Read and write Bosch EDC17C10 with the Tricore TC1797 using K-tag.
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In this video I will quick take you through the process of how to read and write an engine ECU, in this case the EDC17C10...
In this case, using K-tag.
If you need your maps to be adjusted, you can use this place, they are quick really supportive...
ecutech.info
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments, please put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
Hi sir.
This video is a big help for me as a auto tech. Because i know how to read and write the software of the ecu by using ktag. But i hope soon make another video on how to reflush or how to transfer the software of an orig ecu to another new or surplus ecu. Thank again sir.
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Whenever I have that to do, I will make a video for it...😉
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Great video . My BMW has the same ECU how do I find out which plug-in number it has it says 220 plug in and how do I find out which C number it has It is either EDC 17 CP 45 or C 41 IROM
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hi were did u get the pin out pic as im looking for the same pin out
K-tag will show you the connections...
Otherwise, you can find them with a quick google search...
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A little bit off topic have you done a Bosh triocore cloning with that tool , I got a burnt ecu gonna have to clone , any advice how its done ? Its a renault master 3 2011 by , 2.3 diesel ,its new to me
That should be an EDC17C11...
Most likely has an OTP area...
Might be possible to move the OTP data and do it that way... but not sure, never done one...
This tool will be most likely able to read and write... but obviously not into the OTP...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks for reply
What is tricore? Is it with three wires? K line and can H and L?
And is the advantage of this that you dont have to open your ecu?
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No... the tricore referes to the 3 packages united in one single chip...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infineon_TriCore#:~:text=TriCore%20is%20a%2032-bit,DSP%20in%20one%20chip%20package.
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Nice video! So, in that ecu was possible to pull the whole flash via tricore? I thought that you can do that only bdm style.
Is good you pull the eeprom and the flash, but was t better to have that compressed-encrypted full backup what ktag do also?
If on the way back of writing something goes wrong or put wrong software, ktag will allow you to write only the encrypted one because the lost identification numbers.
Is it the same programming for all EDC17?
I need kia's crd engine bosch edc 17 ecu fully cloned and suspect will be same. Does it need again that boot pin wire soldered in case of bdm used or will be just fine to be that tricore style? Thanks
Hello i ask about writing ECU with Ktag. When writing EPROM there is a problem operation not allowed. How to solution. Pls give me information. Thanks
Check connections etc...
Never had that issue... so can't really help...
Thank you for watching!
Nice job and good luck
Thanks!
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Hello i' m trying to read the same off yours edc17c10( maps )by ktag but i'm getting error Reading at 86%. It maybe of ktag clone version. Thanks for help
Hello, I had the same problem, using a good 8MHz 18pf quartz resonator and adding two 22pf capacitors solved the problem.
from backup i have two flash files and eeprom. Can the flash be copied from another driver if I suspect that it is damaged? Are the files closely related? Immo, VIN, is only found in eeprom?
No. Better if you have not only separate files but also one full backup.If you use K-tag, choose full backup option and at the end it will ask you do you wish separate files also.Click yes if need them. In that scenario, you'll get lets say: 2mb flash(maps,settings,car vin,..) , 500kb eeprom(setting,partial immo settings) and in some cases 500-800kb(if remember) processor software. And also about 500-900kb encrypted, archived backup.
If you put wrong or bad software only that full encrypted backup will save your ass
HI IF I SEND YOU A ECU BMW E61 525D 77KW 130HP 2004 CAN YOU CANCELAE HE FILE OF LIGH AIRBAG PASSENGER AND DPF EGR AND PRGRAMED WIH T ORIGINAL SOFTWARE O THIS CAR AND THE COS THANKS '???
sorry a quick question if the ECU work on the vehicle before or after opening it then why take it of and read and write it again what is the purpose
as am not familiar with it?
To modify the maps/data on the ecu...
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ok i see so its not affecting the original data was in it before if no then how the old data well re restor again is it through the Software in said the K-tag?
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You are not really familiar with this stuff, I can see...
