Baroque is my number one as regards music. It's what I usually listen to. Thanks to your demonstration and that of Haydn's oboe demo, I now know I love and adore the baroque oboe over others. The sound is so much more sweet, mellow and richer, deeper. The oboe in the Brandenburgs is one of my faves! Beautiful played! Thank you! I feel a little less ignorant now! 😊😊😊
Renessiance recorders had two low C holes (on a tenor/soprano). The unused hole had to be closed with beewax, upon the musician was left or right handed. The most of current replicas don't have that extra hole, because almost everyone is playing with the right hand on the lower part of the instrument.
@@renlev15 No this definitely sounds better. Medieval style instruments are niche but have a decent following. There's lots of musicians for this styling, I see lots of them when going to SCA events.
Again, thank you all for this wonderful insight (or in-hearing??) of orchestral instruments in the past. All of the oboe related programs I have seen so far, model the softer, mellower sound quality, compared to some players of modern oboes. Personally, I always leaned toward that side of the modern instruments' capabilities, depending upon the music. Thank you.
Very nice introduction to the baroque oboe. I examined some baroque oboe fingering charts and noticed that the fingering is very similar to that of the baroque recorder.
I've just bought one, I can play well the recorder, I played also the clarinet for 7 years, and hated the keywork, so I always practiced the clarinet etudes on my alto recorder (with a few octave jumps). Finally, at 38, I've found a good sounding reed woodwind with recorder fingerings... Can anybody give some advice how to hit the second octave? There's no octave key or hole, and I (currently) cannot reach the notes above g"...
Thank you so much for this beautifully clear and eloquent enlightenment. I just inherited my father’s baroque oboe and you have given me my first lesson in what that actually means.
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment Those 3 keys are Left Hand D Sharp, Right Hand D sharp, & for both hands Middle C. The lowest note that this oboe can play is Middle C. Modern Oboes can go 2 more notes lower down to Low Bb, although they now make versions that can go another note Lower down to Low A and even more so to Low F (etc.).
2:07 What happened was that as they added more keys, a lot of tone colors have been diminished which resulted in a fully equalized sound throughout every note, it's not really supposed to be a bad thing these days, and they even make Low A Oboes. Actually a lot of Modern Oboes aren't fully equalized on every note, they made each tone hole a different size to compensate for a lot of the tone colors that have diminished.
Baroque oboists were smart guys with tuners, so they could tune everywhere on 415 hz (from Paris to Leipzig to Venice). They stuck to their roots and if some instrument maker accidentally tried to fix a new key, p.e. to play C#', they would strap it immediately. At the arrival of Classical Oboe they would emigrate oversea, calling themselves Hobos now. Shouldn't we think about it???
I can't stand it when people pronounce "Bach" "correctly." It's like they're trying to pronounce it the German way instead of Anglicizing it or something. It sounds pretentious. Whenever someone tries to pronounce a sound that is not found in the language they are speaking at the moment, it sounds pretentious. That "ch" sound is not used in English, and English speakers attempting to pronounce it just butcher it and sound preposterous. Just say Baahk.
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment Some people like to play them in 440 if they're in a bigger area. 415 means that the instrument transposes down a half step from concert pitch.
I understand why the baroque oboe is no more used in the modern orchestral music, which needs more homogeneous sound independent of the pitch or tonality. Thanks for the compact and understandable explanation.
Adding more keys helped improve intonation but it diminished a lot of tone colors. Some companies worked around this by making each tone hole a different size.
The one thing she should have discussed was how the upper register is produced without any octave key/s. The Baroque Oboist apparently does it all on the reed itself. It's a real oversight that she didn't mention this.
Looking at the angle of her left index finger it seems like she's half-holing the first hole? the same way you would on a recorder. That seems to be the most obvious way of maintaining the upper register in lieu of an octave key.
thank you, my sampled French Oboe sounds quite 'harsh'; I would have to apply a filter to emulate the softer sound to which you refer; but of course there is no way i can trills on a keyboard, sounds most peculiar.
I was wondering if there were a recorder-esque instrument with swappable components to mimic the sound of sax, oboe and recorder. I am a multi instrumentalist and composer but never put time into the winds and want to experiment with something more than synth and to practice the required embouchure/bugle etc. Thank you in advance.
Yes, treadle lathes which are operated by the foot moving a board up and down that causes a string to move up and down to cause the wood to be rotated at speed and allows the turning tool to cut the piece to the proper shape.
