White Star lures Shadow Vessel in to Jupiter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- White Star lures Shadow Vessel in to Jupiter from B5's Messages from Earth (episode 8, season 3). Please note this is all the relevant CGI extracted in order from the episode.
I recently started re-watching (yet again) my Babylon 5 DVD box set collection. Figured I'd do a favour to all my subscribers that did so because of the B5 content I uploaded in the past.
Although it's entertainment, we can also consider it educational for anyone studying CGI of the mid 90's.
This is a non-monetized channel.
Jupiter - taking hits meant for Earth for over 3 Billion years.
Just the kind of big brother any planet needs.
Yes, Jupiter's a protective big brother to Earth as it insures that civilization ending meteors don't rain down on Earth all the time and here, it kills a Shadow vessel that could've attacked Earth and killed lots of innocent people.
Like that comet in 1994,the hole in the atmosphere was visible for weeks. 21 pieces the smallest of which would've killed a billion outright on earth.
For a series that is now 25-30 years old, the effects still look good.
Just a shame that so many of the original cast are no long with us.
I never saw Babylon 5, but now I understand, where comes some inspiration to BSG 2004 and Expanse TV Shows
Jupiter's atmospheric pressure is 2,000 pounds per square inch and its atmosphere is 15,000 miles thick. The deeper you go, like in an ocean, the higher the pressure. Not only could that Shadow not fight Jupiter's gravity but the atmospheric pressure CRUSHED it.
All those thin spikes... super scary but not right for a high-pressure environment. Battle crabs are vacuum ships.
When regular battle tactics no longer apply and you have to think outside the box.
Open a jump point on Jupiter? Kind of risky.
Open one on Mars? Near ground level? OK, if you know the coordinates.
Live and learn. Great job, FL!
different environments and gravity
also you could destroy a rocky planet if you when to the portal
Who can say about jump points? This is a fantasy.
I wonder how an Omega class could get so close to the top clouds of Jupiter without being pulled down by the gravity.
My guess is that her engines were still running to maintain that low orbit.
Staying in orbit is all about velocity ... if you're going at enough speed you can maintain a circular orbit abound any object. Too fast and you break orbit and move away, too slow and you fall.
They were in a very low orbit.
The atmospheric drag is certainly enough that the orbit would degrade over time, but they also have engines to maintain the orbit , not that they would want to hang out that low.
@@danielboatright8887 Plus, I think gravity at the edge of Jupiter's atmosphere is only 2.37 or something. A ship with only moderately powerful engines should be able to maintain a low orbit even with atmospheric drag.
@@SternwallJerkson 2.5 G's at the top of Jupiters Clouds
1:45 Shadow ship: "My little PAAAWWW!"
Full power, give me everything you've got!
A million years old civilization doesn't have the technology to fight Jupiter gravity?? I find it hard to believe .
they'res mart enough not to enter gas giants with tremendous gravity wells
@@SantomPh That ship was insane as the human CPU wasn't properly prepared for installation, any other Shadow vessel would have just jump into Hyperspace, this was a crazy ex who caught u out with her best friend.
You have to watch the episode to understand. Earth Gov used humans to try and control the ship, and the merging between "Core" (Human) and ship was incomplete, and the ship lost its shit, it was confused and enraged enough to lose control in the pressure and gravity environment.
The Story is, the ships need a Central Operating system to fully operate, and that being, as the Central core, merges with the ship to become one complete entity. If the merging fails for some reason, it is like windows full of Malware after a Windows update.
This goes back to the episode 'Ship of Tears', where Alfred Bester (Psycop) gets help from the B5 crew to intercept 'Weapons Components' meant for the ships, which, were Telepaths, destined to be merged with the Shadow ships. It was after that, that it was discovered, that using a high level Telepath, could block the merged Telepath of the Shadow vessel.
@@ChannelReuploads9451 Right Right- You forgot the part they shot at it to really piss off the crazy ship. It became a Karen in minutes
@@TwiceStruck Karen. Lol. Loved it!
B5 full battle at Jupiter with the shadow ship and the agamemnon
They don't fight the earth force ship.
Not a battle, White Star tricks the Earth Force ship in to backing off, by communicating via Interlac (Inter species common communications language) that they want to surrender, the ship backs off, and the White star opens a jump point at the edge of the atmosphere and escapes. Sheridan uses Interlac because he does not want the Earth Force ship to know they speak English.
oooo omega can fire beam other than the front or aft port?
It seems the beam weapons can be turned/angled. One episode later, they fire broadside at another Omega. (the newscast in "Point of No Return")
@@tyranusfan i'll check it out...thanks
smaller turreted beams for close defense. shadow omegas show them in action on a larger scale vs Ivanovas whitestar attack in season 4 ep 19.
just think that vs capital ships those small things just scratch the paint a little compared to the main front and aft beams
I read that because of budget constraints they never were able to show the true capable fire power of the Omega class ships. There are also missile tubes along the side to use in combat but we never saw those used in the show. The Centauri Primus class battlecruisers are supposed to be able to fire particle beam weapons too and I think the Vorchan class was intended to have beam weapon capability too but we only ever see them use their pulse weapons.
