Thanks for watching friends! This video is quite old and not very indicative of where I'm at with my transition, gender, or content at the moment. Just so you know. 🫣💛💛 I encourage you to watch my newer videos if you want to see where I'm at with my transition now aha, I'm much further in my transition now, I've been on "full" feminising HRT for some time, and I do now just identify as a woman. Not necessarily binarily or traditionally but I don't use the label non-binary anymore. And to be completely honest, I think a lot of my perspective on hrt's changes to my body here were frankly not super accurate - most of my feminisation happened after blocking T, and in this video the changes I had were VERY minor. Also, I now predominantly make philosophy content on here! If you want to follow my transition specifically, the best place to do that is probably on my Instagram, instagram.com/marsintheory
omg I have been looking for something like this! I've been looking at HRT, but in a non-binary way, this resonates so much more than the trans girls doing the videos, even if I have gotten a ton of them. I need to start this video again immediately, so much feels right about it
Very appreciative of the time & energy you put into finding & sharing this information. It can be harder to find, either because people don't have the language to describe what they're looking for, or because we didn't even know the questions we needed to ask (like not knowing that medical transition comes with choices about options & correspondingly different results)!
@@marsintheory May i ask hard questions: The being loved because of and coolness of being trans will be there for 1st weeks mouths years. Then the regretting comes in? Realization of truth? Females bring on themselves an early menopause as they became FTMs? And males turned themselves into eunuchs as they became MTFs?
You definitely did a good job of editing this because I would not have known you had filmed for 40 minutes and cut it down to about 12 or 13. It was totally cohesive and easy to follow. And you do seem happier and more contented in this video, which is nice to see. Whatever makes you feel more like the real you is good.
Starting estrogen this week and my Testerone is low enough to go monotheropy. I also identify as NB Trans-feminine and not seeking surgical interventions. With all of the above I was beginning to think I was like alone in all of this 😅 thank you.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience and being so open about it. Glad you're feeling good and that you like your changes. All the best for the months/years to come 💜
So happy for you that your chest is validating to you. I'm pretty nervous about what could happen to me because of my genetics. Would be pretty disappointing to transition just to hide myself again.
I understand this sentiment. Truthfully starting estrogen I didn't know how big my breasts would get and this was a big fear of mine as well. Bear in mind that trans girls are usually at least 3 sizes down from other women in their family, and if you avoid progesterone and also don't block your testosterone it's unlikely you'll have much growth. Also, binders! I'm planning to buy one myself at some point.
Thank you so much for this! This is so incredibly helpful as I find myself as an amab non-binary femme thinking of medical transition. Please keep us updated with any more changes you might have.
This is extremely helpful for me. I'm a non binary person trying to decide what- if any- medical transitioning I should do and this information is really going to help me with that. It's nice to see a non binary approach to this proccess. Thank you for making this.
I usually watch nb transmasc videos and thinking if i want to medically transition. It's really interesting to listen to people who transition from an amab point of view, broadening the horizon you know :)
Just wanted to say that I'm so proud of you. The way you speak about things is immensely refreshing, authentic and beautiful. Absolutely love the way you spoke about the chest and just broke down the way we view these parts of our bodies and so on. Just thank you. There are so many people who need to hear this... ...and you look absolutely fab. Love you x
Happy to learn that your eye lashes has grown. I knew it can affect my face in general shape but not that eye lashes are impacted. Happy for your journey.
Thanks for sharing your journey with us. I have considered some amount of transition therapies, and you have the look and glow I dream of living in my own body. You give me gender euphoria and hope
Thank you for this! As a person who has only recently came out as non binary and is considering hrt, this video answers so many of my questions and its presentation makes me feel at ease ^_^
I couldn't stop smiling the whole way through this video. This is the most at-peace I have felt listening to someone's transition story. I'm 43, non-binary, mft, on hormones for 3 months. I finally realized I would always be confused about my gender, if I didn't experience some of what was missing. I don't have any goals, just learning to love myself. Thank you for sharing your story!!!!!
Another trans-femme enby here, ~5 months in on Spiro and E for me. Emotions were first thing for me within weeks, stronger and more depth to them. Within about a month breasts got tender, and sex drive also tanked, really don't have that NEED for it anymore, still fun though, harder to get there, but still able to perform (even now at 5+ months), much less mess though. Softer skin also within a month or so, still changing some. Facial shape also slightly changing. About 3 months in started noticing little bit of breast growth, at 5 months now, I am sure other people are probably noticing it, though they're not big (maybe an A cup), started presenting femme publicly 100% of the time around 4 month mark, so not at all trying to hide them from anyone. Hoping for some fat redistribution to my ass/thighs, I am a thick person, but have like negative ass with skinny chicken legs. There's absolutely NO WAY I would ever go back to how things were before, and while we were both a bit tentative of me starting HRT and it changing our relationship, my (cis-het) wife has also voiced that there's no way she would go back to "the old me" either, she may not be as physically attracted to me as before (I think she misses most my scruffy beard), but she still loves me with all her heart (as I do her). I am happy now, as result my moods are SO much better, and I am much easier/more pleasant to be around, I don't just shut down, I don't get so angry about everything, and with all the difficult conversations we've had to have since I came out, we've got SO MUCH better at communicating openly and honestly, no more hiding things.
that's a beautiful story. Curious - with your wife, you're saying she wouldn't go back to the old you even though she's less atracted to you, is that mainly because of how your moods and personality have changed?
@@empireoflightz Sorry for the delayed response, this is not my main account so only now seeing this. Yes, she's said it's the communication and my moods, I have far less anger, I had so much anger before, not that I was violent to her ever, but I would storm off, just 100% pissed off, into my "workshop" and break things, I scared myself like wondering what I would be capable of in a fit of rage, that's 100% gone, these days if I get mad like that I typically just break down crying, something that was nearly impossible for me before, and crying like that I feel better almost instantly afterwards. Also as an update I am over 1yr mark on HRT, not much change from above, some more breast growth, but still not huge (still probably in an A-cup), recently started progesterone a few weeks ago, in addition to the estradiol, but not noticed much changes yet from that, except maybe some better sleep, and maybe a minor libido boost.
