Man, if Billy had made the decision to take the 10 or 11 best acoustic tracks that he wrote during this period (IE: Peace and Love, 99 Floors, The Rose March) and make a full band acoustic record with clean stripped down production it would have been a total masterpiece. It probably would have gotten great reviews as well, not that it matters. But still, I really mourn that lost opportunity because these songs are just too good... They deserve to be on an album but the chance has long since passed him by.
I assembled this album for my own entertainment: the 5 tracks from the live In The Round bit from the DVD, the 4 tracks from American Gothic, plus a stray one from a bootleg that doesn't seem to have been recorded. Bit of Audacity to get the levels lined up and boom - beautiful, largely acoustic 10 track 45ish minute secret SP LP.
This is why the the Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band in the world... One min you hear loud screaming guitars the next you hear something like this that blows me away... I would say this is one of the best songs they have ever recoreded :O)
Dynamic range..The difference between loud and soft..You have to master both to be great at either..The Smashing Pumpkins have understood this for a long time..They are simply the best at what they do..How blessed we are as fans to know this too.. recognize this and have this awesome music be a part of our lives forever..
Havent heard this song in years and years but i watched a zwan bootleg before bed and i guess billy musta played a show for me in Dreamland becauze i woke up with this in my head. Great earworm to have stuck in my head all day.... its now 4:47 am... so... welp. As im iust seeing this now, I guess I could say its been stuck in my head for almost two days.... before i knew what song it was. Thanks
In my entire life, few songs or performances from any artist have captured me like this one has. Brilliance. Just pissed you guys didn't clue me in on this nine years ago. But I forgive you now.
I feel the same way. I'm a#1fan of sp since 93. I found this about 4 years ago and I've been connected to it since. More so than most my other favorites. And its not even a album song. Just something he came up with.
I love Billy Corgan and I love the Smashing Pumpkins. All of them past and present. Saw them last year with Jimmy and James back in the group again, and it was amazing! This song is an absolute treasure and masterpiece.
David Rodriguez I just found this today as well, I never knew this song existed. There was a clip of this on the SP Facebook page and I was moved by it so I immediately came to TH-cam to find it.
This moment in time is possibly the most underrated of Billys entire career the Asheville and San Fran shows in 2007 were some of the most amazing shows of the 19 I have seen since 1994
WTF?, what a level of complexity!, something so beautiful and deep could exist out there?. And there's people saying pumpkins legacy is over. What a bunch of assholes, this is top notch.
Billy is notorious among fans for not putting his better songs of the post 2000 years on the actual released albums. see also: the Zwan Glass House songs, Riverview, Spilled Milk, Prairie Song, the entire ChicagoSongs album, The World's Fair, Bit 5, Tilt, Gossamer, Stellar, The Rose March, the 2008 jammy stuff, Lonely is the Name, Burnt Orange-Black, etc
Ha, I was just thinking something along these lines. You'd never know how good he could really still get from listening to the 'regular' albums. Shame, that.
Zeitgeist (the bonus track from the album of the same name) is one of my fav songs hes ever done and it didnt even make the cut for the album its named after!
I simply cannot believe the amount of positive comments on this video. So nice to read all of your comments. True fans, I guess. I never listen to 99 Floors, never. Only because it's been stuck in my head since 2009. From first note to last. Some might say that this is not ''seminal'' work or important but it is valid, always fresh and important to all of us.
