LMAO true. Theres streamer Arty entertainment when the chat is TTS sperging and he's raging, but then there is genuinely interesting to listen to Arty, like his Artosis Casts channel, which I highly recommend for all if you want a pure starcraft cast/analysis experience without all the memeing.
Woah! What a sick name to see enjoying my video. LOVE you and your teams work Steve! Had no clue you were a StarCraft fan. Would love to hear about and share your SC experience 😋. I’m “starcrafthistorian” on discord if you want to connect! Cheers mate.
I will never forget the dichotomy of watching Tastosis casts, and then years later, after many many casts, watching an Arty stream I felt like I found a sibling soul, letting your passion for a hobby drive you mad to the point of absolute seething "THESE LINGS WOULDN'T BE IN MY BASE IF THOSE HADN'T GLITCHED ON THE FUCKIN BRIDGE.. AAARRGGHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" followed by "tHeY wOulDn'T hAvE gLiTcHeD fOr FlAsH" Skill. Honor. Hardwork. And a top tier entertainer while at it!
You found a sibling soul??buddy we are still men or be community started beeing woke!? This is really really homo and nerdy in the same time thats a very strange combo
This man and tasteless saved my life with their GSL broadcasts. Will always have love for them in my heart. Really beautiful to see Artosis talking openly about everything. It’s so sad to me the way SC2 and later Stormgate went. I’m happy broodwar is going strong and although we are in a RTS dark age currently, I hope in my lifetime I can see a golden era like 2009-2016 again.
Bro, that was a $h!t era. You needed to be born a long time ago to experience rts golden era. 90's early 2000's atleast. Sc2 at the early day was decent but went completely down hill. The last expansion units and changes were absolute garbage.
My brother was really good many many years ago until my parents broke the StarCraft cd in front of him for playing too much. He never played a single video game ever again after that
"Forced eSport" is honestly the biggest issue with games as sports in general, you don't get to simply decide something is going to be competitive on that level, you must foster an environment that allows it to happen and do your best not to get in the way. You can't make people interested in something against their will.
@onlyfrank yip. Just make a fun rts. Not everyone wants more esports and not everything works as one. Especially if the esports effects the game to much
Yes i always believed that you shouldnt force something to be an esport Its oke for a game to have a niche hardcore playerbase Its oke to support the competitive players but its important not to support them too much because you dont want the game to be an artificially inflated esport without the player passion to back it up
Great video! I was waiting for him to talk about the GOAT matter. I imagine he was kinda struggling with that subject during the latest world tournament, right?
Wow, 40 minutes went so fast. I can clearly see 20 years from now new generation of historians will go back and watch this one and talk about events and people we had.
Dan is such a chill dude. I really wish Microsoft gave a few shillings to the SC1 community so they could make it even spicier. But like he says, communities grow naturally stronger when they are run by members from within and get to be creative how they see fit. Microsoft would have to let the Korean SC1 scene or Arty and a crew be at the control panel
I’ve been playing brood war off and on since release. I had no idea people were still playing at the level and in the amount they are today until an artosis vid randomly popped up in my feed. Definitely one of my all time favorite games, and happy to see great matches still today!
You could easily interview him once a year to talk about different topics, or just give an update about Broodwar, and he would give an informed and interesting answer.
"i know whats happening here guys, zealots are pretty good." i felt that. i'm so glad arty is like me, i also recall that 60 minutes report on video games, and it impacted my life
These videos would be Great if they had cutscenes spliced into the video of what he was talking about. For a long form 40 minute interview it needs to be like that. Definitely would increase subscriptions and watch time
@@thecurbdog123 I think it's more of a generational thing than male or female. Gen Z and Gen Alpha have no attention span and require visual stimulation. I see your point on growing the channel and your suggestion would certainly help.
Congratulations on getting this interview with Arty ! Love him or hate him he's played a key role in growing Starcraft as an e-sport. Love his casts with Tasteless ! ❤
@@StarcraftHistorian I guess there must be, gaming audiences are wild 😁 specially for Starcraft ! He's definitely a reference on the scene. I like his takes on things.