I'm amazed at your transition. I've been on 1/2 of a full dose of e and Spiro for 3 months and have been happy with the changes, but I plan on stopping the Spiro after a few more months of transition.
Quinn, I know you’re talking about your non-binary transition at your house in Chelsea, London, England on this video for 6 months on hormones, it’s very important to do that, so I’m proud of you!!
Hey, you're a walking wonder :) Trans woman here, with suspected mild androgen insensitivity syndrome, started my HRT at 34. I was never really horny. Over 2 years on E (9 months on EE+CPA, then moved to EV injections), noticed softer skin pretty much right away. Not oily anymore. Got softer face too. As for eyelashes, mine looked pretty fem even before, but they might have changed too, I'm not sure. There's some breast development but not really that much. I gained a lot of weight over the course of HRT (15 kilos or so). I might go for lipofilling if I ever afford it. Hair growth slowed down too.
Hi Keri! Thanks for your comment, and for sharing about your own transition. Congratulations on your journey!! I've gained some weight specifically from hormone therapy myself, but I think that's starting to settle now. That was definitely a weird one when I started.
I was really excited too see this because I was wondering if you take a full female dose still as a non binary person? Are you also on testosterone blockers
Hi lovely, congratulations on starting HRT, that's so exciting !! I've always been on a "full female dose" but for most of my transition I haven't taken testosterone blockers. I talk about that more in my newest video if you're interested! There's a really great DIY HRT resource I found here about de-masculinisation instead of feminisation: transfemscience.org/articles/nonbinary-transfem-overview/
@@marsintheory I was planning to do both, I would basically like to have the smallest amount of testosterone as possible. I'm asexual so neither erection or sex drive matter and though I've never wanted bottom surgery, making it so I can't get and erection or orgasm makes my penis feel less of a masculine threat. Honestly I WAYYYYY PREFER THE FEELING AND EXCITED ENERGY FROM GENDER EUPHORIA THAN ORGASM ANYWAY, like I'm gonna be able to literally make my body look as feminine as possible because even though I'm gender fluid, even my most masculine times would be more suited to a body that looks feminine enough that when people " assume" my gender they would call me a girl. I think that the euphoria, actualization, and satisfaction at being able to now longer being misgenered as a male (I mean ppl should never assume gender but boomers, conservatives, red necks and Kyles are always gonna not only assume that your either only male or female and nothing else, so if it's between guy and girl I 1000% RATHER BE CALLED A GIRL OR CALLED MISS OR SHE! I've already began taking a supplement for females that warns men should avoid even touching the pills because it can be absorbed thru skin and has been shown to cause testosterone levels to drop with a pretty minor amount of it needed. That, my clothes, my hair and how I started walking and talking are a combination of girly feminine and queer lisp feminine. Like I always wondered why so queer dudes have that same girly lisp that is the stereotype of "how gay boys sound" I realized that it's mostly something that people subconsciously being to find themselves sounding like if they really want everyone to know "how feminine and gay I am" and because my family was so conservative and because I didn't grow up around gay friends I didn't start to become noticably girly and over the top and development of my own lisp. I also have been wearing my undercut in a pony tail with girly bangs and went from just the androgynous emo Black nail polish and occasionally eyeliner to foundation, mascara, eyeshadow, lipstick, bronzer and matchings my nails with the color of my outfit. I bought a couple of those shorts that so high cut it gets girls sent home from school, leggings, girls tunic t shirts. It's all very exciting, I've been called she miss homegirl and shawty a bunch of times in last month by new people I meet, and different places at partys, doctor, store, on the bus. I'll be honest it makes me feel good enough I don't even correct them 😅😅
Thank you for making this video, as a male I want to become non binary estrogen treatment to become more feminine in general. Thank you for your insight and experience!
I had the same breast-based thoughts as you on starting hormones, I'm non binary, I wanna be more feminine, sure, but I don't care too much about big breasts, like a B cup would be fine... three months in... F cups... ummm... heck.
Yeah, I think I saw your one year update straight after this one… I’ve kind of been on a trans timelines kick recently, trying to get a sense for what I can expect over the next couple of years (obviously realising mileage may vary, what with facial structures, just general luck, etc). I’m glad you’re happy with them now 🙂 tbh I’m hoping mine are just going to consolidate where they are now, maybe round out a little as they’re sort of teardrop shaped, not just keep expanding wildly, I am happy with them tbh, but they’re getting quite difficult to hide from my partner’s very religious grandma when we see her 😅
Omg this is my exact fear, I would love to have everything feminize, but its just the boobs that I dont really want, idk maybe it's bc of the fact that society will probably give me more shit if I were to grow boobs, but I would just prefer a little A cup ( which probably won't ne the case since all the women in my family have above F cups)
Hi! I'm NB transfem as well and was wondering (relating to this video specifically) how using estrogen without t-blockers affects, you know.. "shrinkage" and all that. I don't really want to shrink down there, but if it's unavoidable then it's just unavoidable I guess.
Hi Quinn. I'm from NYC but I'll be vacationing in London for a week sometime in the next 6 months. I'd love to meet for a friendship drink. I'm 74 and I love meeting interesting and intelligent people. I work as an usher on Broadway.
I do have a question actually. I'd like to transition basically like you, *however* I'm really into working out for strength and it seems like a waste to let all that muscle and strength go to waste. Any ideas?
depending if you would be going on estrogen or testosterone, either one wont immediately make you loose your strength. just keep doing that training, and you can definitely continue with your transition :) (if you also would be going on testosterone, it would help with muscle build a lot!) i wish you the best :)
Hey! Sorry for the slow response, I've been travelling the last couple weeks. Thanks for your question though! So this was actually one of my concerns with starting transition as well. I had also been working out (not much, but still) and I had built up some muscles and I was worried about losing them. Definitely estrogen can reduce your muscle mass, but I want to emphasise that that change is SLOW. I've been on hormones for nearly 7 months now, and I've noticed a slight loss in muscle, but I also haven't worked out hardly at all since I've started hormones. If you keep up regular strength training, you can maintain your muscles and even grow further - the same as any cis woman. This will be particularly true for you if you don't block your testosterone. If you do go on t-blockers, expect to see more reduction in muscle mass. But if you just do estrogen, you might not notice any loss at all, even after a long time. Bear in mind that girls can be absolutely massive muscly hunks too! ;) I hope that helps!
