The Gamecube Just Got A NEW Modchip | The kunaiGC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- KunaiGC Modchip For The Nintendo Gamecube Has Some Tricks
Not long after the launch of PicoBoot, we have a new modchip for the Nintendo Gamecube. The KunaiGC from ManCloud is a purpose built device that brings some new tricks to the GameCube! With the Gamecube modding scene rapidly advancing, how does the KunaiGC fit into it all? Let’s find out!
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Pretty cool development to see, I like the simplicity of the QSB, made be ask "That's it?" when I saw it installed in. Although indeed it would probably be nice if it was a bit thinner for ease of install, like you touched up on.
I considered making it thinner but then the KunaiGC itself interferes with the pins of the SP1, as you loose height in your overall setup. That's why I decided (for now) to stick with this height. I tested 0.8mm board (actual is 1.2mm) and it resulted in the KunaiGC board being slightly angled and having contact to the underlying pins
I think similarly because of the size of the ViperGC. This is a much more viable solution than the picoboot and other IPL solutions. Love it.
@@mancloud19 keep up the great work my dude
It looks like the QSB replaces, what, 6 solder points, with no other electronics on board? Wouldn't it be just as easy to solder 6 wires from the Game Cube motherboard to the mod chip? Is the QSB even needed?
@@user-lc5xp5xd2i Not necessarily. You can leave it away and use wires if you wish ^^ it's just so you don't need to look up wirings etc and keep it simple
I'm curious about the price, but I'm just not seeing the reason why this would be better than a $4 PicoBoot setup. Yeah it's got Swiss onboard, but we're going to be using an SD card anyway that can have Swiss on it. I like that there's no wires, but with the more difficult soldering that seems to be a wash. Is there some kind of functionality that the KunaiGC can offer that the PicoBoot cannot?
My first thought…
It already doesn’t offer much that Picoboot can’t do, so the price really has to be competitive. The lack of wires is great, as that seems to be the main struggle for a lot of picoboot installs. However, the board is thick and I feel like more people may struggle with bridging the pins accidentally. Just my thought though.
It’s great that we are getting more options. I just hope this is competitively priced.
Same. I don't really see the big deal about having onboard memory. It doesn't make it look any cleaner because the SD adapter is already hidden in the bottom expansion port. The end result is the same. Push power button, end up on at Swiss. The trick of changing the boot-up logo is neat, but I mean you won't even see that if you're holding start to end up at Swiss. So what's the point?
Where can I get a modbo?
Removing that QSB for repairs or reversing the mod also looks like a pain compared to a flex ribbon or plain wires. I feel like you’d need to use a hot air station to get it off, which most people don’t have and even less people have experience with. Picoboot seems much easier in that aspect
@@ArcanineluvsU Picoboot has a QSB anyways and that one is easier to install.
been a rough week for me personally and this entire video scratched my nerd itch and really helped my mood, thanks man
Good stuff. Great editing and photography as always. Very clear presentation. You really deliver top tier content and at a rate and consistency unparalleled.
I think it's cool, but a pi pico is going to be cheaper and more versatile in my personal opinion. Even if we don't know the exact price, there's no beating 5 bucks
What if this was $300 but they threw in a woman?
I'd be up for it if she looked halfway decent and a powerful suction technique.
No proprietary components from the developer, just a off the shelf raspberry pico
@@AddableStone13 LEt us know how it is going - since it would be so simple.
Agreed! There's no way it will be cheaper than a pi pico and at least as of right now it doesn't have any advantage over picoboot as far as features. If saves can be stored to it in the future that would be cool but then again i wont be able to use my saves elsewhere if i use a different console at someone else's house for example. Memory cards are not that hard to find and the quality of 3rd party ones has come up a lot. If this would have come out before picoboot it would have been a hit but picoboot is just too strong at the moment and readily available now. If maybe pico's stock starts to dwindle and they get harder or hyper-inflated by scalpers... ok this would be the easy choice but just because something COULD happen, doesn't really justify it being usefull right now.
The other thing that bothers me is availability for the kunaiGC. Sounds like it's exclusively being sold on consoles4you at least at launch (whenever that'll be). They are based out of Switzerland so for us on this side of the ocean in North America, that's going to mean longer delivery times, customs fees, brokerage fees... again, not ideal. It's great to see another player in the mod chip game for our beloved GC's but I'm like most of the comments on here where I'll be passing unless there's some game-changer feature or killer app that is only available on the kunaiGC. Props to @ManCloud for an alternative. I'm sure europeans will snap them up once released but until you at the very least get a NA distributor, stock levels that don't require a waiting list and a features list that are compelling enough I'm sorry to say me and many many other GC modders will be sticking with our picoboots. Looking forward to be proved wrong in the future however.
