Nice demo. I game the 10.5 plus but weight draw and at 12D. That combo really helps with over fading. I sometimes wonder how it would perform against the G410 SFT with a swing weight of D1 as opposed to D3 in the plus. I agree on your point of consistency. Moving up in loft however your dispersion number looked better at 9 degree on average at +/-4 carry. At lease front to back.Could not see left to right dispersion. The human factor is hard to control in such tests but clearly you can indeed see the difference in carry as a function of launch angle. So often it's a game of carry vs consistent dispersion. Stay safe during the VID!
Hi Ali, i play off 7 and when i adjusted my TM Driver from 9.5 deg to 11.5 deg i started to over draw every shot.I tried this setting on a higher tee and the ball was not able to be controlled, ie, huge hooks.I then rest the club to 9.5 Deg and decreased the tee height to 1 half of the ball above the top of the driver. Result, much better contact and accuracy.I then decreased the ball height further and low slight fade shots were easy to play, with no loss of distance due to firm fairways. I think this idea of hitting up on the ball is over rated, as it does not increase accuracy, but rather encourages off balanced shots and all sorts of muscle strains.I have experienced injuries trying to hit up on a ball that was teed up higher than the top of my driver.My average driving distance now, when balanced and using my own swing is 250 Meters plus. Thanks for this vid , it was great.
Very good video as my dispersion isn’t great... may adjust loft now we can get playing as would rather have less distance but better dispersion thank you
I used to have a 7.5 driver back in my 20s and smashed a drive once in a tourney 350 yards. My single best memory of that club. But man it was hard to hit! 10.5 for 99% of people out there is best idea!!
Really helpful information! I'm going to head to the top tracer and try some different loft settings out. I never touch the settings, just keep it 10.5 and neutral, but thought maybe dropping it down half a degree may help reduce my launch and spin which can be quite high.
I have a Callaway maverick and I tried the 10.5 than switched it to the 12.5 than down to the 9.5 and finally did the 11.5 and neutral and I am hitting the ball 25 yards further on the 11.5 loft than any other of the lofts on my maverick
@@rogerschock1389 had the same experience with my with speedzone. Tried it all and jacked it up 1 to 11.5 and hitting it better and straighter. I wonder if a 9* head jacked up to 10 would have similar results.
Hi Ali ,thanks for the video. Have some questions, the F9 9*, if you change setting to 8* the face will get more open at address, and if set to10* face would look closed? But,if you do same things I just mentioned with Ping G410 9*, the 8* & 10* settings will look square because of the new Ping adapter? In other words, the new Ping adapter allows you to change loft and remain square?
Great video..i been playing around with loft..I like the 9.5 but have more control with the 10..loss a little yardage but take the good with the bad..its on the ping G410 plus.!
I can guarantee that I am, I tried lofting down my driver because I was hitting it well but felt I was losing rollout. Lofted it down from 10.5° to 9.5° then back to 10°. At the lower lofts the face just felt dead and I wasn't hitting it well. Back up to 10.5° and I'm smashing it.
Ali - would be interesting to see your take on shaft weights - some now around 50-55 grms - which will effect swing speed and therefore club he’d speed and delivery - could you look at that? Hard to get into shaft profile etc but defo swing weight especially as most retail clubs are going higher loft and light shafts thanks
Very informative and well explained. I did notice your swing speed dropped 2mph on the 12° , any reason for that ? I'm hitting the G400 at 10.5 and its killing me. Way too much spin based in my delivery and club head speed (108). I'm total distance at 260-270. In comparison to my old R15 @ 10.5 I was total at 280-285... Subscribed!
Great vid, question I’ve been struggling with. I know custom fit is always the answer but as a high handicapper with a fade/slice what are your thoughts on the following. Desperately want a Ping g410 driver in my bag but don’t want to be locked into the SFT draw driver. With slow swing speed could I go with a 9’ G410 plus but loft it up to close face. Then if I ever work on my game and path I could always de loft back to 9’. I’m just worried about getting a 10.5 but having to lift it up to 12.5 to help with the fade.
