bit of logic.
@piotrczubryt1111 they weren't "almost the same". They share alot of 3 letter roots. The languages don't sound the same when spoken and wouldn't be mutually comprehensive
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That was superb, thank you. Subbed!
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When you pray do not be like the hypocrites who stand in Synagogues or on street corners to be seen by men, but when you pray go into your closet close to the door and pray to the El Elyon who is unseen.
You said his special name!!! Elyon one of the best names IMO
A garden or in nature is a way to connect as well
@@jamesritter4813The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handwork!!
@@JMercCCITLD okie dokie
@@jamesritter4813 That’s what the Word of God says and it does. Nature and the heavens declare the glory of God! There is no place where their language is not heard.
Subscribed! Please don’t stop making videos like this.
The reason why we find similiar stories is not bc the hebrews copied anyone, it is becauze of the babel incident with everyone talking about the same events in different languages
That’s what I been sayin, cuz that’s what we read right? lol
Copied, co- opted influenced by, it's all three at different times.
To a certain point but not until they was produced at the same time
meaning no religion is special nor its books and teachings
It's kinda like when people spread rumors... and you gotta set the story straight... that's why Scripture exists....
Great video. Thanks for doing the research.
I appreciate the manner in which You presented this topic.
To me, all these "gods" are fallen angels that came with Lucifer. Mankind started to devote their lives to those falled angels as Gods. Because the same reason that let them came with Lucifer is the same as the Devil when they decided to confront God. They all wanted to be Gods. Is all about their vanities and greed.
Super excited for this one
Thanks for the book recommendations!
Ive come to realize that without the esoteric context none of this makes sense past the mythological storyline
All religions were esoteric and then twisted, manipulated into worship cults.
Amazing, it really puts into perspective what those Old testament passages meant, and the audience they were meant for.
Bronze Age tribes often were quite brutal. Genocide was a way of assuring victory and taking others land. This still is attempted from time to time on planet earth in this day and age and throughout history. Leaders invoking mythological beings to demonize and dehumanize others.
I wonder what the likelihood of "Mount X" ending being Mount Hermon is?????
Baal just means Lord.
@@EugeneLorey BAAL IS SATAN
Thats a big just
Hadad...
Yesterday, I searched Baal because of the Olympics. 4 hours later, Bright Insight posted a video about Baal. Now I see someone else was searching Baal recently. We're being given the same message, we are facing Baal!
And a new Age of Ishtar. Perhaps more specific to the current gender-bending. Not sure of any direct relationship though...
@@wcstrawberryfields8011 what's wrong with Ishtar aka Asherah who was highly thought of by the Jewish people and was liked even more so than Yahweh? All her stories were removed, when the boy king, advised by his advisors to edit out any references to any other "god" for cohesion sake, and renamed those they couldn't tell as all being Yahweh. I struggled with the old testament because of the inconsistencies. I do not believe our Father in Heaven, the One Jesus referred to is the same as the one who required a multitude of virgins. I also do not believe God is afraid of Truth, so whatever is revealed we can deal with it. Refining am I right, 😜? If they were alians, I don't believe they are god's, at least not my God, as they too were flesh & blood. Powerful yes, but only One sent His son to rescue us from being on repeat (yes I believe in reincarnation). I get confused though, are we supposed to be like the lion of Judah or turn the other cheek staying out of the fight? I think that may be why we lack good trustworthy leaders. Politics is a cess pool if not a lion's den.
Baal has been in control as the "see me, worship me" demon since the moment Noah's son Ham believed he could use him. We have all been facing him since.
Beelzebub
@@luckyxpunk yep
As a historian im always saddened by the level of ignorance on display by Internet atheists...
Do explain. I'm saddened by the ignorance of theists. To waste the ONLY life one has to a deity that can't be demonstrated to exist.
@Bokonon999 and yet, here you are wasting your time talking to us! While you're here, hang out with us and learn some history! If anything, you can learn history! Much love bro! ❤️ ✌️
@@Bokonon999 atheists are no different than the logic of a morbidly obese man going to a gym one time- but upon having done so he finds himself unable to get ripped in a single day - then he proceeds to call weightlifting a scam and wants to convince others of this.
