Never trust anyone with your children never ever , especially a stranger or a person you just meet. I never let my children out of my sight when they were kids , no matter where I went my eyes were always on them , and I wasn't the type of mother you wanted to cross . This is exactly why you don't invite strangers into your home , you can barely trust people you know .
Dira Diana -well put love, I was the most suspicious mama bear, always super observant and not even god would be able to help any predator that dare come within breathing space of mine!! No corner of the earth would e safe for anyone that dare cross me either and rightly so!
Damn right,just unbelievable these people into their lives and homes I won’t even allow someone to watch my dog if I don’t know them well let alone my children
I had 6 adopted 5 and they dont speak to me tiday because i kept them toooo close whh. Im hurt but they were always safe n alive tiday with families of their own and do the same as i did toooo them.
Imagine welcoming a new couple to the neighborhood by inviting them to a home cooked dinner and they repay you by murdering you and your child. Absolutely disgusting. The young girl who was found with the carnival tickets in her pockets really broke my heart, how can the human mind even think of something so evil? Execution was too good for him!
It's not the human mind...more like the dark entity taking over the human mind. That's why they usually have a blank stare or nothing in their eyes. Some have really big crazy eyes. We are spiritual beings first.
I really don't believe they are human ..... they are fallen angels amongst us aka as demons. They are not real humans and they don't have empathy or human emotions💯
@@li5322 No doubt. The interesting part is they are both Scorpios. Which deals with the underworld. This sign also has the ability to easily be taken over by demons or dark entities/spirits.
Got caught multiple times for sexual assault, including the rape of minors. And yet they let him go time after time. American justice system right here for ya.
That has never sat well with me. I have seen so so many of these where sex offenders and rapists. murderers etc serve min time and officials think that have been rehabilitated and therefore they are released
I dated/knew a guy for a yr. I had gone to his home, seen his D.L. and knew where he worked. He offered to take myn16 yr. old son shoe shopping for his b-day and I had to decline. That 6'1 man child is still my baby boy and nothing is more important than his safety.. This mom was wrong..
That was a huge huge huge mistake. No way on this beautiful green earth would I let me kid go away with a stranger. The man was a stranger, not two ways around it. What kind of sweet nothings did he whisper to her? Unreal.
@@JustinDAMusic I grew up in the 80's yes it was a different time but to other things like playing outside with the neighborhood kids and things like that,, but NOT a different time as to mothers letting their daughters go off with adult strangers. This mom made a terrible mistake.
@@JustinDAMusic I was an 80's kid and I can acknowledge that my mom was way less leery of people than I am today. However, neighbors were closer and strangers were noticed. This guy was too new to be trusted that fully, bc pedophiles and creepy folk have been known to exist since forever.
So. HE was executed and SHE got life FOR THE EXACT SAME CRIMES! Where's the justice in that? She's as guilty as him, therefore should be treated the same.
I totally agree but what saved Debra Brown was that she was actually in and out of psycho wards and had a low IQ since she was a child that labeled her as having an intellectual development disorder. That is the only reason they did not give her the death penalty as well and it wasn't until years later that she actually understood what she did was wrong and how she was committing cries with a monster like Alton Coleman. But I am glad they put her in prison instead of some mental institution, where she would have more freedom and can be evaluated every so many years and be eligible to be released back in the free world.
@@msbamabasketball4436 Actually, Debra _did_ get a death sentence in IN. But she's serving out her life sentence in another state. Should the charges ever be dropped, which is highly unlikely, she will then be taken to IN for her death sentence.
He was her mum’s boyfriend I think her guard was down because she was in a relationship with this guy the online reports state they had been together for about a month or two so it’s probably why she was slightly more trusting of him
Levii Proctor I agree completely but I guess it was a different time I mean look at it a lot of the victims let them inside their house and what not but I mean I would have contacted the police within two-three hours of them not returning I wouldn’t have waited till midnight
Not that I don't agree about being too trusting, but it was 1984. Different time. Not that it makes it right, but lets not act like we all know exactly what the mother was thinking.
I remember this ... it was terrifying for many in the Black community. We were not allowed to play outside or go anywhere without adult supervision. Everyone was thankful when they were finally caught.
I can remember them like yesterday! I was 7yrs old and the thought of them killing black kids like myself was a nightmare! We kids wanted to kill them if we ever came across them!
It was still daylight in the reenactment but I agree. Add the fact that he said they'd be back in an hour would've been a hard no. How far away do u live? bro. But I also have to keep in mind that this was the 80s when we weren't fully conscious of the monsters among as. With all his prior how was he out walking the street?
Imagine the absolute terror and horror that poor Vernita must have experienced in the final moments of ber life. That hell like scrap yard. Dark alone tortured by a devil.
Some people are just devil's incarnates. A family that took them in and showed them such hospitality yet they murdered a mother and her daughter for no just cause. That's absolute evil and heartlessness.
@@jaydubbs8277 It depends on the jail/prison. In some, inmates that commit crimes against children get handled and in others, they don't get "touched" because it's so many of them that they basically hang around each other.
I see many people are criticising the mum who let her child go with Coleman, she is paying the ultimate price. I feel sorry for her, as she has to live with this guilt over and over again.
For the sake of arguing the Mom's to let daughter go with monster. Like all the rest they didn't know that they were monsters.. I know but still. Sometimes things could be missing from your life the out come gold tongued bastard. She and her daughter trusted him by now. He never made them feel uncomfortable. I would have said Hell No because she was a girl. But shit happens. I know terrible things happened to me and my child one year after exposing who he really was mistakenly, I left him immediately but it left stuff that I have to live the rest of my life with. It took me two years to get that bastard sentence. And I had to do this myself because law said no evidence. I I sweet talked that demon right into a 5 to 10 years and 8 to ten years sentence. He served 5 yrs 7mos and couldn't come back to my town. He's dead.. and I did not do it. But I did kill this beast over and over in my mind. This shitbis forever y'all. Try some empathy with mom. Trust is not a bad word. It's what others do with your trust that turns the situation into a life or death without the innocent even knowing . My heart goes out to all his victims and family
The Guilt is own those two monsters. Please don't contribute to this Mom's devastating loss of her child. It seemed okay to her and the daughter and me.. un th il we find out that he is not even human but looks it. No Guilt Mom ❤❤
Many say that how could the mother let her child be with him but he would have killed her child anyway sooner or later at another time. it was already too late,
She deserves to feel guilt for the rest of her miserable life. What mother would ever let her 9 year old daughter walk around at night with a complete stranger?!?!? (a grown man) I wouldn’t even let my daughter roam around at night with her uncle for god sakes! The mother should be arrested for handing her daughter over to a complete stranger!
the woman who invited these monsters for dinner was too good for the world. She was such a good, friendly soul, inviting two strangers for dinner, but she was naive in the goodness of her own heart. May she and her beautiful daughter, and all the other beautiful souls these monsters have hurt, rest in peace
Righteous glories everywhere. Righteous beyondvmeasure. And totally wondrous infinitely. Except for the atrocious criminals! O my! The atrocious criminals must die!!! Horribly!! Blessed be the righteous glories who caressed and arrested these criminals!!! In connection to the true facts of this life! Addressed here!!
He got the east way out believe it or not, prison ain’t no place for a woman who killed kids because she wanted to keep a man and thought it was fun. The torture alone is gonna make her wish she’d gotten his punishment.
No way on this planet would I let my daughter or son leave with someone, rather I know them or not. I just do not trust people freely like that because most children are harmed by someone they know or family. If he had a present then he can either walk to get it on his own or give it another time. But there's no way my child would go with you, no matter how much he pressed to let her. The excessive begging and pressuring for the child to go alone would have made me super suspicious to what his intentions might be. And I would have ended whatever friendship or relationship right there, I would also make sure my child knew never to trust this guy in case he came back another day.
I would punish murderers with exactly same kind of torture and death they did to victims, and publicly. Then every wannabe murderer would not only think twice about murdering but also how he does it and why.
Some have been sentenced to do so, like one serial killer in Pakistan, but he was so scared of being treated the same that he hanged himself in his cell.
