Spend $70,000 ...or Fix it? 24-Speed Synchro Transmission | Case IH 9350 Steiger [EP2]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Kevin's Steiger 9350 won't shift into gear, so we remove the cab to get a better look.
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0:00 Kevin's back!
0:33 Steiger 24-speed Synchro disassembly
05:21 More problems more money...
9:52 Closer look at speed shaft
13:38 Speed shaft disassembly
16:57 Master clutch inspection
21:27 Salvaging parts from a burnt transmission
23:25 Citric acid rust removal
25:36 Unboxing new & new used parts
28:57 Speed shaft reassembly
31:38 Master clutch shaft setup
35:16 Lunch time
36:05 Main clutch plates & springs
38:19 Speed shaft gears
40:01 Speed shaft install
42:47 Master clutch final assembly
47:47 Master clutch install
48:23 Pump drive shaft bearings
50:18 Pump drive shaft install
52:55 Sealing up the transmission
55:23 Bearing preload
57:08 What's next?
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I'm a hobby mechanic at best. I've rebuilt engines, a Dana 44, etc. I can sort of weld, I can usually figure out most things. But this?!? Ho Lee Chit. This is baffling. Respect to you fellas for tackling this Chinese puzzle of a transmission!
A shop manual with instructions to troubleshoot and rebuild parts # clearances and exposed views is the only way I can get on to something critical
Just a big box of gears 🤣🤣🤣 lot of steel
I build race cars, but I still have no idea how an automatic transmission works. It just does.
@@1one3_Racing so true hahaha
It's Japanese.
I love Kevin's Can Do attitude... Farmers have to do a lot of things, Electrician, Plumber, Vet, Mechanic, on top of all the stuff about growing crops, financial stuff and dealing with the weather... well done guys. 👏
I think it is the hardest job in the world. A farmer needs to be expert in a huge range of things and work with financial margins that would turn a Bay st. financier's hair white with fear. On top of all of that, they get to work really hard.
Major respect :)
That's why farmers are the best. Some of the most hardest working, honest, down to earth type of people. It's a hard life for most of them.
7:40 dog
@@ctdieselnut it's a dying career... Literally something is going to have to change because they've just been working harder and barely breaking even for a long time
You either do or die essentially.
This and all transmission rebuilds seem like a "how hard could it be" job that you start then never can get everything back together, either loosing, forgetting, or putting in one small piece wrong and have to blow it all open again. Great job on this.
I wouldn’t wanna be the one paying for it
thats how rebuilding my lawnmower diff went, broke the open dif so I welded it(pro tip torch the gear to burn off the oil before welding) and uhhh not so much forgot to put a part back in, more so that I forgot on my unit, like a bicycle, it needs to be engaged to pop into gear. Guess who re-rebuilt it thinking he messed something up? (:
I'm currently rebuilding an automatic out of an 80s mercedes.....it's been an ordeal for sure lol
I'm with Kevin regarding sealant. Definitely falls under "The bigger the gob, the better the job"
Also, it's anaerobic, so it shouldn't clog up any oil passages.
@@jrevillug you’re kidding right?
@@jrevillug shouldn't 😂😂😂 but believe me it will 👌😂😂😂
Don't use any more anaerobic sealant than necessary. Squeeze out should not cure and get in screen, but it can if there is too much.
The suction screen is not very large on those, but all oil goes through the pump, is filtered and cooled before entering the transmission. There should be no sealant used on any of the gaskets that seal the shaft ends.
Judging by the amount of external squeeze out they used way too much expensive sealant.
Also, I hope they wiped it off, that stuff never cures and you end up with 515 all over your clothes.
@@jimnaden5594 yup, this is exactly how my FR-S died after Toyota performed a valve spring recall on it. They used too much sealant on the timing cover and bits of excess RTV clogged one of my oil galleries, and part of the pick up. Not cool.