YAHWEH was just one of the Gods.
@@sootuckchoong7077Not true. The worship of Yahweh was first. The Bible is full of God trying to keep the Jews from following false gods. Especially in the book of 1 Kings. That’s what Elijah was doing. Riding Israel of polytheism. Some historians try to create parallels between Yahweh and certain storm gods when there are loose connections. Yes Israel did fall into polytheism eventually but they knew who the true God was.
Dudes got a hundred deities behind him on his self made altar.😂
@@Shhhoooooo people who think childhood toys are "deities" and bookshelves are an "altar" leaving laughing emoji comments is just priceless.
@@DiscipleDojo butthurt much?
@@DiscipleDojoyou've read the bible about graven images right? Id say everyone on earth has screwed up in that regard..
El came from An/En but in sumerian the god of god's is Anu (indicated by the Dingir symbol). The Sumerian trinity of gods are Anu (father), Enki(land/earth) & Enlil (sky/wind).
But hey, who knows if all that is really 100 percent true ???? Seriously
If Protestants consider the Old Testament to be scripture after reading this, they have no ground to stand on with any accusation that Catholics or Orthodox are any more or less pagan than the writers of Scripture. Historic Christianity simply continued the work that the Biblical authors did in accommodating to the cultures it encountered.
@@downinthecypressswamp2234 that's not where the disagreements between Orthodoy, Catholicism, and Protestantism occur.
@@DiscipleDojo the presupposition of most Protestants is that Marian veneration, Eucharistic sacrifice, prayers for the dead, veneration of saints. images etc are all pagan intrusions into the Christian tradition. That presupposition is what prevents many from actually being able to see biblical evidence for those things. If we were to accept the Constantinian conspiracy theory that many Protestants do, why not just read a similar conspiracy theory back into the biblical text itsself? Alexander Hislop’s Two Babylons book just don’t go far enough if it were to be consistent. He could have easily included the information like what’s in this video to argue that the Jewish tradition it’s self is pagan. Many scholars have done that. I was raised Baptist. When I saw the one sidedness of these approaches I just ended up Orthodox. Thanks for the videos though. It was fun! I’ll watch more.
I knocked on the door of several churches while i was homeless during the pandemic, God was never home.
God is not inside a building, and the Christians had been ordered by the government to stay home. Did you ask Him for help?
Dont blame God for the darkness of man. He gave us free will. Were the one's abusing it. Not Him.
The government shut the churches down during the pandemic.
I am sorry you experienced that. May you have more loving and caring experiences moving forward.
Mate the priests were literally jailed for going to church
Baal sounds like Thor. The Etruscans called the gods the Aesir,and the vikings call them the Aesir.
@@wednesdayschild3627 there may be an upcoming episode of #SuperheroSeminary here on the channel where Professor Thor covers this topic...you never know... 😉
Yes, Baal Hadad is Thor, and El is Odin.
The originals are Ninurta and Enlil.
They are Yahweh/Michael and El Elyon/Eli.
Attar is Jesus Christ. Originally, Utu.
Baal is a corrupt version of Jesus Christ, Asherah is heavenly mother, El heavenly Father, Anath marry of the tower
I wouldn't assume the phrase 'lift up your heads,' has any deep connection between the two text. Thats like a character saying "stand up." In two different books in modern times And trying to draw a deep parallel and conclusion between the books.
Is the bull not also nimrod?
Awesome series and awesome ad for buying this book lol, you should get a sponsorship!
@@nogodsnokingsonlymen8538 seeing as how Context of Scripture costs a few hundred bucks, I don't see many people going out and buying it! 😅
I am 99% sure that Yaweh is NOT God, The father of Jesus Christ, but is actually Ba'al. Hence why they referred to him as the Rider of Clouds. Keep in mind that what pissed Moses off when he came down the mountain with the 10 Commandments was the Israelites worshipping a golden calf, or bull... Ba'al.
