NEW STAR WARS FAN WATCHES OLD LIGHT SABER DUELS TO SEE IF THEY ARE BETTER!!!!
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Fun tidbit: for the final fight between Obi Wan and Maul, the actors Ewan and Ray were so hyped and practiced this fight for so long, they moved too fast for the camera. The directors used a special camera setting to *slow down* the action instead of the usually used one that *speeds up* the scenes.
Yeah, actual heart went into these movies.
plus they had to remind the actors not to make lightsaber noises when they are fighting lol
I like how the lightsabers in the prequel trilogy treat them like actual weightless weapons. They do tons of tricks like flips and twirls and have intense choreography because you basically have to be a super human to wield one in the first place. 😅
It does have weight
For Jedi it's nothing
For non Jedi
Its hard to use and dangerous
@@lag00n54for example Pre Visla with the darksaber
Canon lore lightsabers. Weapons used by Jedi and Sith or ex Jedi and Sith that have mastered certain styles of combat that are exclusive to their training. No one else in the Galaxy can just pick up a lightsaber and start swinging it with ease. Hence why the storyline of Rey is garbage. At least with Kylo Ren (or Ben solo) Luke trained him to use a lightsaber properly. Luke received proper saber training from Obi Wan on the Millennium Falcon and eventually mastered using it in Return of the Jedi, notice how in a New Hope Luke uses a blaster instead of the lightsaber. But nah, Rey just knows how to use it instantly. Making the sequels bullshit.
bro its a sword out of light and light is weightless so i dont understand youre problem and the fights from the prequels are the best
@@MaxAugust-ys1nk the sabers have weight
it was never stated it was weightless
if it was they wouldn't need to swing it at all
they'd be moving around how you would be waving a flashlight
and people still needs training to wield it properly, look how mando used the darksaber he couldn't swing it properly he had a hard time swinging it and caused him problems
You said "Those kicks be personal," and you're absolutely right. There's an in-universe saying: "If you go after the padawan, make sure the master is dead." And Maul definitely went after the padawan there.
Yoda is like 880 years old at this point
Fr though
He ded :(
@@elanimal2323Bro got the "missing body" age.💀
His species can live till a Milenia. . . . . .so in human years it's like old man in his late 70's
Even though phantom menace is an older movie, the actor who plays obi wan (Ewan McGregor) is the same one in the obi wan series.
Ewan’s the goat
@@BishopLV2agreed!! ❤🔥
Also fun fact his Uncle played Wedge in the original trilogy
I know I love the fact most of his family has been in starwars. His daughter played the girl that tried to sell him drugs in the Obi wan series, and his wife plays Hera syndulla in the ashoka series.
Too bad that show was atrocious
Those movies are about 20 years old now. Back then they where at the cutting edge of digital filmmaking. If I remember correctly, these movies more or less invented the entire field.
These movies were the next largest leap in digital filmmaking of the time. Before that Terminator 2 was revolutionary leap. These things came in steps and phases
It's a toss up between these and Lord of the Rings.
I think LOTR has better special effects though and utilizes CG better.
And yes, before anybody mentions it I am aware that Lucas still used miniatures, sets, etc. I just think some of the CG looks bad or isn't properly used.
You know what’s crazy about all these new Star Wars fans? I can’t even imagine what it’s like because I was exposed to Star Wars at such a young age. I don’t remember what it felt like watching it for the first time.
Same man same, breaks my heart wondering what it’s like to react to them at 29 for the first time but at the same time I feel so blessed seeing new people react to the originals and prequels and being able to educate them on the stuff they don’t understand but I’m super glad that I’ve experienced what I’ve gotten to with watching them when I did, particularly being able to properly show my appreciation for Hayden and Ewan at celebration this year, it was amazing
Same here.
I've met people who's never seen any Star Wars and it blows my mind.