Thank you, your videos are so helpful! You mention being a pretty hairy person - how do you handle this? hair removal sucks and epilation has been the bane of my existence so far lol
I'm lucky in that there's a relatively affordable laser hair removal service here in London. I've been doing that on my face and body for over a year now and it's been absolute magic. If I was stuck with just waxing / epilation / shaving I would just be resigned to hairiness because I'm wayyyy too lazy haha. But I understand laser isn't affordable to everyone.
Also curious - you haven't been taking T blockers but you don't seem to have any facial hair (which even with T blockers is apparently usually pretty obstinate) did you have any of it permanently removed is it just a very clean shave? Asking because I'm not nearly to consider removing mine, but am quite worried about how it might look to have a feminine body type, skin and facial structure with facial hair once I start noticeably feminising. With you it doesn't seem like an issue at all!
I actually started facial hair removal before I started HRT, so that's a journey I've been on for a long time and one that I am still on. T-blockers do very little to affect facial hair growth - they can slow it down a small amount but they don't remove it.
I’m not sure if you mentioned it in the video and I just missed it, but how old are you? I’m kind of considering this but I feel like I may be too old :(
I started transitioning when I was 25, which is after male puberty is finished. Sending you lots of love if you decide that's right for yourself. Lots of us transition later in life, many much later than me.
I could be misremembering, but I thought estradiol was the one that caused thrombosis and a different one was safer? Then again if your doctor prescribed it it's probably fine.
Estradiol gel is, to the best of my knowledge, very safe. There is evidence to suggest there's a slightly higher risk of thrombosis in those undergoing HRT, especially for the first year, but I think that's with all forms of HRT.
Hey Quinn, I'm thinking about taking hormones. I just wonder, since I'm also a more fluffy hairy being, how did you get rid of your body hair and how did you get such gorgeous eyebrows?! *-* Thank you for the video. I really struggled with the decision, especially, as a non binary person... But your video and your happiness showed me that hormones and being non binary are a thing and can be beautiful... I hope you get my point :'D Thanks!
Hi Lu! Thanks for your comment! I'm also pretty naturally fluffy. My "natural" eyebrows are about 3 times bigger than in this video. I pluck them. It's a pain but I don't mind it. Find a shape you like, pencil around the edges, and then pluck everything outside the edges. With my body hair I'm now doing laser, but if you can't afford that I highly recommend waxing ! It helps a ton. And if you're on HRT that can help a lot with body hair. Not so much for me because I'm not blocking my testosterone, but it's helped other people a lot.
@@marsintheory Thanks so much for your reply! It's awesome to be able to ask those questions and it's so nice that you speak so openly about it. Thank very much for taking your time and making your videos. Please stay awesome ^-^ YFI: I'm still amazed how plucking your eyebrows and redraw can look so awesome. I guess I have to try it myself if this is what you get :D
If you're an adult and as long as you can afford it, the medicine cabinet is all yours. I wouldn't advise anybody to take anything in this video as anything other than an individual experience.
Thanks for the video, enjoyed getting your perspective as an enby just starting HRT. Just one thing - "as a non-binary person I never really wanted to have big tits" I think I see what you're trying to say here but it also comes across as if you might be saying non-binary people generally don't or shouldn't want big tits, which I really hope you aren't? As that seems like a general unspoken-but-sometimes-spoken convention in the community, which makes me (and i assume others) feel excluded
Hey! Thanks for your comment. I definitely didn't mean to say that non-binary people don't or shouldn't want big tits (which is also why I didn't say that). But I can see how that sentence could have been read as me implying being non-binary is a certain androgynous aesthetic which excludes big breasts. I just meant that being non-binary means that I don't feel an obligation to conform to any stereotypical, binary ideas of transition - one of which is, obviously, a desire for breast growth for amab people. There are loads of non-binary people who DO have large tits, some of which are afab, some of which are amab. Additionally lots of amab people do follow a more traditionally binary transition path whilst still identifying as non-binary - a category I myself fit into. And finally there are plenty of binary trans women who also don't want tits or want a small chest. Anyway I should have clarified all this better in the video - it's hard to speak on your own experiences online without excluding the experiences of others, but you're absolutely right, and the "enby experience" is enormously expansive, complex, and individual. Best of luck with your journey!
@@marsintheory thank you for the clarification, I assumed that was probably what you meant but I'm glad you clarified because I think some people might interpret it the other way and I felt sort of a tinge of that feeling of being excluded. But I also know how hard it is these days not to say something that might be interpreted wrongly by some person or another, it's a minefield especially when you're trying to be spontaneous and speak authentically rather than doing something rehearsed. So I appreciate you for making yourself vulnerable by doing that, keep it up 🙏🙏👌👌
Hey Nick! Sorry for the delayed response, I've been away from my laptop the last couple weeks. So if you're on hormones for, say, a month, you won't really have any changes which are irreversible. After that stage, some changes will be permanent, even if you get off hormones. If I were to get off hormones, some changes would revert, and some would not.
Thank you Quinn. You gave me a lot of useful information. I recently have been figuring myself out with great help from my wife. I do wonder if you noticed any changes to the male reproductive organ while on estrogen? Sorry if that intrusive but I have been having difficulty in finding any info online. Definitely going to sub and stick around for your journey, good luck to you.
Thanks Imoen! And that's not intrusive at all. I haven't blocked my testosterone and thus have had almost no change in my genitals, with the exception that orgasms feel slightly longer lasting and more full body then they used to. For people who block their testosterone, there's usually a decrease in libido and sexual function - but that varies from person to person. Thanks for your comment and for subbing!
Im non binary too but i do want as much brest growth as possible but probably wont get crazy cause i dont want full dose so far low dose anti androgen will add E in idk 6 to 10 weeks ish idk
I'm a bit confused... Why transitioning if you are not a binary person (and transitions are binary: trans-gender = from presentation more typical of one gender to one more typical of another)? I'm genuinely curious and asking a question :)
There are a variety of reasons a nonbinary person may decide to medically transition. They may identify more with the gender opposite their birth sex but not fully, they may wish to appear more androgynous by gaining some secondary sex characteristics of both male and female bodies, they may wish to lose some of the characteristics of their assigned gender at birth. Transgender simply means to identify as a gender different to the one assigned to you at birth, but even then some non binary people don't identify as trans. Ultimately it's quite an individualized decision with no one reason someone may decide it is right for them.