Was this what Haydn composed his concerto for? I suppose by that time there were more keys to it? Does anyone know of a recording of Haydn concerto on period instrument?
Who made this instrument? And which maker is it copied after? This video inspired me to start playing baroque oboe, which is enriching my life immessureble! Thank you very much! (I am playing a copy after stanesby ,made by wolfgang kube in berlin,if youre wondering)
Do I see a wax-filled hole above the first finger hole? I do like the mutual keys. My son is very left-handed, and retraining him to right for certain things...well, I don't like that. I went through that as a tot.
For me sound less nasal. I like this instrument more than modern ones. But china oboes cost around $400 half of others. I am concern about chinese instruments they reputation: cheap and bad.
Modern musicians tend to be a twitchy, uninformed lot. Very few modern trumpet players know they're playing a long-model cornet, very few Horn players know that playing with the hand in the bell is an anachronistic affectation, very few string players have any experience playing on gut strings or know that pre-1830 violins had a shorter neck, or that older stringed instruments had up to 7 strings. Bach wrote for the 5-string viola and cello. Old guns had some interesting characteristics too. For instance, you could add more or less powder, or use more than one musket ball at a time. That's how Wolf's men cut Montcalm's to pieces on the Plains of Abraham. History is chock-full of such interesting things.
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This whole series is so wonderful. Love the baroque period instruments.
Agreed!👍
.....This Lady right here....
Is an absolute musical genius.
She is one incredible player, and very, very schooled.
Aren't we glad she chooses to play baroque music? She could be off playing some dreadful romantic composer's music. Blech! 🤣🤣🤣
Baroque is my number one as regards music. It's what I usually listen to. Thanks to your demonstration and that of Haydn's oboe demo, I now know I love and adore the baroque oboe over others. The sound is so much more sweet, mellow and richer, deeper. The oboe in the Brandenburgs is one of my faves! Beautiful played!
Thank you! I feel a little less ignorant now! 😊😊😊
Bluegrass guitar player her, but I love this series on Baroque instruments. The softer sound of the wooden instruments is particularly nice.
That's mutually keyed for left or right handed play. That's wonderful!
That would require to change hands (right hand above the left hand), never seen anybody playing like this... well it's not possible with keys. ;)
Renessiance recorders had two low C holes (on a tenor/soprano). The unused hole had to be closed with beewax, upon the musician was left or right handed. The most of current replicas don't have that extra hole, because almost everyone is playing with the right hand on the lower part of the instrument.
@@thpeti However they now have Keys for better intonation
@@RockStarOscarStern634uh no they don’t. The only normal recorder with keys is sometimes the tenor for the pinkie hole.
@KandiKlover Modern Oboes have Keys for easier intonation
Five minutes of pure enjoyment, listening to your description. Thank you so much.
“The lack of keys should never be seen as a disadvantage”
*Middle School Trumpet ego inflates*
*AND TROMBONES*
*String player ego inflates*
Rotary valve trumpet with added keys...
The trumpets in my school are so loud and they don't even play that well
@josh grant I don't know if your talking to me or someone else.. are you talking to me?
I honestly LOVE the sounds of the baroque instruments far above the sounds of the modern...
Totally agree
Hipster
I like the simplicity of them. They may be inferior volume wise, but I like how they don't look like chrome covered gadgets.
baroque and modern sounds almost the same, just lack of keys and shape and color
@@renlev15 No this definitely sounds better. Medieval style instruments are niche but have a decent following. There's lots of musicians for this styling, I see lots of them when going to SCA events.
Again, thank you all for this wonderful insight (or in-hearing??) of orchestral instruments in the past. All of the oboe related programs I have seen so far, model the softer, mellower sound quality, compared to some players of modern oboes. Personally, I always leaned toward that side of the modern instruments' capabilities, depending upon the music. Thank you.
2:08 I love parts being written based around the instrument's limitations/technicalities
Very nice introduction to the baroque oboe. I examined some baroque oboe fingering charts and noticed that the fingering is very similar to that of the baroque recorder.
I've just bought one, I can play well the recorder, I played also the clarinet for 7 years, and hated the keywork, so I always practiced the clarinet etudes on my alto recorder (with a few octave jumps). Finally, at 38, I've found a good sounding reed woodwind with recorder fingerings... Can anybody give some advice how to hit the second octave? There's no octave key or hole, and I (currently) cannot reach the notes above g"...