The problem with that is, there will always be cases of people being wrongly convicted. And even if just one innocent person is brutally and painfully executed, it isn't right.
hate to burst your bubble but it costs more money to put someone to death did someone forget the appeals process 14 and all not to mention appealing for clemency
the reason why they use lethal injection is that it's the most "humane" way to kill someone. If the states start using firing squads again I feel there will be an uproar and protest against it the manufacturers of the lethal injections are refusing to make the injections again because they don't believe that it's the most humane way to kill someone the process can be horrifying when it's not done right
@@mattjohnson8090 I was thinking the same thing. This wasn't yesterday, it was in much simpler times. Not to mention, I'm positive that this mother beats herself up every day over this. This poor woman has been living in Hell ever since 1984..... Our criticism is nothing compared to the self hating this mother does to herself.
My own mom never learned that, unfortunately. Me, my sister, and my brother were all subject to sickos because mom couldn't stand being alone for a while. Youngest sister was taken from mom at birth, so I never met her. Thankfully, she's never had to experience that kind of hell. My own kids go nowhere but school without either me or their father and I'm a bit of a helicopter parent now.
Some of these cases could've been prevented if people were not so careless and stupid. As a Mother who's raised 3 daughters, my life as a Mother and my life as a woman never coincided. I never allowed anyone I was seeing to meet my daughters. Definitely would never allow them to go off alone. Anyone that is that deeply interested in your kids, needs to go immediately. He would've seen the barrel of my gun. Period.
@@francescawilliams8177 This program is obviously old, so that makes sense for most of their episodes to be about killers from the 70s and 80s, but there are plenty of recent serial killers who just aren't far enough back in memory to have a documentary about them yet.
@Ash 80s 70s 60s what ever you don't do that ,,,, I'm old School raised in the 70s would never do something like that first thing I'd do would be contact POLICE !!
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@@tytiajones4425 that’s 💯% correct!!!! There is NO way I would ever intrust my baby with a complete 🤬 stranger. She met this devil while he was riding on a bike 🚲 in the neighborhood not a car but a damn bike!!! She couldn’t even give the police a license plate number to track this wicked bastard down. If I’ve never been over your house my child certainly isn’t going over there either. Mom exercised such horrible judgement by letting Vernita go off with that man. It’s so sad that she didn’t go with her first thought and stood by decision to deny her daughter from going. And all for a gift…and he ultimately took her most precious gift away from her😔 RIH baby girl 💖
@@jazzy5975 There has never been a time when a loving mother would allow her child to go off in the company of some random stranger. An immutable obligation of parenthood is to protect the child from knowable and predictable danger…you know, STRANGER DANGER!
Right, then she waited until midnight to get worried. I don’t understand, that’s a little girl even if that was your husband, what is he doing gone with your child to a house you’ve never seen nor been for hours. That’s a little girl, what could they have possibly been doing that long and he barely knows any of you. That was naive for me I’m sorry.
I have met many women who have children and got to see their children after a month or two. it often happens more than you think. let's say she lets him see her child after six months or even a year. this would happen anyway because the man she has met is a psychopath who kills.
it is a mystery some get a thrill from it be with the bad boy smitten by them fell in love.(Aint that romantic i say sarcastically) abuse does play into it but sorta like leader and follower complex. It goes back to bonney and clyde in the 30s. modern times karla homalka and paul bernardo sick couple when you read the case. Gerald and Charlene Gallego also in the 70s 80s. loyalty to ones lover strong bond.
When the officer followed the cab with the suspect in it, near the beginning of the video, they could have caught him then if the officer hadn't gone to arrest him. All he had to do was to call it in and tell them that the suspect was at his sister's house. Job done.
@@joywalker4918 there is no such thing as "different times".....dangerous men are always lurking around the kids.....she just made several bad decisions.....
@Richard Davis yeah that was a pretty stupid thing to say, it doesn't matter if it was a different time, that doesn't make pure ignorance more acceptable.
After mother realises she let a NEW male friend take her daughter in the evening for a WHOLE hour. Narrator: Not knowing where else to turn to (the mother) turned to her friend for help, concerned for the safety OF HER FRIENDS daughter (the FRIEND) decided it was time to call the police!!! Now Please explain HOW is your friend MORE helpful than the police especially when the guy is YOUR friend NOT hers! And secondly HOW is YOUR friend more concerned about your daughter than you???
she truly did not think that she would loose her baby girl ,i think she was in doubt and disbelief ,she needed to consult someone she trusted first before it dawned on her .poor her
His sister allowed him around her child? I can't imagine what the 9 yr old went through the last few minutes of her life. And for him to do that and than walk around like it's nothing is a pure evil I hope I never run into.
I remember when this happemed. Men quit jeri curling their hair they wereafraid they'd get miataken for Coleman. I live north of Cincinnati and everyone was on alert
I'm a Dad, my daughter is everything to me I cannot imagine what that poor lady went through and is probably going through today. One bad choice can and will change everything
I would never ever even introduce my child to a man I'm dating for a month, if I'm a single mom. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child wandering off with a complete stranger. I feel so bad about what happened to that poor little girls. It's too bad that she trusted a monster with her daughter. I can feel her guilt.
@@earvetta Not even then. No wonder molestation rates are high from parents' partners. It's mostly performed by someone closest to you. Therefore, you ALWAYS have to be careful. Not live in fear, just don't leave them alone together. No days off in protecting the young ones.
@@AN-fg4cd I agree I have never let my children be alone with a man after my divorce. If we went on trips it was a family trip. I never let a man move in or spend the night with my children home. That was one of the first thing that was made clear when we started dating. A look so Sunday was strictly for my 3 children if they wanted to join us that was fine. In dating you as the parents have set rules laws that will protect your children and yourself. If a individual don't like it they can keep stepping.
I can only imagine how those mothers feel. The one who let her daughter leave with a monster. And the thought process of the one who realized she let monsters in her home. I myself am not that friendly but I can sympathize. Monsters like these will always try to find a way
I find it weird that she would not just have strangers for dinner, but then to let my kids cudle on a couch to watch tv with them and then let them decide it was bed time and put my children to bed. I just don't understand???
@@joshuaferrell384 but it somewhat was though if they managed to kill the daughter and mother without the other two boys knowing. Unless they just told them to go to bed
yea my thoughts exactly who even invites someone you just met over for dinner this stuff is not adding up. Most of these people they killed they knew less than 24 hours so drugs or sex had to be involved
I don't blame the older brother for not wanting to answer the door even though it was his grandmother he wasn't so trustworthy of anyone as others were and he was protecting he himself and his younger brother who was found hiding in the corner so he did the right as far as not opening up that screen door to begin with until the authorities showed up sooo
Agreed for all he knew they might have been hiding around the corner and forcing the grandmother to try to get her grandson to open the door and then they'd all be killed. I don't blame him one little bit and I hope he and his little brother were able to get some therapy to help them cope with this nightmare
Yeah. The mother of that little boy was so smart when it comes to strange people she lets in to he house - maybe that wizdom was learned from grandmom... Damn it must be tough shit to live in america....
I’m convinced Alton only got away with these crimes because he knew how to align himself with slow individuals and I mean sloooooooooow! This guy could not have been so successful in getting victims if people had better critical thinking skills and set boundaries for safety.
He was riding a bike, they met and 1 month later she lets this man take her daughter.....WOW! women make foolish decisions and the outcome is always tragic....RIP little girl....
It turns out he was her mum’s boyfriend in the actual case file online it states that he was her boyfriend I guess that’s why she was more trusting of this guy
kathy kay Yes, she made a very foolish and tragic mistake. But people should be very aware of the prowess of some predators. They can be extremely convincing as being full of integrity. This doesn’t excuse her severe lapse of judgment, though; he played on her weaknesses. Predators can be eerily attuned to their prey’s vulnerabilities. It does boggle me that anyone would be so reckless with their very own offspring.
Dan Berkey well in all honesty everyone in this video was extremely trusting of these two individuals I think it just goes back to the time period where people were less fearful and more trusting I mean everyone in this video should of had their guards up and they didn’t so it goes to show how convincing people can be
Yeah, I just can't even put myself in that state of mind, killing people for no reason. If I was going to kill someone, they would have to have done something absolutely wicked to me or my family, or it would have to be self defense.
I would have locked myself in the house and wouldn’t open the door for anyone! And if I had kids at the time oh man they would have damn sure been stuck with me in the house and I wouldn’t have take my eyes off of them.