In this case was nothing wrong with the software in the ecu, was a "mechanical" issue, that was resolved on the software...😉
Hello at first thnx for video..
Now i ask about reading and writting
When reading why reading separeted first MAPS and then EPROM?? and wich file should i send to TUNER..
And wich file send TUNER to me EPROM or MAPS..
And now when i WRITE wich one should i choose MAP OR FLASH... OR EPROM..
And please make a video on how to connect cables from A to Z..
Thnx very much
You can backup all in one file and split the files after...
I prefer to read and save them separately... that's all...
The file you need tuning is the maps...
Thank you for watching!
What was the problem with this car that needed to flash it's ECU for a newer version,or it had no problem ,and it was a remap??,and would an update using diagbox would do the same thing as you did?
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No... was to remove the speed limit and other things...
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Is KTAG from chinese online flatform(aliexpress)reliable or it is completely different from those original one?where to get those orig one.thanks
Hi very good video thanks. Just I want to ask my computer is dead and now will be replaced. How I can do cloning from my old computer? Because I tried to programming but I put wrong one BIN file. What I need to do now? Thanks anyway
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If you have backed up the original one, load the ecu with the backup...
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Thank you for your lessons 🙏.
Have you softwars for cars 🚗 in case I need them .
Great video posted on my b-Day. Thank you for your sharings
Happy b! 🎂🍾
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and 1 more question why all those light were flashing in said the Dash. how would you diagnose those kind?
If ECU does not work anymore it needs to flash how the flash is found. and what car can we flash with xprog thank you
Depends what is failed on the ecu...
If is a corrupted flash, you can try to find an ori and reflash it using K-tag... X-prog is not much of an help in that case...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Thanks for all information! But what is the problem with this car?
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That was not the point of this video...
Was improve economy and other things...
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what he did is what known as "chip tuning" but its the proper way to do it, he gave the car some moe hp and better fuel economy
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Hi , The K-Tag you are using ? .... is that a clone or a reworked K-tag ? ...
Clone...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks ….. i am going to order one today …. Any issues with it ?
Not so far...
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Is the immo also kopied on this way?
The eeprom backup took care of that
Hi, have you ever tried to read a Peugeot 207 1.4 ecu mev17.4 tricore tc177 cheers
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Don't think so...
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Hi! What tool you can recommend to read and write Bosch ECU Tricore Infeneon?
This one is quite good... K-tag...
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i wish you were a lot closer to kent, seems the dealer who sold me a car cant fix it. engine light comes once you been at or near 70 for a 5 mins on motorway, misfires and loses power, restart gets some of it back and engine light turns off, but still missing, get to dealer after the little rest , its not missing anymore, hes a honda main dealer but cant scan all the codes from a ford (too tight to buy a real scanner) alreay ive had 2 coil packs (one pack 4 cylinder) 4 leads, 4 plugs, same error...hes too lazy to test drive it properly,
Hi LM, where did you buy the k-tag and software ? ebay ? Pls provide the link. Thanks
Hi
Cardiagtool.co.uk
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Where do you get the information for connecting the wires to the different ecu's ?
Comes with the software itself...
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hi
in the menu of ktag you have 3 choice, from "edc17c10 PSA "
plug in
219- bosch edc17 C10 IROM Tp1797 and
319 - edc17 irom cp42 tp1797
both have tp1797 processor but different plugin
how do you decide which one to select? thanks
They all have the same processor, but the suffix is different...
The first one you mentioned, is obviously for a C10, the second one for a CP42...
You just need to know which ecu you are working with...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks a lot for the quick response,
I also saw pcb is different from this 2 variants
greeting from Holland
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Hi can you explain what can be done with K-TAG I ment how mony different ECU can be reflashed how mony different vehicles?
Loads...
I am sure you can find a list of all supported vehicles somewhere...
It also depends on the hardware and software version...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks for replying back brother and I'm really sorry to disturb.
What's the best hardware and software to use as I'm just a beginner but somehow my English is good so i think i can handle it.