I could feel Kevin’s financial pain throughout watching this
When I see Kevin's head popup in a video I know there's gonna be some sketchy goings on 😆
Enjoy it when Kevin joins you, he's very knowledgeable you guys make a good pair.
Really enjoy the HD content, I rebuilt H/D gearbox's for 20 years, and got all excited when you pulled out the broken syncro pin with the mag stick, thinking I know where that came from. Nice job guys!!!!!
You guys are legends. I would have lost my mind a couple hundred times just looking at all those parts inside that case.
Thanks for the shout out guys. Glad we could help. Snead Equipment Sales & Service.
Yes I'm glad to see your new parts going to use! Since I've talked to you on the phone quite a few times I work at big tractor parts up in Minnesota! I hope you guys have lots of success with the 24 speed Manuel
Totally enjoyed this episode. And now I know I will never tackle something like this on one of my own tractors with a power shift. Thanks in advance of not letting me screw it up!!
Kevin is such a natural in front of the camera. You guys together are a hoot! Love these episodes.
There are some videos where I'm really blown away at what a clever mechanic you are, and how independent you and Kevin both are. This one, the day you dragged that man-lift out of the old lady's yard, some of the days where you and your brother used to just go start up old dozers in the junkyard for fun. Rich, I think a lot about how I want to own an electric car both for cost savings and for the reduced environmental impact - but when I think about how simple they are and how little there would be to maintain, I really worry that I'm going to lose touch with a lot of the greasemonkey hard-working identity that makes me feel a little bit closer to people like you and Kevin. As the world evolves and changes, I hope we can all still find ways to get out there and get filthy, because your determined nature to reuse, recycle, rebuild, and do it all on your own taps into some kind of primal feeling that I think is very important for everyone and I personally never want to lose touch with. I think your work and the growing audience you're building are important and are a really positive contribution to the world, man. It's not just all just goofy fun, it's important stuff.
Thank you very much! That being said, we are building an EV. the 48 Convertible is going electric. Whether we like it or not, it is here to stay. I will always have old gas and diesel though. Don't like the idea of someone behind a computer shutting down my car remotely because they don't like something I did or said though. Will likely be making Bio-diesel this summer too
@@DGHD this is an excellent video 📹 I want to thank you for all of your hard work in your TH-cam videos hi 👋 from #YSW respect back to you
Don't put bricks in with the acid. The brick material neutralizes the acid.
It was a bizarre decision, when Rich mentioned they were bubbling too, I wondered if it was one of his jokes. But I guess it wasn’t.
Could be ok if the bricks were in gallon ziploc bags
This is a monster trans rebuild, he’ll I break into a sweat trying to rebuild a 2spd Honda mini bike trans. Kevin’s the man 🙂
That's one hell of a transmission repair. Great job of getting it back together.
This is beyond interesting!!!
Thank you for letting us into the world of big tractor gearboxes with the knowledge and witt that makes this a very nice experience to watch!
We are witnessing Canadian grease Gangsters in action. That transmission is terrifying 😳.
Theres a casualness some people have when their dismantling something this complicated that really let's you know theyv been round the block afew times and know what their doing.
My eyes would be sweating
long awaited and didn't disappoint . Kevin was great on camera, he a natural and great personality, smart funny and humble approach and he thrifty too . Hope his wife appreciates all these amazing points lol :-)
Good effort filming more technical worthwhile parts and got enough out of that to tackle one if needed :-)
How much Kevin put into the full fix ?
The full rebuilds are over the top and wasteful in most cases, if parts in spec/serviceable use them and save material resources and money .
The good news is Rich owes Kevin more than the 'fix' cost in hours on the forever borrowed Forklift lol .
Looked good fun in the shop, hope first run is slick, all the best guys ...
Love your comments about engineers. It's not a question of intelligence, it's expertise. You guys are smarter than most engineers. And the marketing comments are golden, that's just how they think about "product". I was lucky to work for a company where marketing had no input on engineering, but they did have input on the features we included in our devices, because they knew the customers better than we did.