Keep in mind that the original trilogy was made in the late seventies and early eighties. They basically had to invent methods to make the lightsabers work on film. The duel between Obi-Wan and Vader on the Death Star in Episode 4 is from 1977 and the very first time someone tried that kind of special effect. That movie gave birth to Industrial Lights and Magic, the first dedicated special effects company. There was no CGI, there was no green screen. It was extremely difficult to do the effects and that meant quick motions weren't possible. Also, nobody had any idea what a lightsaber fight should look like and Alec Guiness, playing Obi-Wan, wasn't the youngest. The prequels did much more impressive fights, so did the animated series (Clone Wars and Rebels, mostly).
thats what makes the sequels and newer shows lightsaber fights so disappointing to me, because IMO they really had it nailed down straight for the prequels where the fights were fast and acrobatic but now the sabers look heavy, and slow.
@@fknpanda7280yea. That's because so many panned the prequels when they came out and complained that the lightsaber dueling was "ballerina dancing" so when making the sequels they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
@@Schwartzbruder1 i personally dont agree with the "ballerina dancing" argument, i mean the prequels were meant to show jedi at their peak compared to the Original trilogy, they literally had to slow down some fight scenes like obi wan vs maul in TPM because they moved so quickly so its jarring to go from those 20 year old scenes to modern ones and it being worse now. But they seemed to have gone for the cheaper option nowadays, opting to use big LED lightsabers that are heavier and give a natural lighting effect rather than using the thin steel and alluminum rods which allow for faster movement and just add the effects later in post, the choreography is definitely held back by the new sabers so its sad to see
personly if you wanna see a fight that is better then obi-wan vs Vader then i recomend obi-van vs anakin
You mean Obi WAN’s first fight against Vader. He never fought Anakin.
@@chewy99. I mean the fight on Mustafa where Obi wan fought anakin
@@profdrguenter1055he just means that anakin was vader by that point, he wouldn't have fought obi wan otherwise
@@chewy99.The obiwan show🤷♂️
@@NileMcKenna no...
Ah, the good old days when light sabers actually killed opponents.
They explained later that Qui-Gon was functionally dead already when Maul hit him with his lightsaber. He basically pushed the nasal bones back into his skull so the stab was just to be sure. Also its funny you mention that when Maul doesn't die after being cut in half.
@@AssassinRyuu Retroactively. Maul should have stayed dead and as far as I'm concerned, any setting where he survived should be considered non-canon, this includes the entirety of The Clone Wars.
@@Lord_Numpty Normally I would agree with you but Darth Sion's body completely fell apart and he could stay alive because of his rage and strength in the force. It's not unreasonable for Maul to do the same.
It's more like 20 years old. The Obi Wan vs Vader fight you need to watch is the 1st duel from episode 3.
Try obi wan vs anakin from revenge of the sith it shows why vader needs his suit to live and why obi wan blamed himself for vader other than being the one who trained him
@freddycashbear2164 by now anyone would know that vader is a skywalker cause it is no secret that vader is lukes father and anakin is the only one who is a skywalker and alive in those movies
The two greatest lightsaber duels in the series imo are Anakin vs Obi Wan and Ahsoka vs Maul. I think you'd enjoy both of those. You saw bits of the Ahsoka vs Maul fight in the Ahsoka video but there' still quite a bit more to it.
Old Obi Wan vs old Maul is up there as well.
@@MarcelJ. true, but that one doesnt really hit without knowing the full story of their history
Don't forget Sidious vs Maul and his Brother (i forgot his name xD)
@@AngelBitesTheDust The brother is Savage Oppress. The fight has awesome setting and art, but it falls a little flat in choregraphy, it looks too stilted for me to be considered top tier.
@@PokeJoshNY It's still got the best choreography out of all of them, even if the thin lightsabers are just atrocious.
Dude should watch the SWTOR cutscences. Some really great fight choreography in those!
The Phantom Menace is actually 24 years old. It dropped in 1999 which is crazy to think about. Episode 1 came out in 1999, Ep 2 came out in 2002 and Ep 3 came out in 2005. These movies are nearly as old as I am.
Qui-Gon Jinn was so powerful that he predicted the future in that little amount of time, too bad Obi-Wan had to take his mantle and train Anakin.
anakin needed a father figure not a brother, qui would have been the perfect master for him
@@1jidion That's the whole point with "Duel of the Fates". Qui-Gon dying was the turning point, which cemented Anakin's fate of turning to the dark side. If Qui-Gon hadn't died, then Anakin would never have turned.