I have never trusted my daughter's with any man. Including their father's... why you ask? Because I don't know and can't control what another person does. I can only pray and be cautious for their safety and mine.
If the only reason you have for not trusting the father of your children with his own children is your lack of control..you really should seek counseling
Amazes me how parents let childten wander off with " new friends" they know so little about .60 years ago in GB my. Parents would never have considered such a thing
@@miradjukic5045 yeah so many folks on here acting as if they're better than the mother. It could happen to anyone of us. Partners, family members, friends. Anyone of them can be monsters.
@@sarahjohnston3325 the moral to this story is don’t let anyone around your kids without you being there. My kids are home 24/7 my husband and I work opposite shifts when our kids see family they are monitored by us. Every parent needs to be this way with their prized possessions. You can’t trust anyone so I’m not sure something like this would happen to responsible parents.
@@sarahjohnston3325 ur comment is ridiculous.... U should have common sense not to let ur child go with any man especially only knowing them for a month... The mother was very careless.....
9:22 - It's easy to monday-morning quarterback these old stories but I can't figure out how the Kenosha cops let Alton get away from them in the 1st place?
My heart broke for Vernita, her mom just let her go with this man they had only known for a few weeks. I won’t even let my son go with his own dad/sperm donor bc he’s been absent for almost 16 months and he’s a stranger to my son, so I told him he is welcome to see my son but I will also be there. I damn sure wouldn’t allow someone I barely know to take my child!!! The only people who have taken my son without me around are close family and friends that I have been close to for years and I know I can trust. I don’t even care if I was dating someone for a month and talked to them everyday and had been around them a lot in the time I damn sure wouldn’t let them even take him on a quick run to the store!!
There's something to be said about a woman who lay down with a stranger ("sperm donor") and have a baby with him then come on social media saying you don't trust him. A real woman NEVER lay down with a stranger. A real women lay down with a FRIEND, A TRUSTING PARTNER.
@@sistersofthemaccabees2497 where did u read that she laid down with a stranger ? As for the (sperm donor) that could be called to a man that you've known for 20yrs.. Married to, but baby people break up and the man might not be doing his duties as a dad for the last 16 months and he becomes a SPERM DONOR 🤷😤😳
Wow this post is dysfunctional as hell 16 months which means the kid is almost a year and a half right? How long does the kid have to be with HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER and YOU PRESENT for you to idk what TRUST EM?!!!
@@marywashington9995 Honestly I think cases like the one of Fritzl teach us that parenthood doesn't mean shit and why on earth would he want to be alone with the child anyway? I could understand the anger if the child was 9 and the father couldn't go get ice cream with them but even then, the mother is supposed to protect her child and that's exactly what she is doing by being present when the father visits. Especially young or first time mothers are extremely careful when it comes to their children and they are to be respected.
@Diamond Leigh Calm down maybe? You just watched a video full of reasons why you should be vary of people spending time with your children and still attack people who do exactly that. I'm 100% with the original comment.
*Don't allow your children to go with stranger - you don't really know a person until you have lived with them for at least 5 years. Why would the courts, police and any other law entity let a sexual predator out of jail? 5,000 for a reward involving a child is an insult. They did every last one of his victims a disservice. STOP allowing your kids to walk alone, and furthermore, TEACH them NOT to go with strangers. Don't allow new people into your house!!! The police didn't even do a good job checking Alton for weapons. The relatives of the victims should sue the state of Illinois for letting that BASTARD out of jail. That silly NO good woman wanted to take full responsibility for the killings and tape so that Alton can commit more rapes and murder.*
@da King of Mines, I saw earlier today that all kinds of things are happening to politicians in the Chicago area in these last few days: It seems possible there will be a huge clean up of the corruption which has plagued much of Illinois. I sure hope so; a lot of good people in the state.
though this happened a long time ago, i'm still shocked how children can't walk the streets alone in the US. I live in Kosovo and i started walking alone to school at 5 years old. kind of shocking too see how its so different there.
The age of social media has people confused. If you didn't grow up during this time you don't know the environment of individual towns and cities in that were in existence throughout this country. This couple's crime spree changed our childhood in Ohio. Before them we didn't worry about these issues.
I grew up in the 70s in the village of Harlem.Most of us in that area knew each other, or if we didn’t know you then someone we knew had to know you, in order for us to trust you. So even back then there was an air of suspicion towards someone you did not know. until you spent time with them or someone you knew well could vouch for them,you held that person at arms length
@cheri collier. I grew up in the seventies and eighties and we were out playing most of the day without adult supervision. However, we stayed together in large groups and knew we shouldn’t wander off alone. Plus in the U.K. people knew there were evil people around. Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, the Moors Murderers, we’re well known. I suppose most of us were safe because there weren’t safer recruitment practices then. Peadophiles were allowed to work in children’s homes, scouts and guides and churches, so sadly they had access to children.
What about the ones that don't know the difference between there, their and they're? Or ad and add? Or use the word literally wrong? Or who think they are sounding smart when they use conversate instead of converse? Or who don't know to drop an e before adding i-n-g? Or who think paid is spelled payed? That's the short list.
And this is exactly why parents should always tell their kids regularly, to never, ever talk to strangers. And single mom's, please, be aware you are always an easy target for evil people.
Im surprised the cop didn't wait for him to go into his sisters house and get back up befote they tried to arrest him.... of course he took off when he saw the cop!
If you mean wood chipper your right feet first then spin the wheel backwards so he comes out with destroyed legs and repeat by putting his body in a little more each time.
my old boss at a childcare center would leave her two young daughters age 7 and 10 alone with a men she had met less than two weeks ago. I was always so crazy worried about these girls, that I love dearly. She went on to marry that man and now she's been married to him for over a year and strangely she doesn't leave the children alone with him anymore, even preferring them to be out in the city on their own in the middle of the night while she's at a "reunion". A good friend of mine is a divorced mama and her two girls only met the new man in her life after 6 months of dating, when she was sure that it was serious between them. And they met at a playground, it took another while before she would bring him home, and they were together for over a year before he was alone with her girls. Not because she didn't trust him, but because she's a mama first and foremost and she didn't want her children to be with someone they would have to loose if it didn't work out, so she wanted to be really rational and sure about it. my children are never in a location that I don't know
As an adult man, i always try not to be in the company of kids. We live in a time, where its easy for people to point fingers and get a bad impression. Better stay away and happy.
WHAT JUSTICE SYSTEM 😡😡 These kind of people should never have been allowed to live in society ever again! I bet they wouldn’t be if it was a judge’s family member 😡
Is it me or were people more trustworthy back in the 80’s. Another single parent who allowed strangers into your home and allowed them to stay for dinner. Plus they were playing with your 8 and 3 year old along with the oldest daughter. And she didn’t think it to be strange
Indeed.. i remember in the 80s, I went to climb tree, went to the neighbour, play at nearby pond... My aunt look after me but I was allowed to run free. In the 80s people more trustworthy.
I dont understand HOW the Mother could let her little girl go with a stranger..no, its just wrong. Any strange man showing interest in a young child has to be suspect.
i grew up in Waukegan during the time this was going on, and all I can say is that it was a different time back then. I know I was in the single digits and I could be outside playing but had to be back inside when the street lights came on. Ps I moved to Kenosha during middle school so for me, this episode hit super close to home....
Hey Amelia! This is your mom here. Fancy running into you! Don't know if I ever told you, but I remember A Coleman. When he took that little girl us parents were super scared.x
I knew Alton Coleman for years used to show up to our shows at the Oasis steel top hat Lounge it's so strange to know someone and and never have an idea who they really are
That would be the day where two adults I didn't know playing with my children in the front yard I am going to invite in for dinner. That's crazy, as soon as I saw them I'd tell my kids to come in.
I'm so glad that they. Caught both of these monster's they we're definitely ruthless and evil with full of rage and hate I remember when this happened R.I.P to all the victims and their families as we'll!
I remember watching this when it originally aired. So illogical. You don't to go to prison for so you go on a killing spree? I was shocked that a mother would be so trusting with this stranger around her child. We teach our children to not talk to strangers. There's a good reason for that warning.