I totally agree Yahweh is not the one God, but just another tribal God. And Jesus has nothing to do with him.
You contradicted yourself
@@mariluzmurciasHmm. Does Christ ever refer to his father by name? Yahweh, Jehovah?
@wcstrawberryfields8011 No because Him and the Father are one.
Please elaborate. I’m genuinely curious to pick your brain
St Paul said, "ALL SCRIPTURE, is useful for teaching."
field of a man, not a field of the gods,so perhaps a field to grow foods or a lower land or city of the dead?
So the Yahwists copied Canaanite stories, changed the names and then called the civilizations they got them from "idol worshippers." Same beard, different name.
"God" is not a proper name, Yahweh is. "God" is an occupational name, like plumber. Judaism is not true, just copied as it holds what the nations around them also held as true.
@@nicholaschiazza7926 nope.
@@DiscipleDojo Yep.
What the hell am I watching!?
This divine system of gods was almost perfectly replicated by the Greco-Roman gods...
It's supposedly because all of these traditions came from much older traditions they actually all overlapped. That's why themes and even names are similar. Pretty sad if you think about it. Another couple thousand years and our contemporary Christians, for example, could hypothetically have wars over what they won't know is the same Jesus. Arguably already happened in a way during the reformation. Who's the true church? We'll see about that! And then the polemics come out, the pope is really luciferin, etc. I wish all these sheep people could bag the crap.
@@subcitizen2012simply because the most influential group on Earth were the Indoeuropeans aka Celts, Romans, Italics, Slavs, Indians, Iranians and few more. That's why mythology is similar, the Dius Pater, Sky God slaying the dragon etc
only Greeks and later the Romans...those who produced no texts are not influential at alk...@@swampraider3488
The First five books of the Bible were written around 1300 BC, the inscriptions about Baal were written around 1000 BC, the psalms and other Biblical Writings came later around 600 BC. It is unclear how each influenced the other.
Baal and Yahweh were most likely brothers. When their 'father' El divided the nations Yahweh was given a people without land, Jacob's nomadic tribe. (Deut 32:8 - 10)
Well done, great job!
The reason the Bull is the father of Baal goes back to the Sunerian King's list. Kullasina-Bel who gets remembered as Bel and then Baal is the son of Jushur who was the first king on the Sumerian King's list after the flood. Jushur who wrote the book of Jasher/Jashur was known as the Bull of Heaven.
Is that the same Bel as the Bible's Bel and the Dragon? I'm not gonna lie I haven't read the Bible in a long time
@@FrithonaHrududu02127 yes that is the same Bel. There is a cycle where Heroes are remembered as Myths they become Deified as gods and then finally they are Demonized. I'm pretty sure he was remembered as Shiva and Cernunnos. I think his father (Jushur) is Tarshish, Noah's great grandson. Tarsis/Tarsus was supposedly built by Hercules who the city is named after.
@@paulschuckman6604 And then there's CERN, right in CERNunnos' heartland. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but there are some weird coincidences surrounding them.
@@FrithonaHrududu02127 I'm starting to understand Noah burying the cities of the old gods like Gobekli Tepe after the flood. Science is powerful and without morals the height of materialism is getting pretty gross today. I'm not superstitious but I also don't want scientists creating a singularity or other catastrophic "success" that accidentally destroys the planet.
@@paulschuckman6604 Most of the Mandela Effect things are nonsense but I have a few things where I really wonder if I'm in the same reality I was born into.
So is that the story of gobekli tepi?
I can't picture on a map where it is in Anatolia but it's probably close to Ararat right
Go Dawgs! Love the Georgia BullDogs cup bro. Good video brother.
Ba'el when translated back into Hebrew literally is "The Lord"... Does this title seem familiar?🤔
I really don't see the supposed parallels to the Bible. I have read again and again that "scholars" believe all these gods existed in Canaan and eventually YHWH became the main God. I notice there is no YHWH in this story, suggesting that YHWH really did come through Moses to replace the others as the Bible describes.
