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In all seriousness, I’m determined to make my shoulder feel better and I will do anything in my power to make myself better, even if that means diagnosing myself and treating myself……I’m immensely grateful for all the orthopedic Information I can find on TH-cam
Yeah you really have to be your own doctor because most doctors don't give a shit about you. I got an MRI and they didn't even look at it...I would have had to schedule another appointment and pay like $200 to have someone read a report to me like I'm 6 years old... And I already had the report. Complete waste of time and money.
Injured my shoulder 3 months ago doing Hammer Strength rows at the gym. I tried rest & inactivity for 6 weeks but the pain/discomfort/loss of mobility/instability didn't get any better. Decided to finally see an orthopedist and get a MRI which revealed a type II SLAP tear from 10 o'clock to 1 o'clock. He suggested surgery (biceps tenodesis due to my age, I'm 46) as an option if PT doesn't help. My followup appt with the doctor is in 4 weeks. A seasoned PT at my job has SLAP tears on both shoulders and told me that under no circumstances should I consider surgery for it. I've read so many articles, testimonials, message boards etc over the past week that I don't know if I'm coming or going. This has all gotten so confusing. All I know is that I just want back normal (or as close to normal as I can get) use of my right shoulder and give zero shits about being able to lift weights again at this point. But I don't want to go under the knife unless I absolutely have to. So I'm going to take the trainer's advice and be patient & consistent with PT using fitness bands & doing range of motion work to strengthen the shoulder and see how it goes. He told me it can take 6 months or longer. If he could do it then I guess I can too. I'll be sure to give the movements in this video a shot as well. Everyone else who's suffering with this has my sympathies.
47 and pretty much told the same thing by my doctor...I guess patience is the key here...btw any experience with swimming freestyle with the SLAP tear?
@@Han9509 I didn't think it was possible to fully heal a tear. Just strengthen the tissue around it, keep it in motion and adapt training as far as I know.
I shouldn't have pushed through with this slap tear (I only knew now- got it from working out). I'm glad it's not total dislocation. God bless, Rev. 21:4
Two questions. On the first exercise on the bench with the plate and the arm straight, how many reps and sets should I do? As an exerciser that does front raises, I didn’t really feel much on that one. And lastly, when are these supposed to start making a difference? I’m on the incline bench right now. Just did these for the first time, and I can’t tell a difference in my incline bench shoulder pain. I know one day isn’t going to do it, but how hard should I hit it, ya know?
Done this first exercise with my non injured shoulder and now i have injured it whilst doing this exercise. Not great when your already having a surgery on the bad side👍
@@zzaher91 if you’re just hanging there it stretches a torn slap but yes you can tear it pulling up apparently doing dips to low as well. I have to get surgery because the Cortizone shot didn’t help and it’s a hard risky surgery apparently. 😱
@@andresdelatorre4275 Tbh I don't think it ever will be 100%. I'm hoping not but it's been almost a year. I will say though, strengthening the muscles around it helps significantly, however I always need to mindful of it when working out, which we should anyway. Recently I was hitting golf balls lol and swong pretty hard and it slightly tore again and was sore for a few days. But when it was at it's worst when it was first torn I'd say it took close to a month. I was lazy about stretching and exercising cause I was disappointed at the situation but I'm sure you be ready to get at it again with consistent stretching/treatment in less time. Hope that clears things for you, just take a break from training and stretch it everyday, be mindful of the position you put it in even in daily tasks and avoid heavy lifting in that arm, maybe go on walks to stay active if exercise was important to you.
@@braxtondavis3815 wow i am in the exact same position as you, surgery was 1.5 years ago. Agreed warm up is super important. I also dont think i will be 100% ,
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After doing range of motion, and shoulder strengthening, when might someone return to say playing tennis? How many weeks would be needed in general, understanding individual variations. Does the tear ever heal? If not, again, how long does one wait to return to tennis, without, hopefully, risking additional injury? Thank you
I am in the same position as you. I play tennis and had a slap tear last year, only now I think i am at 75%.. but the shoulder hurts when I serve, but now with ground strokes. I think we will have to hit the gym and strengthen our shoulders and give it time. This is like an achilles heel injury, it will take time.
Gary Gill did you ever find relief from PT with a SLAP tear? I have the same tear and basically cannot play tennis without hurting for the next few days after a hitting session.