I don’t understand why the mom was so trusting with letting a man she barely knew take her daughter. People always say “you’ve been with your husband for over 20 years”. Idgaf I have sons and I would never let some random man take my kids anywhere. What could possibly be going through her head😤😤
I remember this case very well. I lived in Detroit and we always hung out at my aunts house. It was the summer time and we were sitting on the front porch. Someone saw my cousins boyfriend and called the police because they thought he was Alton Coleman the only resemblance was the jerry curl hair because he was a much older man.
Never trust anyone with your children never ever , especially a stranger or a person you just meet.
I never let my children out of my sight when they were kids , no matter where I went my eyes were always on them , and I wasn't the type of mother you wanted to cross .
This is exactly why you don't invite strangers into your home , you can barely trust people you know .
That's the way it should be!
Dira Diana -well put love, I was the most suspicious mama bear, always super observant and not even god would be able to help any predator that dare come within breathing space of mine!! No corner of the earth would e safe for anyone that dare cross me either and rightly so!
Damn right,just unbelievable these people into their lives and homes I won’t even allow someone to watch my dog if I don’t know them well let alone my children
I had 6 adopted 5 and they dont speak to me tiday because i kept them toooo close whh. Im hurt but they were always safe n alive tiday with families of their own and do the same as i did toooo them.
Especially when the new person you just met would be identified as a creep by anyone else
This guy probably struck up a friendship with the mother to get at the child. Most kids are taken by people known to them and the family.
Yip the “Nice Guy” tactic.
Thank you, exactly. It could have been anyone. The comment section is so full of judgements.
PROBABLY?...THAT'S WHAT HE DID
Very true. This is why some women with young children do not date. It is sad.
I agree but, in this case, she really didn't kno the dude at all. Smh.
The fact that he befriended your child should have been a huge red flag! WTF!!!! He preyed on your child!
Yes, it was strange how she trusted him after only 1 month 😕
This wasn't the norm, back in the 80s and single mother's I am sure it was hard!
preyed on her child .. her BABY GIRL at that ! 😪💔 how sick are these people??
Same thing I said ...run there is a big pblm
@@cozy4sh these sick men are at the show "to catch a predator". These men are taught to love little little girls.
Imagine welcoming a new couple to the neighborhood by inviting them to a home cooked dinner and they repay you by murdering you and your child. Absolutely disgusting. The young girl who was found with the carnival tickets in her pockets really broke my heart, how can the human mind even think of something so evil? Execution was too good for him!
Human beings can be wicked.
@@lavenderflowers1075 It's not the human mind...more like the dark entity taking over the human mind. We are spiritual beings first.
It's not the human mind...more like the dark entity taking over the human mind. That's why they usually have a blank stare or nothing in their eyes. Some have really big crazy eyes.
We are spiritual beings first.
I really don't believe they are human ..... they are fallen angels amongst us aka as demons. They are not real humans and they don't have empathy or human emotions💯
@@li5322 No doubt. The interesting part is they are both Scorpios. Which deals with the underworld. This sign also has the ability to easily be taken over by demons or dark entities/spirits.
Got caught multiple times for sexual assault, including the rape of minors. And yet they let him go time after time. American justice system right here for ya.
Right that’s the sick part they continuously let that monster walk free after raping children they give these kind of ppl so much lead way
There have been cases like that across the globe.
That has never sat well with me. I have seen so so many of these where sex offenders and rapists. murderers etc serve min time and officials think that have been rehabilitated and therefore they are released
Child rapists should be locked up for life.
Except ppl who look like Jeffrey Epstein get away with it. 1 in 12 kids in Europe are violated sexually for a reason. Nothing changed
What kind of mother let's her 9 year old daughter leave late at night with a man she barely knows? That was the first problem.
The mother must have been on crack, I don't think she really wanted her child. Such a stupid act on her part.
Exactly not knowing his intentions or anything I'm sorry wouldve been my child especially not late at night that's a red flag right there
the 70s and 80s was a different time.
@@raylee1197 If she didn't want her child, she wouldn't have bothered to report her missing.
The first problem was him being a monster
Gotta say that poor little boy who wouldn't even open up for grandma was so brave trying to protect his baby brother!
Riggggggght
I really don't understand why he didn't open the door for the grandma though....
@@jamesjustice8711 He was in shock and traumatized. Hard to trust anyone in that state of mind, my guess.
Wonder were are these people know
I dated/knew a guy for a yr. I had gone to his home, seen his D.L. and knew where he worked. He offered to take myn16 yr. old son shoe shopping for his b-day and I had to decline. That 6'1 man child is still my baby boy and nothing is more important than his safety.. This mom was wrong..
Knew the man only a month....I just don't get it...smdh
That was a huge huge huge mistake. No way on this beautiful green earth would I let me kid go away with a stranger. The man was a stranger, not two ways around it. What kind of sweet nothings did he whisper to her? Unreal.
This happened in 1984. The world was a different place back then.
@@JustinDAMusic I grew up in the 80's yes it was a different time but to other things like playing outside with the neighborhood kids and things like that,, but NOT a different time as to mothers letting their daughters go off with adult strangers. This mom made a terrible mistake.
@@JustinDAMusic I was an 80's kid and I can acknowledge that my mom was way less leery of people than I am today. However, neighbors were closer and strangers were noticed. This guy was too new to be trusted that fully, bc pedophiles and creepy folk have been known to exist since forever.
So. HE was executed and SHE got life FOR THE EXACT SAME CRIMES! Where's the justice in that? She's as guilty as him, therefore should be treated the same.
I totally agree but what saved Debra Brown was that she was actually in and out of psycho wards and had a low IQ since she was a child that labeled her as having an intellectual development disorder. That is the only reason they did not give her the death penalty as well and it wasn't until years later that she actually understood what she did was wrong and how she was committing cries with a monster like Alton Coleman. But I am glad they put her in prison instead of some mental institution, where she would have more freedom and can be evaluated every so many years and be eligible to be released back in the free world.
Feminists keep talking about "male privilege." I do not see male privilege in this case.
Well if she ever gets released she still has the death penalty to face in Indiana so either way it goes she will never get out.
@@msbamabasketball4436 Actually, Debra _did_ get a death sentence in IN. But she's serving out her life sentence in another state. Should the charges ever be dropped, which is highly unlikely, she will then be taken to IN for her death sentence.
Debra is in Dayton correctional in Ohio. She was what could be considered a model prisoner. She isn't going anywhere.
You never EVER let your child go anywhere with a total stranger. What the HELL was the mother thinking???
I know right. And then don't start looking for her til midnight? OMG 😲
Exactly
@@patriciahill4492 right
do it daily with teachers you never fully know the teachers
That’s the thing, she wasn’t thinking.
The cop should have called for backup and waited until he went into his sisters house... That was a big mistake he made
That was what I thought....Dumb as a peace of bread...
Right !
Yeah I was like don't don't don't, it was so obvious.
May be he was unclear of the suspect, yes should have let him go inside
Maybe that would have saved more lives.
Why TF would Juanita allow her 9 yr. old child go with a new man in her life and wtf would midnight be the 1st attempt at trying to find them?
Yeah. That makes zero sense to me.
He was her mum’s boyfriend I think her guard was down because she was in a relationship with this guy the online reports state they had been together for about a month or two so it’s probably why she was slightly more trusting of him
Levii Proctor I agree completely but I guess it was a different time I mean look at it a lot of the victims let them inside their house and what not but I mean I would have contacted the police within two-three hours of them not returning I wouldn’t have waited till midnight
Not that I don't agree about being too trusting, but it was 1984. Different time. Not that it makes it right, but lets not act like we all know exactly what the mother was thinking.
Mom was so wrong for allowing her daughter to go with a man PERIOD! Fuck a gift!
I remember this ... it was terrifying for many in the Black community. We were not allowed to play outside or go anywhere without adult supervision. Everyone was thankful when they were finally caught.
Scary
It was a very scary time, I lived in Gary, indiana during this killing spree and it was a terrifying time
yea finally
I can remember them like yesterday! I was 7yrs old and the thought of them killing black kids like myself was a nightmare! We kids wanted to kill them if we ever came across them!