i love this sound of the pumpkins its so jammy and flow ... such a different side of the smashing pumpkina the new band members added so much creative refreshing new creativw influence to pumpkins great era
the precision and textural control improved. im not sure about the overall power or dynamism of the band. although the 2008 version gave the originals a run for their $$$
I used to know you I used to care I used to know you Are you still there? I won't touch you I won't feel you I won't hear you I won't see you I used to know you Are you still there? I used to know you I used to care It goes far and wide It's a cruel device I cannot drive You from my mind I won't reach out I won't strike in I won't dream about I won't parse the thought I used to know you I used to care I used to know you Are you still there? I jumped from the top And fell right back and I Hit the ground running Scared I swam to the bottom of the sea And I asked around for someone Who might know me Ain't a sad when your choices are Vegas and your friends 99 floors And still nowhere to go 99 floors And still nowhere to roam A punch to the head I passed right out and an impotent stood dumbstruck and stared Armed once again by the fist of fate I wait for his resurrection home Ain't it sad when your choices are vices or advice It's eleven o'clock And don't that make you bawl It's eleven o'clock And don't ya make it bawl Evil, ailing Feeling oh so low I'm slow to anger Wonder where I could Ever go You know I'd have to forget It goes far and wide It's a cruel device I cannot drive You from my mind
Billy Corgan This was a Brilliant Arrangement of this Song. Billy, I play it on my Taylor when I miss someone I loved but can't be with or even talk to. It's a weird world when a person runs from the thing they profess to hold most dear. Love. Strange, these Humans.;) T1
Wow you know there was a lot of beautiful songs written by billy during this zeitgeist era ... the album had some mixing issues but some of these songs you hear live just incredible. Like a blend of Gish and adore
I used to know you I used to care I used to know you Are you still there? I won't touch you I won't feel you I won't hear you I won't see you I used to know you Are you still there? I used to know you I used to care It goes far and wide It's a cruel device I cannot drive You from my mind I won't reach out I won't strike in I won't dream about I won't parse the thought I used to know you I used to care I used to know you Are you still there? I jumped from the top And fell right back and I Hit the ground running Scared I swam to the bottom of the sea And I asked around for someone Who might know me Ain't a sad when your choices Are Vegas and your friends And still nowhere to go And still nowhere to roam A punch to the head I passed right out and an Impotent stood dumbstruck And stared Armed once again by the fist of fate I wait for his resurrection home Ain't it sad when your choices Are vices or advice It's eleven o'clock And don't that make you bawl It's eleven o'clock And don't ya make it bawl Evil, ailing Feeling oh so low I'm slow to anger Wonder where I could Ever go You know I'd have to forget It goes far and wide It's a cruel device I cannot drive You from my mind
@muzicnub4life No studio version really exists right now, unless the band's recording it for "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope". This is probably the best version of it that exists.
Billy is notorious among fans for not putting his better songs of the post 2000 years on the actual released albums. see also: the Zwan Glass House songs, Riverview, Spilled Milk, Prairie Song, the entire ChicagoSongs album, The World's Fair, Bit 5, Tilt, Gossamer, Stellar, The Rose March, the 2008 jammy stuff, Lonely is the Name, Burnt Orange-Black, etc.
@@CodyChromeBand he has entire albums in the can that have never been released. The actual depth of the catalog is probably more astounding than anyone knows.
@dethmag Well you have to respect the fact that the same mind that That wrote songs as hard as Bullet With Butterfly Wings, and The Ever Lasting Gaze can write a smooth sweet song like this. I love this song it would have been perfect for Melancholy And The Infinite Sadness.
still it leaves a particular feeling in my gut of ambitous curiousity if the orignal line up would fail miserably or succeed gracefully now a days and how they would sound together making new music. i guess we will never know.
Everyone always craps on Billy for being smug or arrogant but if u could make and play something like this with that voice on top of it I'd allow u to be oppinunative about the music industry as well.
just one question,do you know james solo work, or his participations in other band (liek a perfect circle)? and melissa, his solo album? james is a diferente musician, but a great one to. it misses something in SP. PS: if you were talking about the tinted windows, i agree thats not a band for james. cumps
@WhiteLotusFlower well, I have to agree that the last concept that billy adopt is very interesting. about james, is a diferent way is choose to follow. I cheer him. just hope that billy can mantaine the good work pos tarantula (that was really a side shot). cumps
Peace+Love, 99floors, No Surrender, Gossamer, Mama, Promise Me, and rerelease Zeitgeist properly with all the songs from that era on one album like Zeitgeist, MaBelle, Death from Above, ....and release Superchrist, GLOW, and FOL as well...oh and release Lightning Strikes and Owata....!! commmeeee onnnnnn!!