@@JattBrand-bn1cl I did, yeah. A labrum tear doesn’t ever heal, but you can strengthen the muscles around it to support it and move your shoulder into a better position. I recommend the thrower’s 10 routine. I can play tennis most days without aggravating it, and have been able to start bench pressing again.
You’d have to get surgery for a labral tear. The tear itself won’t heal but with exercises like in the video, you can help strengthen the muscles around the labrum and they help with mobility, pain, and will stop it from dislocating as often
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Ok so i think ive only got the start of the slap tear happening , so should i rest for awhile untill pain goes and then slowly start trying these exercises
Is it bad to workout with a slap tear? Clearly its not the best thing to do for your shoulder BUT what are the side effects working out with it For a year or two untreated? once its torn its simply torn so if you weight lift 3 to 4 days a week what can happen to your shoulderm
I’m a bit late to this, but weightlifting isn’t necessarily a bad thing to do. I’ve been dealing with labrum tears for the past 7 years or so and doing pt for those tears. My physical therapist said just be careful with primarily bench and overhead movements. On bench you may not want to go all the way down with the bar. However, as long as you are careful and continue to do exercises like the ones listed in the video, you should be fine
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I’ve been dealing with torn labrums for a while, but you should shoot for doing it just about everyday. I personally do about 3 sets of my own workout. Just enough to feel it in that rotator cuff
Hi doctor ,I am a badminton athlete and I have a level 1 slap tear which is small ,can it be healed with in 20 to 25 days perfectly cause I have to go for a tournament or should I rest ? Please suggest me as soon as possible. Thank you
Please avoid playing if you u want stable this. I m also victim of the same problem and play badminton during injury now I suffered major problem. Take rest and do rehabilitation exercise its better to survive.
I’m by no means a doctor, but from my experience of doing pt for my torn labrums over the past 7 or so years doing those rotator cuff/ shoulder exercises will be the most beneficial to continuing that. Those muscles surrounding your shoulder will help relieve a lot of pressure from a torn labrum
hi I am suffering from SLAP TEAR in MRI "fluid SIGNAL INTENSITY IS NOTED WITHIN LABRAL SUBSTANCE IN ITS INTERIOR & SUPERIOR ASPECT- SUPERIOR LABRAL TEAR (SLAP LESSION)" Can its heal without surgery and how much time takes
gportech how much weight were you using? Rehab exercises need to be done light and carefully. Iv had multiple dislocations. Torn Supraspinatus and labrum tear at the moment. Pain is your guide. Go as far as you can go without pain and reverse the movement. Easy concept but a lot of people end up pushing themselves too much and injuries themselves even further. Im able to do the first exercise with 2 lbs slowly no shoulder slippage
I hate surgery. Im still rehabbing a tornlabrum and Supraspinatus. Its been two months and i can walk around without holding my right arm in pain lol. I still can’t weightlift i hope it can heal enough to where i can put up some halfway decent weight again. I miss working out
hi I am suffering from SLAP TEAR in MRI "fluid SIGNAL INTENSITY IS NOTED WITHIN LABRAL SUBSTANCE IN ITS INTERIOR & SUPERIOR ASPECT- SUPERIOR LABRAL TEAR (SLAP LESSION)" Can its heal without surgery and how much time takes
Hey and thanks so much for the video. I have this slap tear and biceps tendinitis since 2 weeks and its very painful. I need to be first painless before i can do the exercises or it is good to become painless? Thanks so much :-)
@@codycarnes3535 hey man, idk if you’re having the same issues as the guy above, but if you have a torn labrum, it’s probably best to wait for you to not feel the pain before doing the exercises. When your labrum is in pain there may be some inflammation in that area which would increase the chances of the shoulder coming out of socket. Furthermore, it’s best not to irritate something that’s already aggravated. If you have constant pain, then I’d recommend doing more range of motion stuff then adding in more resistance training for your shoulder. Btw I’m by no means a doctor, but I have been doing physical therapy for my shoulders for about 7 years and have learned a lot from that. So I hope it helps
@Alex Delacruz search for Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization Technique (specifically 3 months prone position). You should ideally find a physical therapist trained in this DNS system to help you with all the little technique details you might miss if you learn from youtube. It helped my torn should labrum! I'm just killing time on youtube. :)
@@davidcondit388 Thank you David. I will research the techniques now and start tomorrow as I haven't been able to do upper body over 2 months now. Appreciated.
@@davidcondit388 hey David, I’m so glad I found a positive comment on a torn labrum. Was it a full tear in your case? Based on the MRI, it states that I have a tear on the posterior inferior inferior labrum from 8:00 to 10:00 which I’m guessing means that it is a partial tear?