@@jrny20 kinda goes back to anakin needing a father not a brother
@@1jidion Yep.
Your right about mauls final blow on qui gon being nothing more than a dirty move, in canon i believe even maul himself didnt like how he was forced to do it. Since in his eyes he didnt beat qui gon, he merely tricked him
Maul shouldn't have been so disappointed in himself. He needed to take qui-g-g out before obi could join the fight again and make it uneven. So his tactics was justified
@@R2RKITOyea but I guess what irked maul was that it wasn’t the glorious killing of a Jedi that he wanted, but any smart person would have done the same thing maul did
How is check bumping someone a dirty move.
Obi wan could use force sprint basically super speed. But he couldn’t sprint because if he did the doors would have sliced him to pieces if he timed it wrong
The Phantom Menace is over 20 years old actually, not 10.
Released 1999 to be specific, so 24 years old.
fact 1:ray park is one of the best things to happen to the franchise!fact 2:disney turned the swords into children's light pointers.they don't kill anyone,and even bounce off their victims!nightmare!
Characters get stabbed THROUGH THE CHEST multiple times in Disney star wars, and are TOTALLY fine literally immediately afterwards. Sometimes with ZERO medical attention even!
Finn gets slashed up his back with a lighstaber, his jacket isn't even singed.
Kylo gets slashed in the FACE by a lighstaber, just turns it into a fashion statement.
Kylo gets impaled by a lightsaber, Rey just HEALS a fatal lightsaber wound! Meanwhile Anakin's force ghost is in the background going "OH WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!?"
If a faceless storm trooper gets slashed by a lightsaber though, they WILL die, but you know they've died because there will be lines on their armor, not because they get like cut in half or beheaded or anything. Not like Star Wars has ever done stuff like that.
You know you can really sum up Disney Star Wars by pointing out ONE thing. At the PEAK, the GRAND FINALE of their trilogy, episode 9 Rise of Skywalker, Palpatine "has become all the Sith" and his power is maximum and he's shooting FLEET DESTROYING LIGHTNING at Rey.
Rey then becomes ALL THE JEDI, and they FORGOT to have her use the force at all....... Yeah, she just blocks his FLEET DESTROYING LIGHTNING with a lightsaber, then she picks up a SECOND lightsaber and blocks it perfectly, and she DOESN'T use any force powers at all, and she walks towards Palpatine and because he just doesn't stop shooting lightning at her, it disintegrates him. It's already established the FORCE can block lightning, but they just forgot to have her use the force which you'd THINK is what "being all the jedi" would power up, like it did with Palpatine. The Force by the way, as demonstrated in this very video, was established to be able to block force lightning, TWENTY YEARS AGO. And these movies are all still canon too, not that Disney gives a shit about that.
Then after Palpatine dies to his own lightning, Rey also dies, for NO reason. She blocked all his lightning, she was NEVER injured (she's never injured in any way this entire trilogy) and she didn't use the force AT ALL, but she just dies. Then Kylo brings her back to life and dies instead, and unlike Rey, Kylo disappears immediately.
That's how you summarize Disney Star Wars. "Look at the colors and lights you stupid monkeys and give us your money."
No logic. No story. No effort. No heart. No talent. They can't even connect the events of a single scene, they make weapons disappear when they're just not convenient, like Kylo's blaster when the Knights of Ren show up to betray him for no established reason. And they steal from Avengers Endgame "I am all the Jedi", they steal from Endgame a lot actually, and they just have spectacle and one liner, and they want her to die so she just DOES despite nothing happening that would cause her to die.
Disney Star Wars is awful and there's a very good reason it's not making money anymore.