I was looking info on non binary trans fem transitioning you have lot of info on it and thanx for this video please make a video what doctor you seeing or you suggest
I need your assistance, I watched your video 3-4times and Followed what you said Took estorgen it's my 1st day and I have upset stomach. I am concern what is going to happen with me I am a non binary person wish to have a little feminine feature on my face and on my skin Also wish to know if you have done any surgery in this video FFS or etc Hoping for your revert and your help on this matter
What's weird is a lot of the effects of estrogen you've mentioned are things that are already true for me.. I'm a "gay man" but now I'm especially wondering if I should identify as non-binary lol
There is no should! You have to figure out whatever is right for you and your journey. Also your sex doesn't have to align with your gender identity - so even if you were, say, intersex or just naturally more feminine in your sex make-up, that doesn't mean you have to identify as non-binary. I actually noticed especially with personality, emotions, etc., that although estrogen amplified things, I had already been quite feminine in my sex make-up as well, at least internally, so I can relate to that a bit.
I often get told I have a very "international" or trans-atlantic accent. I'm from California but I've lived in the UK my entire adult life. So there you go haha.
My friends have been incredibly supportive. My family's found it extremely difficult but I can tell they're really trying, and we're still so early on that journey.
@@marsintheory iiiiinteresting…. Okay, I should watch that. I know someone who’s told me about serms before, though not really any details. I’m having trouble just getting set up with the basics though, prescription was called in really screwy when I was just trying to ask a few questions first 😕
@@Random51960 it means you stop being a girl/boy and become either both or neither (this can be either gender dysphoria as not becoming fully transgender or something else) Im very bad at explaining so i copied and pasted it from ✨WIKIPEDIA✨: Non-binary[a] and genderqueer are umbrella terms for gender identities that are not solely male or female-identities that are outside the gender binary.[2][3] Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella, since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex,[3] though some non-binary people do not consider themselves transgender.[4][5] Non-binary people may identify as an intermediate or separate third gender,[6] identify with more than one gender,[7][8] no gender, or have a fluctuating gender identity.[9] Gender identity is separate from sexual or romantic orientation:[10] non-binary people have various sexual orientations.[11] Being non-binary is also not the same as being intersex; most intersex people identify as either male or female.[12] Non-binary people as a group vary in their gender expressions, and some may reject gender identity altogether.[13] Some non-binary people are medically treated for gender dysphoria with surgery or hormones, as trans men and trans women often are.[14] ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
@@melissahunnybee2you so now you've switched your stance, recognise how much I've changed myself, but just think those changes are bad cause it's not how I was born? Glad we could clear that up. Nobody is born perfect. We're allowed to want to change our templates. Thank you for the engagement but now kindly take your judgemental transphobic ass someplace else. xx
I advise against taking hormones, you never know the adverse effects it might have, especially in the long run. Also, you look fine now, but you looked perfect as a guy, why change..? Why not just live with your body and emotions as they are naturally ? No offense, hugs all around..
We do pretty much know the effects, same as for cis people mostly. As for why change, pretty much for the same reason cis people won't. Doesn't match neurological sex, and can be wrong in various ways, including it being a form of body horror, as it would be for cis people if they were forced to.
Thanks for watching friends! This video is quite old and not very indicative of where I'm at with my transition, gender, or content at the moment. Just so you know. 🫣💛💛 I encourage you to watch my newer videos if you want to see where I'm at with my transition now aha, I'm much further in my transition now, I've been on "full" feminising HRT for some time, and I do now just identify as a woman. Not necessarily binarily or traditionally but I don't use the label non-binary anymore. And to be completely honest, I think a lot of my perspective on hrt's changes to my body here were frankly not super accurate - most of my feminisation happened after blocking T, and in this video the changes I had were VERY minor. Also, I now predominantly make philosophy content on here! If you want to follow my transition specifically, the best place to do that is probably on my Instagram, instagram.com/marsintheory
Wow omfg I just watched YOU LOOK AMAZING! If I didn't know I'd say u were AFAB fr fr! Ugh Im OD hype for my hormones to start !
So you use, gel estrogen?…I guess you could call that…
Ehem…
*GENDERFLUID*
Oh noooo the punsss xD
Well played my friend hahaha
omg I have been looking for something like this! I've been looking at HRT, but in a non-binary way, this resonates so much more than the trans girls doing the videos, even if I have gotten a ton of them. I need to start this video again immediately, so much feels right about it
I'm so happy to hear that! Thanks for watching!
I feel the exact same way as you Chevin, They are making me feel this is who I am ment to be 💜💙😁🤗🤗
Considering the horrific side effects of cross sex HRT should be the first objective.
hey wait a second i recognize that pfp
Very appreciative of the time & energy you put into finding & sharing this information. It can be harder to find, either because people don't have the language to describe what they're looking for, or because we didn't even know the questions we needed to ask (like not knowing that medical transition comes with choices about options & correspondingly different results)!
Thank you so much Sam!
@@marsintheory May i ask hard questions:
The being loved because of and coolness of being trans will be there for 1st
weeks
mouths
years.
Then the regretting comes in? Realization of truth?
Females bring on themselves an early menopause as they became FTMs?
And males turned themselves into eunuchs as they became MTFs?
You definitely did a good job of editing this because I would not have known you had filmed for 40 minutes and cut it down to about 12 or 13. It was totally cohesive and easy to follow. And you do seem happier and more contented in this video, which is nice to see. Whatever makes you feel more like the real you is good.
Haha thank you Lane! I really ought to have more of an outline / script sometimes. XD Really appreciate your kind comment, it means a lot!
Starting estrogen this week and my Testerone is low enough to go monotheropy. I also identify as NB Trans-feminine and not seeking surgical interventions.