I really like his realistic outlook on esports and esports coverage. It's just not always sustainable to have a huge show. I think what Valve used to do with the international where buying cosmetics was specifically tied to a prize pool made sense. That holds the community accountable for it too bc that's ultimately who it's for. It's not just goodwill from the publishers, that's not sustainable.
what valve does for dota is not replicable. value pays out of pocket big time to host that tourny and just to keep dota around. league is so much bigger then dota and i assume skin sales due to popular characters sell much more relatively then dota does. lol also paywalls champs. dota all champs are free from the start. yet even riot still struggles financially. truth is esports and gaming is general is very very hard to monetize after games all went free. value makes money as THE pc games market place and their insane fees. i bet cs2 doesnt even make money.
Great interview! We all know that INnoVation is the GOAT tho and it's not really close. Most consistent player in the most competitive era of SC2 history (when all the BW pros were playing) and long run of winning major tournaments over years and years. Rogue was barely an afterthought in that era and only rose to prominence later, and Maru/Serral significantly later.
Beyond All Reason is fairly successful for a game in open Alpha; really wish RT or Tasteless would give it a chance. It's pretty much all grass roots and sometimes the devs latch onto events that people put on to raise them higher in viewership. I wish we could see the revival of C&C, I loved watching pro C&C3 TW and KW.
I don't ever watch twitch, but, I can't disassociate myself from artosis and mario. Bowsers big castle... the brown brew... luigi... dark swarm; all lumped into one big stew
loved this. Thank you. RT honesty goes along way. I hate how ppl tippy toe around subjects and PRETEND to be something. ppl nowadays are delusional and dont look up KNOWN FACTS.
Even though I am the biggest admirer of Serral, because I think he plays Zerg as close to perfection as it gets. And he is not just like, I am simply more talented than others. No, Serral is fighting, and when he kills the hard opponents, he fights on 150%. I remember him looking so exhausted after a BO5 in grand finals or other hard opponents, that I was concerned about his wealth. I mean, am I the only one who sees that? Not even the commentators mention that. I knew he is going to be huge 7 years ago before he won a tourmy. I really admire him. BUT I have to say, that Artosis made a good point here. The GSL is the highest level of SC2 ever, and if the greatest players of the GSL getting older, like Maru, Rogue, Innovation and all the big names, that doesn't mean they are worse with what they have achieved in their prime, because they lose against Serral and Clem today. I don't know who is the GOAT, but, I love Serral's attitude the most, his will to win like no one else. His perfection.
Sometimes a sport gaines a genius that everyone hears of even those who dont follow the sport like Mike Tyson, Tiger woods etc. For starcraft it was definitly SlayerS_'BoxeR for us pre broadband generation.
Haven't watched the entire video yet, but on the topic of why esports are so volatile - regular physical sports can be blown up and built an ecosystem/for profit business around because no one owns the IP of basketball, or football, etc. Esports on the other hand are very problematic because somebody else owns the IP you are trying to capitalize on. For a game to become a staple and commercialized esport it needs true support from the originator of the IP, because other people don't want to touch it really due to the legal ownership of the IP. Either that or the game needs to be public domain. Blizzard has mishandled StarCraft esports because they weren't getting the cut of the pie they thought they should have, because they made the game and felt entitled. Why cant we have nice things? Corporate greed, somebody somewhere isn't making enough money from it. Sigh...
I worked at a LAN cafe around 2006 and Blizzard was just as greedy back then. The owner wanted to host some WC3 tournaments and asked Blizzard for permission. Blizzard told us that we would have to pay royalties and liscensing fees to even have BNET games installed on our computers, and then another fee to host the tournament. We said screw Blizzard after that and kept their games on our PCs anyway. It wasn't even a big place either, there would been like 14 entrants at best and we only asked because we thought it would have been cool if our favorite game company gave us their approval to play our favorite game
I think they have to change the business model for making video games for SC3. The need to stop paying coders for bad ideas. The Ideas should be judged on merit. And they should make it over a long period of time, so that is based on good ideas. And they should do a development program put into SC2, so people can make their own unit. And if it ends up in the game, then they get a royalty. And the data for the game can be collected over a long period of time. The old business model for creating games comes with an astronomical amount of risk for a third installment of StarCraft. It needs changing.