Beautiful sounding instrument. Very instructive input, especially your thoughts on the missing keys, thank you very much!
Beautiful instrument and informative video. One good thing about the baroque oboe is you don't hear that irritating key clacking.
Agreed!👍
ok, now I definitely want one, you really gor me at the musical advantages of the lack of keys
"wonderful inequality" 🥰
@@petatap The oboe considered as one of the hardest woodwinds to play. Because that fancy keywork...
@@thpeti :)
Thank you so much for this beautifully clear and eloquent enlightenment. I just inherited my father’s baroque oboe and you have given me my first lesson in what that actually means.
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment Those 3 keys are Left Hand D Sharp, Right Hand D sharp, & for both hands Middle C. The lowest note that this oboe can play is Middle C. Modern Oboes can go 2 more notes lower down to Low Bb, although they now make versions that can go another note Lower down to Low A and even more so to Low F (etc.).
I love the sound of this instrument! It's a pure baroque sound for me.
The Taille is basically an Alto version, the Oboe d'amore is the Mezzo-soprano version.
2:07 What happened was that as they added more keys, a lot of tone colors have been diminished which resulted in a fully equalized sound throughout every note, it's not really supposed to be a bad thing these days, and they even make Low A Oboes. Actually a lot of Modern Oboes aren't fully equalized on every note, they made each tone hole a different size to compensate for a lot of the tone colors that have diminished.
Lovely, I am not a musician but I am loving these videos. Fascinating.
Love what you are doing! So glad I've found your channel.
Baroque oboists were smart guys with tuners, so they could tune everywhere on 415 hz (from Paris to Leipzig to Venice). They stuck to their roots and if some instrument maker accidentally tried to fix a new key, p.e. to play C#', they would strap it immediately. At the arrival of Classical Oboe they would emigrate oversea, calling themselves Hobos now. Shouldn't we think about it???
"Baroque Oboema"
Lmao that was good
Michael Persico wtf
Lol
Thumbs up if you're watching in 1718!
Sorry fam, 1864, still good comment though :D
Sorry, I'm watching this in 1880, nice comment tho:)
Sorry lad, 69420, you have an okay comment 👌.
Thank you for pronouncing “Bach” correctly.
Some of my classmates pronounce it as"batch"
Jeremiah plays AAAHH, that’s painful
She pronounces the 'ch' correctly but she is using the typical southern English 'a' rather than a short German 'a'
I can't stand it when people pronounce "Bach" "correctly." It's like they're trying to pronounce it the German way instead of Anglicizing it or something. It sounds pretentious. Whenever someone tries to pronounce a sound that is not found in the language they are speaking at the moment, it sounds pretentious. That "ch" sound is not used in English, and English speakers attempting to pronounce it just butcher it and sound preposterous. Just say Baahk.
Watcher WLC idiot.
...the oboe accompaniment in the aria of Bach's Cantata #1 is exquisite. when performed on a baroque instrument.
great job explaining and playing this.
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment Some people like to play them in 440 if they're in a bigger area. 415 means that the instrument transposes down a half step from concert pitch.
Why people dislike this?? This Is amazing 😁
I understand why the baroque oboe is no more used in the modern orchestral music, which needs more homogeneous sound independent of the pitch or tonality. Thanks for the compact and understandable explanation.
Adding more keys helped improve intonation but it diminished a lot of tone colors. Some companies worked around this by making each tone hole a different size.
ie Stale bland music. Baroque forever!
The one thing she should have discussed was how the upper register is produced without any octave key/s. The Baroque Oboist apparently does it all on the reed itself. It's a real oversight that she didn't mention this.
Looking at the angle of her left index finger it seems like she's half-holing the first hole? the same way you would on a recorder. That seems to be the most obvious way of maintaining the upper register in lieu of an octave key.
@@elleboman8465 It may work, I've tried it, but on the official fingering charts, there's only one high note with a half hole #1...
Is this in the same key as the normal oboe?
It's in C, but a baroque C -- the A is 415 pitch, not 440, so it's about a semitone below modern instruments.
Thank you so much! So informative
Oh it has such a rich and beautiful sound…
Its always an intriguing one to think how far the instrument's sound influenced the compositions?