With all of the above I was beginning to think I was like alone in all of this 😅 thank you.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience and being so open about it. Glad you're feeling good and that you like your changes. All the best for the months/years to come 💜
Thank you so much, it means a lot!
So happy for you that your chest is validating to you. I'm pretty nervous about what could happen to me because of my genetics. Would be pretty disappointing to transition just to hide myself again.
I understand this sentiment. Truthfully starting estrogen I didn't know how big my breasts would get and this was a big fear of mine as well. Bear in mind that trans girls are usually at least 3 sizes down from other women in their family, and if you avoid progesterone and also don't block your testosterone it's unlikely you'll have much growth. Also, binders! I'm planning to buy one myself at some point.
Thank you so much for this! This is so incredibly helpful as I find myself as an amab non-binary femme thinking of medical transition. Please keep us updated with any more changes you might have.
This is extremely helpful for me. I'm a non binary person trying to decide what- if any- medical transitioning I should do and this information is really going to help me with that. It's nice to see a non binary approach to this proccess. Thank you for making this.
Live your best life. Enjoy being you.
You seem really happy and you look amazing - great to explore yourself and have a new start towards a new chapter of your life! 🥳💙✅
Thank you Christian - that's so kind of you to say!
Congrats! I'm so happy for you. You look wicked 🤍
Thank you!!!!!! :D That's very kind!
I usually watch nb transmasc videos and thinking if i want to medically transition. It's really interesting to listen to people who transition from an amab point of view, broadening the horizon you know :)
Just wanted to say that I'm so proud of you. The way you speak about things is immensely refreshing, authentic and beautiful. Absolutely love the way you spoke about the chest and just broke down the way we view these parts of our bodies and so on. Just thank you. There are so many people who need to hear this...
...and you look absolutely fab. Love you x
Ah thank you so so so much. It means a lot to hear! And I appreciate the compliment haha. Hope you're doing well!
@@marsintheory You're the best. Sending much love x
Happy to learn that your eye lashes has grown. I knew it can affect my face in general shape but not that eye lashes are impacted.
Happy for your journey.
Thanks for sharing your journey with us. I have considered some amount of transition therapies, and you have the look and glow I dream of living in my own body. You give me gender euphoria and hope
Thank you for this! As a person who has only recently came out as non binary and is considering hrt, this video answers so many of my questions and its presentation makes me feel at ease ^_^
I couldn't stop smiling the whole way through this video. This is the most at-peace I have felt listening to someone's transition story. I'm 43, non-binary, mft, on hormones for 3 months. I finally realized I would always be confused about my gender, if I didn't experience some of what was missing. I don't have any goals, just learning to love myself.
Thank you for sharing your story!!!!!
The coolest part to me is that I lost 5cm in height from spinal compression during HRT. I'm 170 now lol
Ohhh NICE!!
congratulations on hitting 6 months, quinn! you look amazing!
Aw thank you so much! That means a lot!
Another trans-femme enby here, ~5 months in on Spiro and E for me. Emotions were first thing for me within weeks, stronger and more depth to them. Within about a month breasts got tender, and sex drive also tanked, really don't have that NEED for it anymore, still fun though, harder to get there, but still able to perform (even now at 5+ months), much less mess though. Softer skin also within a month or so, still changing some. Facial shape also slightly changing. About 3 months in started noticing little bit of breast growth, at 5 months now, I am sure other people are probably noticing it, though they're not big (maybe an A cup), started presenting femme publicly 100% of the time around 4 month mark, so not at all trying to hide them from anyone. Hoping for some fat redistribution to my ass/thighs, I am a thick person, but have like negative ass with skinny chicken legs.
There's absolutely NO WAY I would ever go back to how things were before, and while we were both a bit tentative of me starting HRT and it changing our relationship, my (cis-het) wife has also voiced that there's no way she would go back to "the old me" either, she may not be as physically attracted to me as before (I think she misses most my scruffy beard), but she still loves me with all her heart (as I do her). I am happy now, as result my moods are SO much better, and I am much easier/more pleasant to be around, I don't just shut down, I don't get so angry about everything, and with all the difficult conversations we've had to have since I came out, we've got SO MUCH better at communicating openly and honestly, no more hiding things.
that's a beautiful story. Curious - with your wife, you're saying she wouldn't go back to the old you even though she's less atracted to you, is that mainly because of how your moods and personality have changed?
@@empireoflightz Sorry for the delayed response, this is not my main account so only now seeing this. Yes, she's said it's the communication and my moods, I have far less anger, I had so much anger before, not that I was violent to her ever, but I would storm off, just 100% pissed off, into my "workshop" and break things, I scared myself like wondering what I would be capable of in a fit of rage, that's 100% gone, these days if I get mad like that I typically just break down crying, something that was nearly impossible for me before, and crying like that I feel better almost instantly afterwards.
Also as an update I am over 1yr mark on HRT, not much change from above, some more breast growth, but still not huge (still probably in an A-cup), recently started progesterone a few weeks ago, in addition to the estradiol, but not noticed much changes yet from that, except maybe some better sleep, and maybe a minor libido boost.
I'm amazed at your transition. I've been on 1/2 of a full dose of e and Spiro for 3 months and have been happy with the changes, but I plan on stopping the Spiro after a few more months of transition.
Why 🤔
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!
Quinn, I know you’re talking about your non-binary transition at your house in Chelsea, London, England on this video for 6 months on hormones, it’s very important to do that, so I’m proud of you!!
Hey, you're a walking wonder :)
Trans woman here, with suspected mild androgen insensitivity syndrome, started my HRT at 34. I was never really horny.
Over 2 years on E (9 months on EE+CPA, then moved to EV injections), noticed softer skin pretty much right away. Not oily anymore. Got softer face too. As for eyelashes, mine looked pretty fem even before, but they might have changed too, I'm not sure.
There's some breast development but not really that much. I gained a lot of weight over the course of HRT (15 kilos or so). I might go for lipofilling if I ever afford it.
Hair growth slowed down too.
Hi Keri! Thanks for your comment, and for sharing about your own transition. Congratulations on your journey!! I've gained some weight specifically from hormone therapy myself, but I think that's starting to settle now. That was definitely a weird one when I started.
Congrats on 6 months and thank you for sharing this!!