I know this will come off rude but why is there so much background noise? No way to do the interview in a quiet room? Time restraints? As in this location is the only possible time to do it, as you guys were all leaving soon?
Wow if everything wrong leads to over a decade of a game being played a t a high level alongside another version of the same game... I wonder what doing things right looks like!
I always love how well-spoken and passionate arty is about starcraft, and it's refreshing to listen to him without mario erotica text to speech
LMAO true. Theres streamer Arty entertainment when the chat is TTS sperging and he's raging, but then there is genuinely interesting to listen to Arty, like his Artosis Casts channel, which I highly recommend for all if you want a pure starcraft cast/analysis experience without all the memeing.
Let’s be honest, my channel could use more Mario erotica
@@StarcraftHistorian it was a Shapiro only night...
@@StarcraftHistorian Mario violently fucked peach's left...............
@@ocircles738 Oh God B- Ben!
Great interview. Love the stuff Artosis puts out and have had many of the same questions!
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world. GN is here, of all places; you're past the point of needing nerd-cred, Steve!
Hey Steve :)
Woah! What a sick name to see enjoying my video. LOVE you and your teams work Steve! Had no clue you were a StarCraft fan. Would love to hear about and share your SC experience 😋. I’m “starcrafthistorian” on discord if you want to connect! Cheers mate.
@@StarcraftHistorianBig time SC fan! I haven't played in years but watch every GSL and ASL/SSL. I'll message sometime!
All the best people are StarCraft people. Love what you do
Chills from the first 40 seconds of the video
😂
THE SICKEST NERD CHILLS tAsTeLeSs!
I will never forget the dichotomy of watching Tastosis casts, and then years later, after many many casts, watching an Arty stream
I felt like I found a sibling soul, letting your passion for a hobby drive you mad to the point of absolute seething
"THESE LINGS WOULDN'T BE IN MY BASE IF THOSE HADN'T GLITCHED ON THE FUCKIN BRIDGE.. AAARRGGHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
followed by
"tHeY wOulDn'T hAvE gLiTcHeD fOr FlAsH"
Skill. Honor. Hardwork. And a top tier entertainer while at it!
You found a sibling soul??buddy we are still men or be community started beeing woke!? This is really really homo and nerdy in the same time thats a very strange combo
"I have multiple games I like, SC1 and SC2." 😂😂😂
This man and tasteless saved my life with their GSL broadcasts. Will always have love for them in my heart. Really beautiful to see Artosis talking openly about everything. It’s so sad to me the way SC2 and later Stormgate went. I’m happy broodwar is going strong and although we are in a RTS dark age currently, I hope in my lifetime I can see a golden era like 2009-2016 again.
Grubby has been on a tear with content, if you're looking for more of that kind of stuff. His second channel talks is really fun too
Sc2 is great imo
Bro, that was a $h!t era. You needed to be born a long time ago to experience rts golden era. 90's early 2000's atleast.
Sc2 at the early day was decent but went completely down hill. The last expansion units and changes were absolute garbage.
W u7 is I s@Sapreme
@@Midgar88Lol timegatekeeping an opinion is gay
Artosis’ theory on divorced parents correlating to gamer skills is kinda crazy lmao
Feels reasonable though, having completely unrestricted access to games is certainly a leg up over a strict household.
My brother was really good many many years ago until my parents broke the StarCraft cd in front of him for playing too much. He never played a single video game ever again after that
@@AdorableOdyssey could've been boxer 2.0 in an alternate timeline
@@AdorableOdyssey my mom broke my cd too lmao. bought me a new one the next week :p
I thought this was an old video. Really great job as always, love you and always love hearing Arty talk.
@@FilippoSciarraViolin love you too man, thanks for being here!
Goat convo includes influence. Flash influences sc1 meta far more than any other player by a long shot.
Solid point imo!
Right on, loved this interview. Thanks Artosis for all your contributions to StarCraft over the years.
Isn’t Dan the greatest!?!
"Forced eSport" is honestly the biggest issue with games as sports in general, you don't get to simply decide something is going to be competitive on that level, you must foster an environment that allows it to happen and do your best not to get in the way. You can't make people interested in something against their will.