Nathan, I had problems with slice, but purchased a Cobra with a 11.5 loft. Absolutely helped, however you do lose a little distance but make up for it with accuracy. Good luck⛳
I'd like to see you hit the 9 degree driver with a 6 or 7 degree angle of attack as we know the lower the degree driver, the higher the ball on the tee and the higher the aoa should be.
Great video Ali. My swing speed is very similar to yours and hit between 3-5 degrees up on it as well. I play with my Driver at 10.5 degrees. I could get about 10yds more distance by playing it with 9 degrees, but at 10.5 degrees I get more consistency and hit more fairways.
I have always struggled with a slice with my driver. Last Saturday (first round after lock-down) I sliced it horribly. Today at the range I cranked my loft up to 12.5 degrees on my Callaway Rogue and pulled the ball back a little in my stance. Upping the loft also turns the toe in helping me square the face. It helped a lot. Hopefully when I play tomorrow I can keep the ball in play off the tee more than Saturday.
One of best Ping staffers is Lee Westwood - also regarded as one of best drivers of the ball - when others were using 9 degree drivers he was up at 11.5 degrees - enough said!
Drivers can actually start to go longer as they age. This is a problem on the PGA tour and sometimes a player's driver fails a compliance test because of that.
Just ordered a ping g410 after getting fitted, been ordered in a 12 deg as I was hitting it further, straighter and more consistently than the 10.5. Currently using a G400 at 10 deg but adjusted to 11, every swing will differ, for me it was about the numbers on the results not the deg of the driver feeding an ego, have used 12 deg in the past and the amount of people have commented on the loft is ridiculous.
Hello Ali. My club head speed is approx 130mph but I can't get the ball in the air. I think it is because I am using iron swing with driver therefore it is a overly steep attack angle with my 9.5 degree driver. What is the highest degree lifted driver on the market so I can counteract this problem?
Was using a 14.5° loft and only hitting 180-190yards with a HARD slice. Swapped to 9.5° and, using the same swing, shot up to between 270-280yards with far more accuracy. Gonna experiment with 10.5° to try to find a nice middle ground for my swing. Edit: I am a beginner in my first year of consistent practice and playing golf. These adjustments are soooo crucial, imo
U must mean 270 total not carry. Beacuse if u hit as a beginner 270-280 carry you must have a swing speed around 110-115mph atleast then ur a wonderchild
I have a slow swing (80 mph) I have taken a cobra speed zone put a project X shaft 45 gram cut the shaft 1 inch on the driver head I have a 14 gram weight forward 4 gram on the back adjusted the lift to 11.5 degrees the results were amazing
It would be unusual for you to need a different head quickly, if after 2-3 years you may find a newer head performs better as well. Thanks for watching.
I am finding with the newer drivers, many having the CG further back, the lower lofted settings work better. I have the same Ping G410 plus you used but in 9 degrees standard and a late model Srixon. The Ping is set at 8 degrees and the Srixon 9.5. I had to deloft the Ping because the standard 9 degree loft was going a bit high and with too much spin. This was not the case with my previous Ping G30 LST 10.5 degree driver and its more forward CG. The Srixon is a low spin driver and the standard 9.5 loft works well.
Does me head in get on the link's,, told to hit higher, looks great then, your mate's hit a low running shot ,,20yds past,,I think shaft s make a difference,, but then get fitted by a pro high is good 🤔🤔☹️ps carrying 2 drivers 9plus12,, cheers Alan 🤗
10 degree g400 LST,only 205-210carry but loadsa run,tried higher loft,same carry much less role,hit 9/10 fairways,6 handicap 57 years old,lower loft my friend
Have tried every loft from 11.5 to 8 and nothing works better for me than 10.5 and I swing around 110mph/160 ball speed. I play the G400 Max also. I had 9 degree head and misses were worse and ball flight was dead and low. 10.5 all day for me!
I have just purchased a King Cobra LTD with a Graphite Design Tour AD 6S shaft. I tried all the settings and the best for me is the 10.5 Draw setting. Can hit some bombs when high on the face.
I have an 8.5 titleist stiff shaft. Teeing low it blooms up and I lose distance. Teeing it high skies and blooms up a little. I have the athleticism to hit 300 but my drives go 265-275 at the driving range. Help me I want to hit 300 so bad.
you don't; pay attention to spin-loft. Swinging easier with driver often produces longer drives because spin comes down for most players; most players, when they swing faster (harder usually but brain tells you that the swing is much faster when in reality it really is negligible), so, when they swing "faster" with driver add a ton of spin to the ball which kills the distance.
