What a relaxing voice! She was a delight to watch. As an early childhood educator in training here in Australia, I will for sure use this TED Talk as a future source for dealing with school readiness pre-school classrooms!
Dr. Fromberg is extremely well thought of in the early childhood teacher education community. We love the fact that she is sharing this message for people who have not thought about these issues as deeply and thoroughly as she has. Political concerns from administrators have over-shadowed these ideas and have made decisions about early childhood curriculum that only serve the system and not the child.
That was such a meaningful talk. There is a way to change the education. More authentic Montessori schools is the way for better education for the citizens of the future world.
For this talk to have happened as long ago as it did, it is concerning that early childhood education policies continue to slip further and further away from what is developmentally appropriate. A reflection of the fact that early childhood educators were notoriously absent from the scripting of our common core standards.
+Karen Bracken Are you suggesting working families who cannot do what you're suggesting don't love their children? High quality early childhood education provides exposure to advanced language, diversity, as well as math, science, and literature. Not to mention art, music, and social emotional development opportunities that children who live in densely populated areas, and all children, NEED. Go tell a parent working full time while in school trying hard to advance their family in a society that gives few opportunities for advancement to remove their child from a greatly appreciated, quality school and home school them...if they love them. I'd LOVE to see the reaction ;)
I think to get them out of school and to put them in to home-schooling is all dependant on which country that child is in. If you think of poverty in a majority of countries are they really better of by being home-schooled?
Another brilliant citizen, to go along with others I've seen on these talks, like J. Katz. "Principals fearful for their jobs, administrators fearful... teachers fearful..." - I'm sorry, but after a while this sounds like cowardice, and enabling. If enough teachers, principals, etc. realize these for-corporate profit tests and scripts are "child abuse", then why don't they inform and organize the parents and protest/strike? These companies raking in millions and paying off politicians are no different than drug cartels, result-wise. You ultimately either do something or you don't, as generations slip away. All of society eventually pays the price- people with kids and those without.
I also agree it is child abuse. The present education lobby who are making money in billions are actually worse than the drug cartels. One of our foremost leaders in this cause Sir Ken Robinson is no more. Please read his books, listen to his talks in You tube. He has spoken to us till his last days. We all owe it to him to do something about his vision.
In Switzerland (or at least in the area where I live) the cut-off date for entering kindergarten is pushed to just about ten days after a child turns 4. When I entered kindergarten it was about half a year after a child had turned 4. This meant the youngest of my classmates were 4,5 years old and the oldest were 5,5 years old. Back then some children were in kindergarten for two years, others just for one. The ones who only went to kindergarten for one year started a year later, at 5,5 to 6,5 years old. So one could say some children attended the first and the second kindergarten year and others only the second. Nowadays both kindergarten years are mandatory in the area of the country where I live. (Unless I'm REALLY mistaken. Most definitely it is EXTREMELY common to attend kindergarten for two years, starting at age 4 to 5 and leaving for school - first grade - at age 5 to 6.) What is expected of those children regarding their native language and maths is the following: They SHOULD be able to write their surname and they SHOULD be able to count to ten. They don't learn to read or write in kindergarten. They don't learn to add, subtract, multiply and divide in kindergarten. It's basically school for illiterates that can't count or do math AT ALL. And it is very normal even for very smart children to not be able to read on their first day in first grade. In first grade every week another letter of the alphabet is taught. I remember being in first grade in 1991/1992 and reading texts that consisted of nonsensical words because they comprised of only two letters of the alphabet. Switzerland has been known for having a good school system for decades now. Kindergarten pupils don't get homework assigned. And they don't sit on desks. They sit in a circle on small chairs singing with the kindergarten, discussing, telling stories, listening to stories with the kindergarten teacher and they sit on one big table where they all complete the same task like painting the cat from the book with the cat stories their teacher reads to them every morning. Kindergarten pupils attend kindergarten for about 22 45 minute lessons a week. 4 lessons each morning and 2 lessons on one afternoon.
I am agree we need those teachers, they are called moms and dads. Children don't need to go to school so early in life, they develop this abilities at home then master them in a school environment.
Even though I agree with many of the points she maid and knowing how knowledgeable she is I don't agree that Kindergarten teachers and education should be even more formalised that already is. It's a kindergarten!, primary education already comes with thousands of rules and regulations
How can we change the "system"? besides homeschooling. It seems like people are "woke" but the tests and assessments haven't stopped. We need to support the science behind early childhood development and keep devices out of pre-K - 6th grades. Yes, tech is everywhere but children don't need 12+ years to learn. Adults have learned quickly how to use the most current platforms without having to use/learn it throughout the school years. Maybe those of us that are concerned should write our Representatives on the Hill for support for our teachers and educators alike.