I also want to find the full price if you can help me please.
Thanks again.
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The best hardware is obviously the latest...
@@LMAutoRepairs @LM Auto Repairs i agree defiantly the reason I've asked such question is because in my country and money others well take time to be known but am trying my best to make it quick to be known through social media so own i heard a good thing about the recovery staf from
The main K tag owner like just in case I've damaged ECU they can help you remove it. Whats the normal price and what type is available.
@@dashtyATG
If you want to make this a business, buy genuine K-tag...
A quick google search and you will find it...
Can anti-theft (automotive immobilizer ) be deleted using this tool ?
You can read the memory that contains such data, modify it and write back...
But this tool is purely to read and write...
Thank you for watching!
One more question ! How do I can read the computer of my gearbox on BMW X5 f15 4D 313hp EDC 17CP49 2014 year ? Do you think I have to remap it too if I remap the engine( N57 ) on remap stage 1?
No... no need to touch the gearbox...
Unless you go really high on power.. stage 1 you will be just fine...
Thanks a lot again
@@nsarov
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nice to see how profesional working! thanks for video!!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
can you copy imobiliser data with k tag and dose it rewrite the vin in a donor ecu
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Yes...
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hello Mr, what does it mean ( TRIGGER FUNCTION ) in oscilloscope and thanks
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Not my words... but basically is this...
"An oscilloscope's trigger function is important to achieve clear signal characterization, as it synchronizes the horizontal sweep of the oscilloscope to the proper point of the signal. The trigger control enables users to stabilize repetitive waveforms as well as capture single-shot waveforms."
There is a lot of info on this... just Google it...
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the KTAG that you use to read the ecu is clone or original ,think you,
Clone...
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@@LMAutoRepairs think you very good
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Do you recommend some one doing this with no ECU experience ? i would love to map out my DPF and EGR on my 1.6 hdi 100bhp 207
Well... just be extremely careful... especially opening the ecu...
If you are not confident, I would suggest for you to get someone else to do it...
Thank you for watching!
Bro I want to buy Kess and K Tag, somebody wants to selling me Kess and K Tag Clone 500€ but he is guarantor if something goes bad, I do not know what to do, To buy from Alientech or this guy?
Alientech all day... genuine programmers.
If not genuine, any place pretty much is good...
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who are those Alientech ?
@@rk18drive13 Alientech, worldwide leader in designing and developing tools for engine tuning, is an Italian company that for many years is working in this field. It's original not Clone.
Doing the very same job yet im getting checksum error on when saving the read files, size of micro is only 1.125mb
Make sure you have selected the correct plug in, double check connections...
TC1797 should have 4Mb flash (maps)...
Good luck...
Thank you for watching and for your comment, b
@@LMAutoRepairs thanks didn't expect you to reply. Solved it by reading from another pc. 🙂 Just need to get hold another dump now. Thanks for sharing your videos.
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@@simoncarabott7119 what is the Operating system of the pc you used to get work?
@@leonardorolaza8060 issue sorted was using win 10 laptop i read it on my desktop also with win 10 no issues. I have downgraded to win 7 since then
I'm super curious to do some remaps on my own, wich versión KessV2 and Ktag do you recommend? Thanks in advance 👍
The latest one as possible...
I am using kess 2.47 an tag 2.23 I think...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Ok!
Thanks a lot !Exellent work and explanation . Do they pemap both files or one of them, and wich one I need to send for remap ?
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You need to send the maps only...
Also know as flash memory...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks a lot , again , and have a nice evening ! Keep out of the corona virus . The world needs you ! Good luck .
@@nsarov
You too... stay safe!
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is it possible to repair an ecu with no check engine light on? where can i download ecm titanium software, can you please share a link
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What do you mean with repair an ecu without the engine light on?
Google will help you finding ecmt...
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@@LMAutoRepairs i mean when i plug the faulty ecu and turn ignition on there is no check engine light, shop owner put a new ecu and the car runs fine
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Ok... but can you communicate with the faulty ecu?