I am disabled and old, lol My swing up to 82.5, I have my Cobra Bio cell same loft as yours. Hit it at 12, carry 185 . Would more loft help me get more?? Attack 3, spin 3200 or more. Anyone?
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At which swing speed do you consider increasing loft?
Nice demo. I game the 10.5 plus but weight draw and at 12D. That combo really helps with over fading. I sometimes wonder how it would perform against the G410 SFT with a swing weight of D1 as opposed to D3 in the plus. I agree on your point of consistency. Moving up in loft however your dispersion number looked better at 9 degree on average at +/-4 carry. At lease front to back.Could not see left to right dispersion. The human factor is hard to control in such tests but clearly you can indeed see the difference in carry as a function of launch angle. So often it's a game of carry vs consistent dispersion. Stay safe during the VID!
Thanks, damn the human element!!
Really, really great video. Like your simple and clear explanations. Thank you.
Hi Ali, i play off 7 and when i adjusted my TM Driver from 9.5 deg to 11.5 deg i started to over draw every shot.I tried this setting on a higher tee and the ball was not able to be controlled, ie, huge hooks.I then rest the club to 9.5 Deg and decreased the tee height to 1 half of the ball above the top of the driver. Result, much better contact and accuracy.I then decreased the ball height further and low slight fade shots were easy to play, with no loss of distance due to firm fairways. I think this idea of hitting up on the ball is over rated, as it does not increase accuracy, but rather encourages off balanced shots and all sorts of muscle strains.I have experienced injuries trying to hit up on a ball that was teed up higher than the top of my driver.My average driving distance now, when balanced and using my own swing is 250 Meters plus.
Thanks for this vid , it was great.
For maximum distance, you have to hit up on the ball. With that said, if it is working there is no need for you to fix it.
Very good video as my dispersion isn’t great... may adjust loft now we can get playing as would rather have less distance but better dispersion thank you
I used to have a 7.5 driver back in my 20s and smashed a drive once in a tourney 350 yards. My single best memory of that club. But man it was hard to hit! 10.5 for 99% of people out there is best idea!!
Thanks
Great video. U definitely answered a question with the loft l am playing with. Thanks 👍
Really helpful information! I'm going to head to the top tracer and try some different loft settings out. I never touch the settings, just keep it 10.5 and neutral, but thought maybe dropping it down half a degree may help reduce my launch and spin which can be quite high.
I have a Callaway maverick and I tried the 10.5 than switched it to the 12.5 than down to the 9.5 and finally did the 11.5 and neutral and I am hitting the ball 25 yards further on the 11.5 loft than any other of the lofts on my maverick
@@rogerschock1389 had the same experience with my with speedzone. Tried it all and jacked it up 1 to 11.5 and hitting it better and straighter. I wonder if a 9* head jacked up to 10 would have similar results.
Hi Ali ,thanks for the video. Have some questions, the F9 9*, if you change setting to 8* the face will get more open at address, and if set to10* face would look closed? But,if you do same things I just mentioned with Ping G410 9*, the 8* & 10* settings will look square because of the new Ping adapter? In other words, the new Ping adapter allows you to change loft and remain square?
Vivito IsRight yes and callaway has the same feature if you change the loft in callaway it doesn’t open or shut the face.
Great video..i been playing around with loft..I like the 9.5 but have more control with the 10..loss a little yardage but take the good with the bad..its on the ping G410 plus.!
I hit fuckin bombs with my new 9.0 but have also developed wormburner some shots
I can guarantee that I am, I tried lofting down my driver because I was hitting it well but felt I was losing rollout. Lofted it down from 10.5° to 9.5° then back to 10°. At the lower lofts the face just felt dead and I wasn't hitting it well. Back up to 10.5° and I'm smashing it.
Keep up the good work
Ali - would be interesting to see your take on shaft weights - some now around 50-55 grms - which will effect swing speed and therefore club he’d speed and delivery - could you look at that? Hard to get into shaft profile etc but defo swing weight especially as most retail clubs are going higher loft and light shafts thanks
As soon as I'm back in the studio I'll see what I cam do.