@@mohawkmikeandfriends2257 Raspberry has committed to producing or at least supporting pico models until 2028, or could be extended at an unknown time.
I love being early to these videos.
I might be missing something here, but I don't see the benefit of this chip over Pico Boot . As of now Pico is cost efficient, easy to instal with just 5 wires and super customizable. This feels like the same but tackier and with a few extra bells and whistles that ultimately won't ever be used more than once or twice (and we don't even know the final price yet) and the internal memory card is already a thing with the latest versions of Swiss with "Memory Card Emulation".
Pretty neat, but unnecesary imo. They came to the game a little too late with the PicoBoot being an option now.
Glad it's not just me who thinks that. I don't see how this is any better than the picoboot. Also I'm not sure if this allows you to update swiss if you need to
I'm with the both of you on this as well as any other pico boot mentioners
@@darknigh71 it's likely there will be. After all they mentioned that they're in production. It would be a shame of they released it without the ability to update it somehow. But yeah, usually this kind of thing excites me but this one was a total miss for me
wires look nerve wrecking, i rather go with kunai.
@@Ehren1337 and I agree with you 100% on that. Just placing and soldering is thousands of times better but then again even Nacho had some trouble with the thickness of chip. It's definitely a strong point in its favor but then again, I'm not really sold on it yet.
Maybe in the future, we'll see but right now Pico is the way to go for me
Just got mine ordered, thanks for the installation tutorial!
that intro with the consoles and music is awesome! great channel
Best intro music on YT, period. Love your editing as well, Tito!
Tito, i love your videos man, I watch em all . Honestly you've taught me so much and I've used your guides to successfully mod consoles. And I never would've even attempted soldering if you didn't explain it so well, all while making it look so easy. And those production qualities. But you do have the personality of an Olympic swimming pool. In like, an endearing way.
Considering the amount of free memory space in the GameCube's address map, I suspect that flash chip could be made much larger in future versions. They may want to actually socket it with a type that could be substituted with larger models in later versions.
nothing brings me the same kinda joy and clamness that this channel gives me.
W Channel dude u rock!
Another great video Tito! I like this new video presentation layout, the shelving behind looks very nice
Thanks Andrew!
I love the high quality that you put into your videos, keep it up
Thank you!
Man the scene really is on a roll at the moment with the GC, it feels only like a few weeks ago we saw the internal bt module for controllers and that blowing peoples minds. Not only that, but the rise of custom ribbons and installation pcbs really is bringing these mods into the hands of the less skilled! Thanks again Tito for yet another top tier video; your consistency in delivery, quality and content is always appreciated!
Can't wait to see this one available!
Yet another banger! Keep up the good work Tito!
I love how it can bring new features to the table, added customization and hotkey bootup. The only thing Im waiting for is a wifi module or an aftermarket lan adapter as there getting more and more rare to find for a good price. Let us know if you find anything Tito
It seems to be a neat simple-to-install modchip. Nice to have options!
This being said you kept mentionning the internal memory will be in the future able to create virtual memory card, which sure is neat but kind of redundant with Swiss itself that can do that with any kind of storage attached
Not redundant at all. Swiss' memory card emulation cannot use a storage device that's being used to load games (and the last time I checked, there couldn't even be any game ISOs stored on it). So, to use Swiss to load games from an SD card adapter and utilize the memory card emulation, you would need two SD cards and the adapters to use them. Not terrible, or even all that expensive, but having a device with basically a built in memory card is great.
@@davidcameron648 i've absolutely saved games on the same sd i load games from.
@@davidcameron648 what abooouut if I’m grinding chao garden and trading chaos? It needs two memory cards :o
@@davidcameron648 then idk how my GC Loader is working. It's running SWISS, has a single SDcard that I load games from and have emulated memory cards on.
@@davidcameron648 As far as I can tell, this isn't true. I only have one storage on my GC which is an SD card, no memory cards, and it saves and loads just fine using Swiss.
having swiss directly on it is a nice idea but could present a problem when it comes to updating swiss until an option is added for that, using something like iplboot where it runs swiss from micro sd makes it so much easier to update swiss given how often it's updated.
i would also love to see an option where you can set the startup so it's the opposite, as in you hold start to get to the gamecube bios and if you don't hold start it boots to swiss because 99% of the time i would want the console to boot into swiss and i would very rarely want to get to the gamecube bios and wouldn't want to have to hold start each time.