I didn't like Zeitgeist much but songs like this are a great addition to the Pumpkins legacy imo. He had any number of names to call the band he puts out these new songs under, but obviously he feels that they're "Pumpkin" material, or hed have called them "Zwan" or "Billy Corgan" songs.
Explain how its over-indulgent? It's a great build up to a great song. Just because he solos it in the beginning? You mean like starla? He's starting you off on a ride... why not just enjoy the trip? ;) A great song doesn't need to be dissected, just enjoyed.
It's a pity that stuff like this never made it onto a proper album. The Pumpkins could've really aged gracefully if they'd released something in the 00s that had this sort of nuanced acoustic sound.
20anosdepois Of course i've heard james solo works dude and(perfect circle) Sorry I've heard his solo stuff not be a hater of what he does,it adds up to?Lets see NOTHING really.I don't have problem with melissa's solo works...good stuff.Fan's really need stop living in the pass really.Billy's making music get over it and SP is his.I do really miss jimmy tho...but like the old saying goes, stop living in pass and "ALL THINGS CHANGE".
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Man, if Billy had made the decision to take the 10 or 11 best acoustic tracks that he wrote during this period (IE: Peace and Love, 99 Floors, The Rose March) and make a full band acoustic record with clean stripped down production it would have been a total masterpiece. It probably would have gotten great reviews as well, not that it matters. But still, I really mourn that lost opportunity because these songs are just too good... They deserve to be on an album but the chance has long since passed him by.
Yeah, these are my thoughts almost exactly. They could've released a great acoustic record.
I assembled this album for my own entertainment: the 5 tracks from the live In The Round bit from the DVD, the 4 tracks from American Gothic, plus a stray one from a bootleg that doesn't seem to have been recorded. Bit of Audacity to get the levels lined up and boom - beautiful, largely acoustic 10 track 45ish minute secret SP LP.
@@iwearthegold cool idea pham!
Can only hope they get released on a box set some day. Ugh
Yeah they could have called it American Gothic! 😁
This is why the the Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band in the world... One min you hear loud screaming guitars the next you hear something like this that blows me away... I would say this is one of the best songs they have ever recoreded :O)
Amy, in my opinion you are so right. I tottaly agree with you. Always brings a tear to my eye. Always gets me. Love this song.
Their range is incredible and their catalog is deep as the ocean.
Dynamic range..The difference between loud and soft..You have to master both to be great at either..The Smashing Pumpkins have understood this for a long time..They are simply the best at what they do..How blessed we are as fans to know this too.. recognize this and have this awesome music be a part of our lives forever..
Greatest comment ever
Only them and Pixies have been able to switch between loud and quiet and back so effortlessly.
Amen, Sir. ❤
Havent heard this song in years and years but i watched a zwan bootleg before bed and i guess billy musta played a show for me in Dreamland becauze i woke up with this in my head. Great earworm to have stuck in my head all day.... its now 4:47 am... so... welp. As im iust seeing this now, I guess I could say its been stuck in my head for almost two days.... before i knew what song it was.
Thanks
I love this band unconditionally. Billy is a genius.
This sums up my attitude with Billy as well
In my entire life, few songs or performances from any artist have captured me like this one has. Brilliance. Just pissed you guys didn't clue me in on this nine years ago. But I forgive you now.
I feel the same way. I'm a#1fan of sp since 93. I found this about 4 years ago and I've been connected to it since. More so than most my other favorites. And its not even a album song. Just something he came up with.
I love Billy Corgan and I love the Smashing Pumpkins. All of them past and present. Saw them last year with Jimmy and James back in the group again, and it was amazing! This song is an absolute treasure and masterpiece.
I saw them last year in Tucson and just discovered this gem today. Seeing them play together is just amazing and this performance left me speechless.
David Rodriguez I just found this today as well, I never knew this song existed. There was a clip of this on the SP Facebook page and I was moved by it so I immediately came to TH-cam to find it.
