Tried it today. Worked! Went on a ride with the family today. Was able to bring a ton of food. Simply put one of those cooler grocery bags in the backpack and 4 blocks of that blue ice. Filled to the brim with food! Felt like the smartest guy on the trail while everyone else was enjoying granola bars and warm water😎 Next up, lashing sleeping bags, pads, tents.
You're a verry smart and helpful man! I admire your great skill-sharing ability to convert dumbos like me into smart persons even before your video ends! And you did it without speaking a single word! You just made my day and I thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Mountain hardware bags often do not have the two plastic gear loops: I am going to experiment with the bungee hooks and wrap them around the large hand carry strap at the top . Hopefully they don't wiggle around too much while riding. I will report back. And thanks so much for this tutorial! I knew there had to be a way.
When a bag is not tapered like a pannier you need to place it a long way to the back of the rack, to allow heel clearance; and then it is surprising how far the bag can curl round the back of the rack and foul the wheel. Altogether it is a much more challenging task than you make out in the video.
my bike and bag is different and cant use this trick into mine. but the basic is really helpful. now i have a solution for mine by modifying your solution. tks broh
Maybe you could put heavy and less valuable items on the opposite side in a satchel to balance the bike while riding? Like a mini pump for your tire, 2L bottle of water are not a big loss if stolen but are very important for hydration, repair...
The only trouble I see with this is that you require a good quality rucksack! if not the bouncing around, especially if the rucksack contains considerable weight will eventually cause rips. Personally I would simply just attach a milk create and sit the bag in that!
This is very smart, I appreciate the video. Do you ever have problems with the backpack's straps getting caught in your spokes? Looks like you have waist straps on the pack that could flop around - do you have an easy way of securing them?
Hasn't happened to me so far, loose straps that are long enough to be caught in the spokes can usually be put away in smaller pockets on the outside of the backpack. Easiest solution: tie them together :-)
That's true. Not a perfect solution, but a quick and dirty one. I use this method for crosstown riding, no backpack has failed on me so far. This of course cannot replace some decent panniers.
The straps take the weight either way - on the bike or on a person. If the stitching isn't strong enough it'll fail on both. I wouldn't expect rough terrain to make a difference unless the pack was very heavy or the straps weak, but you shouldn't buy a cheap pack anyway.
Spotted something for others to think about, if the D buckle the bungee goes through on the bag are to big the the bungee won’t hold the bag up, the bag will just slid down nothing to hold it up, this looked good but a bit dodgy.
1:53 it looks like the backpack interferes with the spokes of the rear wheel. Trying to figure out how to hang my son's heavy laptop backpack on his bike rack. It has shoulder loops but no chest strap, and the lower straps would dangle and tangle.
I ride the bus/walk and also bike instead of having a car, which gives me quite a bit of relevant experience. The notion that most backpacks have those D-rings and also a thorax strap doesn't work out in my experience. Some do, but by no means a majority. I use other means to carry bicycle cargo, but my current project of using a bus to get into the areas I want to go camping and then the bicycle for the last ten miles or so calls for something like that.
you could easily make those loops yourself with 4 strong zip ties if you really needed to. Even my kid's schoolbags can be carried around like seen in the video. Get creative, that's what it's about!
Where did you get those hooks and how did you attach bungee coord's both ends to hooks and to the bike, respectively? Looks like at the bottom part there's some kind of a knot.
the knot at the bottom is simply the bungee cord folded in half looped through the bottom and the hooks fed through the loop part of the bungee and pulled taut.
Smart, but looks a little dangerous - especially with so many straps hanging around 😕 Though from experience I know that at least if something does get caught in the rear wheel it is not too bad - whereas something getting caught in the front wheel can be disastrous. cheers JB
Make it so you have to stretch the cord 4-6inches to Be Very Tight. Also Can Bend the Metal to be smaller on Bungee cord Hooks. Last but not Least If you Tie A permanant loop on Either side of Cord you Can Wrap Bungee around Rack up top and insert cord ends into the Loop you created. This will Over Stretch and hopefully stop the removal of the Cord from rack over bumps and off Camber Turns..
WRONG. The lower corner of pack will tangle with spokes on every bump. I mounted backpacks on bikes, but with stiff plastic panels "permanently" attached to the bike on both sides of rear wheel as a barrier to prevent pack and spoke contact. Attach with bungees up to the seat, but more as a Shock ABSORBER, so the pack bounces. Into Mexico, I put the bicycle on buses (1993) and after arriving at destination, toured with backpack and guitar.
What is that black bundle of fibers going from the left side of your rack down the right side? Is that to provide extra support to the rack? Also, is there any instability in carrying this on only one side? I carry like 15-20lbs in my backpack (books computer food) and am concerned about stability. My milk crate topper with the backpack moves around an awful lot when I ride.