Theres always fascinating heads-up from tito 👍
Awesome video as always Tito!
I am prepared to be amazed! 😄
another great video Tito! thank you!
I have been playing with FPGA's since few years (almost 10) for my personal projects and I have the feeling they have became pretty popular in the last few years (probably due to price drop and higher availability)
Great that we're seeing a lot more options for the Gamecube
I would hope they make enough money to stay afloat from 9/10 people using the option of buying a Pico off of AE
That's pretty cool. The GameCube is getting more mods lately
The last few years have been a great time to be a GameCube owner. It was about time, right?
Really incredible when you also consider that up until a few years ago, any time someone suggested the need for a modern ODE or video mods, the cranks would come out of the woodwork to tell you there's no need to bother with the GC since you could "just use a Wii."
Turns out there is a market for these products, someone just had to take the leap of faith to prove it. I think major credit is due to Black Dog Tech for commercializing GCVideo with the GCDual and bringing Daniel Kraak's GCLoader to the masses. Since then, it feels like the flood gates have been opened up for other new products and projects to thrive.
Meh. I like mine stock. No mods.
@@kr4t0sg.28 have fun. im going to mod mine with this. youre just scared to touch it. good luck with space and physical games.
@@Ehren1337 no I'm not afraid, far from it. I have 7 Years of modding experience under my belt. I just like my gamecube bone stock that's all.
@@kr4t0sg.28 im the same way. I love that theres mods out there but the GC specifically has always been my “mod-free” console even tho i own more than one. Its probably nostalgia for me
Your intro is one of the best I’ve seen on TH-cam!!
Great stuff. Thanks tito.
awesome job as always Tito !
yo Gusse! you are a legend!
I guess i'm waiting on a flexboard to develop with this modchip. This video also addressed a question i had about picoboot. (modifying the boot process rather than being an alternative boot.)
This looks so cool. Like a mod I feel confident installing myself 😮
troubleshooting soldering on this would be much more difficult than wires with a Pico
A quick solder flex cable from Helder Game Tech makes install pretty easy with a Picoboot if you like the idea of the solder board on this!
@@rainbowdooche6957 BWAHAHA false. i rather do this than doing wires. go see the doctor.
It almost looks like some kind of clamp could be fashioned that connects to the chip without soldering. I realize that could increase the cost, but a no-solder option for something like this would be great.
New subscriber! Would love to see some more Wii mods, HDMI mods are the coolest!
Good thing a brand new Wii HDMI mod is releasing very soon.
Dang friend, you are on a roll!
these videos get me so excited to mod
Great StezStix Fix style finger click!
What a gorgeous wavebird you have. Minty fresh
Outstanding stuff!!
those copper burs on the IPL pcb are due to the method used to create castellated edges. often you can opt for the cheaper method where they use vias and route though them, to get real castellated edged on a pcb will bring the production cost up considerably,
you can easily see the difference f you compare to say the pi pico's pcb as it has proper castellated edges....
your mods are always fascinating, especially if you only come from the emulator corner
Pico boot in this case will be a much better purchase , although it says the new mod chip has Swiss intergraded you still will need some type of gecko or spd2 adapter to load games and pico also allows for cube boot to have your own custom logo.
This is not true. You can also boot games via burned dvds or via the broadband adapter. I use burned dvds myself, I love optical media. I will get the kunaigc soon. :)
I actually don't like that it comes pre-installed with Swiss, primarily because that looks to mean updating would be more cumbersome. Plus, if the chip dies, you have to install a whole new pcb instead of just replacing an SD card.
Man, I click faster than the speed of light. Hahaha... Awesome as awlawys Tito. I installed the Picoboot on my GC DOL 101 and works amazing. This one I don't know if I takle it when I get a DOL 001. The part of soldering the chip legs is always a pain for me to do and end up with bridges. :( But its amazing the potential this new chip has. Looking for more of it in the future. :)
This looks amazing. I can’t wait to get try installing one. Thanks for sharing. Also, how are you connecting your Gamecube to your monitor?
if you're newer to soldering please start with the Pico first
@@rainbowdooche6957 nah im doing kunai first.
@@Ehren1337 good luck lol
@@Pickelhaube808 yup will have better luck than pico with wires.
Your videos would look so sick in 4k. How come you don't record/render/upload them in 4k? Great video by the way!
I love how much love is still put into preserving the GameCube. I want to see what this chip allows in the future, before I would consider installing it, especially sense I already have a nice set up for one of mine at the moment. But if I can make one of my other GC's work better with something like this, than I think this might be doable for me.
feature wise this does nothing more than a Pico lol
@@rainbowdooche6957 It's like you didn't watch the video or read a single word I said.
really depends on the price and what features get added cus its hard to beat 4-8 bucks for a pico chip that will basically do what you need.