I think Kevin is as close to a millright worker as they come. Being a farmer comes in there too.He needs his own farming channel. He is the man....
One of my favorite videos thus far. And Kevin is always awesome to have in videos
Great job guys I haven’t done a big gearbox fix for around 25 years now I used to really enjoy doing them. I can’t believe the price of the parts nowadays but there again I guess that’s the same everywhere in the world not just here in the UK at the moment. Looking forward to seeing the tractor turning its wheels when you get it back together.
You guys have got parts everywhere from A hole to breakfast, if you get it back together and working I'll be well impressed 👌
When i was a Tech ppl would always think the same thing. I never bagged or market anything. In my mind it only goes back 2gether one way. If i took it apart i could put it back together correctly. -Ex Toyota ASE tech
Well they videoed it all
I love watching 2 bloke's bouncing comments and having fun in the workshop
and getting things done. (hopefully 😁)
Good video gents
Looking forward to part 2
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
I love doing gearboxes, especially big ones. I used to spend my saturdays putting engines and gearboxes back together after the line mechanics took them apart during the week. they were warranty returns going back the the factory from the truck dealership i was working at, and it was really just so they all went back in one lump than as a box of parts. I learned a LOT doing that, a perfect job for a 14 year old! Since then I've always taken gearbox jobs if given the choice, nothing is more satisfying than watching nicely machined parts go together.
I love how the dog has a half black head from being petted by oily greasy hands. Now I know I'm not the only one who spreads the oil/grease from whatever I'm working on to everything I touch in my shop.
I love watching videos like this, someone passionate and knowledgeable doing something they enjoy. In a way thats entertaining, humorous and informative. You can see Kevin's brain ticking over. Great video 👍👍
You're the man Kevin! Real life repair, thanks for sharing this.
Love the long and in-depth episodes :D
I’ve been patiently waiting for this video and you guys did not disappoint! Love it keep up the great work !
An honour to spend time with you gentlemen, nice job, thankyou.
Huge respect to you for tackling this yourselves!
Impressive. I love me some HD. Can't wait to see it installed and running.
This was a treat to watch! Thanks guys!
Totally impressed, great video, love Watching you work with Kevin! I can't imagine taking that transmission on. Nice job.
Cool video, that’s an insane amount of work to condense down into an hour long video 👍 Kevin is a very knowledgeable guy, he’s got a future rebuilding transmissions if he gets sick of farming
I thought it only took an hour! 😂
Thanks for putting in the time to show us how a big gearbox repair can be done. I've been lazy leaving my truck box without a 3rd synchro for years, but feel more confident to tackle it knowing it won't be nearly as complicated as this. I bought the reco box for a hino engine swap on an old inter firetruck motorhome years ago and the synchro was no good, but the hassle of pulling it out again for warranty wasn't worth it at the time, so just drove it. Wifey wants to drive it now, so might have to fix it after all :)
Fantastic job! Thanks for filming it for us!
Rich it's a blast when Kevin is on the channel he is a sharp guy.
I worked at a case IH shop for a few years and seen several 9350s in the shop. I never seen the inside of one of those though. I worked on the cane harvester side. I did a lot of work on the 8.3 Cummins and was the shop welder. I did cut out and replaced a few center section pivot plates on the 9350. That was a job. They usually took out the back glass before they realized the steering bushings in the plate were gone and destroyed the plate. I did help them cut up and scrap a few old 9350s and we sent the motors and transmissions over seas somewhere.
Interesting video, Kevin is a very talented mechanic that also can tell us how and why :) Looking forward to the next ;)
I use evaporust for rust removal it works amazing for rusty parts I’ve used it to free up brake actuators and such
And I really enjoy when Kevin is on the channel!
That was a super video. Thanks to Kevin now I know a little bit more of life. Like the guy.
A for sure worth the wait video on this repair. 👍 👍
The half of the casing is TWICE the size of the basin I wash the WHOLE gear box in.
One of my favourite channels.