@@Snagman67 that is exactly what I did lol
David Rodriguez and here I am listening to it again
This moment in time is possibly the most underrated of Billys entire career the Asheville and San Fran shows in 2007 were some of the most amazing shows of the 19 I have seen since 1994
Perfect example of how Pumpkins' sound can change, and still be Pumpkins, and still be awesome.
this is an underrated masterpiece I just love the ebb and flow of it
Totally agree
WTF?, what a level of complexity!, something so beautiful and deep could exist out there?. And there's people saying pumpkins legacy is over. What a bunch of assholes, this is top notch.
This is beautiful
Come back to this all the time. Such a beautiful song that makes me feel at total peace.
Billy is notorious among fans for not putting his better songs of the post 2000 years on the actual released albums. see also: the Zwan Glass House songs, Riverview, Spilled Milk, Prairie Song, the entire ChicagoSongs album, The World's Fair, Bit 5, Tilt, Gossamer, Stellar, The Rose March, the 2008 jammy stuff, Lonely is the Name, Burnt Orange-Black, etc
Ha, I was just thinking something along these lines. You'd never know how good he could really still get from listening to the 'regular' albums. Shame, that.
Cardinal Rule, As Rome Burns, most of the solo album (especially Archer)
werideatdusk it's a bit aggravating for a guy who always seems mad when he gets bad reviews.
Hes an idiot for doing that
Zeitgeist (the bonus track from the album of the same name) is one of my fav songs hes ever done and it didnt even make the cut for the album its named after!
Great song, great performance! The Smashing Pumpkins never disappoint!
Such a beautiful song and performance...
I am happy to see that many people around the world share the same taste for great music :)
I simply cannot believe the amount of positive comments on this video. So nice to read all of your comments. True fans, I guess. I never listen to 99 Floors, never. Only because it's been stuck in my head since 2009. From first note to last.
Some might say that this is not ''seminal'' work or important but it is valid, always fresh and important to all of us.
Love this song. In my opinion one of the best. Love it Billy.
How does this not have millions of views??
i love this sound of the pumpkins its so jammy and flow ... such a different side of the smashing pumpkina the new band members added so much creative refreshing new creativw influence to pumpkins great era
This beautiful piece of music exemplifies that SP became even better following their reunion.
the precision and textural control improved. im not sure about the overall power or dynamism of the band. although the 2008 version gave the originals a run for their $$$
@@werideatdusk The Oceania line-up was amazing, despite not having Jimmy.
love this song, I can't remember where I 1st heard it but I've never forgotten it. ❤
part of what makes billy a great songwriter is his ability to be patient and slowly build to an awesome crescendo
Wow. This is incredible.
I'm already crying.
human beings, sometimes they're like trees, simple, complex, beautiful, innocent. billy gives music as they give oxygen, it's like an obvious miracle
I used to know you
I used to care
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I won't touch you
I won't feel you
I won't hear you
I won't see you
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I used to know you
I used to care
It goes far and wide
It's a cruel device
I cannot drive
You from my mind
I won't reach out
I won't strike in
I won't dream about
I won't parse the thought
I used to know you
I used to care
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I jumped from the top
And fell right back and I
Hit the ground running
Scared
I swam to the bottom of the sea
And I asked around for someone
Who might know me
Ain't a sad when your choices
are Vegas and your friends
99 floors
And still nowhere to go
99 floors
And still nowhere to roam
A punch to the head
I passed right out and an
impotent stood dumbstruck
and stared
Armed once again by the fist of fate
I wait for his resurrection home
Ain't it sad when your choices
are vices or advice
It's eleven o'clock
And don't that make you bawl
It's eleven o'clock
And don't ya make it bawl
Evil, ailing
Feeling oh so low
I'm slow to anger
Wonder where I could
Ever go
You know I'd have to forget
It goes far and wide
It's a cruel device
I cannot drive
You from my mind
ether boy I cannot *just drive
Gorgeous! I love it
Perfection
as usual ...
Billy Corgan This was a Brilliant Arrangement of this Song. Billy, I play it on my Taylor when I miss someone I loved but can't be with or even talk to. It's a weird world when a person runs from the thing they profess to hold most dear. Love. Strange, these Humans.;) T1
:)
This is the best thing they've done since they've been back (the DVD and the song)!