Thank you!!
Non-binary transfems FTW! ❤️
And you look amazing, btw
So happy for you!
I'm a non trans enby and I'm starting gender affirmative HRT not to fully transition but to help me look less masculine
I was really excited too see this because I was wondering if you take a full female dose still as a non binary person? Are you also on testosterone blockers
Hi lovely, congratulations on starting HRT, that's so exciting !! I've always been on a "full female dose" but for most of my transition I haven't taken testosterone blockers. I talk about that more in my newest video if you're interested! There's a really great DIY HRT resource I found here about de-masculinisation instead of feminisation: transfemscience.org/articles/nonbinary-transfem-overview/
@@marsintheory I was planning to do both, I would basically like to have the smallest amount of testosterone as possible. I'm asexual so neither erection or sex drive matter and though I've never wanted bottom surgery, making it so I can't get and erection or orgasm makes my penis feel less of a masculine threat. Honestly I WAYYYYY PREFER THE FEELING AND EXCITED ENERGY FROM GENDER EUPHORIA THAN ORGASM ANYWAY, like I'm gonna be able to literally make my body look as feminine as possible because even though I'm gender fluid, even my most masculine times would be more suited to a body that looks feminine enough that when people " assume" my gender they would call me a girl. I think that the euphoria, actualization, and satisfaction at being able to now longer being misgenered as a male (I mean ppl should never assume gender but boomers, conservatives, red necks and Kyles are always gonna not only assume that your either only male or female and nothing else, so if it's between guy and girl I 1000% RATHER BE CALLED A GIRL OR CALLED MISS OR SHE! I've already began taking a supplement for females that warns men should avoid even touching the pills because it can be absorbed thru skin and has been shown to cause testosterone levels to drop with a pretty minor amount of it needed. That, my clothes, my hair and how I started walking and talking are a combination of girly feminine and queer lisp feminine. Like I always wondered why so queer dudes have that same girly lisp that is the stereotype of "how gay boys sound" I realized that it's mostly something that people subconsciously being to find themselves sounding like if they really want everyone to know "how feminine and gay I am" and because my family was so conservative and because I didn't grow up around gay friends I didn't start to become noticably girly and over the top and development of my own lisp. I also have been wearing my undercut in a pony tail with girly bangs and went from just the androgynous emo Black nail polish and occasionally eyeliner to foundation, mascara, eyeshadow, lipstick, bronzer and matchings my nails with the color of my outfit. I bought a couple of those shorts that so high cut it gets girls sent home from school, leggings, girls tunic t shirts. It's all very exciting, I've been called she miss homegirl and shawty a bunch of times in last month by new people I meet, and different places at partys, doctor, store, on the bus. I'll be honest it makes me feel good enough I don't even correct them 😅😅
@@KaiTypon-nc6wp okay so since thus was a year ago, how far did u make it in acquiring your true from
YAY!! Can’t wait to start !
Thank you for making this video, as a male I want to become non binary estrogen treatment to become more feminine in general. Thank you for your insight and experience!
Awesome. Ty you for just talking.
Super happy for you Quinn!
Aw thank you so much pal!!
I had the same breast-based thoughts as you on starting hormones, I'm non binary, I wanna be more feminine, sure, but I don't care too much about big breasts, like a B cup would be fine... three months in... F cups... ummm... heck.
aha oh lord! for the record, I love my boobs now - this is an old video, i'm in a very different place with transition these days.
Yeah, I think I saw your one year update straight after this one… I’ve kind of been on a trans timelines kick recently, trying to get a sense for what I can expect over the next couple of years (obviously realising mileage may vary, what with facial structures, just general luck, etc). I’m glad you’re happy with them now 🙂 tbh I’m hoping mine are just going to consolidate where they are now, maybe round out a little as they’re sort of teardrop shaped, not just keep expanding wildly, I am happy with them tbh, but they’re getting quite difficult to hide from my partner’s very religious grandma when we see her 😅
Omg this is my exact fear, I would love to have everything feminize, but its just the boobs that I dont really want, idk maybe it's bc of the fact that society will probably give me more shit if I were to grow boobs, but I would just prefer a little A cup ( which probably won't ne the case since all the women in my family have above F cups)
@@tsuyuasui7297 you can take Raloxifene if you want to feminise without breast growth 😊😊💛💛
We are always told in the UK not to apply the gel above the waist!
At what age did you start? 😊 really wholesome listening to your impressions.
This makes enby me very happy
Hi! I'm NB transfem as well and was wondering (relating to this video specifically) how using estrogen without t-blockers affects, you know.. "shrinkage" and all that. I don't really want to shrink down there, but if it's unavoidable then it's just unavoidable I guess.
Great Job Quinn!
Hi Quinn. I'm from NYC but I'll be vacationing in London for a week sometime in the next 6 months. I'd love to meet for a friendship drink. I'm 74 and I love meeting interesting and intelligent people. I work as an usher on Broadway.
this makes me so excited to start E :)
I do have a question actually. I'd like to transition basically like you, *however* I'm really into working out for strength and it seems like a waste to let all that muscle and strength go to waste. Any ideas?
depending if you would be going on estrogen or testosterone, either one wont immediately make you loose your strength. just keep doing that training, and you can definitely continue with your transition :) (if you also would be going on testosterone, it would help with muscle build a lot!) i wish you the best :)
Hey! Sorry for the slow response, I've been travelling the last couple weeks. Thanks for your question though! So this was actually one of my concerns with starting transition as well. I had also been working out (not much, but still) and I had built up some muscles and I was worried about losing them. Definitely estrogen can reduce your muscle mass, but I want to emphasise that that change is SLOW. I've been on hormones for nearly 7 months now, and I've noticed a slight loss in muscle, but I also haven't worked out hardly at all since I've started hormones. If you keep up regular strength training, you can maintain your muscles and even grow further - the same as any cis woman. This will be particularly true for you if you don't block your testosterone. If you do go on t-blockers, expect to see more reduction in muscle mass. But if you just do estrogen, you might not notice any loss at all, even after a long time. Bear in mind that girls can be absolutely massive muscly hunks too! ;) I hope that helps!