Omegas are also able to launch 32 fusion nuclear missiles as a broadside Salvo. Couldn't show it due to budget constraints.
It also carries 36 starfuries. That's a lot of death going for you.
The Nova, which later on gets upgraded with gravity drives which brought that entire design back from retirement since its a beast of a ship, had 18 heavy PPG dual cannons, 2 fusion missile launchers, 36 starfuries, and 6 particle beam cannons. 2 in front, 4 in the back. Once EA joined the ISA and got a lot of good tech due to joining Novas and Warlocks became the mainstay with Hyperions and Omegas acting as support craft for those ships.
Why would the Shadows destroy any kind of support facilities for their ships?
That was a Shadow ship dug up by humans and then accidentally activated when someone got pulled into its inner workings. The ship went off the rails as a result.
@@acereporter73 It wasn't accidental. Clark's government was trying to take the ship for themselves. They dug it up and sent a person inside. The person wasn't prepared, and the ship went insane.
@@tyranusfan Yup and that's the ONLY reason they were able to trick it they way they did. It was insane. The only sad part about this is the shadow ships were far more advanced and durable, there's no way it would have been crushed when the white star wasn't considering it never went significantly deeper into jupiter than the white star did. I always hated that part of this scene. Had they been able to penetrate the hull with weapons now that is was under stress from the gravity well, or something like that, it would have been more believable. Plot armour is never as satisfying.
@@MrBottlecapBill it had just been reactivated and it had an insane pilot
Odds are pretty good its defenses were not at 100%
@@MrBottlecapBill I get your point, but it's a TV show, they don't have all day to show the ship going deeper and deeper into Jupiter before getting crushed. They showed us what was going to happen eventually.
There’s very high radiation from the planet’s Van Allen radiation belts.
Which episode was this? I have the complete series and sequels but don't remember this event
I'm guessing you didn't think of looking at the video details as the answer to your question is there.
Fire requires oxygen, but nevermind still badass.
It's burning the oxygen from inside the facility.
Fire is only an exothermic reaction. It can occur without oxygen. Hypergolics created exothermic reactions without oxygen to Land on the Moon and Sodium burns fairly fiercely in Chlorine without Oxygen.
it’s a closed system, like a phosphorus fire…the inly part actually open to space is the ventilation system and that’s actually what is giving the ship thrust
Which episode is this?
This is the first of a Three Episode arc in Season 3, 3x08, Messages from Earth.
Clark's forces discover a buried shadow vessel on Ganymede. They send an unprepared person in to the ship, the person and ship merge, and the ship goes insane, breaks free of the excavation site, and in turn destroys the site.
Clark hears of the ""Attack"" on the site and citing planetary security, declares martial law. Several Colonies break away from the Earth Alliance, Clark's forces attack the colonies, so Babylon 5 secedes from the alliance. Clark attacks Babylon 5.
3x08 Messages From Earth.
3x09 Point of No return
3x10 Severed Dreams.
a first one species should know something called gravity
It was a young vessel that went crazy because it was not prepared for the merging with the organic CPU - know the stuff before you comment 😘
Im wondering when the bab5 reboot comes how different this scene would look. I do t think the whitestar will change, but i think the look of jumping will
I doubt it will be a scene for scene remake, there will be new story lines. Also, the overarching events will likely be the same, but the focus of the episodes could be quite different. It might be the story of everything that was ''between the lines'' of the first time around. Imagine the ''Day of the Dead'' episode but from the perspective of entirely different people who experienced it. Imagine the Babylon 4 incident, but it's the events before anyone from B5 showed up. Imagine seeing the assassination of President Santiago from the PoV of the plotters ... so much can be done.
I expect it to be more WOKE GARBAGE like the Star Trek social disease STD!
@@SardonicALLY See i used to think that too. BUT. Babylon 5 is a CW show. Is not a high budget network by any stretch. In fact , its shows are often ridiculed for their cheap effects and sights. Also Im not sure people will want a scene for scene remake.. they could just watch the original. I was wondering how many of the key events they will keep. If they are not going tith Sinclair at all, just directly for Sheridan.. then the Valen storyline gets turned on its ear. They will need to redo valen or something else will have to happen.
It also changes up the Battle of the Line a lot. By a lot.
THere is also the recent American political issues. They may decide to focus less on the Earth Civil War. I dont know.
@@rickcoona And Picard comes around to piss on the grave.
@@rickcoona Yes, because to people like you being inclusive is a grave crime.
If in real life the Shadows were millions of years ahead of us Jupiter's gravity will be a none issue. If the ship wanted to it easily suck Jupiter into its multi dimensional interior. It will if it wanted to do the same to Ton 618. Even if there was a billion Black Holes the size of Ton 618 they all will be consumed. Based on how the Shadow tech worked on the show they are at most 1,000 years of present day man or 500 years ahead of ST: TNG tech.
nah
I guess the commander of the shadow vessel didn't know about the gravity and atmospheric pressure of Jupiter
The shadow ship just received a new human as a CPU and it was done so horribly bad the ship went rabid.