If is a software problem, you might have some chances... if is hardware, obviously this will not do nothing....
@@LMAutoRepairs should i try with ktag?
@@barkatakiutpal
Go for it...
Let us know how it goes...
Hi darling
I have Mercedes benz when cnnectiing torbo tube throuth the throttle the engine not ideal operation when acceleratin padle
And when disconnecting tube operations ideal
I have short video how i send to you ?
you dont use darling to a gent nigga change that next time.
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Hola, necesito un diagrama de cableado de la entrada del ECD17C10 me puedes ayudar,los cables están cortados,y todos tienen el mismo color,necesito un diagrama gracias.
i need help how to connect ktag to delphi dcm 1.2 renault clio 3 2007 to read data from ecu
Thank you
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K-tag should give you all the instructions...
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the Ktag your were using is this a clone? if so how well do they usually do? thank you
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Yes... clone...
So far, so good!
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i also wanted to say thank you for all your videos i get alot from them keep up the good work
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LM Auto Repairs hi where do you recommend get a good version of ktag. Cheers
HI. What is better KESS or K-TAG?
You need kess and ktag
Kess reads over obd II port only flash. Whith K Tag you can read Flash+ Eeprom+ MPC
Useful video
Thanks!
Reparei no PC em Portugues :D Para clonar centralinas preciso do KTAG master ou do slave?
Master...
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@@LMAutoRepairs obrigado!
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De nada...
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can i read this ecu with Kess via OBD port?
No... at least not with the version I have...
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Hello,
Nice job and always interesting to see this kind of video.
Have you already tried to write on a EDC17CP09 or CP02 or C41 or something similar from BMW. I would like to read and write on a EDC17CP09 from my 325d.
What is your KTag version ?
Thank you
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I might have done those... but can't remember now...
I pretty sure I am using 2.23... but without chek I might be mistaken...
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Thank you for your answer
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As usual you are excellent thank you very much
Thanks!
How much did ecutech charged for this job Louis?
Hi Dev...
He has all the prices on his website...
Just have a look...
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@@LMAutoRepairs .....thanks for reply
www.hdi-tuning.co.uk .and adapter use ic MAX 232 easy
Great video
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Can it correct mileage?
You can't. In most cases the dashboard itself keep them and if that is VAG/Merc/BMW then it write in the ecu eeprom and dash.Then constantly check and take the highest value. if your plan is lower the odometer value you need either really special software or to change on both places
y there is no big free website make from all user arround world save trusted firmware of all model
Which clone is your k-tag master.
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Yes...
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Hello! Congratulations for your video.
Is posible read ecu with kess clone last version? Regards
Possibly... my version is not the latest one...
Check online what it supports...
Buy I believe this 17 is bench only...
@@LMAutoRepairs old school carbs
for ecu backup must run full backup ...
if ecu is tuned before you read
only a full backup will save you lots of time and problems ...
full backup give you one complete backup to restore and seperete files to
mod
You can backup files separately... is exactly the same...
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@@LMAutoRepairs first of all ..
i very happy to comunicate with you ..
you are one of the reason i started
work with cars ...
but in this case you not 100 right
i know its same read ...
but if you will get a pre tuned ecu
by another softwer that use diffrent chksum calc you will have some hard time if ktag will not stop you in time ...
and give you write the ecu .
your only mpc backup will do cksum error ...
and only full restore in ktag
its turn off automatic chsum
belive me ...
happend to me a lot on edc16
and edc17cp18
with ktag
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I think there is some confusion here...
When you backup, either full or the eprom and flash separately, they are saved with the current and correct checksums...
If you need to write them back, if the tool you use does not correct them for that particular module, that still ok...(as far as you have not made any modifications...)
That's regardless of the backup was an original unmodified file, or a tunned one...
I always make backups separately, because obviously the eprom is going to be for that particular car, the flash however , in some cases can be used in other similar cars/module...
If you backup everything in one file, and then you want to use only the flash, you need to separate the eprom from the flash...