Wow! this brings back memories, About 30 or so years ago I redid a trans out of a Hough 400 wheel loader. The case was as big as a coffin!! but very similar to the internals of this trans.
I hope this machinery performs well with all the tech in this seems to have come apart thanks to these boys you can see what it's about nice work boys always
I am NOT a Case IH tech, but I've seen clutches like that master clutch before. Pretty sure they're supposed to be dished like that. Helps break the oil sticktion so the clutch doesn't drag. If they were all completely flat, they'd ring together like gauge blocks and act engaged.
Those plates are not to have a bevel to them, they should be flat.
Greetings: This reminds me of a bet 2 aquire '39 Herman KooKoo clock I acquired as Parts in a box. I am not sure if they were mad at me or being nice. After some time of scrounging and making parts I finally completed the project. It was accurate about 1.5 mins a week. The sound and original craftsmanship is superb. Needless 2 say I won the bet I could not reassemble it 2 function proper. Thx 4 the share fellows.
Kevin is my idle! this is fantastic!
Wow guys that was something else! Have to see it working!
That part about the brick had me in stitches. Could see Kevin's gears turning there for a second as he tried to figure out how you manage to get stain on the brick in the tank.
When you pulled that housing apart, my jaw dropped... Disassembly is the easy part...remembering how to reassemble....that is a serious Jeebus "what did I get myself into"
really interesting video, as someone who used to build transmissions not all companies replace ALL syncros and bearings for new!, that's why they have serviceable used parts on stock!!!.
Thoroughly enjoyed this series so far.
I’ll never do anything like this, but I love watching . So therapeutic
Great watching, cheers guys!
I will never attempt a job like this, but I enjoy watching and learning.
as always a good watch
well done on a job well done with old and new parts
Sure I will pull it apart. It getting it back together correctly is where the money is. Been scared before but last time I thought about rebuilding a trans I looked at the new blister pack of parts and took it to a trans specialist…. No problem working on my 6.0 power smoke but not willing to open the can of worms on a transmission. Hat off to ya Kev. Can’t wait to see the Case pop thru the gears..
Can't go wrong with too much anaerobic sealant! Johnson/Evinrude used on on their block halves for 2 stroke outboards and you didn't want an air leak after all that work!
Great video! Not as insanely complicated as I was expecting.
Best rebuild video ever!!!
Kevin appreciates that for sure!
The beauty of anaerobic sealer is that it does not harden except where it needs to like on the sealing surface, any extra will dissolve into the oil and not plug orifices like RTV will. Love that stuff but man it is spendy.
Great job on that trans, lets hope it all works once installed!
absolutely hilarious video, i love watching you two doing stuff :D
These kinds of episodes are the best. Thank you
Fairly straight forward , good winter job 👍
This video got me motivated to change my drivers side CV axle on my 2002 Ford zx2. Its a 4 cylinder automatic, them things are a bitch to release from transmission, even had the tool with slide bar, but a crow bar did the trick. Hugh Mc -Chicago metro
That was cool seeing the guts of one of those transmissions. I'm an ASE certified tech and kinda stayed away from tranission work but I'm thinking I have a 4l60 sitting around that I may attempt to rebuild on
Kudos to the two of you 👍
So, I was a small engine mechanic for about 15 years. My personal mower now is a kubota g1800 3 cylinder diesel. I WAS APPAULED AT THE PARTS PRICES! $120 for a U-joint, $100 for an idler pulley, $350 for the e-box that controls a couple of simple safety's and turns the engine off... Just insane to me. $120 for a u-joint that doesn't even do half the work of a car? holy cow! Most expensive lawnmower to repair I've ever seen in my life.
Kevin is a delight! Love that dude!
I've rebuilt a few manual transmissions in my life but, from passenger vehicles not this massive beast of a thing. I have to say though that the general design layout is similar, just really massive!
I watched the whole video man and I thank you for showing us what's involved to us mechanically inclined folk.