Because of your people again
How on Earth do you let your child go with a stranger at night... she was just 9 for God sake
I often think about that. I also live in Kenosha Wisconsin not too far from Vernita's mom
@@skittlesrainbow4853 must've been nightmare for her and the community.
It was still daylight in the reenactment but I agree. Add the fact that he said they'd be back in an hour would've been a hard no. How far away do u live? bro. But I also have to keep in mind that this was the 80s when we weren't fully conscious of the monsters among as. With all his prior how was he out walking the street?
@@Chauna30 true fact
@@princealex2268 I can’t imagine the guilt this Mom had for all these years. 💔
It's incredibly upsetting when these things happen to kids. They shouldn't happen to anyone. But when it's kids I feel sicker and angrier.
Dude that cab driver just though it normal for a man and a little girl to go to a scrap yard at midnight? That sounds like the set up for a crime
Also the scrap yard worker no red flags at all
Exactly! I would’ve automatically became concerned. Red flags!
Ok that night guard didn’t find it alarming to see that! Little unimportant black girls…Both of them dropped the ball!
Yeah, I thought the same thing.
Imagine the absolute terror and horror that poor Vernita must have experienced in the final moments of ber life. That hell like scrap yard. Dark alone tortured by a devil.
Some people are just devil's incarnates. A family that took them in and showed them such hospitality yet they murdered a mother and her daughter for no just cause. That's absolute evil and heartlessness.
I can completely understand why child killers and pedophiles are tortured by other offenders in prison. The worst of the worst ☹️.
Now days they're protected in prison.
Willow R 🤦🏽♀️ smh
Totally agree.
thats a common misconception. theres so many pedophiles out there that nobody is doing anything to them.
@@jaydubbs8277 It depends on the jail/prison. In some, inmates that commit crimes against children get handled and in others, they don't get "touched" because it's so many of them that they basically hang around each other.
I see many people are criticising the mum who let her child go with Coleman, she is paying the ultimate price. I feel sorry for her, as she has to live with this guilt over and over again.
For the sake of arguing the Mom's to let daughter go with monster. Like all the rest they didn't know that they were monsters.. I know but still. Sometimes things could be missing from your life the out come gold tongued bastard. She and her daughter trusted him by now. He never made them feel uncomfortable. I would have said Hell No because she was a girl. But shit happens. I know terrible things happened to me and my child one year after exposing who he really was mistakenly, I left him immediately but it left stuff that I have to live the rest of my life with. It took me two years to get that bastard sentence. And I had to do this myself because law said no evidence. I I sweet talked that demon right into a 5 to 10 years and 8 to ten years sentence. He served 5 yrs 7mos and couldn't come back to my town. He's dead.. and I did not do it. But I did kill this beast over and over in my mind. This shitbis forever y'all. Try some empathy with mom. Trust is not a bad word. It's what others do with your trust that turns the situation into a life or death without the innocent even knowing . My heart goes out to all his victims and family
The Guilt is own those two monsters. Please don't contribute to this Mom's devastating loss of her child. It seemed okay to her and the daughter and me.. un th il we find out that he is not even human but looks it. No Guilt Mom ❤❤
Many say that how could the mother let her child be with him but he would have killed her child anyway sooner or later at another time. it was already too late,
She deserves to feel guilt for the rest of her miserable life. What mother would ever let her 9 year old daughter walk around at night with a complete stranger?!?!? (a grown man) I wouldn’t even let my daughter roam around at night with her uncle for god sakes! The mother should be arrested for handing her daughter over to a complete stranger!
Rightfully so. No excuses for the ignorance. Not in this case.
the woman who invited these monsters for dinner was too good for the world. She was such a good, friendly soul, inviting two strangers for dinner, but she was naive in the goodness of her own heart. May she and her beautiful daughter, and all the other beautiful souls these monsters have hurt, rest in peace
Yes!
Back in the days, you have people with that kind of trusting spirit, not any more in our world of today.
I remember when people would do that in the hood, but once crack hit, you learned not to let anyone in your home.
Agree i dont know english but what i understood is that always good people have to go first thats sad!God bless all of you
@@bearothacher4258 it call the late meal before hell
Righteous glories everywhere. Righteous beyondvmeasure. And totally wondrous infinitely. Except for the atrocious criminals! O my! The atrocious criminals must die!!!
Horribly!! Blessed be the righteous glories who caressed and arrested these criminals!!!
In connection to the true facts of this life! Addressed here!!
In Africa we have a saying there is no difference between a thief and a lookout the woman should have gotten the same punishment
Very wise, I love that phrase.
That's a good one it's true..
Agree with Africa.
He got the east way out believe it or not, prison ain’t no place for a woman who killed kids because she wanted to keep a man and thought it was fun. The torture alone is gonna make her wish she’d gotten his punishment.
Right!!
No way on this planet would I let my daughter or son leave with someone, rather I know them or not. I just do not trust people freely like that because most children are harmed by someone they know or family. If he had a present then he can either walk to get it on his own or give it another time. But there's no way my child would go with you, no matter how much he pressed to let her. The excessive begging and pressuring for the child to go alone would have made me super suspicious to what his intentions might be. And I would have ended whatever friendship or relationship right there, I would also make sure my child knew never to trust this guy in case he came back another day.
Amen. I agree
Her greed led to the girls death
You never let a grown man around your kids like what mother allow their daughter to go out with a grown man late at night like that is crazy.
Blows my mind how many chances the law gives u to keep committing crimes with kids America is beyond ridiculous
I would punish murderers with exactly same kind of torture and death they did to victims, and publicly. Then every wannabe murderer would not only think twice about murdering but also how he does it and why.
Some have been sentenced to do so, like one serial killer in Pakistan, but he was so scared of being treated the same that he hanged himself in his cell.
Only is there is tons of overwhelming evidence of their guilt. Then yes, they deserve even worse.
@@ihanakaunotar2741 Can you please tell me about this case from Pakistan ?
The problem with that is, there will always be cases of people being wrongly convicted. And even if just one innocent person is brutally and painfully executed, it isn't right.
The death penalty, so simple, staying in jail is tax money, money should be used for schools health ,
hate to burst your bubble but it costs more money to put someone to death did someone forget the appeals process 14 and all not to mention appealing for clemency
I say shoot em bullets are cheap, prison is too good for these kind of people!
It costs way more to kill someone so if money is your motivation you should favor abolishing it.
the reason why they use lethal injection is that it's the most "humane" way to kill someone. If the states start using firing squads again I feel there will be an uproar and protest against it the manufacturers of the lethal injections are refusing to make the injections again because they don't believe that it's the most humane way to kill someone the process can be horrifying when it's not done right
@@calisa1322 well these kind of criminals don’t deserve a humane death. Hell they didn’t give a humane death to their victims.
The Scrapyard worker wasn’t concerned enough to call the police?
Maybe he thought it was father and daughter?
@@alyssag.5758 a father and daughter at a scrap yard nah
Late at night something is wrong with that picture he should have called police just to to make sure of the girls safety
Well at least he said something about what he saw
Nope....
Letting your kids go off with a stranger WTF!!!!
Like seriously I know right some mothers like that have poor decisions
Right! She only knew him for a month. I have sons but I would never let my kids go off with somebody I don’t know. People are crazy.
@ oh wow you seem to no so much bout them peoples minds sure your not one of them😮
Remember it was 1984
@@mattjohnson8090 I was thinking the same thing. This wasn't yesterday, it was in much simpler times. Not to mention, I'm positive that this mother beats herself up every day over this. This poor woman has been living in Hell ever since 1984..... Our criticism is nothing compared to the self hating this mother does to herself.
If your a single mom and someone takes an interest in your child run 😥🙏🏾🙄💔
Run fast
for real
It's sexy ain't it???
My own mom never learned that, unfortunately. Me, my sister, and my brother were all subject to sickos because mom couldn't stand being alone for a while. Youngest sister was taken from mom at birth, so I never met her. Thankfully, she's never had to experience that kind of hell. My own kids go nowhere but school without either me or their father and I'm a bit of a helicopter parent now.
Single or married shouldn't make any difference. Better safe than sorry.
Some of these cases could've been prevented if people were not so careless and stupid. As a Mother who's raised 3 daughters, my life as a Mother and my life as a woman never coincided. I never allowed anyone I was seeing to meet my daughters. Definitely would never allow them to go off alone. Anyone that is that deeply interested in your kids, needs to go immediately. He would've seen the barrel of my gun. Period.