Yes, is not a problem, and either way is correct... I just prefer this way....
@@LMAutoRepairs happend to me
few time ...
edc16 read with ktag full bdm
but ktag refuse to write mod file ...
and refuse write same mpc i read
cksum error ..
i use galleto bdm no cksum option
and a mpc after cksum with winols
@@hp201279
Yes... but that is a K-tag issue... Theoretically shouldn't happen... possibly because as mine, is a clone K-tag...
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GOOD VIDEO TUTORIAL
i want to buy this tool
please
can you put link for this tool with all its adapters and accessories
good luck
Hi
Have a look here...
Cardiagtool.co.uk
Buy at you own risk...
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The ecutech.co.uk link not working! Can you give me correct link?
Hi
Is .info... I forgot to update it...
Done now...
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hello group can anyone help me through remote assistance to install k-tag & kess software. I have two ecus to program EDC17CP14 and ST102F75. GREETING
Hi , Where you get the file ?
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Which file?
Have you watched the entire video?
7:26
@@LMAutoRepairs yeah every time you upload something i watch the entire video i have learned a lot from you thanks
@@youssefelj.4797
As I have explained in the video Youssef, i sent the file to ecutech, which did what I have requested, and then he sent it back to me... so basically was the same file I have downloaded from the ecu, but with a few mods...
Thank you for follow the channel!
Really appreciated!
Thanks
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Basically I need to reflash TC1797 now how do I do that mmmmm my kess and ktag doesnt detect computer what can I do ?
Double check connections, and make sure you are using the correct protocol...
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Good sir thanks
Thanks!
What is can- and cat+ ?
Hi
www.csselectronics.com/screen/page/simple-intro-to-can-bus/language/en
Hope that helps...
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@@LMAutoRepairs you just amazing full of links and info i really adore you thank you so so much.am reading a lot about you.
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Nice sir
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Your video is not good explanation how to install that wire cable to the ecu pin point conection....???from k tag....
Is not good because you don't have the tool...
Buy the tool and you will see how the connections are made...
@@LMAutoRepairs oww great...thanks so much maybe i must try that....
Great
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We’re in Cambs r u.
Hi I do everything like you but never read.
Double check connections, soldering point, power supply, etc...
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u mean ecutechtune.co.uk ?
No... he updated the website and I forgot to update the description... is now done...
ecutech.info
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Tc1797 not Tc1757
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My bad...
Corrected!
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Você é português?
Sim...
Obrigado!
@@LMAutoRepairs eu tanbem e tenho acompanhado a sua paguina com frequência e que desconfiei que o Windows que tem no computador esta em português
Grande abraco
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Tenho una mistura... alguns estão em português, outros em inglês... depende de qual é o cd do Windows que aparece primeiro.... lol
Obrigado por seguires...
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@@LMAutoRepairs tanbem trabalho no ramo e na mesma especialidade de 💪💪💪💪
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Mas eu faço isto em part time... lol
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is your ktag master or slave
Master...
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how did you get alientech to support your clone tool ?
where are you located at ? it seems like you know what youre doing and Id like for you to take care of my car
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Thanks!
What exactly are you looking for?
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@@LMAutoRepairs I have a 2015 Passat TDI CVCA and after visit to local VW my car has next to no torque !!! I got a malone stage 2 tune and that helped only for couple of weeks and now it is back to what I started with :( car feels as if I was going 4k rpm when gauage shows 2k :( and engine is so much louder ! malone aknowledges my issue and really dont know what is wrong with my car since the file off from my computer looks completly fine ! I have been told that they use some software to dump tune and that could fix it but i really dont know how and what to do... can you possibly help ?
@@LMAutoRepairs they use something called eeprom programmer but I cant get it to work on my laptop and honestly im sick of it already lol
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Ok, let me see if I got that correctly...
You have the car remaped before you went to the dealer... and after the car went there, came back with all those problems... is that correct?
@@LMAutoRepairs yes sir !