Second game today guys, four balls by July👍
Very informative and well explained. I did notice your swing speed dropped 2mph on the 12° , any reason for that ? I'm hitting the G400 at 10.5 and its killing me. Way too much spin based in my delivery and club head speed (108). I'm total distance at 260-270. In comparison to my old R15 @ 10.5 I was total at 280-285...
Subscribed!
Thank you, no reason for the drop in speed, just swing to swing
Please let me know what setup projector do you use, which app or machine to trace the ball?
I would like to setup the same at home thanks
I moved my driver up 2 degrees a couple of weeks ago....and I've yet to miss a fairway.
and you still shoot a 98 on a weekly basis
@@bnzstheboy6520 bit of a nasty comment!
Great vid, question I’ve been struggling with. I know custom fit is always the answer but as a high handicapper with a fade/slice what are your thoughts on the following.
Desperately want a Ping g410 driver in my bag but don’t want to be locked into the SFT draw driver. With slow swing speed could I go with a 9’ G410 plus but loft it up to close face.
Then if I ever work on my game and path I could always de loft back to 9’. I’m just worried about getting a 10.5 but having to lift it up to 12.5 to help with the fade.
Get fitted, then you will have all the info to make the best informed decision.
AliTaylorGolf 🤣 I knew that was going to be the answer. Just hoping for a silver bullet like everyone else.
Nathan, I had problems with slice, but purchased a Cobra with a 11.5 loft. Absolutely helped, however you do lose a little distance but make up for it with accuracy. Good luck⛳
I'd like to see you hit the 9 degree driver with a 6 or 7 degree angle of attack as we know the lower the degree driver, the higher the ball on the tee and the higher the aoa should be.
Great video Ali. My swing speed is very similar to yours and hit between 3-5 degrees up on it as well. I play with my Driver at 10.5 degrees. I could get about 10yds more distance by playing it with 9 degrees, but at 10.5 degrees I get more consistency and hit more fairways.
All down to what is more important.
How did u just pound grip/shaft down to adjust it to 9degrees?
I have always struggled with a slice with my driver. Last Saturday (first round after lock-down) I sliced it horribly. Today at the range I cranked my loft up to 12.5 degrees on my Callaway Rogue and pulled the ball back a little in my stance. Upping the loft also turns the toe in helping me square the face. It helped a lot. Hopefully when I play tomorrow I can keep the ball in play off the tee more than Saturday.
Well done, good luck Saturday
Good question Ali. Do you think there is more need for higher loft if the swing speed was slower at say club speed of 90mph ?
Generally but it really depends on club delivery.
How do I adjust it (G410) ?
One of best Ping staffers is Lee Westwood - also regarded as one of best drivers of the ball - when others were using 9 degree drivers he was up at 11.5 degrees - enough said!
You should always use what works best, leave the ego at home.
How many ball strikes before a drivers loses its pop? When do you start noticing degradations performance?
Drivers can actually start to go longer as they age. This is a problem on the PGA tour and sometimes a player's driver fails a compliance test because of that.
Great video, great advice
Thanks
Just ordered a ping g410 after getting fitted, been ordered in a 12 deg as I was hitting it further, straighter and more consistently than the 10.5. Currently using a G400 at 10 deg but adjusted to 11, every swing will differ, for me it was about the numbers on the results not the deg of the driver feeding an ego, have used 12 deg in the past and the amount of people have commented on the loft is ridiculous.
Hello Ali. My club head speed is approx 130mph but I can't get the ball in the air. I think it is because I am using iron swing with driver therefore it is a overly steep attack angle with my 9.5 degree driver. What is the highest degree lifted driver on the market so I can counteract this problem?
Your swing speed is actually not 130
Was using a 14.5° loft and only hitting 180-190yards with a HARD slice. Swapped to 9.5° and, using the same swing, shot up to between 270-280yards with far more accuracy. Gonna experiment with 10.5° to try to find a nice middle ground for my swing.