Thank you, your videos are so helpful! You mention being a pretty hairy person - how do you handle this? hair removal sucks and epilation has been the bane of my existence so far lol
I'm lucky in that there's a relatively affordable laser hair removal service here in London. I've been doing that on my face and body for over a year now and it's been absolute magic. If I was stuck with just waxing / epilation / shaving I would just be resigned to hairiness because I'm wayyyy too lazy haha. But I understand laser isn't affordable to everyone.
I'm curious about how does your testosterone levels change during hrt? Is it higher, or lower?
Also curious - you haven't been taking T blockers but you don't seem to have any facial hair (which even with T blockers is apparently usually pretty obstinate) did you have any of it permanently removed is it just a very clean shave? Asking because I'm not nearly to consider removing mine, but am quite worried about how it might look to have a feminine body type, skin and facial structure with facial hair once I start noticeably feminising. With you it doesn't seem like an issue at all!
I actually started facial hair removal before I started HRT, so that's a journey I've been on for a long time and one that I am still on. T-blockers do very little to affect facial hair growth - they can slow it down a small amount but they don't remove it.
how does transitioning work for amab non binary people?
I’m not sure if you mentioned it in the video and I just missed it, but how old are you? I’m kind of considering this but I feel like I may be too old :(
I started transitioning when I was 25, which is after male puberty is finished. Sending you lots of love if you decide that's right for yourself. Lots of us transition later in life, many much later than me.
@@marsintheory thank you for the supportive words
So how are you doing 1 year later?
@@tsuyuasui7297 nothing drastic but slowly presenting more feminine. Not all the way where I want to be yet but I’m comfortable moving slowly for now.
Can I ask what the outro song is?
You are absolutely amazing
Getting on low dose T with another med soon as a nonbinary individual, I am trans male but I represent feminine with they/them he/him pronouns
I could be misremembering, but I thought estradiol was the one that caused thrombosis and a different one was safer? Then again if your doctor prescribed it it's probably fine.
Estradiol gel is, to the best of my knowledge, very safe. There is evidence to suggest there's a slightly higher risk of thrombosis in those undergoing HRT, especially for the first year, but I think that's with all forms of HRT.
@@marsintheory I wish I could do gel, but apparently only pills or injections...and I'm scared of needles. Wheee!
@@rebeccasam3434subcutaneous is very non scary if u can’t do IM
Hey Quinn,
I'm thinking about taking hormones. I just wonder, since I'm also a more fluffy hairy being, how did you get rid of your body hair and how did you get such gorgeous eyebrows?! *-*
Thank you for the video. I really struggled with the decision, especially, as a non binary person... But your video and your happiness showed me that hormones and being non binary are a thing and can be beautiful... I hope you get my point :'D
Thanks!
Hi Lu! Thanks for your comment! I'm also pretty naturally fluffy. My "natural" eyebrows are about 3 times bigger than in this video. I pluck them. It's a pain but I don't mind it. Find a shape you like, pencil around the edges, and then pluck everything outside the edges. With my body hair I'm now doing laser, but if you can't afford that I highly recommend waxing ! It helps a ton. And if you're on HRT that can help a lot with body hair. Not so much for me because I'm not blocking my testosterone, but it's helped other people a lot.
@@marsintheory Thanks so much for your reply! It's awesome to be able to ask those questions and it's so nice that you speak so openly about it. Thank very much for taking your time and making your videos. Please stay awesome ^-^
YFI: I'm still amazed how plucking your eyebrows and redraw can look so awesome. I guess I have to try it myself if this is what you get :D
@@lufu3578 aw thank you for your sweet words! No worries at all!
Btw I don't redraw my brows, I just pluck. ☺️
If you're an adult and as long as you can afford it, the medicine cabinet is all yours.
I wouldn't advise anybody to take anything in this video as anything other than an individual experience.
Which is exactly what I said as well. :)
Thanks for the video, enjoyed getting your perspective as an enby just starting HRT. Just one thing - "as a non-binary person I never really wanted to have big tits" I think I see what you're trying to say here but it also comes across as if you might be saying non-binary people generally don't or shouldn't want big tits, which I really hope you aren't? As that seems like a general unspoken-but-sometimes-spoken convention in the community, which makes me (and i assume others) feel excluded
Hey! Thanks for your comment. I definitely didn't mean to say that non-binary people don't or shouldn't want big tits (which is also why I didn't say that). But I can see how that sentence could have been read as me implying being non-binary is a certain androgynous aesthetic which excludes big breasts. I just meant that being non-binary means that I don't feel an obligation to conform to any stereotypical, binary ideas of transition - one of which is, obviously, a desire for breast growth for amab people. There are loads of non-binary people who DO have large tits, some of which are afab, some of which are amab. Additionally lots of amab people do follow a more traditionally binary transition path whilst still identifying as non-binary - a category I myself fit into. And finally there are plenty of binary trans women who also don't want tits or want a small chest. Anyway I should have clarified all this better in the video - it's hard to speak on your own experiences online without excluding the experiences of others, but you're absolutely right, and the "enby experience" is enormously expansive, complex, and individual. Best of luck with your journey!
@@marsintheory thank you for the clarification, I assumed that was probably what you meant but I'm glad you clarified because I think some people might interpret it the other way and I felt sort of a tinge of that feeling of being excluded. But I also know how hard it is these days not to say something that might be interpreted wrongly by some person or another, it's a minefield especially when you're trying to be spontaneous and speak authentically rather than doing something rehearsed. So I appreciate you for making yourself vulnerable by doing that, keep it up 🙏🙏👌👌
Love you!
You look amazing!
Ah thank you!
Do you stay on the hormones for a set time before changes become permanent or do you need to stay on it indefinitely?
Hey Nick! Sorry for the delayed response, I've been away from my laptop the last couple weeks. So if you're on hormones for, say, a month, you won't really have any changes which are irreversible. After that stage, some changes will be permanent, even if you get off hormones. If I were to get off hormones, some changes would revert, and some would not.
@@marsintheory so will this be a lifelong process to keep the impermanent permanent?
@@nickwest3939 indeed!