Exactly she was a fool!
im so confused by all these people being so trusting. This just blows my mind
Ash yet most of the serial killers are from that era. And I mean every documentary starts with “In the early 70s and 80s”
Francesca Williams too easy to get off back then unfortunately
@@francescawilliams8177 This program is obviously old, so that makes sense for most of their episodes to be about killers from the 70s and 80s, but there are plenty of recent serial killers who just aren't far enough back in memory to have a documentary about them yet.
Francesca Williams there are more than 400 to 450 serial killers in America at this time.
@Ash 80s 70s 60s what ever you don't do that ,,,, I'm old School raised in the 70s would never do something like that first thing I'd do would be contact POLICE !!
He did these things out of stress omg. I have a glass of wine to relieve mine, what monsters
Good for you
@@demetriusmiddleton1246 why you coming after coming down on her for?
Or smoke some blunts ...you work through the stress you don't kill or hurt people
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How stupid and negligent can a “mother” be. She gave her nine year old into the care of a stranger. Poor baby.
I don’t play that shit
Because single mothers are desperate to play house with a man. Period.
@@tytiajones4425 that’s 💯% correct!!!! There is NO way I would ever intrust my baby with a complete 🤬 stranger. She met this devil while he was riding on a bike 🚲 in the neighborhood not a car but a damn bike!!! She couldn’t even give the police a license plate number to track this wicked bastard down. If I’ve never been over your house my child certainly isn’t going over there either. Mom exercised such horrible judgement by letting Vernita go off with that man. It’s so sad that she didn’t go with her first thought and stood by decision to deny her daughter from going. And all for a gift…and he ultimately took her most precious gift away from her😔
RIH baby girl 💖
I get you but it was a different time back than.
@@jazzy5975 There has never been a time when a loving mother would allow her child to go off in the company of some random stranger. An immutable obligation of parenthood is to protect the child from knowable and predictable danger…you know, STRANGER DANGER!
Whose side eyeing these actors like they’re the real killers
I could never play these types of parts 🤮
😆😆😆
They did that shit too lol
🙋🏽I do..but then i have to remember.
😂😂😂
you’ve only known him for a month and you let your CHILD walk to his “house” with him? like you need to be smarter .
Right, then she waited until midnight to get worried. I don’t understand, that’s a little girl even if that was your husband, what is he doing gone with your child to a house you’ve never seen nor been for hours. That’s a little girl, what could they have possibly been doing that long and he barely knows any of you. That was naive for me I’m sorry.
I have met many women who have children and got to see their children after a month or two. it often happens more than you think. let's say she lets him see her child after six months or even a year. this would happen anyway because the man she has met is a psychopath who kills.
👀WHAT 🏡 MOM NEVER SEEN A 🏡 FAKE ADDRESS HE GAV MOM AFTER A MONTH 🤬 MAY SHE RIP🌷
What I don't get is the girlfriend being into all this. WTF kind of evil witch is this woman, defies all comprehension.
Are you saying that you can understand why he’s into it ?
I'm going to assume that this woman was abused as a child by an adult man..but really..who fucking know some folks just born sickening the head
Yes I agree as well. She should have been under surveillance from the beginning when they knew that both of them were responsible for Vernita Weet.
The gf looks like a dude
it is a mystery some get a thrill from it be with the bad boy smitten by them fell in love.(Aint that romantic i say sarcastically) abuse does play into it but sorta like leader and follower complex. It goes back to bonney and clyde in the 30s. modern times karla homalka and paul bernardo sick couple when you read the case. Gerald and Charlene Gallego also in the 70s 80s. loyalty to ones lover strong bond.
When the officer followed the cab with the suspect in it, near the beginning of the video, they could have caught him then if the officer hadn't gone to arrest him. All he had to do was to call it in and tell them that the suspect was at his sister's house. Job done.
Exactly
@Mika Mika Indeed, that too.
Right I thought the same thing let him enter the sister house then surround the place
Exactly, they didn’t think that through.
Maybe they did t want him to get in the house. That was a possible hostage situation with children.
?? You "know" the man a month and let your daughter go away with him??????? WHY?
Not to mention the scrapyard guard who saw a man and a little girl at midnight, in a place like that, and wasn't at all surprised...
She trusted him after a month, she didn't think anything was wrong, and this was a different time. So please remember that.
I think we all know why
@@joywalker4918 there is no such thing as "different times".....dangerous men are always lurking around the kids.....she just made several bad decisions.....
@Richard Davis yeah that was a pretty stupid thing to say, it doesn't matter if it was a different time, that doesn't make pure ignorance more acceptable.
After mother realises she let a NEW male friend take her daughter in the evening for a WHOLE hour.
Narrator: Not knowing where else to turn to (the mother) turned to her friend for help, concerned for the safety OF HER FRIENDS daughter (the FRIEND) decided it was time to call the police!!!
Now Please explain HOW is your friend MORE helpful than the police especially when the guy is YOUR friend NOT hers! And secondly HOW is YOUR friend more concerned about your daughter than you???
Let’s just say the mom wasn’t the brightest one
In the black community we have trust issues with the cops we need to get to a solution to trust a few of them.
she truly did not think that she would loose her baby girl ,i think she was in doubt and disbelief ,she needed to consult someone she trusted first before it dawned on her .poor her
His sister allowed him around her child? I can't imagine what the 9 yr old went through the last few minutes of her life. And for him to do that and than walk around like it's nothing is a pure evil I hope I never run into.
I remember when this happemed. Men quit jeri curling their hair they wereafraid they'd get miataken for Coleman. I live north of Cincinnati and everyone was on alert
Really 🤣🤣🤣
I remember this too...such a heartbeaking crime!
Not quit da Jerry Curls.😅😅🤣🤣😂😂😆😁😉I'm weak laughing
Hahana
@@AndRoid-km7qr I hollered 😅😅
How do you let your daughter go with a man you barely know?!
Irresponsible
@@kemibello6812 hello kemi
Judge Julia. Very simple. You don’t.
Dum
@@ninalee8705 tf are you??
I'm sorry but the Jerry Curl would have put me on red alert! I have never trusted that self hating hair do.
I love because is my auntie burn me with that hot comb on more time, It would of be a fight.
😂😂😂
😂😂I dont mean to laugh but this was hilarious
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Riiiiight lol
No way I'm letting some man I barely know walk my young daughter anywhere.
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Oh that poor mum, Her heart must be broken
I'm a Dad, my daughter is everything to me I cannot imagine what that poor lady went through and is probably going through today.
One bad choice can and will change everything
I feel for her poor mommy
I would never ever even introduce my child to a man I'm dating for a month, if I'm a single mom. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child wandering off with a complete stranger. I feel so bad about what happened to that poor little girls. It's too bad that she trusted a monster with her daughter. I can feel her guilt.
6 months or more
@@earvetta Not even then. No wonder molestation rates are high from parents' partners. It's mostly performed by someone closest to you. Therefore, you ALWAYS have to be careful. Not live in fear, just don't leave them alone together. No days off in protecting the young ones.
A month is far too soon
@@AN-fg4cd I agree I have never let my children be alone with a man after my divorce. If we went on trips it was a family trip. I never let a man move in or spend the night with my children home. That was one of the first thing that was made clear when we started dating. A look so Sunday was strictly for my 3 children if they wanted to join us that was fine. In dating you as the parents have set rules laws that will protect your children and yourself. If a individual don't like it they can keep stepping.
For me it takes years before you meet my angels people be so careless with their children
I was 9 years old at the time of these killings living in Waukegan Illinois. I remember people calling Alton Colman "pissy shitty"
How did he get a woman to even give him the time of day if he was stinking of piss& shit?..🤔
I can only imagine how those mothers feel. The one who let her daughter leave with a monster. And the thought process of the one who realized she let monsters in her home. I myself am not that friendly but I can sympathize. Monsters like these will always try to find a way
How some people can be so cruel....😡😡😡😡😡
I find it weird that she would not just have strangers for dinner, but then to let my kids cudle on a couch to watch tv with them and then let them decide it was bed time and put my children to bed. I just don't understand???