Push our reps to require VARK testing to replace standardized testing at early age. This test Evey child's learning style. Then the parent the teacher and child will know what works best for the individual child through out life. Demand the teachers teach each lesson in a 4 learning styles one day visual, next day auditory, next day, reading/writing, next day kinetics. This is how no child truly gets left behind.
Sorry so long in getting back to you :0), but what I as a Early Childhood Educator understood was Early Childhood is when children need to discover on their own. With intentional teaching, teachers develop lesson plans that let the children discover without us lecturing what they should be learning. She was correct about the pretend play leading into writing. I have used examples I have heard my kids playing in the dramatic play center and they use this as a spring board into what they write about. They do use each other's dialogue when they write if they like it better than their own. At first I have them draw a picture about what they did in the center and then they dictate what they are doing and I write exactly what they say. Eventually they take over the writing with assistance. The other message I understood, and this one is SO important, is the teacher AND the administration has to be versed in Early Ed. for the administration to be able to observe and provide advice, training, and/or grading on how the teacher did. I have had admin. in a middle/high school background who knew nothing about early ed. and did not know how to observe or score me on my observation. They would give me a great score, but I learned nothing from them and did not receive additional training I needed. The last message I understood was how corporate America was benefitting from providing standardized tests and the scripted lessons. Early Childhood teachers at my current school HAVE to make anchor charts with so much information on it there is no way a 5-8 could understand it. Oh, they look good on their boards or walls, but if they are not made for the students to use what is the point. These same teachers are having to read from the teacher editions or make cue cards so they will "say" just the right thing from the lesson. These same students are sitting at tables or desks and being lectured to without physically learning what the teacher is teaching. I hope I have shed some light on what she was saying. :0)
@@leighannestarks9178 SPOT ON!!! on ALL points!!!! One of the MOST important points Professor Fromberg elucidated WAS regarding the impact that corporate dollars/lobbying has played in what has happened to education in America. It IS NOT about what truly works best for children to support them in learning -- it's become about what is best for these companies' bottom lines!! Your illustration of the absurd and completely developmentally INAPPROPRIATE forms of learning that teachers are being FORCED to use with their children because the school systems have paid these "expert" corporate entities for their products which (according to the corporations) will ENSURE!! the children are able to pass the tests the school districts have also paid the same (or related) corporate entities for - to ASSESS the children's "learning"!! -- It's completely wrong on all levels. And what endless research has shown is that children do not actually learn this way. Children -- especially young children learn by DOING!!!! And even if some of the children have the capacity to retain the spoon-fed facts the teachers are able to get across using the pre-packaged lessons they are provided with - LONG ENOUGH - to actually correctly answer the test questions and pass these standardized tests -- the research regularly demonstrates that they do not RETAIN the information. Dry, rote-recitation/memorization is NOT learning. It is parroting. A great education teaches children HOW to learn. In order for a child to learn how to learn -- the child MUST be provided with the opportunity to explore, wonder, ponder, experiment, try and fail and try and fail again -- until they have that AH-HA!!! moment!!! This is not what is happening for children in our "teach to the test" schools that have been created by the corporate-driven policies of states and municipalities throughout our country today. What's really interesting is that -- in the elite private schools across America (The kinds of schools that the owners of these corporations that have sold these concepts/packaged education models to our public school systems send THEIR children to!! )--- Those schools do NOT uses these rote-recitation/teach to the test models at all!!! Those schools are filled with the kinds of freedom to explore and ponder and think and play all children need to grow and learn. Their curriculums are also fully based on what is actually developmentally appropriate for children's learning at every step of the way. The people of this nation need to know what has really happened to our education system -- and deeply understand that much of what is in place is not there because it's actually good for children -- but because it's enriching someone who has made considerable donations to the people we elected to create education policy. It's unfortunate -- but very true. And it's also very important to realize that the proof of it's efficacy -- or lack there-of -- is in the fact that most people of wealth and means do NOT send their children to the same schools that working and middle class Americans do. They choose something very different for their children. Enough said!
The vast majority of this is simply rambling with basically zero content. It's amazing how each sentence can seemingly convey something concrete, yet also convey nothing of substance. This is why I am disgusted with most Ted Talks. It's largely pretentious babble at best, and pretentious psedoscience at its worst.
I thought this presentation was amazingly well done. There was humor, compassion and you could feel the genuine love of teaching children.
What a relaxing voice! She was a delight to watch. As an early childhood educator in training here in Australia, I will for sure use this TED Talk as a future source for dealing with school readiness pre-school classrooms!
Dr. Fromberg is extremely well thought of in the early childhood teacher education community. We love the fact that she is sharing this message for people who have not thought about these issues as deeply and thoroughly as she has. Political concerns from administrators have over-shadowed these ideas and have made decisions about early childhood curriculum that only serve the system and not the child.
Very well thought presentation.