I love your mods. I have a Game Cube and i want another for restore and mod!!
Great, dude!
That intro was fire 🔥
This channel has become appointment TV for me
This seems like an awesome way to allow multiple people to have their own save files of a game for games where you only get one save file, or so you can play more than one save file at a time such as when you have to pick a character class.
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Awesome! I’ll stick with an SD Media Launcher and SD2SP2, since I’m very bad at soldering.
If I ever get a GameCube, I might consider getting this modchip!
I don't personally think the thickness of the QSB is an issue. It leaves some room for error. Flex cables would be far less forgiving and are easier to damage with the soldering iron during installation. My negative is that this doesn't have to be two separate boards. It can be done with just one eliminating the need for two separate parts.
All that being said, this easily one of the simplest mods I've observed. It can be accomplished with amateur-level soldering skill -- mainly because of the QSB's thickness.
Only thing left is price. If it comes in under $100USD, this will be a nearly perfect mod.
Great vid with pros/cons review.
There's nothing that convinces me this is better or even as good as picoboot. I'm going to have an SD card installed anyway because my games have to live somewhere, so it really doesn't matter that this has onboard memory. Picoboot is cheap and easy and the end result is still that you turn on the gamecube and end up in Swiss.
I can only dream of having that level of soldering neatness.
You won't want to use that chip for saving game data or writing to it a lot. Ideally you'll just leave it as written that one time and leave it as a read only chip as writing to those a bunch can make them act wonky.
Fine soldering job. What your iron temps at, usually?
Because of you I have modded 2 gbcs 2 gbas and my gc
I cant wait to see where this goes in the future.
Hey, love your content and was wondering if we could get a behind the scenes on how you shoot those intro sequences someday, they are simply stunning!
Definitely prefer the hold a button to boot Swiss as sometimes I just wanna boot normally
I'm assuming it does but gonna ask just in case does this bypass the region lock?
Another awesome video! I'm glad there's a lot of different options for stuff like this and the Retro scene.
If I had to guess price, it's going to be somewhere around $100.
I can definitely say: no 😅 but it will definitely be a little more expensive than the Picoboot. For sure: were not using premade hardware but have to make it ourselves 😁
@@mancloud19 Ok then 180 ish lol.
@@Jokerwolf666 prolly not wrong lmao
Glad you enjoyed the video! Should be much less than that when it becomes available
The "built-in Swiss" feature is actually not that great of a "pro" for the modchip. In fact, Swiss gets updated regularly enough that you would want a new version on your SD card, which you have to set up anyway since the on-board memory is obviously not anywhere large enough to hold even a single game. It's literally saving us from a drag-and-drop action from the Swiss release zip file onto the SD card, (possibly) followed by renaming it. Picoboot (PB) does all that KunaiGC (KGC) does already. If one uses PB and does not want Swiss to auto-load like KGC, just assign it to a button. PB also supports custom boot logos via flippyboot (basically chainloading bootloaders). Does KGC require Swiss to be installed onto the onboard memory (huge "con" if so)? Or will KGC auto-load newer versions of Swiss on the SD card? (PB just requires Swiss to be named IPL.DOL or some other relevant "button-name" DOL file). The only "pro" I see for now is that the QSB is nicely made (but I do worry about bridging neighboring connections due to the copper edges that you pointed out). Hopefully the onboard memory capabilities will be a big surprise with future updates.
I saw your video on the PS2 mini, have you considered trying portablizing? I’d love to see a video of yours on a Wii or Ps2 portable
It's crazy how far we have come to not even needing gcloader anymore.
I literally just put two picoboots in my basket from Aliexpress when I tabbed out to youtube and saw this! It seems great, but I cant really imagine that its going to cost anything near the picoboot which makes it a hard sale. I have two picoboots in my basket totalling only £8. It is perhaps good for those who really want to keep the intro, but I could really see that being something solvable in the future on the picoboot. I don't see the 16mb of non removable storage being that beneficial for that many people, especially when we have sd2sp2 to free up both slots, as well as SD Gecko allowing for ridiculous capacitiies.
Im excited to see what the future will bring for the Gamecube!
Cubeboot let's you keep the original GC intro with a picoboot! I have it installed on mine, works great.
I’ll never get tired of new methods to mod a GC.
there's really nothing all too new about this feature wise besides the QSB
This is the very first time I have been disappointed by a lack of Kapton tape in your video. Though that is just a minor gripe, otherwise, fantastic as always.
