Jack Johnson AKA Aloha Kayak Angler Adventures I really was expecting some loss of clarity, but surprisingly it’s still clear and detailed like how it was when it was in the transducer scupper.
@@pingpong808 Nice install walkthough! I have a similar Garmin Echomap mounted under my Ocean Kayak Trident Ultra 4.3. When I installed a layer of plastic taken from an old kayak, as a scrape shield, I couldn't get readings deeper than 100ft. Your transducer is able to shoot through your hull and still read in 300ft plus? Maybe your sonar has more penetration. Great how-to videos!
Hawaii Nearshore Fishing So far so good. I just have to make sure I add enough water. I think maximum depth I recorded was around 500, which is more than enough in my opinion. At first I was worried about the reduction in transmission signal when shooting through plastic hull, but it occurred to me that with the stock Hobie transducer mounting location, the transducer is still transmitting through the plastic cover plate. I think the one thing you have to make sure in your installation is that there are no air bubbles attached between the plastic and transducer while in the water. Air bubbles can get trapped if the gap is not enough. Also gotta make sure it’s clear of sand. Maybe a couple solid whacks with your heel to dislodge any bubbles and sand will help.
@@pingpong808 Sorry, I wasn't too clear in my earlier comment. My transducer is mounted in the under hull pocket of the Trident, and is exposed to the water. Putting a plastic cover over the transducer reduced the ability to read echo returns but in hindsight I may have been able to receive the returns if I had switched to narrower/stronger 77KHZ frequency. If you're able to receive signal at 500ft, that's plenty good!
Hawaii Nearshore Fishing Yes, gotta go with the lower freq. Back when I was still learning(lol, I’m still learning), I found that the higher frequency settings didn’t work for deeper waters. Awesome that you have the earlier Garmin Echomaps with the smaller transducers. The newer ones have monster transducers that are a pain to install on a kayak.
Duct seal works great for small transducers, but the chances of getting an air bubble/air void is greater when using the method with larger transducers. Just gotta have proper preparation and be careful with the installation I guess. And since I’m usually working in water that is up to 600 ft deep, I want a reliable and accurate reading on my sounder.
PJ Jackson It’s not permanent, and it’s easily to reposition. It’s best to do it on a hot day, or in the sun so that the duct seal is soft and easy to work. And rolling the transducer onto/into the duct seal is better than just shoving it in to prevent air pockets.
I have mine done with Spray foam and I'm not getting a good reading at all, I'm trying to use it for down imaging, and no structure pops out. Does water really help being submerged or is my transducer not mounted right?
Middle State Fishing I’m pretty sure you need to have it submerged in water, or mounted with “duct seal” with no bubbles/voids. The transducer needs a “coupler”, in this case water(or “duct seal” ) to help transmit sonar waves through the hull, and finally into the ocean/lake water. If you have spray foam in between the transducer and the hull, all the air bubbles in the foam will basically absorb the sonar waves. Hope this helps.
Bro..your rod holder setup has to be the coolest I have seen on a revolution 16..I just picked up the 2019 revolution 16 and would love to make the rod holder setup same as yours.. would you be able to make a detailed video on it? Will be really helpful
Prabin Prabhakaran Thank you! I just wanted something lower profile for better kayak stability. I’m not needing to build another right now, but I can do a quick video describing it and the parts that I used, if that would help.
Thanks for the vid! So do you tip the kayak in its side at the end of the day to drain the water? Is it a pain? I’m wondering whether to use water, or goop. Thx!
ButeoLineatus I put it in a tray so it can be submerged in water, and therefore transmit sonar. I add water up to the top and put the cover on right before I launch.
Hey bud I was thinking of something very similar myself an I like that someone else came up with a similar idea, but please next time don't talk about squishing or pulling off your balls lmao sorry man I had to joke a lil about it..
The water allows the transducer to transmit/receive sonar through it, through the plastic hull, and the water on the other side. Using water is more reliable than using silicone sealant or ductseal because it is less likely to have air bubbles which can disrupt the sonar signals.
That’s a great idea, I’m thinking of doing that with my out back!
Inpired, tanks fo' da vid. Going in hull for my ProFisha 475 and looking at foam frame and water but I like your container...be well...NorCal...
I just always stayed with lowrance and bought the external hobie scupper mount the visibility is so much clearer than through the hull
Jack Johnson AKA Aloha Kayak Angler Adventures I really was expecting some loss of clarity, but surprisingly it’s still clear and detailed like how it was when it was in the transducer scupper.
@@pingpong808 Nice install walkthough! I have a similar Garmin Echomap mounted under my Ocean Kayak Trident Ultra 4.3. When I installed a layer of plastic taken from an old kayak, as a scrape shield, I couldn't get readings deeper than 100ft. Your transducer is able to shoot through your hull and still read in 300ft plus? Maybe your sonar has more penetration. Great how-to videos!