That Dule Blade lightsaber that Darth Maul has, is actually a relic.... First used by Darth Zannah who was the Apprentice of *DARTH BANE*
yo that door opening from Darth Maul with the force is the most badass thing in this scene
Actually it was said later, that Obi wan used dark side to keep up with Maul, Maul however knows how to handle dark side user, Obi also used cheap tactic to kill him
The part that everyone forgets about lightsaber duels in old vs. new type comparisons: the lightsaber duels in the OG's were a lot more personal. Darth Vader was Luke's father and Obi-Wan's old apprentice. So their connection was what made the duels feel so epic. In the prequels, there's a lore established of generational HATRED between Jedi and Sith. That's why during fights between Jedi and Sith, there is usually very little personal dialogue; because they already made up their minds about motivation in this fight: KILL the other. They don't care who the other person is; Jedi are Jedi and Sith are Sith. If they knew each other before they knew they were of opposite ideologies, THEN they'll have a personal connection in a fight and reason to speak during the duel. Otherwise, they just going straight for the kill. Yoda knew Palpatine as a Chancellor, that's why he spoke with Sidious. Yoda trained Dooku personally, that's why he spoke with Tyrannus. Obi-Wan and Anakin are master and apprentice, that's why they spoke. But Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan NEVER knew Maul. All they saw was a dude with a red lightsaber; so they knew: this guy was a Sith and had to die. They didn't care to get to know him, not even when the ray shields rose; only that he was a dead man walking.
Ahsoka vs Maul and then Anakin vs Obi which is the greatest fight of all SW.
It still amazes me that maul survived off of the pure hate of obi-wan cutting him in half
All time greatest Lightsaber duel. Ep.3 Obi - Ani, no competition!!!
Sequel duels: how kids fight
OT duels: how adults fight
Prequel duels: how Legends fight
So fun watching you see this classic battles for the first time!
My dude, you don't understand just how happy I was - how absolutely PROUD I was when you IMMEDIATELY picked up on Darth Maul's dirty trick, hitting Qui-Gon in the face with his saber hilt. For a first time viewer, to have noticed that detail, you are clearly a very perceptive and intelligent individual.
I think I speak for a lot of people watching when I say, you make Star Wars fans proud, man.
I didn’t know people watched new Star Wars without seeing the prequels and OT. especially since everything new is still heavily based on the previous films.
you need to watch the old republic cinematics that shit is so good
“This dude a menace”
👁️👄👁️
The Obi Wan and Qui Gin fight with Mail is when Obi Wan was Qui Gons apprentice. A very young Obi Wan.
‘The force is strong with this ….. huh’ made me die 😂 3:55
I think that what the new lightsabers fights lack of is the weight, but in the responsability of using one, you know. Before the Disney era, a lightsaber was a duel between the light and the darkness, and whoever came victorious would mold the galaxy to their liking.
Nowadays in the new era, even if you are stabbed by one, you are ok as long as you are the protagonist of the story.
Where is the burden of having the lightsaber? Where is the responsability? And, Where are the abilities that separated the padawan to the master? The last fights that I saw in the Obi-wan serie was so good, not gonna lie, but everything else was just filling, didn't matter at all, and the Inquisitors were supposed to be the big menaces that Obi-wan confronted, and they were meh for me.
IMO they really had it nailed down straight for the prequels where the fights were fast and acrobatic but now the sabers look heavy, and slow in the sequels and disney shows. Instead of acrobatics we just get more force powers that they can add in later, so in a way theyve become alot lazier. i dont understand why they had to switch to LED lightsabers which slow down the choreography when they could just add the lighting affect that they grant later in post and we could have much more convincing physical fights like in the prequels and even ESB or RoTJ
Lol. Go figure Maul's looking like a "menace" in the Phantom menace!
Remember maul survived that dual and became like general grievous
The Darth Maul fight to this day is the best bit of choreography in all of Star Wars. Especially that bit when Obi Wan comes at Maul after the fall of his master. It wasn’t some cute little Jedi twirly ballerina bullshit. It was aggressive and controlled. It was simply a man who was determined to get his revenge.
11:54 It is a little over 10+ years old mate, it came out in 1999, so about 24+ yrs ago
Drazu, if ur thinking of watching starwars, disney plus got it all I'm chronological order.
Starwars has a story similarly structured to JoJo.