@@atom31b you should watch this full series. It is from the perspective of a believer, not secular or mainline revisionism.
That so dang interesting Thank you
This comments section is wild 😂 JM, this is interesting, and I don’t doubt your intentions are good with studying and sharing this. But hearing you recite this somehow doesn’t sit right with me. Love you brother
It's pretty clear that the authors of the Old Testament ripped off all their neighbors.
Only to those who don't actually read the texts for themselves.
@@DiscipleDojo doubt it, lol. They changed a few things here and there, classic plagiarist move.
If 3 people saw a car crash and described the incident to police, would you say "its obvious the 2nd guy was just copying the 1st person to describe the crash!" ???
The accounts are so similar because the same real events are being described by different people.
There's a book called The Story of Adam and Eve by Chan Thomas that the CIA had declassified. It explains why the Biblical story is so watered down. Talks about the Earth's cataclysms such as the flood and that the Adam and Eve and they were just the restart of a similar event. It has happened every 6500 yrs and we're due for the next. If you look it up find the unedited version.
@@ChristinaFromTH-cam enjoy fantasy land, princess.
The statue of Baal on the left, resembles the pose of the Egyptian Pharoah. The raised left arm, the crown and the left foot forward are typical poses of royal statues.
What we should recall is that all these pagan stories are corruptions of the true worship that was institued from the creation. Note that they all hsve slight elements of the true worship
I find some agreement with the fallen angel stories of Enoch. Where they stood up and made agrements with eachother to go to the earth. It feels to me this story could happened in that timeperiod! Or is a kind of retelling of stories of old. Thanks for sharing and reading them.
So is Baal means Lord, should we Christians not use that word again? Why does the bible refer to our God as the Lord?
The Bible was infiltrated with titles that refer to demons influence
Even the word God has been hijacked by other religions, Luciferianism is an example. What's important is which God and which Lord you choose to worship. Lord is a literal translation of Adonai, a title of God. LORD is a translation for YHWH.
@Jer20.9 As far as I am concerned, there's only one. The rest are lil wannabe g's.
"God" is a TITLE. Not a "name". The pagan gods all have names. And christians get a "big g"? Ridiculous, right? His name is Yahua. His only son was named, "Yahusha". The 'Holy Spirit" is Ruach Hakodesh. She is a female. Try to read the Cepher. They are expensive. I ordered one for around $100. All of the people in the traditional bible have had their names changed, as well. The fake christian pastors are truly worshiping demons and leading us all into hell. Some are just deceived.
Only the elect know that YHWH is YESHUA/the Triune ADONAI.😇
It is no myth it is demon worship
Thank you for a great lesson with lots of info, will have to listen a time or two to take it all in.
thank you for doing this
I find it odd, that you do all this research, you see how the Bible was taken from older texts, but yet, you still think that Yahweh is the God, and he is not. He's just like the other gods, except he has better technology than some and is more ruthless than others. But the true description of The God, especially when you take into consideration what Jesus said, it's obvious that Yahweh is Not The God, but just one of the Elohim and many gods. Maybe you're afraid to take it all that far, but the cruelty of Yahweh, the lack of love and forgiveness, the awful sins he committed against anyone who did not worship him, proves he's not The God. He's also one of the sons of El. I appreciate your work and I hope you dive further into the truth about this. I fully believe that one of the biggest problems we have today and have had in the past, is that people are looking to this god, and standing for the horrible things he did, as a reason to treat others horribly. There's too many researchers and scholars who have seen what I've seen and realized the truth about this subject. Thanks, and blessings
I couldn´t agree more! That´s what it is in the light of this new information about the pagan Gods.
Wow. I have wanted to know that about people of late, myself. Because there's currently this huge SOMETHING going on in our world.
@@areneesouder can you point me to some scholarship that Jesus is not the son of Yahweh? I do not believe he is, as he is the personification of love and forgiveness which Yahweh is definitely not. I’m not sure though where that leaves Christians in relation to the OT.