Stormgate is the perfect example.
@onlyfrank yip. Just make a fun rts. Not everyone wants more esports and not everything works as one. Especially if the esports effects the game to much
Yes i always believed that you shouldnt force something to be an esport
Its oke for a game to have a niche hardcore playerbase
Its oke to support the competitive players but its important not to support them too much because you dont want the game to be an artificially inflated esport without the player passion to back it up
They do it with rap
So true
One fact that is not in contention is that Artosis is the GOAT of casters!
Thanks for doing these, what a treat!
Thanks for watching them! Without fans like you I would never have the motivation to get them done.
Great video! I was waiting for him to talk about the GOAT matter. I imagine he was kinda struggling with that subject during the latest world tournament, right?
Wow, 40 minutes went so fast.
I can clearly see 20 years from now new generation of historians will go back and watch this one and talk about events and people we had.
This is such a lovely compliment, thank you!
Excellent interview! Great job creating a comfortable relaxed environment for this absolute legend of esports to express himself.
Amazing. Thanks for this! Crazy you actually got to interview artosis! 🎉
Definitely an honor
Dan is such a chill dude. I really wish Microsoft gave a few shillings to the SC1 community so they could make it even spicier. But like he says, communities grow naturally stronger when they are run by members from within and get to be creative how they see fit. Microsoft would have to let the Korean SC1 scene or Arty and a crew be at the control panel
guy is a fucking character, love him or hate him
No doubt!
Great interview. Got a few chills
I’m curious, what exactly was chill inducing for you? Cheers mate!
@@StarcraftHistorian thoughtful questions and insightful answers.
Been seeing "chills" a lot lately, like meme levels a lot. Must have missed something.
@@fredhurst2528 honestly same lolol
@@fredhurst2528 it’s just something artosis says alot in his brood war casts
Would love more interviews with him, longer ones too. Absolute legend.
Lovely work! Thank you for putting this together, and I hope you can make it out to more of the LANs in the future!
wow didn't expect to have Donut/One Take/automotive journalism to be referenced in my StarCraft interview. Cheers guys
I remember this interview I was there at the lan. Very cool set up!
Hope you’re doing well pal!
I’ve been playing brood war off and on since release. I had no idea people were still playing at the level and in the amount they are today until an artosis vid randomly popped up in my feed. Definitely one of my all time favorite games, and happy to see great matches still today!
So neat that you’ve been re-exposed to the community! Welcome back friend 😊
Artosis and Tasteless still cast the SSL/ASL over on the AfreecaTV youtube channel! Amazing tournament. 18th season currently running.
@@Cernunn0s90 That’s awesome! I’ve been watching them this past week. My kind of nerds!
Aha I was at that event! Great interview as always, love hearing from our boy arty :D
Good interview. Always interesting hearing interviews and not just hearing ppl talk as a caster.
You could easily interview him once a year to talk about different topics, or just give an update about Broodwar, and he would give an informed and interesting answer.
Loved the interview. Thanks so much!
Lovely watch! Thanks you for making this!
GET DAY9! you got his brother and mom!
Oh I’ll make it happen, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but I’ll get there
@@StarcraftHistorian ohhhhh!!!!!
I do love me some Artosis. Great video! Also great event this was recorded at ;D
Appreciate you ya Oklahoma ass nerd
Awesome interview! Thanks!
Didn't serral get wiped by a Terran in a grand finals last month or so I remember watching on winter starcraft
Yessir, the yung Clemperor took him out at EWC and became the World Champion!
"i know whats happening here guys, zealots are pretty good." i felt that. i'm so glad arty is like me, i also recall that 60 minutes report on video games, and it impacted my life
Would you have a link to the video arty mentioned?
These videos would be Great if they had cutscenes spliced into the video of what he was talking about. For a long form 40 minute interview it needs to be like that. Definitely would increase subscriptions and watch time
Honestly such a good idea and something I’ve thought about. I think I may create a clips channel for this sort of thing!
The interview stands on its own. Less is more in this case.