You got to main films and the side parts which add to the story
Release order, meanwhile, is blasphemous. Release order is strictly for stubborn boomers who have no clue what star wars is doing.
@@SwiftJustice I don't get what u mean, are you mad at me or other fans?
@@SwiftJustice "But that one twist!"
The Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul is actually nearly a quarter century old lol It was made in 1999.
fun fact, Maul actually was disgusted at himself for what he did to Qui-Gon, Qui-gon was a worthy opponent and Maul was unhappy he gave into fear and used such an underhanded tactic on him, he wanted to fight Qui-gon equally and not use such moves on someone he found to be admirable
I recomend you the old republic trailer
"This is 10+ years old!" Try 24 😭
“The force is strong with this Nigga” Sent me bro💀🤣
haha I like like how he says 10+ years old when phantom is 24 years ago xD
Obi Wan is the GOAT. He fought Darth Maul as a padawan...and won. Fought and killed General Grievous. He then fought new Darth Vader, which is a dark side Anakin Skywalker in his prime(that had just killed the greatest sabre duelist to ever live). Then he fought Darth Vader again and won. And finally, he fought a vengeance-fueled Darth Maul a second time, killing him in 2 swings of his sabre. Nobody has a history quite like Obi Wan Kenobi.
So many good ones. There is an Obi Wan Darth Vader duel from the show Obi Wan Kenobi from last year. It’s fantastic.
Yes that is Evan being Obi-Wan trough entire prequel trilogy
The movie with darth maul is actually 20+ years old now, but you know, close enough. XD
The Phantom Menace came out in early 1999. So that scene was not merely 10+ years old. It was almost quarter of a century ago. But if you want a lightsaber duel to "react to"... then this is what you want.
TH-cam search this.... Star Wars SC 38 Reimagined
It will likely blow your mind.
"The force is strong with this n-word huh" 😂😂
I read the title of old light saver fights….then I got sad cause these can out when I was a teen lol
That young obi-wan is the same actor as in the Obi-Wan vs Vader fight you watched
I love the reaction of Sequel fans to the superior Prequel trilogy, the duels, the battles, the cgi
All the flipping around is part of form 4 of lightsaber combat both Yoda and Palpatine were masters of all 7 forms.
“Like 10 years old and lookin this good”
Brother try 24 👌
Imagine a fan of the OF Trilogy, when they first read the Novelization of the Prequels, they got more context to why things are happening. But in ROTS duuude the Movie get Better by 50 times
The best lightsaber dual is probably Anakin vs Obi-Wan or Ahsoka vs Darth Maul
I agree, but I would also recommend Sidious vs Maul and his Brother (I forgot his name)
Saw phantom menace back in theaters when I was little
Bro rots is so good oh yeah and it's qui gon like cry gone
Broski there’s lots of Star Wars content follow the timeline with the clone wars animated series
The prequels were the last time lightsaber duels were good.
Until the kenobi season finale and ahsoka show
Yes... its not even comparable
How are these considered "old light saber duels" these are THE lightsaber duels
You really should check out Dooku vs Anakin & Obi-wan, then Yoda. I think you'll enjoy.
Yoda is using the lighting to go back at him
Obi-Wan was known as "the best swordsman in the galaxy." (eventually)
Not exactly. He became the master of sword form 3. Known for defensive style fighting. Dooku was in fact the best swordsman in the galaxy
Kit Fisto was master of form 1
Imagine him watching Ani V Obi xD
The Phantom Menace is more than 20 years old ny guy😂
Bro we need to see u watching the obi-wan vs anakin fight and the Obi-wan vs vader fight
Let it be known that the Prequels are as old *now* as the originals were when the prequels came out.
How come anyone who gets stab these days is more or less able to survive it😂
Obi Wan vs anakin had to be next!
Gotta watch the Empire Strikes Back lightsaber duel
Should see the *first* Obi-wan vs Vader fight
"10+ plus years old" Well it came out in 1999 so you're not wrong I guess 😅
The Maul vs Jin and Kenobi fight is over 20 years old and looks better than the new stuff
Star Wars mop kid looks better than the new stuff.