Thank you Quinn. You gave me a lot of useful information. I recently have been figuring myself out with great help from my wife. I do wonder if you noticed any changes to the male reproductive organ while on estrogen? Sorry if that intrusive but I have been having difficulty in finding any info online. Definitely going to sub and stick around for your journey, good luck to you.
Thanks Imoen! And that's not intrusive at all. I haven't blocked my testosterone and thus have had almost no change in my genitals, with the exception that orgasms feel slightly longer lasting and more full body then they used to. For people who block their testosterone, there's usually a decrease in libido and sexual function - but that varies from person to person. Thanks for your comment and for subbing!
@@marsintheory thanks for the information, it and your videos have really helped!! Best wishes to you Quinn.
Im non binary too but i do want as much brest growth as possible but probably wont get crazy cause i dont want full dose so far low dose anti androgen will add E in idk 6 to 10 weeks ish idk
I'm a bit confused... Why transitioning if you are not a binary person (and transitions are binary: trans-gender = from presentation more typical of one gender to one more typical of another)? I'm genuinely curious and asking a question :)
There are a variety of reasons a nonbinary person may decide to medically transition. They may identify more with the gender opposite their birth sex but not fully, they may wish to appear more androgynous by gaining some secondary sex characteristics of both male and female bodies, they may wish to lose some of the characteristics of their assigned gender at birth.
Transgender simply means to identify as a gender different to the one assigned to you at birth, but even then some non binary people don't identify as trans. Ultimately it's quite an individualized decision with no one reason someone may decide it is right for them.
I was looking info on non binary trans fem transitioning you have lot of info on it and thanx for this video please make a video what doctor you seeing or you suggest
I need your assistance, I watched your video 3-4times and Followed what you said Took estorgen it's my 1st day and I have upset stomach.
I am concern what is going to happen with me I am a non binary person wish to have a little feminine feature on my face and on my skin
Also wish to know if you have done any surgery in this video FFS or etc
Hoping for your revert and your help on this matter
gorgeous
Ahh thank you Oz!! Hope you're well! :D
Nothing wrong with being in the itty bitty titty committee 🙋🏾♀ we can run and stuff lol
*_GENDER ENVY_*
What's weird is a lot of the effects of estrogen you've mentioned are things that are already true for me.. I'm a "gay man" but now I'm especially wondering if I should identify as non-binary lol
There is no should! You have to figure out whatever is right for you and your journey. Also your sex doesn't have to align with your gender identity - so even if you were, say, intersex or just naturally more feminine in your sex make-up, that doesn't mean you have to identify as non-binary. I actually noticed especially with personality, emotions, etc., that although estrogen amplified things, I had already been quite feminine in my sex make-up as well, at least internally, so I can relate to that a bit.
Yes maybe you are gay non-binary.
I never new you could go strait into estrogen as a nonbinary person, does that take a prescription?
Yes, it does.
Are you British or American ur accent keeps flipping back and forth haha
I often get told I have a very "international" or trans-atlantic accent. I'm from California but I've lived in the UK my entire adult life. So there you go haha.
What country are you from?
this person is pretty and im jealous of them
What is “non-binary”?
how are your friends and family reacting to your transition?
My friends have been incredibly supportive. My family's found it extremely difficult but I can tell they're really trying, and we're still so early on that journey.
Darn it, I wish there was a way to guarantee not much breast growth, but with the other changes 😕
There is! It's called Raloxifene. I made a video on that in my coming out as trans video.
@@marsintheory iiiiinteresting…. Okay, I should watch that. I know someone who’s told me about serms before, though not really any details.
I’m having trouble just getting set up with the basics though, prescription was called in really screwy when I was just trying to ask a few questions first 😕
@@rebeccasam3434 you could get breast-bud radiotherapy.
@@krazytravtrav I’m guessing that wouldn’t be realistic for me, but thank you!
You are so gorgeous 😭
Thank you! 😭🖤
i want hormones too and im also non binary
U look stunning💐🌹
Thank you, that's very kind!
Is it me or do I notice a slight british accent?
I've been getting that a lot lately haha! Been here my entire adult life though, so I suppose it's not too surprising.
I was hoping you would show the rest of your outfit
no se porque me salis en recomendados realmente, no entiendo un pomo el ingles JAJAJ pero bueno :v
Super cute
What is a “non binary transition”?
Its where you transition to non-binary
@@Little_froggieXx what does that mean?
@@Random51960 it means you stop being a girl/boy and become either both or neither (this can be either gender dysphoria as not becoming fully transgender or something else)
Im very bad at explaining so i copied and pasted it from ✨WIKIPEDIA✨:
Non-binary[a] and genderqueer are umbrella terms for gender identities that are not solely male or female-identities that are outside the gender binary.[2][3] Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella, since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex,[3] though some non-binary people do not consider themselves transgender.[4][5]
Non-binary people may identify as an intermediate or separate third gender,[6] identify with more than one gender,[7][8] no gender, or have a fluctuating gender identity.[9] Gender identity is separate from sexual or romantic orientation:[10] non-binary people have various sexual orientations.[11] Being non-binary is also not the same as being intersex; most intersex people identify as either male or female.[12]
Non-binary people as a group vary in their gender expressions, and some may reject gender identity altogether.[13] Some non-binary people are medically treated for gender dysphoria with surgery or hormones, as trans men and trans women often are.[14]
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@@marsintheory You were born perfect. Why weren't you good enough? Why couldn't you love yourself, as you were?
@@melissahunnybee2you so now you've switched your stance, recognise how much I've changed myself, but just think those changes are bad cause it's not how I was born? Glad we could clear that up. Nobody is born perfect. We're allowed to want to change our templates. Thank you for the engagement but now kindly take your judgemental transphobic ass someplace else. xx
Why is it always white women that post this...
@@alexstam2433 I'm not white. I'm black ;)
I advise against taking hormones, you never know the adverse effects it might have, especially in the long run. Also, you look fine now, but you looked perfect as a guy, why change..? Why not just live with your body and emotions as they are naturally ? No offense, hugs all around..
We do pretty much know the effects, same as for cis people mostly.
As for why change, pretty much for the same reason cis people won't. Doesn't match neurological sex, and can be wrong in various ways, including it being a form of body horror, as it would be for cis people if they were forced to.
You look awesome!