That was such a meaningful talk. There is a way to change the education. More authentic Montessori schools is the way for better education for the citizens of the future world.
what an amazing emphatic and smart human!
Too bad that very few people spend time truly listening to people like Doris. I completely agree with you.
Fantastic speech, thought provoking, so much realness. Thanks Doris and TedTalk! ------ Philippines
For this talk to have happened as long ago as it did, it is concerning that early childhood education policies continue to slip further and further away from what is developmentally appropriate. A reflection of the fact that early childhood educators were notoriously absent from the scripting of our common core standards.
If you love your children do them the biggest favor of their lives and get them out of the system and home school.
+Karen Bracken Are you suggesting working families who cannot do what you're suggesting don't love their children? High quality early childhood education provides exposure to advanced language, diversity, as well as math, science, and literature. Not to mention art, music, and social emotional development opportunities that children who live in densely populated areas, and all children, NEED. Go tell a parent working full time while in school trying hard to advance their family in a society that gives few opportunities for advancement to remove their child from a greatly appreciated, quality school and home school them...if they love them. I'd LOVE to see the reaction ;)
Gregory Van Acker obviously her statment was directed to parents who can afford to home school.
Tip: watch this at 1.5 x speed. She seems to talk at a regular speed
1.25 !!!
@@ReelAESklarzykVO Definitely helped lol
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Thank you for this tip!! I would have fallen asleep otherwise.
thank you! lol
I think to get them out of school and to put them in to home-schooling is all dependant on which country that child is in. If you think of poverty in a majority of countries are they really better of by being home-schooled?
Thank you for your talk!!
I found you!!! My mentor! Dr. Fromberg!
Another brilliant citizen, to go along with others I've seen on these talks, like J. Katz. "Principals fearful for their jobs, administrators fearful... teachers fearful..." - I'm sorry, but after a while this sounds like cowardice, and enabling. If enough teachers, principals, etc. realize these for-corporate profit tests and scripts are "child abuse", then why don't they inform and organize the parents and protest/strike? These companies raking in millions and paying off politicians are no different than drug cartels, result-wise. You ultimately either do something or you don't, as generations slip away. All of society eventually pays the price- people with kids and those without.
I also agree it is child abuse. The present education lobby who are making money in billions are actually worse than the drug cartels. One of our foremost leaders in this cause Sir Ken Robinson is no more. Please read his books, listen to his talks in You tube. He has spoken to us till his last days. We all owe it to him to do something about his vision.
In Switzerland (or at least in the area where I live) the cut-off date for entering kindergarten is pushed to just about ten days after a child turns 4. When I entered kindergarten it was about half a year after a child had turned 4. This meant the youngest of my classmates were 4,5 years old and the oldest were 5,5 years old. Back then some children were in kindergarten for two years, others just for one. The ones who only went to kindergarten for one year started a year later, at 5,5 to 6,5 years old. So one could say some children attended the first and the second kindergarten year and others only the second. Nowadays both kindergarten years are mandatory in the area of the country where I live. (Unless I'm REALLY mistaken. Most definitely it is EXTREMELY common to attend kindergarten for two years, starting at age 4 to 5 and leaving for school - first grade - at age 5 to 6.) What is expected of those children regarding their native language and maths is the following: They SHOULD be able to write their surname and they SHOULD be able to count to ten. They don't learn to read or write in kindergarten. They don't learn to add, subtract, multiply and divide in kindergarten. It's basically school for illiterates that can't count or do math AT ALL. And it is very normal even for very smart children to not be able to read on their first day in first grade. In first grade every week another letter of the alphabet is taught. I remember being in first grade in 1991/1992 and reading texts that consisted of nonsensical words because they comprised of only two letters of the alphabet. Switzerland has been known for having a good school system for decades now. Kindergarten pupils don't get homework assigned. And they don't sit on desks. They sit in a circle on small chairs singing with the kindergarten, discussing, telling stories, listening to stories with the kindergarten teacher and they sit on one big table where they all complete the same task like painting the cat from the book with the cat stories their teacher reads to them every morning. Kindergarten pupils attend kindergarten for about 22 45 minute lessons a week. 4 lessons each morning and 2 lessons on one afternoon.
I am agree we need those teachers, they are called moms and dads. Children don't need to go to school so early in life, they develop this abilities at home then master them in a school environment.
It was a great video, great motivation to start my own school. Hopefully it is going to be a great successful.
Even though I agree with many of the points she maid and knowing how knowledgeable she is I don't agree that Kindergarten teachers and education should be even more formalised that already is. It's a kindergarten!, primary education already comes with thousands of rules and regulations
How can we change the "system"? besides homeschooling. It seems like people are "woke" but the tests and assessments haven't stopped. We need to support the science behind early childhood development and keep devices out of pre-K - 6th grades. Yes, tech is everywhere but children don't need 12+ years to learn. Adults have learned quickly how to use the most current platforms without having to use/learn it throughout the school years. Maybe those of us that are concerned should write our Representatives on the Hill for support for our teachers and educators alike.