Our beloved Cube is more alive than ever!
It is indeed!
I can always appreciate a mod with a cool name.
I've got a GCLoader in my GameCube but always like to see new mods for the GC
Great video, once again. I always enjoy your mods, even though I don't do everyone myself :)
WOuld you be so kind to do one on the Wii AVE-HDMI by Electron Shepherd? Voultar did a mod vid on it but he is not very up to par these days...
Con: how the heck do you update Swiss that is preloaded onboard? Why was this not mentioned? Other than that love the vid as always
Hey Tito, please make a video about the PSIO for the first PlayStation!
Finally on sale!!
Keep going 💪
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When you finished the soldering and you were done, I was like "That's it?" that was quick and easy, no wires.
edit: Quick Q... what racing game was that? I gotta get it for my 6 year old, he loves racing games.
The racing game is F zero gx
F-Zero
That is F-Zero GX. This racing game is extremely well-known for its harsh difficulty, so keep that in mind should you get your hands on it.
@@mr.mystere4999 OVER $100 on Slamazon... Free R O M on the internet lol.
@@adonian I was talking about the game itself. It is actually harder than Diddy Kong Racing.
Oh man, I was JUST about to install my picoboot. Now I have to make a decision lol
Pico boot and tbh it’s an easy decision. It’s here, it works amazing, it’s drop dead cheap
Incredible!
I can imagine when they eventually integrate a micro sd card slot onto the modchip itself you could chop it all down to make an ultra portable gamecube handheald
So, I haven’t really messed with a GameCube since 2005 or earlier, but I’ve taken interest into the retro-modding scene lately so that’s why I’m here. Is this mod a way to add digital storage so you can play your GC games off the SD card and avoid the mini discs all together? Or is it just a way to store game saves/progress? Or both?
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Great video! One question, is it possible to upgrade the version of swiss that comes pre-installed? With picoboot since the swiss install lives on the sd card, you can just swap it. But I'm unsure how this would be accomplished with the kunaiGC
Great question, I didn’t notice anything about wifi or anything.
Recovery option is great, but using Z for that is a no go.
If you ever hold Z on a stock GCN while powering on, you know why.
Aesthetically it’s beautiful
Shout out to seeing Twin Snakes on there
Do you have any soldering tips or tutorial videos?
Honestly, all the love that these consoles get is amazing and all, but I really wish we had some mods for the original DS model 😓, I’ve always been an GBA SP model fan and that model of DS has a soft spot, however, poor quality shells, no real screen replacements, it just sucks :(
I watch a lot of these videos and get really excited until I try to find the hardware featured in them. They are rarely available. I'd love to install the Dual or Pluto HMDI mods but they just aren't out there. So after watching this and the Picoboot video, I'm leaning toward the Pico since you can actually get those. I understand this product isn't available yet but if I miss out early on - that's that.
This one hasn't been released yet but should be available soon
I really like my GCLoader, but this is probably what I would go with if I wanted to keep my disc drive.
Great video. I wish there was a way to force the system to just boot into Swiss without having to remember to hold a button. I don't have any Gamecube discs anymore, so I don't even need the drive haha
the picoboot by default boots to swiss, you can set it up to hold a button on boot though
@@yeolemillinial8295 Yeah, my Gamecube has a picoboot currently
It does. And it doesn't even need an sdcard for it.
In the future you will also be able to configure the boot behaviour like what to do by default, what when button a is hold etc...
The picoboot is a tricky install. This is a better solution if priced ~$20. I had to buy $15 26 AWG which you don't need for this install. Picoboot took me 2 attempts to get right. It may have worked on my 1st attempt using single core 22awg but my sd2sp2 was likely the issue and 22 gauge wire is way too thick. I had to add some solder to my sd2sp2 contacts to get my GC to recognize it in swiss and it's a nice n snug fit
I’m wondering how easy this is for someone with limited soldering skills as I’m rather inexperienced with soldering but the QSB looks relatively straight forward. Only thing I’d be worried about would be to accidentally bridge those smaller pins on that chip.
You should do a video on doing a mod chip on a Nintendo switch!!
You don't mention it but it is good to know that the 16Mb flash memory is most likely used to store the bit file for the FPGA (FPGAs cannot store anything permanently, they need to be configured every time they boot). So not all space on the flash memory will be available
I forgot to mention that this uses a CPLD instead of a FPGA
This is all cool, but I felt like the video lacked of a link or bref exemple of what Swiss is to understand more about it since I have no idea what it is. I'm not familiar with this thing and I was curious and I loved mods of Retro consoles :)