@@StarcraftHistorian just thought it might help the channel grow. The vast majority of TH-cam is male. Males tend to be more visually oriented. 🤷
@@thecurbdog123 I think it's more of a generational thing than male or female. Gen Z and Gen Alpha have no attention span and require visual stimulation. I see your point on growing the channel and your suggestion would certainly help.
Great interview ❤
Damn, it would be interesting to see growth/evolution of builds over the decades.
That's very based of Arty to just want to be a good dad. What a king.
So wholesome
Great interview, Arty is always great to listen to. Can you please do it in a quiet room next time?
Thanks for making this!
Flash is like if you take the highest peak player and combined it with highest longevity player of most other sports. He is an absolute legend.
Artosis is a legend. The answer about what he wants to remembered for was great.
Congratulations on getting this interview with Arty ! Love him or hate him he's played a key role in growing Starcraft as an e-sport. Love his casts with Tasteless ! ❤
Are there people who hate him???
@@StarcraftHistorian I guess there must be, gaming audiences are wild 😁 specially for Starcraft ! He's definitely a reference on the scene. I like his takes on things.
Quality!
Great interview, thanks!
Can confirm. Played a ton of games in Kansas.
❤Artosis. Long live starcraft. and all the starcraft memories that Dan and Nick brought us.
I love how Broodwar has evolved through the years as well as how Arty entertains us.
i really like his closing words, i think being a good parent is really the most important thing in this world
You are the GOAT of Starcraft history channels
Good thing the brood war GOAT discussion is one word long.
I really like his realistic outlook on esports and esports coverage. It's just not always sustainable to have a huge show. I think what Valve used to do with the international where buying cosmetics was specifically tied to a prize pool made sense. That holds the community accountable for it too bc that's ultimately who it's for. It's not just goodwill from the publishers, that's not sustainable.
what valve does for dota is not replicable. value pays out of pocket big time to host that tourny and just to keep dota around.
league is so much bigger then dota and i assume skin sales due to popular characters sell much more relatively then dota does. lol also paywalls champs. dota all champs are free from the start. yet even riot still struggles financially. truth is esports and gaming is general is very very hard to monetize after games all went free. value makes money as THE pc games market place and their insane fees. i bet cs2 doesnt even make money.
Awesome, good work
Tyty 😊
"freak trampoline accident", band name
Lmao
Loved watching this interview as I sit here drinking a cup of Brown Brew. There was only one problem...
Chills!!
I'm glad Artosis is liking Canada, I'm hoping I'll run into him one day at some event lol
Artosis is such a cool guy! Best wishes from your watcher from Russia!
Great interview! We all know that INnoVation is the GOAT tho and it's not really close. Most consistent player in the most competitive era of SC2 history (when all the BW pros were playing) and long run of winning major tournaments over years and years. Rogue was barely an afterthought in that era and only rose to prominence later, and Maru/Serral significantly later.
Very good questions.
dog making that comparison to the automotive exodus was lit
Skill. Honor. Hard work. Rage. Chills. ❤
This video is heavy in youtube ads
RT might end up being a GOAT in his own way.
9:10 Imagine going to an Olympic swimmer and saying "you have a swimming addiction" lol
Thank you
I so want a AAA Dawn of War IV RTS
Is that artosis on the thumbnail ? or is it NoRegret ?
If tournament success alone is the definition of GOAT, then wouldn't that make the GOAT of Counterstrike Device rather than Simple?
Beyond All Reason is fairly successful for a game in open Alpha; really wish RT or Tasteless would give it a chance. It's pretty much all grass roots and sometimes the devs latch onto events that people put on to raise them higher in viewership.
I wish we could see the revival of C&C, I loved watching pro C&C3 TW and KW.
starcraft wouldn't be the same without Artosis
Great work.
I don't ever watch twitch, but, I can't disassociate myself from artosis and mario. Bowsers big castle... the brown brew... luigi... dark swarm; all lumped into one big stew
I love watching Dan freak out about dark swarm. IT JUST DOESN’T END! 😆😆😆
Who is the GOAT? Artosis is THE GOAT. Angry on streams, but really a beautiful person in life
Watching my daily Artosiscast after this
loved this. Thank you. RT honesty goes along way. I hate how ppl tippy toe around subjects and PRETEND to be something. ppl nowadays are delusional and dont look up KNOWN FACTS.