Push our reps to require VARK testing to replace standardized testing at early age. This test Evey child's learning style. Then the parent the teacher and child will know what works best for the individual child through out life. Demand the teachers teach each lesson in a 4 learning styles one day visual, next day auditory, next day, reading/writing, next day kinetics. This is how no child truly gets left behind.
hi assalam Prof ..glad with U ..very soft spoken your ..liked my ex lecturer Prof chiam Heng keng from UM Malaysia..I'm ameenatul rohayu
I always think this when I walk into a classroom.
Home school sucks if your home turns into a house....
perfect
Not quite sure what the message is here.
Sorry so long in getting back to you :0), but what I as a Early Childhood Educator understood was Early Childhood is when children need to discover on their own. With intentional teaching, teachers develop lesson plans that let the children discover without us lecturing what they should be learning. She was correct about the pretend play leading into writing. I have used examples I have heard my kids playing in the dramatic play center and they use this as a spring board into what they write about. They do use each other's dialogue when they write if they like it better than their own. At first I have them draw a picture about what they did in the center and then they dictate what they are doing and I write exactly what they say. Eventually they take over the writing with assistance.
The other message I understood, and this one is SO important, is the teacher AND the administration has to be versed in Early Ed. for the administration to be able to observe and provide advice, training, and/or grading on how the teacher did. I have had admin. in a middle/high school background who knew nothing about early ed. and did not know how to observe or score me on my observation. They would give me a great score, but I learned nothing from them and did not receive additional training I needed.
The last message I understood was how corporate America was benefitting from providing standardized tests and the scripted lessons. Early Childhood teachers at my current school HAVE to make anchor charts with so much information on it there is no way a 5-8 could understand it. Oh, they look good on their boards or walls, but if they are not made for the students to use what is the point. These same teachers are having to read from the teacher editions or make cue cards so they will "say" just the right thing from the lesson. These same students are sitting at tables or desks and being lectured to without physically learning what the teacher is teaching.
I hope I have shed some light on what she was saying. :0)
@@leighannestarks9178 SPOT ON!!! on ALL points!!!! One of the MOST important points Professor Fromberg elucidated WAS regarding the impact that corporate dollars/lobbying has played in what has happened to education in America. It IS NOT about what truly works best for children to support them in learning -- it's become about what is best for these companies' bottom lines!! Your illustration of the absurd and completely developmentally INAPPROPRIATE forms of learning that teachers are being FORCED to use with their children because the school systems have paid these "expert" corporate entities for their products which (according to the corporations) will ENSURE!! the children are able to pass the tests the school districts have also paid the same (or related) corporate entities for - to ASSESS the children's "learning"!! -- It's completely wrong on all levels. And what endless research has shown is that children do not actually learn this way. Children -- especially young children learn by DOING!!!! And even if some of the children have the capacity to retain the spoon-fed facts the teachers are able to get across using the pre-packaged lessons they are provided with - LONG ENOUGH - to actually correctly answer the test questions and pass these standardized tests -- the research regularly demonstrates that they do not RETAIN the information. Dry, rote-recitation/memorization is NOT learning. It is parroting. A great education teaches children HOW to learn. In order for a child to learn how to learn -- the child MUST be provided with the opportunity to explore, wonder, ponder, experiment, try and fail and try and fail again -- until they have that AH-HA!!! moment!!! This is not what is happening for children in our "teach to the test" schools that have been created by the corporate-driven policies of states and municipalities throughout our country today. What's really interesting is that -- in the elite private schools across America (The kinds of schools that the owners of these corporations that have sold these concepts/packaged education models to our public school systems send THEIR children to!! )--- Those schools do NOT uses these rote-recitation/teach to the test models at all!!! Those schools are filled with the kinds of freedom to explore and ponder and think and play all children need to grow and learn. Their curriculums are also fully based on what is actually developmentally appropriate for children's learning at every step of the way. The people of this nation need to know what has really happened to our education system -- and deeply understand that much of what is in place is not there because it's actually good for children -- but because it's enriching someone who has made considerable donations to the people we elected to create education policy. It's unfortunate -- but very true. And it's also very important to realize that the proof of it's efficacy -- or lack there-of -- is in the fact that most people of wealth and means do NOT send their children to the same schools that working and middle class Americans do. They choose something very different for their children. Enough said!
she is 83 years old she looks much less
Excellent
Nice speech. just I want to contact to MS Doris ..please Her email .
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The vast majority of this is simply rambling with basically zero content. It's amazing how each sentence can seemingly convey something concrete, yet also convey nothing of substance. This is why I am disgusted with most Ted Talks. It's largely pretentious babble at best, and pretentious psedoscience at its worst.