The bundle of fibers is just another bungee cord that was on the rack. You don't need it at all. The "instability" just as if you're riding with just one pannier, I haven't had problems so far. Depends on the weight you're carrying of course - just test it out. Bungee cords are cheap, good luck!
Hasn't happened so far, but I use this only for crosstown riding. Rough terrain might be problematic, but: the shorter the bungee cord the more stable the whole setup will be! Test it out for yourself, I personally like this as a quick and easy solution.
just didnt like how your bag was touching the wheel a little, eek I also don't really know how you attacked it to the rack like that, what that knot is and how.
It isn't a knot, it's just looped round itself at the bottom of the rack where it fixes to the frame. Straps/bags do catch the wheel sometimes but it's fine as long as they aren't long or loose enough to get tangled. Might wear a hole though.
Dude. I have to ride with two backpacks everyday; this is going to make my load MUCH easier! Thanks!!
I love people who use what they have adapt and improvise! 5 stars!
This is a genuinely useful tip. Thank you for sharing... knowledge is only useful if it is shared, and you played your part. Thanks again.
Tried it today. Worked! Went on a ride with the family today. Was able to bring a ton of food. Simply put one of those cooler grocery bags in the backpack and 4 blocks of that blue ice. Filled to the brim with food! Felt like the smartest guy on the trail while everyone else was enjoying granola bars and warm water😎
Next up, lashing sleeping bags, pads, tents.
show a video of how you did.
You could even get a tent in there
I have watch hundreds of ideas on this subject. Yours is the best out of all of them!
Good start. I need to see a test run on different surfaces but at least your thinking in the right direction! 👌
That was some super impressive camerawork. Thanks!
Awesome Tip Man... I'm Excited to Try this for constructing a Budget Long Distance Bike for an Epic Trip...
It works! Did it in a bike shop straight after getting my rack fitted - in front of amazed onlookers from memory 😁
You're a verry smart and helpful man! I admire your great skill-sharing ability to convert dumbos like me into smart persons even before your video ends! And you did it without speaking a single word! You just made my day and I thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Thank you so much for posting a simple easy to understand tutorial. This is just what I was looking for.
Gee good thing to watch....i wish i had this info years ago but i found pannier bags in a council cleanup so now sorted. Good video
Brilliantly simple and useful, Thanks for sharing.
Clever! Thank you.
Might attach to straps on other side as you mentioned if puddles/mud so wheel does not soak straps and back panel.
You Sir are a genius, lol, so simple but I would have never thought of that thank you very much.
Thanks so much bro! This tips very usefull for my daily go to work bicycle.
super useful tip! thank you for sharing!
Mountain hardware bags often do not have the two plastic gear loops: I am going to experiment with the bungee hooks and wrap them around the large hand carry strap at the top . Hopefully they don't wiggle around too much while riding. I will report back. And thanks so much for this tutorial! I knew there had to be a way.
Any luck?
did it work?
You're a bloody legend. Cheers
I'm liking your thinking Sir. Kind Regards.
When a bag is not tapered like a pannier you need to place it a long way to the back of the rack, to allow heel clearance; and then it is surprising how far the bag can curl round the back of the rack and foul the wheel. Altogether it is a much more challenging task than you make out in the video.
Pannier salesman?
my bike and bag is different and cant use this trick into mine. but the basic is really helpful. now i have a solution for mine by modifying your solution. tks broh
What a relief dude , thanks 🙏
Could I ask what's the length of the bungee cord you're using? Just to get an idea about which one to buy
wow this is useful tips for those without proper pannier bags. Thanks
cool, smart!!! thanks for sharing this with us!!!!
Interesting solution
Very clever idea.
That's a brilliant idea!
I appreciate this video, I really do. Unfortunately my rucksack doesn’t have the middle strap. Thanks for making sharing this video though
Maybe you could put heavy and less valuable items on the opposite side in a satchel to balance the bike while riding? Like a mini pump for your tire, 2L bottle of water are not a big loss if stolen but are very important for hydration, repair...
Brilliant! Thanks!
These are all good things as long as you are saving money for actual delivery equipment. For the mean time this can do
The only trouble I see with this is that you require a good quality rucksack! if not the bouncing around, especially if the rucksack contains considerable weight will eventually cause rips. Personally I would simply just attach a milk create and sit the bag in that!
that my friend, is pure genius
much appreciated for the video! Certainly a money saver! Thank you!
This is very smart, I appreciate the video. Do you ever have problems with the backpack's straps getting caught in your spokes? Looks like you have waist straps on the pack that could flop around - do you have an easy way of securing them?
Hasn't happened to me so far, loose straps that are long enough to be caught in the spokes can usually be put away in smaller pockets on the outside of the backpack. Easiest solution: tie them together :-)
cool... thank you
this is genius
Light materials but works very well
Oh wow!! Where can I get those materials please??