@@alexdelacruz3543 yeah David is definitely right. Those little small things a therapist could help with would be a tremendous help. In my experience after tearing both labrums 3 times, doing some form of rotator cuff exercises will help a lot with the pain. I personally recommend doing them everyday or every other day
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Have u found relief with certain moves/exercises
Yeah you really have to be your own doctor because most doctors don't give a shit about you. I got an MRI and they didn't even look at it...I would have had to schedule another appointment and pay like $200 to have someone read a report to me like I'm 6 years old... And I already had the report. Complete waste of time and money.
Yes thats the attitude. Its what I have done my entire life.
Injured my shoulder 3 months ago doing Hammer Strength rows at the gym. I tried rest & inactivity for 6 weeks but the pain/discomfort/loss of mobility/instability didn't get any better. Decided to finally see an orthopedist and get a MRI which revealed a type II SLAP tear from 10 o'clock to 1 o'clock. He suggested surgery (biceps tenodesis due to my age, I'm 46) as an option if PT doesn't help. My followup appt with the doctor is in 4 weeks. A seasoned PT at my job has SLAP tears on both shoulders and told me that under no circumstances should I consider surgery for it. I've read so many articles, testimonials, message boards etc over the past week that I don't know if I'm coming or going. This has all gotten so confusing. All I know is that I just want back normal (or as close to normal as I can get) use of my right shoulder and give zero shits about being able to lift weights again at this point. But I don't want to go under the knife unless I absolutely have to. So I'm going to take the trainer's advice and be patient & consistent with PT using fitness bands & doing range of motion work to strengthen the shoulder and see how it goes. He told me it can take 6 months or longer. If he could do it then I guess I can too. I'll be sure to give the movements in this video a shot as well. Everyone else who's suffering with this has my sympathies.
I'm thinking I need a home set up for my exercises
47 and pretty much told the same thing by my doctor...I guess patience is the key here...btw any experience with swimming freestyle with the SLAP tear?
PT couldn't heal a SLAP tear
King Andrew, I too have a slight lesion hopefully you feel better
I have one too but im young and PT hasn't been working so they are recommending surgery or steroid injection
Very helpful. Thank you! On my path back to normalcy after labrum tear
Did you go for surgery or just PT? I heard PT isnt able to heal the labrum
Ying Han I heared that too!
@@Han9509 I didn't think it was possible to fully heal a tear. Just strengthen the tissue around it, keep it in motion and adapt training as far as I know.
How did you do need surgery afterall?
Thank you 🙏
thanks doctor
Uncle Chael sonnen now an orthopedic?
I seriously thought it was him until it zoomed in haha!
Hahah totally looks like him
BRUH🤣🤣🤣🤣
I shouldn't have pushed through with this slap tear (I only knew now- got it from working out). I'm glad it's not total dislocation.
God bless, Rev. 21:4
It might be worth mentioning the scapulohumeral rhythm in relation to the positioning on the bench.
Thank you guys for this!
EXCELLENT info - thanks guys!
Two questions. On the first exercise on the bench with the plate and the arm straight, how many reps and sets should I do? As an exerciser that does front raises, I didn’t really feel much on that one. And lastly, when are these supposed to start making a difference? I’m on the incline bench right now. Just did these for the first time, and I can’t tell a difference in my incline bench shoulder pain. I know one day isn’t going to do it, but how hard should I hit it, ya know?
Done this first exercise with my non injured shoulder and now i have injured it whilst doing this exercise. Not great when your already having a surgery on the bad side👍
Found out its a rotar cuff tear and will need surgery
I heard another guy also injured doing first exercise...i wanna slap these idiots
@@rodi2641 how tf you gonna tear your fucking rotator cuff with a 5 lb weight slowly moving it around over your head lmao. 🤡
Hanging on a pull up bar relaxed has helped me a lot!
same.