This was a great video
Even though I am the biggest admirer of Serral, because I think he plays Zerg as close to perfection as it gets. And he is not just like, I am simply more talented than others. No, Serral is fighting, and when he kills the hard opponents, he fights on 150%. I remember him looking so exhausted after a BO5 in grand finals or other hard opponents, that I was concerned about his wealth. I mean, am I the only one who sees that? Not even the commentators mention that. I knew he is going to be huge 7 years ago before he won a tourmy. I really admire him.
BUT
I have to say, that Artosis made a good point here. The GSL is the highest level of SC2 ever, and if the greatest players of the GSL getting older, like Maru, Rogue, Innovation and all the big names, that doesn't mean they are worse with what they have achieved in their prime, because they lose against Serral and Clem today. I don't know who is the GOAT, but, I love Serral's attitude the most, his will to win like no one else. His perfection.
Artosis watching SpaceJam: Why the F are you recruiting MJ when Rogue is out there??? Your freedom is on the line!!!
Sometimes a sport gaines a genius that everyone hears of even those who dont follow the sport like Mike Tyson, Tiger woods etc. For starcraft it was definitly SlayerS_'BoxeR for us pre broadband generation.
Grrrr. That’s a name I haven’t heard for a long time.
we all know that the goat is artosis himself
but maybe the real goat is the friends we made along the way
"what do you want to be remembered for?" Mario Erotica
"HE'SSOFUCKINGBAD"
Simple. Artosis is the GOAT
Flash mentioned CHILLS!
is there a flash vs faker debate? whats that discourse like?
now i am imagining Artosis 70 yo and still playing starcraft
To me it looks like Stormgate is a downgrade from SC2 even though the game is brand new. Can anyone explain what Stormgate does better than SC2 ?
cantidad esquizeadas de parte de rt, aunque lo entiendo yo tambien intentaria garrapiñar un poco.
I know who artosis is because he is so good at StarCraft. That’s awesome
Haven't watched the entire video yet, but on the topic of why esports are so volatile - regular physical sports can be blown up and built an ecosystem/for profit business around because no one owns the IP of basketball, or football, etc. Esports on the other hand are very problematic because somebody else owns the IP you are trying to capitalize on. For a game to become a staple and commercialized esport it needs true support from the originator of the IP, because other people don't want to touch it really due to the legal ownership of the IP. Either that or the game needs to be public domain.
Blizzard has mishandled StarCraft esports because they weren't getting the cut of the pie they thought they should have, because they made the game and felt entitled. Why cant we have nice things? Corporate greed, somebody somewhere isn't making enough money from it. Sigh...
I worked at a LAN cafe around 2006 and Blizzard was just as greedy back then. The owner wanted to host some WC3 tournaments and asked Blizzard for permission. Blizzard told us that we would have to pay royalties and liscensing fees to even have BNET games installed on our computers, and then another fee to host the tournament. We said screw Blizzard after that and kept their games on our PCs anyway. It wasn't even a big place either, there would been like 14 entrants at best and we only asked because we thought it would have been cool if our favorite game company gave us their approval to play our favorite game
one thing for sure, if Reynor was in Serral’s shoes he’d be telling EVERYONE how he’s Da GOAT 😂
I think they have to change the business model for making video games for SC3. The need to stop paying coders for bad ideas. The Ideas should be judged on merit. And they should make it over a long period of time, so that is based on good ideas. And they should do a development program put into SC2, so people can make their own unit. And if it ends up in the game, then they get a royalty. And the data for the game can be collected over a long period of time.
The old business model for creating games comes with an astronomical amount of risk for a third installment of StarCraft. It needs changing.
Love arty, and you already did tasteless but can we still get a tastosis one?
I know this will come off rude but why is there so much background noise? No way to do the interview in a quiet room? Time restraints? As in this location is the only possible time to do it, as you guys were all leaving soon?
I love me some tosis'.
Artosis is GOAT
CHILLS
Wow if everything wrong leads to over a decade of a game being played a t a high level alongside another version of the same game... I wonder what doing things right looks like!
I know for 100% fact that arty is the highest paid A rank Terran in the world.