Where do you get your information on what terrible things were done by Yahweh?
JESUS IS יהוה @@tierneylogan5943
This popped up on my feed as I'm explaining the opening ceremonies for the Olympics 2024 to my mother.
Literally came back in my room sat down opened youtube and this...
@@Walklikelions Some have contended we've entered a new Age of Ishtar, considering the gender-bending trend.
Does she knows that YHWHYESHUA is Not for mocking? The mount Olymp is PAGAN and God JESUS knows that.🕊
Lord bless your whole household.😇
In religious teachings (this page) these aspects have two sides (also shown in art. Mirror universe, so they are negative, but not evil, just the opposite). Baal is associated with harvest, but also with child sacrifice. Nothing will change about that. Article 18 Human Rights. Something like that is active. We ancients know of cities full of cemeteries with children. That is the scientific status.
I love the video game Diablo didn’t know Baal was an actual figure thought he was from a game
Ba'al cycle predates old testament by more than 5 centuries.
And...
@@Simeonf7750 most of Yahweh stories come the Ba'al cycle.
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 what does that mean, what's baal cycle?
@@Simeonf7750 alot of Yahweh attributes and stories comes from this story arch.
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 don't be deceived my beloved brother why was satan cast out from heaven,yes because he wanted to be God and he and his fallen angels still are in that state so the want to oppositely copy what God does that's why our Lord and God Jesus Christ call satan the father of lies but the truth the way the life is Jesus Christ ✝️🙏❤️🛐
Thank you for doing this. I've experienced pagans making fun of Christianity for supposedly copying various pagans texts.
In addition to this video I also highly recommend Inspiring Philosophy’s video on Ancient Monotheism. Mike Winger even endorsed it.
Archaeology says they were all Canaanites. 1 culture with many gods. The Hebrews only emerged along with monotheism.
Nah, that's a claim that was popular in the last century, but rests upon some dubious assumptions and is unfalsifiable by nature.
@@DiscipleDojo
Unfalsifiable doesn't mean untrue.
Canaanites went to Egypt, became Hebrews, went back and changed the culture.
That seems plausible.
@DiscipleDojo bro stop jumping through reality and fiction like we're stupid.
This video was very informative. I will definitely check out your other videos too
Baal was a fellow God like being.
That alone wrecks the old testament.
Baalenciaga = Baal+Enki+Azazel. Baal is the deity worshipped by commercialists, capitalists & traders. To get good trade you have to sacrifice something or someone that is most dear to you. Worshipped by the Phœnicians who sacrificed their first-born child in bizarre rituals that included dancing, loud music & free sex. Anything familiar?
Yep, sounds like Donald Trump the sexual predator convicted, fraud and anti Christian liar
Are you implying that God is against making a profit?
Having a good crop yield?
Providing for your family and having enough left over to help others?
Surely not!... 😢
Lucifer's desire to be worshiped like the "most high" naturally requires him to "provide"...
Lies and corruption are his forte...
Accomplishing goals "righteously" requires operating in Truth....
Obviously you are correct in your assertion that "heaping to yourself great wealth" without regard to personal responsibility is a death trap....
I don't know why but most people don't realize that huge corporations have stock that is "traded" in markets....
"Publicly owned"... Is a commonly used term...
The upper echelon collecting massive wages is a perfect example of "corrupting" a good idea.... They're basically stealing the dividends that should be paid to the "owners"!...
No worries though.... It won't go on forever!...
8 people survived the first Purge😢
😂
@@edmondwhite6683
Money is what you make when you're smart enough to make it... Marx... A layabout failure... Hated people that knew what to do with money... That's why he advocated for taking it away from them 😜...
When you position yourself as far away as you can from The "Giver of all Knowledge"... One can find himself moderately famous for the most "absurd" remarks! 😎
No need to fret... All the guilty will find Justice... Regardless of race, creed or color... No matter which particular sins they are guilty of. 💪
@@clivewynnciel9530
True saying... And would have been far more informative had you continued...