Interesting I tore it doing a set of 25 rep pullups
@@zzaher91 if you’re just hanging there it stretches a torn slap but yes you can tear it pulling up apparently doing dips to low as well. I have to get surgery because the Cortizone shot didn’t help and it’s a hard risky surgery apparently. 😱
@@andresdelatorre4275 Tbh I don't think it ever will be 100%. I'm hoping not but it's been almost a year. I will say though, strengthening the muscles around it helps significantly, however I always need to mindful of it when working out, which we should anyway. Recently I was hitting golf balls lol and swong pretty hard and it slightly tore again and was sore for a few days. But when it was at it's worst when it was first torn I'd say it took close to a month. I was lazy about stretching and exercising cause I was disappointed at the situation but I'm sure you be ready to get at it again with consistent stretching/treatment in less time. Hope that clears things for you, just take a break from training and stretch it everyday, be mindful of the position you put it in even in daily tasks and avoid heavy lifting in that arm, maybe go on walks to stay active if exercise was important to you.
@@braxtondavis3815 wow i am in the exact same position as you, surgery was 1.5 years ago. Agreed warm up is super important. I also dont think i will be 100% ,
I am suffering with partial ACL tear since 2 years but have knee stablity. Is PRP or BOne Marrow injections will benifit to me?
I just got results What is a posterior chondrolabral seperation
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After doing range of motion, and shoulder strengthening, when might someone return to say playing tennis? How many weeks would be needed in general, understanding individual variations. Does the tear ever heal? If not, again, how long does one wait to return to tennis, without, hopefully, risking additional injury? Thank you
I am in the same position as you. I play tennis and had a slap tear last year, only now I think i am at 75%.. but the shoulder hurts when I serve, but now with ground strokes. I think we will have to hit the gym and strengthen our shoulders and give it time. This is like an achilles heel injury, it will take time.
Gary Gill did you ever find relief from PT with a SLAP tear? I have the same tear and basically cannot play tennis without hurting for the next few days after a hitting session.
@@benjaminbethards8733 hi you recover your injury or not tell please
@@JattBrand-bn1cl I did, yeah. A labrum tear doesn’t ever heal, but you can strengthen the muscles around it to support it and move your shoulder into a better position. I recommend the thrower’s 10 routine. I can play tennis most days without aggravating it, and have been able to start bench pressing again.
Can anyone plz tell me......does the bankart lesion or labrum tear heal overtime ?????? Or surgery is necessary????
You’d have to get surgery for a labral tear. The tear itself won’t heal but with exercises like in the video, you can help strengthen the muscles around the labrum and they help with mobility, pain, and will stop it from dislocating as often
How many reps on laying down exercise??
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Ok so i think ive only got the start of the slap tear happening , so should i rest for awhile untill pain goes and then slowly start trying these exercises
Is it bad to workout with a slap tear? Clearly its not the best thing to do for your shoulder BUT what are the side effects working out with it
For a year or two untreated? once its torn its simply torn so if you weight lift 3 to 4 days a week what can happen to your shoulderm
I’m a bit late to this, but weightlifting isn’t necessarily a bad thing to do. I’ve been dealing with labrum tears for the past 7 years or so and doing pt for those tears. My physical therapist said just be careful with primarily bench and overhead movements. On bench you may not want to go all the way down with the bar. However, as long as you are careful and continue to do exercises like the ones listed in the video, you should be fine
You’re more prone to a frozen shoulder. Adhesive capsulitis.
Mr arthrogram krbane pr mera grede 1ka slep h kya bina surgery sahii ho jayega plz reply
Can I do these exercises ( I have a little tear in my bicep) ?thank you
Can I do these exercises, I have superior laberel tear shoulder. Dr pls reply
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Hi Dr. David I just get results from MRI is slap tear 1...i play tennis... So if I do excise how long it takes me to recovery?
PT doesnt help to heal the labrum right?
It does not, not the tear itself, but it brings back mobility, removes pain and make muscles around it take over
How many times a week can you do this? As in if you do this every day for 3 sets is that bad or best?
I’ve been dealing with torn labrums for a while, but you should shoot for doing it just about everyday. I personally do about 3 sets of my own workout. Just enough to feel it in that rotator cuff
Hi doctor ,I am a badminton athlete and I have a level 1 slap tear which is small ,can it be healed with in 20 to 25 days perfectly cause I have to go for a tournament or should I rest ? Please suggest me as soon as possible.
Thank you
I got a labral tear too from badminton. May I know how are you coping right now after PT?
Please avoid playing if you u want stable this. I m also victim of the same problem and play badminton during injury now I suffered major problem. Take rest and do rehabilitation exercise its better to survive.
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@@Han9509 i saw your comments almost everywhere. bro it been a year. so how u feel right now ?
did you all recover ?
@@tarikonursimsek I guess I am fine now but I wouldnt say a 100%. I went for the surgery for info.