I believe the first excerpt she played was Brandenburg Concerto no. 1: Allegro II.
thank you, my sampled French Oboe sounds quite 'harsh'; I would have to apply a filter to emulate the softer sound to which you refer; but of course there is no way i can trills on a keyboard, sounds most peculiar.
I was wondering if there were a recorder-esque instrument with swappable components to mimic the sound of sax, oboe and recorder. I am a multi instrumentalist and composer but never put time into the winds and want to experiment with something more than synth and to practice the required embouchure/bugle etc. Thank you in advance.
Lovely video,🌹 great info👍
Where can we buy?
Did they have lathes back on the day?
Yes, treadle lathes which are operated by the foot moving a board up and down that causes a string to move up and down to cause the wood to be rotated at speed and allows the turning tool to cut the piece to the proper shape.
Boxwood is softer than Blackwood? If so, not by much, as Boxwood is also very very dense.
Was this what Haydn composed his concerto for? I suppose by that time there were more keys to it? Does anyone know of a recording of Haydn concerto on period instrument?
Wonderful!
Who made this instrument? And which maker is it copied after?
This video inspired me to start playing baroque oboe, which is enriching my life immessureble! Thank you very much!
(I am playing a copy after stanesby ,made by wolfgang kube in berlin,if youre wondering)
What is the opening excerp? Sounds like Bach? - I can't name it though!
The first three notes of the video sounded so much like a trumpet that I had to check to be sure I was watching the same video I clicked on.
Very interesting and educational..
nice information,
What is the piece that she's playing at the beginning?
Hi Muhammad, she is playing an excerpt from Bach's Brandenburg concerto no.1, 3rd movement.
Is this the same instrument as hautbois?
Hi +mechanussunrise, yes hautbois is french for oboe!
my oboe fell down and baroque
Suryan Isaac god damn it
All the baroquen hearted ...
You better take that bach
That's a shawm.
Fuque off
I personally loved Bach's BWV1060 the most.
Where can I get an oboe like that?
The oboe in the video was made by Paul Hailperin in Germany - if that helps!
Do you know if he is still producing? (Zell imm Wiesental) Or did he retire?
Is it just as effective against sleep apnea as a modern oboe?
is there a was to make these
Do I see a wax-filled hole above the first finger hole? I do like the mutual keys. My son is very left-handed, and retraining him to right for certain things...well, I don't like that. I went through that as a tot.
Renessiance and early baroque recorders have these wax-filled #7 holes. The player could set the instrument to left or right handed easily.
I Baroque mine when my doggo ate it
Why is James Dyson talking to me about an Oboe
They told me about an oboe... any kind... l would think of 1 guy..... i mean one genius, Tomaso giovani Albinoni...
She's talking like the queen
Introducing the baroque obama
NSU Lucas he made America baroque by many trillions of dollars.
@@FMIFestival take your nonsense to another video
Hi Ms.Borros
Sounds like a reed recorder.
just like the Philharmonia instrument videos
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Bach's Oboe
I love you
if we look bach (hahahah, very funny...), bach had a case with his sister. o_o
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It looks like a lamp. Like, the stick part of the lamp that holds the bulb.
Oboes developed keys latest. Recorders always get forgotten!! Haha. Still not really 'modernized' .
Baroque? Don't blame me, I didn't barake it.
I didn't know Ellen played the oboe
And you thought oboists were rare
For me sound less nasal. I like this instrument more than modern ones. But china oboes cost around $400 half of others. I am concern about chinese instruments they reputation: cheap and bad.
Yes they are very poor quality. But traditional Chinese instruments are beautiful
So many Bachophiles in these videos lol.
Modern musicians tend to be a twitchy, uninformed lot. Very few modern trumpet players know they're playing a long-model cornet, very few Horn players know that playing with the hand in the bell is an anachronistic affectation, very few string players have any experience playing on gut strings or know that pre-1830 violins had a shorter neck, or that older stringed instruments had up to 7 strings. Bach wrote for the 5-string viola and cello.
Old guns had some interesting characteristics too. For instance, you could add more or less powder, or use more than one musket ball at a time. That's how Wolf's men cut Montcalm's to pieces on the Plains of Abraham. History is chock-full of such interesting things.
Miserable Frasierung, Bloowing in a reed. You don,t know the morphologie of the Text. . L:Varcol
i thot she was a man
A baroque instrument doesn't sound. 😆
Wonderful!