I love this
Best drummer in the world
just beautiful... no more word needed.
Beautiful music...
wonderful
I love it! Thank you
this song is so marvellous...
Billy Corgan sempre arrebentando :D
Que voz incrivelmente linda. :3
Wow, I wish there was a studio version of this.
If someone posts the whole "if all goes wrong" movie on TH-cam, I will love you forever
It's on the American Gothic album
@@brettkenney8444 unfortunately that’s not true. The Rose March, Pox, Sunkissed, and Again, Again, Again are the four tracks on American gothic
Wow you know there was a lot of beautiful songs written by billy during this zeitgeist era ... the album had some mixing issues but some of these songs you hear live just incredible. Like a blend of Gish and adore
Unironically, this is the song that got me into folk
JESUS JUST AWESOME!
I used to know you
I used to care
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I won't touch you
I won't feel you
I won't hear you
I won't see you
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I used to know you
I used to care
It goes far and wide
It's a cruel device
I cannot drive
You from my mind
I won't reach out
I won't strike in
I won't dream about
I won't parse the thought
I used to know you
I used to care
I used to know you
Are you still there?
I jumped from the top
And fell right back and I
Hit the ground running
Scared
I swam to the bottom of the sea
And I asked around for someone
Who might know me
Ain't a sad when your choices
Are Vegas and your friends
And still nowhere to go
And still nowhere to roam
A punch to the head
I passed right out and an
Impotent stood dumbstruck
And stared
Armed once again by the fist of fate
I wait for his resurrection home
Ain't it sad when your choices
Are vices or advice
It's eleven o'clock
And don't that make you bawl
It's eleven o'clock
And don't ya make it bawl
Evil, ailing
Feeling oh so low
I'm slow to anger
Wonder where I could
Ever go
You know I'd have to forget
It goes far and wide
It's a cruel device
I cannot drive
You from my mind
❤️❤️❤️
Awesome!!! Thank you for posting..; )
@muzicnub4life
No studio version really exists right now, unless the band's recording it for "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope". This is probably the best version of it that exists.
This song is ten years old and i never heard it.
Billy is notorious among fans for not putting his better songs of the post 2000 years on the actual released albums. see also: the Zwan Glass House songs, Riverview, Spilled Milk, Prairie Song, the entire ChicagoSongs album, The World's Fair, Bit 5, Tilt, Gossamer, Stellar, The Rose March, the 2008 jammy stuff, Lonely is the Name, Burnt Orange-Black, etc.
cdreyes81 sure there are scads more
@@CodyChromeBand he has entire albums in the can that have never been released. The actual depth of the catalog is probably more astounding than anyone knows.
@@mikeneuburger3989 agreed
I still love billy, lattely has been making some pretty cool versions and even some new song, that even diferent from the Great SP are very nice....
I have this DVD. It's so good!!
in 2021, We need this king of songs from billy......
I. LOVE. THIS! #fanforlife
Damnit this song sounds amazing. It's too bad you can't get it on iTunes...
wow this configuration setting reminds me of the BeaTLes "Let it Be" inside the album picture (when u open the album cover) spread, cheers! x0]
Billy Corgan is such a talented human being.
Baixei no celular e ouço todo dia. Linda !
magnific!!
@kennykensworth I love these lyrics. 99 Floors is a masterpiece.
Such an amazing song. Similar in feel to a couple of Pisces Iscariot tracks I love.
this song is sooooo good i hope its on the next album
@ 0:46 whats that little screen on the floor by billy ?
Peterson tuner
@@analogonthird6506 thanks i ended up figuring it out but thank you for reply its very apreciate just the same!!
Such a cool song.. Actually really love this era of the band.. Although lets be honest, Corgan never really got the harmonica thing down.
this is actually a studio version, played live....
Love
love this had the dvd lost it eh fml
' I use to know you...
@dethmag Well you have to respect the fact that the same mind that That wrote songs as hard as Bullet With Butterfly Wings, and The Ever Lasting Gaze can write a smooth sweet song like this. I love this song it would have been perfect for Melancholy And The Infinite Sadness.