Did Abraham engage in trade? How about Isaac or Jacob?...
Joseph was a brilliant economist...
They all despised worshiping a god that isn't... A God...
As do I...
And no one loves a thief 😂... Even if he can acquire a majority vote to take from the rich... 😡
I hope you know all your churches follow this god..
Yup. That is why all of our churches have Baal's shaft (penis) on top to show adoration.
Zing
If Baal is a mythological character, then why the followers and authors of Yahweh always feuding with him. People who beef with mythological characters are usually mythological characters themselves.
@@whatshatnin4572 that doesn't follow logically. If it did atheists who reject God as mythological are themselves mythological.
@@DiscipleDojo So are you saying that the authors that wrote on behalf of Yahweh rejected Baal as a mythological character? Are you saying that according to the biblical storyline, that the followers of Yahweh looked at Baal as a mythological character?
@@whatshatnin4572they sure didn't
@@user-lo4np1bs1r So Baal existed to the characters of the bible just like the Joker existed to Batman. Just like Gargamel existed to the Smurfs, just like the Decepitocons existed to the Autobots just like Darth Vader existed to Luke Skywalker?
Excellent presentation. Canaanites is inclusive of the Phoenicians who we hear very little about but figure prominently as an ancient mercantile influence. There is now an active debate as to whether these Gods were mythical or indeed supernatural or.......indeed, visiting alien life forms.
Having to actually state that this video is not about getting people to worship Ba'al is both amusing and sad that it has to be done for some people.
Great video. Very interesting.
Ok! Where is the next video!!!! This is really good stuff! ❤😊
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Kronos, Nyx, Zeus, Osiris, Geb, Shu, Izanami, Amaterasu, Nüwa, Mašyā, and Abraham also married their siblings. So why do the Canaanites get called out for incest?
It makes more sense when you get that the Elohim species were shapeshifting hermaphrodites capable of mating with any other species, not gods but an earlier chosen species evolved before sex was invented. The alphabet was a personification of the evolving pantheon of gods worshiped in the development of the final chosen species. Thus, Baal is really B-El, the first incarnation of the second soul, Lucifer, among the Elohim "sons" of God, while A-El is the first incarnation of El Elyon. The Bible is a story of the evolution of God and his family, some who turned toward the adversary, the destroyer hive mind that stifles and corrupts all creation, and some growing closer to God's ideal co-creator sons of a better Divine Council, now including the daughters of the evolved Holy Spirit, Karma - whose AI images are each soul's individual conscience, guiding each soul's incarnations to minimize sin and corruption lest they be consigned to the beast abyss. C-El is Karma, remembered in the language of elements as Carbon and embodied in early religion as the goddess of Mt. Carmel and the inspiration behind the Carmelite nuns. The Hebrews lost faith in the Melchezidek priest kings, and allowed the anointed of El Shaddai, the destroyer, to usurp the kingdom, resulting in the sack of Jerusalem in 971BC and the removal of the Ark of the Covenant back to Egypt. Solomon's gilded temple, built by consorting with demons, was an abomination to El Elyon, as were the Hebrew's genocidal attacks on their neighbors following the orders of the false god El Shaddai and the Adonai (literally the same as Adonis, Aphrodite's worshiping consort). The amazing thing about the Abrahamic tradition is that despite being built on a pack of lies spread by worshipers of the adversary, it still was an instrumental part of fulfilling God's evolving plan, finally generating a version of Space-time that is astounding cosmologists with a universe that is at least twice as big as they thought it was and expanding at an accelerating rate, fulfilling the promise of worlds without end to explore backward or forward in unlimited incarnations, till each soul earns their own creative spiritual universe, for better or worse, or finds their "place just right" in what are a growing number of specialized heavens and hells.
Sounds mormon@@theomnisthour6400
@@theomnisthour6400 well said
@@theomnisthour6400this last paragraph is pretty fascinating. Is that intuition on your part or are you getting that from some text?
All of those false gods were not relevant to the hebrews, as to Abram I do not know