Hawaii Nearshore Fishing So far so good. I just have to make sure I add enough water. I think maximum depth I recorded was around 500, which is more than enough in my opinion.
At first I was worried about the reduction in transmission signal when shooting through plastic hull, but it occurred to me that with the stock Hobie transducer mounting location, the transducer is still transmitting through the plastic cover plate.
I think the one thing you have to make sure in your installation is that there are no air bubbles attached between the plastic and transducer while in the water. Air bubbles can get trapped if the gap is not enough. Also gotta make sure it’s clear of sand. Maybe a couple solid whacks with your heel to dislodge any bubbles and sand will help.
@@pingpong808 Sorry, I wasn't too clear in my earlier comment. My transducer is mounted in the under hull pocket of the Trident, and is exposed to the water. Putting a plastic cover over the transducer reduced the ability to read echo returns but in hindsight I may have been able to receive the returns if I had switched to narrower/stronger 77KHZ frequency. If you're able to receive signal at 500ft, that's plenty good!
Hawaii Nearshore Fishing Yes, gotta go with the lower freq. Back when I was still learning(lol, I’m still learning), I found that the higher frequency settings didn’t work for deeper waters.
Awesome that you have the earlier Garmin Echomaps with the smaller transducers. The newer ones have monster transducers that are a pain to install on a kayak.
I just bought velcro straps with backsiding tape going put it inside haul hoping it works never used a fish finder its a striker 4 4cv vivid
Didnt work at all on my boat, 2d, or any of the other, going to try the scupper hole idea.
Curious what kind of problems you heard about not using water and submerging the transducer in duct seal only?
Duct seal works great for small transducers, but the chances of getting an air bubble/air void is greater when using the method with larger transducers. Just gotta have proper preparation and be careful with the installation I guess. And since I’m usually working in water that is up to 600 ft deep, I want a reliable and accurate reading on my sounder.
@@pingpong808 Is the transducer permanent once pressed into the duct seal? If I mess up, can I take it off without messing up the transducer?
PJ Jackson It’s not permanent, and it’s easily to reposition. It’s best to do it on a hot day, or in the sun so that the duct seal is soft and easy to work. And rolling the transducer onto/into the duct seal is better than just shoving it in to prevent air pockets.
@@anonymous_friend Exactly my question also
@@pingpong808 Thanks for the answer!!
Did it work
which model fishfinder do you have? And if it has side image how does that work? thanks
I've been curious about this too. Cant get any good feedback on it!
I would also like to know if it had side sonar and how did it work
Doesn't look like he has side imaging, that's not the same transducer
I have mine done with Spray foam and I'm not getting a good reading at all, I'm trying to use it for down imaging, and no structure pops out. Does water really help being submerged or is my transducer not mounted right?
Middle State Fishing I’m pretty sure you need to have it submerged in water, or mounted with “duct seal” with no bubbles/voids. The transducer needs a “coupler”, in this case water(or “duct seal” ) to help transmit sonar waves through the hull, and finally into the ocean/lake water. If you have spray foam in between the transducer and the hull, all the air bubbles in the foam will basically absorb the sonar waves.
Hope this helps.
@@pingpong808 are you using ClearVu on your unit? If so, are you getting an accurate reading this way??
Bro..your rod holder setup has to be the coolest I have seen on a revolution 16..I just picked up the 2019 revolution 16 and would love to make the rod holder setup same as yours.. would you be able to make a detailed video on it? Will be really helpful
Prabin Prabhakaran Thank you! I just wanted something lower profile for better kayak stability. I’m not needing to build another right now, but I can do a quick video describing it and the parts that I used, if that would help.
Thanks for the vid! So do you tip the kayak in its side at the end of the day to drain the water? Is it a pain? I’m wondering whether to use water, or goop. Thx!
Easy to drain. I just use a car wash sponge and/or a cheap super-soaker toy with a pointed tip.
How's this holding up?
PSA: this only works with 2D sonar. Hull through will NOT work with side imaging and/or down imaging.
On sale at West Marine...Must have cost a little more than other stores still
I have the same transducer and I'm getting frustrated with it.
Jay Tactical Frustrated with it’s size, or operation? It’s big size does make it harder to install.
Why did you put the transducer in a tray?
ButeoLineatus I put it in a tray so it can be submerged in water, and therefore transmit sonar. I add water up to the top and put the cover on right before I launch.
Hey bud I was thinking of something very similar myself an I like that someone else came up with a similar idea, but please next time don't talk about squishing or pulling off your balls lmao sorry man I had to joke a lil about it..
Why would you need to add water to it?
The water allows the transducer to transmit/receive sonar through it, through the plastic hull, and the water on the other side. Using water is more reliable than using silicone sealant or ductseal because it is less likely to have air bubbles which can disrupt the sonar signals.