Damn! I built, flew and maintained my own Oshkosh-award-winning aircraft but I am humbled by these two "got no real choice here" dudes. Kudos!!
better than anything that comes on TV, cheers
Wow, great job. I went through a couple Case plant in the 80's, they had sealant by the 45 gallon barrel full like the grease guns in shops coming in lines from above, and they were putting big beads on it then. It was orange sealant just like the Case castings were then. Seen a finally assembly plant ( 2200 series) and the transmission plant for the same. Guessing Kevin's background is heavy equipment and not Tv's 🤣. 👍👍
Good to see that you were able to obtain the second hand gears from the rebuild centre.. Makes life a bit more bearable....
Well.
I’m impressed. I agree with the value judgements with used parts and my gut says you got it all put together well. I appreciated the cautious way you approached the damage discovery portion too.
This whole deal is a classic example of “ if your not a genius, your not a farmer “
I’m sure we will all be excited to watch that beast dropped back in the tractor and seeing the sneaky smile Kevin will have when it works without the meat grinder soundtrack.
Ah yes, the old "brick in the reservoir" 😄
Can't hide your roots there ! Nice work lads !
I always enjoy Kevin's projects. I farm with older equipment too. I have an old green Steiger but it has the Spicer truck style transmission which i hope will be cheaper / easier if I ever have to rebuild. Parts availability? who knows!
Amazing skill at rebuilding the gearbox. It is beyond my feeble brains capacity as to how engineers design and make such complex machinery.
no way that goes back together without a manual.. Ive already forgotten the order of those gears and snap rings lol You guys are crazy lol I could have a manual a video and a transmission guy and still get that thing all out of order. Nice work guys
Regarding the sealant... my mind went straight to Derek from VGG, "waaay too much, that's perfect" 🤣🤣
A very interesting video, great detail. Keep them coming.
Kevin is a brave son of a gun, and Mr. Deboss giggling everytime he blows an assembly apart definitely doesn't help 😂.. my skilled mechanic friend starts laughing as I take things apart, I'd definitely be a bit more nervous 😂. I have a lot of respect, that's a hell of a lot more shafts than a t5 or the old Eaton I've tore in
Big beefy gearboxes look cool . Nice big gears and shafts . Its the little things that let them down .
😂🤣😂 lol transmission issues, so much frustration 😂🤘 great work Kevin 👍👍
This is how you learn yourself. I know nothing about this type of thing, same as when I entered the shop all those years ago…gotta look at it as nuts and bolts. It will all come apart eventually, with patience.
Such a huge transmission man awesome job 👍
Great video Kevin & Rich. The comment about the electric tractor was perfect & I was wondering how long an extension cord you would need. Interesting repair job. That puller is a killer tool.
Ohh man farming isn’t just dirt work and sunsets, you have to be a Mechanical genius everyday as well, well done Kev, oh and Rich
What I got from this episode: 1. Farming is expense and 2. The engineers who design these gearboxes are sadists. Holy mackerel, that gearbox had to weigh a thousand pounds the complexity...I'm baffled by transmissions but you guys, no problem. Thank you for taking us with you. Subscribed.
I did a bunch of business with Snead at my previous employer, these guys definitely know their CNH drivelines as they rent several old, and new Steigers for use with large scraper pans.. not many better ways to destroy driveline components than scraping, especially when the operator isn’t paying for the equipment.
I have visited their shop - it is exactly what you would expect out of a tractor shop in Alabama haha.
They have built several of their own tools for rebuilding these huge transmissions and axles as well, I was told one of their axle presses gets frequently rented to large CNH dealers as it is the only portable press capable of working some of the assemblies in the country.
Good grief, that's a wee bit over my pay grade . Reminds me of Richard at precision transmission here on TH-cam. Just incredible skills to work on transmissions that work correctly after full disassemble/reassemble. It takes a wealth of knowledge and skills.
Amazing guys... Respect 😊
7:46 always appreciate the dog cam
The scale of everything is huge. That is one serious gear puller.