She was washing dishes with her daughter and didn't see that because if she did she would of also saw the news that showed thier pics.
Well, these are reenactments as not everything u see is exactly true.
@@joshuaferrell384 but it somewhat was though if they managed to kill the daughter and mother without the other two boys knowing. Unless they just told them to go to bed
@@joshuaferrell384 The point is these people knew Colman and Brown a very short time and trusted them too much too fast
yea my thoughts exactly who even invites someone you just met over for dinner this stuff is not adding up. Most of these people they killed they knew less than 24 hours so drugs or sex had to be involved
I wonder what would prompt a mother to let her daughter go with someone she just met a few weeks.
Stupidity, naivety and just an overall lack of common sense.
I don't blame the older brother for not wanting to answer the door even though it was his grandmother he wasn't so trustworthy of anyone as others were and he was protecting he himself and his younger brother who was found hiding in the corner so he did the right as far as not opening up that screen door to begin with until the authorities showed up sooo
He was very observant also, he saw the devil put that knife in his pocket.
Agreed for all he knew they might have been hiding around the corner and forcing the grandmother to try to get her grandson to open the door and then they'd all be killed. I don't blame him one little bit and I hope he and his little brother were able to get some therapy to help them cope with this nightmare
Yeah. The mother of that little boy was so smart when it comes to strange people she lets in to he house - maybe that wizdom was learned from grandmom... Damn it must be tough shit to live in america....
@@LotusStitchandSketch?
@@abiahpelem2649 what?
I’m convinced Alton only got away with these crimes because he knew how to align himself with slow individuals and I mean sloooooooooow! This guy could not have been so successful in getting victims if people had better critical thinking skills and set boundaries for safety.
He was riding a bike, they met and 1 month later she lets this man take her daughter.....WOW!
women make foolish decisions and the outcome is always tragic....RIP little girl....
I know, OMG
It turns out he was her mum’s boyfriend in the actual case file online it states that he was her boyfriend I guess that’s why she was more trusting of this guy
kathy kay Yes, she made a very foolish and tragic mistake. But people should be very aware of the prowess of some predators. They can be extremely convincing as being full of integrity. This doesn’t excuse her severe lapse of judgment, though; he played on her weaknesses. Predators can be eerily attuned to their prey’s vulnerabilities. It does boggle me that anyone would be so reckless with their very own offspring.
Dan Berkey well in all honesty everyone in this video was extremely trusting of these two individuals I think it just goes back to the time period where people were less fearful and more trusting I mean everyone in this video should of had their guards up and they didn’t so it goes to show how convincing people can be
@@surgeon1016 You have a good point.
How could people go about killing people for no just cause. Unbelievable.
Yeah, I just can't even put myself in that state of mind, killing people for no reason. If I was going to kill someone, they would have to have done something absolutely wicked to me or my family, or it would have to be self defense.
They’re called psychopaths!
Toledo here...they had us scared here 35 years ago... evil
Man I bet
I would have locked myself in the house and wouldn’t open the door for anyone! And if I had kids at the time oh man they would have damn sure been stuck with me in the house and I wouldn’t have take my eyes off of them.
Daaaaaaaaaaaam ..........I didn't think, they would ever going to quit killing people. Every 3 minutes of the show, other murder was announced.
Right, I’m upset at how long they got away.
I have never trusted my daughter's with any man. Including their father's... why you ask? Because I don't know and can't control what another person does. I can only pray and be cautious for their safety and mine.
Thats a strong statement not even there father you need therapy. Unless u know your child father history is dirty
If the only reason you have for not trusting the father of your children with his own children is your lack of control..you really should seek counseling
@@starbloclocal20 you're right
It's crazy how my opinion gets me insulted. Smh Seems like you all need therapy🤣🤣🤣
@@quentealawoods it wasn't an insult
I apologize if I offended you😔
Amazes me how parents let childten wander off with " new friends" they know so little about .60 years ago in GB my. Parents would never have considered such a thing
That mother needs you be charged she is so irresponsible how can u send your child with late at night with a person u hardly know smh
It wasn't late at night. That's when she reported it. Keep judging a situation you haven't been in. Hope you feel better about yourself
@@miradjukic5045 yeah so many folks on here acting as if they're better than the mother. It could happen to anyone of us. Partners, family members, friends. Anyone of them can be monsters.
@@sarahjohnston3325 the moral to this story is don’t let anyone around your kids without you being there. My kids are home 24/7 my husband and I work opposite shifts when our kids see family they are monitored by us. Every parent needs to be this way with their prized possessions. You can’t trust anyone so I’m not sure something like this would happen to responsible parents.
@@sarahjohnston3325 ur comment is ridiculous.... U should have common sense not to let ur child go with any man especially only knowing them for a month... The mother was very careless.....
@@StyledByBri-i9o exactly 💯💯
9:22 - It's easy to monday-morning quarterback these old stories but I can't figure out how the Kenosha cops let Alton get away from them in the 1st place?
49:02 Patting herself on the back?
7 weeks is 48 days too many.
These programs are great. They let us know about the great work the FBI is doing. Thank you FBI.
Is that sarcasm? The FBI did nothing, or rather, whatever they did, led to nothing.
Never trust people with your children EVER!!!!!
And you just met the man , why would you let your child go off with a stranger
She was an idiot and she shoulda had the rest of her kids taken if she had anymore
My heart broke for Vernita, her mom just let her go with this man they had only known for a few weeks. I won’t even let my son go with his own dad/sperm donor bc he’s been absent for almost 16 months and he’s a stranger to my son, so I told him he is welcome to see my son but I will also be there. I damn sure wouldn’t allow someone I barely know to take my child!!! The only people who have taken my son without me around are close family and friends that I have been close to for years and I know I can trust. I don’t even care if I was dating someone for a month and talked to them everyday and had been around them a lot in the time I damn sure wouldn’t let them even take him on a quick run to the store!!
There's something to be said about a woman who lay down with a stranger ("sperm donor") and have a baby with him then come on social media saying you don't trust him. A real woman NEVER lay down with a stranger. A real women lay down with a FRIEND, A TRUSTING PARTNER.
@@sistersofthemaccabees2497 where did u read that she laid down with a stranger ? As for the (sperm donor) that could be called to a man that you've known for 20yrs.. Married to, but baby people break up and the man might not be doing his duties as a dad for the last 16 months and he becomes a SPERM DONOR 🤷😤😳
Wow this post is dysfunctional as hell 16 months which means the kid is almost a year and a half right? How long does the kid have to be with HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER and YOU PRESENT for you to idk what TRUST EM?!!!
@@marywashington9995 Honestly I think cases like the one of Fritzl teach us that parenthood doesn't mean shit and why on earth would he want to be alone with the child anyway? I could understand the anger if the child was 9 and the father couldn't go get ice cream with them but even then, the mother is supposed to protect her child and that's exactly what she is doing by being present when the father visits. Especially young or first time mothers are extremely careful when it comes to their children and they are to be respected.
@Diamond Leigh Calm down maybe? You just watched a video full of reasons why you should be vary of people spending time with your children and still attack people who do exactly that. I'm 100% with the original comment.
Spelling "lose" incorrectly is one of my biggest pet peeves
Seems some don't know it's one o. I'm with you, one of my pet peeves also. However my grammer is poor.
It's the " cool " thing for millennials
@NYC Hold It Down For DMX ok Zoomer
*Don't allow your children to go with stranger - you don't really know a person until you have lived with them for at least 5 years. Why would the courts, police and any other law entity let a sexual predator out of jail? 5,000 for a reward involving a child is an insult. They did every last one of his victims a disservice. STOP allowing your kids to walk alone, and furthermore, TEACH them NOT to go with strangers. Don't allow new people into your house!!! The police didn't even do a good job checking Alton for weapons. The relatives of the victims should sue the state of Illinois for letting that BASTARD out of jail. That silly NO good woman wanted to take full responsibility for the killings and tape so that Alton can commit more rapes and murder.*
I agree 💯%
Gemini Johnson it should be taught to each child but these bastards learn to be master manipulators of people.
@da King of Mines, I saw earlier today that all kinds of things are happening to politicians in the Chicago area in these last few days: It seems possible there will be a huge clean up of the corruption which has plagued much of Illinois. I sure hope so; a lot of good people in the state.