Anyone who says they like the Smashing Pumpkins, I show them this. You either love them or you don't ❤️
long live the pumpkins!
still it leaves a particular feeling in my gut of ambitous curiousity if the orignal line up would fail miserably or succeed gracefully now a days and how they would sound together making new music. i guess we will never know.
Everyone always craps on Billy for being smug or arrogant but if u could make and play something like this with that voice on top of it I'd allow u to be oppinunative about the music industry as well.
Dr Mantis Toboggan :/
iasip. Magnum dong.
And I do think the very same brother ... I totally agree!!! But actually this song hasn't been recorded in studio yet just written and performed ...
just one question,do you know james solo work, or his participations in other band (liek a perfect circle)? and melissa, his solo album?
james is a diferente musician, but a great one to. it misses something in SP.
PS: if you were talking about the tinted windows, i agree thats not a band for james.
cumps
@WhiteLotusFlower well, I have to agree that the last concept that billy adopt is very interesting.
about james, is a diferent way is choose to follow. I cheer him.
just hope that billy can mantaine the good work pos tarantula (that was really a side shot).
cumps
Does somebody know the key of the harmonica in this song ?
Thx.
Is anybody here can tell me , what is the Taylor he play with ?
GA model ?
People who say Billy can't write anymore haven't heard this song.
I play this but find it hard to fight the pain. Peace to all who used to know
Peace+Love, 99floors, No Surrender, Gossamer, Mama, Promise Me, and rerelease Zeitgeist properly with all the songs from that era on one album like Zeitgeist, MaBelle, Death from Above, ....and release Superchrist, GLOW, and FOL as well...oh and release Lightning Strikes and Owata....!! commmeeee onnnnnn!!
Lightning strikes and owata have a release on vinyl. It's incredibly rare though.
And yes a zeitgeist reissue with all these songs would amazing
Questo è un vero pezzo malin-corgan
Imagine how many takes this took.
Just one. It was impromptu.
7:59 my best part
3:20 Rocket? nah fuck it
@Koindrank 2 right
I didn't like Zeitgeist much but songs like this are a great addition to the Pumpkins legacy imo. He had any number of names to call the band he puts out these new songs under, but obviously he feels that they're "Pumpkin" material, or hed have called them "Zwan" or "Billy Corgan" songs.
I have to ask again, did he even sell Today? I thought Virgin still had the distribution rights.
Explain how its over-indulgent? It's a great build up to a great song. Just because he solos it in the beginning? You mean like starla? He's starting you off on a ride... why not just enjoy the trip? ;) A great song doesn't need to be dissected, just enjoyed.
my master Billy
Honestly the only Pumpkins song I like (and really like) post reform and it's not on an album!
what key harmonica does he use?
Deathhawkgnar C major
It's a GS8 Taylor Model !
I take it it's some kind of open chord tuning billy uses for this one?
I learnt it by ear, drop D with a capo does the job. may not 100% but worked for me!
Jimmy will return. I already know. Billy just needs to focus on music and stop selling the songs for commercials. I mean 2 already this year.
And Chris your comment from 11 years ago came true. :)
Fantastic, but the Chris Isaac Show version is even better.
I agree they had a vibe at that point that was really special
Without a doubt! The Chris Issac show session is the absolute best - in performance as well as sound.
It's a pity that stuff like this never made it onto a proper album. The Pumpkins could've really aged gracefully if they'd released something in the 00s that had this sort of nuanced acoustic sound.
20anosdepois Of course i've heard james solo works dude and(perfect circle) Sorry I've heard his solo stuff not be a hater of what he does,it adds up to?Lets see NOTHING really.I don't have problem with melissa's solo works...good stuff.Fan's really need stop living in the pass really.Billy's making music get over it and SP is his.I do really miss jimmy tho...but like the old saying goes, stop living in pass and "ALL THINGS CHANGE".
4:52
kinda sounds like classic country or folkish with that guitar not saying its a bad thing either
He is left handed but plays With right position
got sick of looking
at the comment below
for 3 weeks.
great song though.