The new stuff is just fucking baseball bats and awful choreography. Like the actors just DON'T know how to swordfight or anything to the point Rey will kick one person and 3 people she never touched will fly backward. Then she needs the editor to save her by removing an entire knife so she's not stabbed in the back cause they don't plan ANYTHING out. In Rise of Skywalker Kylo literally has his saber up, he crouches, holds the saber behind his back, like hilt near his waist and the blade is pointing up his back, and he's just sitting there waiting for one of HIS fucking knights who are apparently very unloyal to him, to hit his lightsaber, and then he does, and then Kylo is like satisfied and stands up to continue swinging his lightsaber at them. These people, by the way, who could not even INJURE him, while he was UNARMED.
Then there's the Kenobi show, which was the same thing, awful baseball bats, just swinging them a lot, no finesse at all, but they jangle keys in front of people by just going "Ahhhh Obi Wan is lifting like a MOUNTAIN of rocks..... Probably should've done that a few other times, actually. Might've saved his life, when Vader... Killed him. Hm."
Ahsoka. AHSOKA! That's the WORST. Ahsoka moves like she's doing fucking tai chi when her fighting style is supposed to be VERY fast and super agile. Watching her deflect blaster fire is torture, cause she just slowly moves her sabers around and blaster bolts just appear to hit them. It's like the troopers are AIMING at her lightsabers, not at her. When they do that STUPID Anakin episode, it's actually satisfying to see Hayden come in and STYLE on her slow ass. Watching him fight is such a stark difference to Ahsoka's garbage actress.
Then of course there's the single biggest problem Disney has done to lightsabers. They are NO LONGER LETHAL. They just keep doing this, and they've done it since episode 7, twice in one scene actually. Getting hit by a lightsaber is at BEST slightly annoying, and at ABSOLUTE worst requires a fade to black, then that person is 100% fine in the literal next scene. In Ahsoka Sabine has a LIGHTSABER shoved through her torso, left there FOR A WHILE, and then pulled out. She is then 100% recovered THE NEXT DAY.
In Kenobi Reva is stabbed with a lightsaber TWICE, once as a literal child, and again as an adult, and BOTH times she just gets up with NO MEDICAL ATTENTION and is totally fine!
Lightsabers aren't dangerous anymore, they're just baseball bats.
the funny thing about people saying that the Obi-wan vs. Vader wasn't as good as the old ones is that, that movie is the very first Star Wars movie ever made. George Lucas made them 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3 and then Disney took over and ran it into the ground.
You should see the Dual of the Fates fight.
Also watch all the saber fights from 2 and 3
Yes culture this man show him why we hate the new duels ugh
U gotta watch a couple of the animated ones, watch palpatine vs maul and savage and ahsoka Vs vader
This is lightsaber duels should've been, not the baseball batting we got presented from disney, it is insane that they had to slow down some of the battles because they were going too fast lmao..
I bet you'd like reacting to all of Clone Wars
Bro needs to see dearth sidious vs savage oppress and maul
That battle was fire
You need to get 800 Years old, then you can do flips like Yoda.
Back when lightsabers were deadly
You gotta see Obi wan vs anakin from episode 3
Bro hardcore recommendation for reaction Ashoka vs Maul on Mandalore. Bro behind the scenes video for that duel shows the dude who does mauls fighting style as well. It’s badass man!!
How they spin sabers if they have no weight?
These effects was made in 1980-2010.Nah it's crazy
Maul was here for smoke, nothing more nothing less.
Over 20 years old lol
Ah yes. Back when lightsabers could kill. Although Maul actually survived getting chopped in half.
At least he didn't just get nicked by the 10k+ degree seord.
Anyone else hate it when reactors talk over important/badass lines in these scenes and completely miss it
SERIOUSLY
Original trilogy light saber duels: a little basic but still good. Manages to have good tension and whatnot.
Prequel duels: brilliant and amazing
Sequel duels: 😐😑
The prequels are what martial art looks like, The sequels are what MCdojo's look like on a monday morning.
Every *TRUE* Star Wars fan knows what a "fight" looks like in star wars.