In my country some people commit murder while on bail for killing someone while they were on bail for another murder. Bail for killers is a joke.
It takes more than 5years to know a person
though this happened a long time ago, i'm still shocked how children can't walk the streets alone in the US. I live in Kosovo and i started walking alone to school at 5 years old. kind of shocking too see how its so different there.
Depends on where you are and how strict your parents are. There's plenty of kids walking to and from school, some as young as four.
Its mostly big cities that are more unsafe i guess. In towns and rural areas, kids probably walk alone to schools or bus-stops i am sure.
The age of social media has people confused. If you didn't grow up during this time you don't know the environment of individual towns and cities in that were in existence throughout this country. This couple's crime spree changed our childhood in Ohio. Before them we didn't worry about these issues.
I grew up in the 70s in the village of Harlem.Most of us in that area knew each other, or if we didn’t know you then someone we knew had to know you, in order for us to trust you. So even back then there was an air of suspicion towards someone you did not know. until you spent time with them or someone you knew well could vouch for them,you held that person at arms length
@cheri collier. I grew up in the seventies and eighties and we were out playing most of the day without adult supervision. However, we stayed together in large groups and knew we shouldn’t wander off alone. Plus in the U.K. people knew there were evil people around. Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, the Moors Murderers, we’re well known.
I suppose most of us were safe because there weren’t safer recruitment practices then. Peadophiles were allowed to work in children’s homes, scouts and guides and churches, so sadly they had access to children.
It should be "lose" in the title, not "loose." Lose = opposite of win, loose = opposite of tight.
Thank you. Pet peeve of mine.
SO TRUE WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE SPELL. CAN THEY EVEN READ?
I live in remote Montana, and I trust no one..
Exactly!
Trust in GOD.
@marc layne how remote of montana? i live up by the yak river valley haha
Why does half of society spell LOSE wrong!?!?!?
Because they are stupid
What about the ones that don't know the difference between there, their and they're? Or ad and add? Or use the word literally wrong? Or who think they are sounding smart when they use conversate instead of converse? Or who don't know to drop an e before adding i-n-g? Or who think paid is spelled payed?
That's the short list.
And the difference between saw and seen
well when we enter a spelling Bee....i Will get at you
*to, too, two 🤓
And this is exactly why parents should always tell their kids regularly, to never, ever talk to strangers. And single mom's, please, be aware you are always an easy target for evil people.
I totally agree with you 💯!
Thank you!
This is why Fathers are so important
Unfortunately, alot of them don’t understand this.
Im surprised the cop didn't wait for him to go into his sisters house and get back up befote they tried to arrest him.... of course he took off when he saw the cop!
Well today’s time people claim that it’s natural to run from a cop.
Wood splitter. Feet first. Slow speed.
JBone Philly .... meat grinder
If you mean wood chipper your right feet first then spin the wheel backwards so he comes out with destroyed legs and repeat by putting his body in a little more each time.
my old boss at a childcare center would leave her two young daughters age 7 and 10 alone with a men she had met less than two weeks ago. I was always so crazy worried about these girls, that I love dearly. She went on to marry that man and now she's been married to him for over a year and strangely she doesn't leave the children alone with him anymore, even preferring them to be out in the city on their own in the middle of the night while she's at a "reunion".
A good friend of mine is a divorced mama and her two girls only met the new man in her life after 6 months of dating, when she was sure that it was serious between them. And they met at a playground, it took another while before she would bring him home, and they were together for over a year before he was alone with her girls. Not because she didn't trust him, but because she's a mama first and foremost and she didn't want her children to be with someone they would have to loose if it didn't work out, so she wanted to be really rational and sure about it. my children are never in a location that I don't know
As an adult man, i always try not to be in the company of kids. We live in a time, where its easy for people to point fingers and get a bad impression. Better stay away and happy.
Wow! I know the mother who let her daughter go with that clown! To this very day still thinks about her wild dection!
How did you know her?
WHAT JUSTICE SYSTEM 😡😡 These kind of people should never have been allowed to live in society ever again!
I bet they wouldn’t be if it was a judge’s family member 😡
Amen😮
Is it me or were people more trustworthy back in the 80’s. Another single parent who allowed strangers into your home and allowed them to stay for dinner. Plus they were playing with your 8 and 3 year old along with the oldest daughter. And she didn’t think it to be strange
Alot of people were trustworthy back then. It really was a different time. If your old enough to remember
Indeed.. i remember in the 80s, I went to climb tree, went to the neighbour, play at nearby pond... My aunt look after me but I was allowed to run free. In the 80s people more trustworthy.
Yes this was isolated incident people in the eighty's we're so nice
Yes lots of people kept their doors unlocked during the day
Mandatory death sentences should be applied to active accomplices too; vile people!
It's "nothing to lose", not "loose".
yea,,,,and Herbs has a fucking 'H' in it....
when i enter a spelling Bee......i will hit you up
I dont understand HOW the Mother could let her little girl go with a stranger..no, its just wrong. Any strange man showing interest in a young child has to be suspect.
Giving kids up to strangers, inviting strangers in the house for dinner like DAMN people were a different type of stupid in the 80s.
Then they complain about us and call us snowflakes, stupid, naive, bla bla.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
REAL CRIME NEEDS TO GIVE EVERYDAY PEOPLE SOME COMMON SENSE CREDIT
i grew up in Waukegan during the time this was going on, and all I can say is that it was a different time back then. I know I was in the single digits and I could be outside playing but had to be back inside when the street lights came on. Ps I moved to Kenosha during middle school so for me, this episode hit super close to home....
Hey Amelia! This is your mom here. Fancy running into you! Don't know if I ever told you, but I remember A Coleman. When he took that little girl us parents were super scared.x
@@denisekristen7620 i can't believe my mom found me on youtube of all places! love you mama!!
Same here! I was 9 living in Utica Projects in Waukegan
@@skittlesrainbow4853 WOW!! Small world!
@Milwaukee Money Yup, that sounds about right. We did have a mall in Racine, but from what I heard, it closed down a few years back.
That's why you don't trust people so easy and fast, and specially dont invite strangers into your home.
They should make a movie about Alton Coleman.I can see Omar Epps or Wesley Snipes playing him.
Jeanette Johnson, Great casting ideas!
Or Kimberly elise as debra brown
I knew Alton Coleman for years used to show up to our shows at the Oasis steel top hat Lounge it's so strange to know someone and and never have an idea who they really are
UNBELIEVABLE KNOWN HIM ONLY A MONTH ALLOWED DAUGHTER TO GO WITH HIM POLICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONTACTED FIRST THING !!!!!!
I would have NEVER let my daughter out of my sight, I don’t give a shit how close it is!!!
That would be the day where two adults I didn't know playing with my children in the front yard I am going to invite in for dinner. That's crazy, as soon as I saw them I'd tell my kids to come in.
Most definitely
Right no matter how innocent they look
I wouldn't even let my younger brother talk to a senior girl in school, it seemed so strange. I guess some of us are more vigilant, some are lax.
Glad I discovered this channel!
This evil stuff is why I trust nobody and I mean NOBODY evil has no specific look male female young or old it's really scary.
Exactly
I'm so glad that they. Caught both of these monster's they we're definitely ruthless and evil with full of rage and hate I remember when this happened R.I.P to all the victims and their families as we'll!
I remember watching this when it originally aired. So illogical. You don't to go to prison for so you go on a killing spree?
I was shocked that a mother would be so trusting with this stranger around her child. We teach our children to not talk to strangers. There's a good reason for that warning.
That's the problem....he was no longer a stranger.
I don’t understand why the mom was so trusting with letting a man she barely knew take her daughter. People always say “you’ve been with your husband for over 20 years”. Idgaf I have sons and I would never let some random man take my kids anywhere. What could possibly be going through her head😤😤
I remember this case very well. I lived in Detroit and we always hung out at my aunts house. It was the summer time and we were sitting on the front porch. Someone saw my cousins boyfriend and called the police because they thought he was Alton Coleman the only resemblance was the jerry curl hair because he was a much older man.
“The FBI always gets involved when children of tender years disappear.” ‘Tender years’? What an odd and creepy choice of words.
Guess that means before puberty
I said the same thing