Doc any advice for swimmingly freestyle with SLAP tear? I’m 47 triathlete and would like to continue swimming if possible.
I’m by no means a doctor, but from my experience of doing pt for my torn labrums over the past 7 or so years doing those rotator cuff/ shoulder exercises will be the most beneficial to continuing that. Those muscles surrounding your shoulder will help relieve a lot of pressure from a torn labrum
Anyone else on here because they have no health insurance? Anyone?
Dumb question but who would I go to to get my shoulder looked at?
A physiotherapist
@@bhavygothwal7995 nope an orthopedic surgeon
hi I am suffering from SLAP TEAR in MRI "fluid SIGNAL INTENSITY IS NOTED WITHIN LABRAL SUBSTANCE IN ITS INTERIOR & SUPERIOR ASPECT- SUPERIOR LABRAL TEAR (SLAP LESSION)" Can its heal without surgery and how much time takes
Tears to tendons and ligaments never heal without surgery. You can potentially strengthen the surrounding muscles to increase function of the joint.
Dont do the first exercise if youve had a dislocation. That is exactly how I dislocated mine
gportech oh my god , while doing heavy weights during sets??
gportech how much weight were you using? Rehab exercises need to be done light and carefully. Iv had multiple dislocations. Torn Supraspinatus and labrum tear at the moment. Pain is your guide. Go as far as you can go without pain and reverse the movement. Easy concept but a lot of people end up pushing themselves too much and injuries themselves even further. Im able to do the first exercise with 2 lbs slowly no shoulder slippage
@@jeffreyquinonez8964 hi jeffrey please send your mail id or anything else which i can use to contact you🙏
I hate surgery. Im still rehabbing a tornlabrum and Supraspinatus. Its been two months and i can walk around without holding my right arm in pain lol. I still can’t weightlift i hope it can heal enough to where i can put up some halfway decent weight again. I miss working out
Sir kindly help me to rehab my slap 2 tear
hi I am suffering from SLAP TEAR in MRI "fluid SIGNAL INTENSITY IS NOTED WITHIN LABRAL SUBSTANCE IN ITS INTERIOR & SUPERIOR ASPECT- SUPERIOR LABRAL TEAR (SLAP LESSION)" Can its heal without surgery and how much time takes
I have the same problem jeffrey, please help me
Hey and thanks so much for the video. I have this slap tear and biceps tendinitis since 2 weeks and its very painful. I need to be first painless before i can do the exercises or it is good to become painless? Thanks so much :-)
Hey Daniel! Did you end up doing the exercises when there was slight pain or did you wait till there was no pain? Thanks!
@@codycarnes3535 hey man, idk if you’re having the same issues as the guy above, but if you have a torn labrum, it’s probably best to wait for you to not feel the pain before doing the exercises. When your labrum is in pain there may be some inflammation in that area which would increase the chances of the shoulder coming out of socket. Furthermore, it’s best not to irritate something that’s already aggravated. If you have constant pain, then I’d recommend doing more range of motion stuff then adding in more resistance training for your shoulder. Btw I’m by no means a doctor, but I have been doing physical therapy for my shoulders for about 7 years and have learned a lot from that. So I hope it helps
If trent reznor had a SLAP tear
Haha !
Sir I have slap tear on my shoulder.
I think I injured my shoulder every time I lift I feel a grinding pop sensation
My small tear hurts so bad even with these basic exercises. 😞
@Alex Delacruz search for Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization Technique (specifically 3 months prone position). You should ideally find a physical therapist trained in this DNS system to help you with all the little technique details you might miss if you learn from youtube. It helped my torn should labrum! I'm just killing time on youtube. :)
@@davidcondit388 Thank you David. I will research the techniques now and start tomorrow as I haven't been able to do upper body over 2 months now. Appreciated.
Alex Delacruz Sorry to hear that, have you tried H.B.O.T?
@@davidcondit388 hey David, I’m so glad I found a positive comment on a torn labrum. Was it a full tear in your case? Based on the MRI, it states that I have a tear on the posterior inferior inferior labrum from 8:00 to 10:00 which I’m guessing means that it is a partial tear?
@@alexdelacruz3543 yeah David is definitely right. Those little small things a therapist could help with would be a tremendous help. In my experience after tearing both labrums 3 times, doing some form of rotator cuff exercises will help a lot with the pain. I personally recommend doing them everyday or every other day
Slap tear recovery from physiotherapy ?
Don't know but I m getting it