Edit: I am a beginner in my first year of consistent practice and playing golf. These adjustments are soooo crucial, imo
U must mean 270 total not carry. Beacuse if u hit as a beginner 270-280 carry you must have a swing speed around 110-115mph atleast then ur a wonderchild
ive got a TM R1 Ive changed the loft several times and i really dont see a whole lot of differents in the yardage
What you said there about 12 looks a softer ball flight that's how mine looks compared to a strong penetrating ball flight
It what scenario would you adjust your loft during your round?
Not allowed in official tournament
I have a slow swing (80 mph) I have taken a cobra speed zone put a project X shaft 45 gram cut the shaft 1 inch on the driver head I have a 14 gram weight forward 4 gram on the back adjusted the lift to 11.5 degrees the results were amazing
How would i be able to get my 10.5 degree loft driver down to maybe a 5 degree loft or even 7.5?
Quality video getting fitted is fine but all the top brands dont refit apart from pxg as far as i am aware
It would be unusual for you to need a different head quickly, if after 2-3 years you may find a newer head performs better as well. Thanks for watching.
I have the G410 plus..when I turn the loft down to a 9.the lie angle seem way off
I am finding with the newer drivers, many having the CG further back, the lower lofted settings work better. I have the same Ping G410 plus you used but in 9 degrees standard and a late model Srixon. The Ping is set at 8 degrees and the Srixon 9.5. I had to deloft the Ping because the standard 9 degree loft was going a bit high and with too much spin. This was not the case with my previous Ping G30 LST 10.5 degree driver and its more forward CG. The Srixon is a low spin driver and the standard 9.5 loft works well.
All about finding what works.
Does me head in get on the link's,, told to hit higher, looks great then, your mate's hit a low running shot ,,20yds past,,I think shaft s make a difference,, but then get fitted by a pro high is good 🤔🤔☹️ps carrying 2 drivers 9plus12,, cheers Alan 🤗
My launch is 15 deg 2800 spin 110-115mph 285yd carry 9.5 deg driver would a 8.5 deg driver be better ??
Maybe tweak your 9.5 and see
10 degree g400 LST,only 205-210carry but loadsa run,tried higher loft,same carry much less role,hit 9/10 fairways,6 handicap 57 years old,lower loft my friend
accuracy is another factor
Have tried every loft from 11.5 to 8 and nothing works better for me than 10.5 and I swing around 110mph/160 ball speed. I play the G400 Max also. I had 9 degree head and misses were worse and ball flight was dead and low. 10.5 all day for me!
Thanks
Loft is your friend.
I have just purchased a King Cobra LTD with a Graphite Design Tour AD 6S shaft. I tried all the settings and the best for me is the 10.5 Draw setting. Can hit some bombs when high on the face.
I have an 8.5 titleist stiff shaft. Teeing low it blooms up and I lose distance. Teeing it high skies and blooms up a little. I have the athleticism to hit 300 but my drives go 265-275 at the driving range. Help me I want to hit 300 so bad.
Why do I need a higher swing speed with my driver to achieve the same distance with a three wood at lower swing speed ?
The head in 3 wood is heavier for the size
Thanks. Makes sense 👍
you don't; pay attention to spin-loft. Swinging easier with driver often produces longer drives because spin comes down for most players; most players, when they swing faster (harder usually but brain tells you that the swing is much faster when in reality it really is negligible), so, when they swing "faster" with driver add a ton of spin to the ball which kills the distance.
I’m a southpaw and every drive was pulled right…it’s really weird cuz I’ve never hit balls right.
Nice one Rocky
I am disabled and old, lol
My swing up to 82.5, I have my Cobra Bio cell same loft as yours. Hit it at 12, carry 185 . Would more loft help me get more?? Attack 3, spin 3200 or more. Anyone?
More loft will probably create more spin. I know it sounds obvious but try to swing quicker for more distance.
I have a 430cc 16° taylormade sldr driver it is awesome. Cool story.
Sldr is absolute trash lol
It’s actually kind of funny… bc unless u hv a Doppelgänger swing w this guy, these results r meaningless!!
Start ur own, high handicap channel
And for the creator, assemble a team of: high, mid & low handicap (no Oxford comma!), and conduct that field test
👍👍👍
I dont think at 290 yards carry that i need to get 10 more yards😂
You always need 10 more yards even if you are lying.
@@shrimpflea why would i be lying about my own yardage????