Now I'm going to test if I can use this method to strap my folding kayak bag to my bike. 😆
Good job
All the stresses are handled by standard pack stitching. It would fail in no time on roughish terrain. The rattling could be problematic.
That's true. Not a perfect solution, but a quick and dirty one. I use this method for crosstown riding, no backpack has failed on me so far. This of course cannot replace some decent panniers.
The straps take the weight either way - on the bike or on a person. If the stitching isn't strong enough it'll fail on both. I wouldn't expect rough terrain to make a difference unless the pack was very heavy or the straps weak, but you shouldn't buy a cheap pack anyway.
Spotted something for others to think about, if the D buckle the bungee goes through on the bag are to big the the bungee won’t hold the bag up, the bag will just slid down nothing to hold it up, this looked good but a bit dodgy.
How did you attach the cord like that? :)
Going on 60 mile ride, wil try.
1:53 it looks like the backpack interferes with the spokes of the rear wheel. Trying to figure out how to hang my son's heavy laptop backpack on his bike rack. It has shoulder loops but no chest strap, and the lower straps would dangle and tangle.
simple n smart solution
Very clever 👍 Don’t mean to be negative but I’m wondering if this imbalances the bike making it unstable to ride?
Sweet trick
Nice! I wish my backpack had the strap that went across your chest... I got a milk crate to do the job instead :)
can I ask how you attached the crate to the rack?
@@Kyle-kv6ur he prolly used zip ties or those nite ize reusable zip ties
wow! very interesting!
Where is the bungee cord tied to and how did you tie it on?
Good idea, but it would fail with a heavy backpack
The weight looks focus on the leftside wonder if it's still balanced 🤔
I wonder if a violin can be attacked to the back rack, if so, that would be very useful for me
Things can go different when you put weight in the backpack.
I ride the bus/walk and also bike instead of having a car, which gives me quite a bit of relevant experience. The notion that most backpacks have those D-rings and also a thorax strap doesn't work out in my experience. Some do, but by no means a majority. I use other means to carry bicycle cargo, but my current project of using a bus to get into the areas I want to go camping and then the bicycle for the last ten miles or so calls for something like that.
Well... Need to try this McGyver! Thanks alot! :)
u r a BEAST ........nice lol
Doesn't your foot hit the backpack while pedaling?
That makes sense
clever 👏🏾
great
Nice if you have a backpack like that. Many (most?) don't have loops on the straps like that.
you could easily make those loops yourself with 4 strong zip ties if you really needed to. Even my kid's schoolbags can be carried around like seen in the video. Get creative, that's what it's about!
Quite a few have those hooks, for hanging a water bottle or similar.
Where did you get those hooks and how did you attach bungee coord's both ends to hooks and to the bike, respectively? Looks like at the bottom part there's some kind of a knot.
the knot at the bottom is simply the bungee cord folded in half looped through the bottom and the hooks fed through the loop part of the bungee and pulled taut.
The bungee cord can be purchased as seen in the video, very cheap indeed. The cord is attached to the rack through a simple knot, yes.
Yeah it would be helpful if the video included instructions on how to attach the bungie cord to the bike first.
@@kelleyroark6823 Well, here's the instructions: Tie a knot. The knot is clearly visible during the first few seconds of the video :-)
Awesome
clever m8!!
But how stable is this?
I feel if you bump it into a hole it might come off
actually quite stable, but depending on the strength of the bungee cord. The stronger the better.
you can use a strap to hold the bag against the rack. A D ring belt is fast to tighten, and cheap as chips on ebay
Smart, but looks a little dangerous - especially with so many straps hanging around 😕
Though from experience I know that at least if something does get caught in the rear wheel it is not too bad - whereas something getting caught in the front wheel can be disastrous.
cheers
JB
smart!
what kind of backpack is that?
Wouldn't it be better with straps? whole point of bungees is they are elastic. Great vid though, thank you.
The only thing that worries me is one of those loose straps catching the wheel ...
but can you put 10 kg only 1 side?
So many back packs don't have these features...
Clever
Cool 👍
How long should the bungee cord be? Thanks for this.
Just check, depends on the height of your bike rack.
Make it so you have to stretch the cord 4-6inches to Be Very Tight. Also Can Bend the Metal to be smaller on Bungee cord Hooks. Last but not Least If you Tie A permanant loop on Either side of Cord you Can Wrap Bungee around Rack up top and insert cord ends into the Loop you created. This will Over Stretch and hopefully stop the removal of the Cord from rack over bumps and off Camber Turns..
How long is the bungee cord?
That's a bungee cord around 50cm long.
High five
WRONG. The lower corner of pack will tangle with spokes on every bump. I mounted backpacks on bikes, but with stiff plastic panels "permanently" attached to the bike on both sides of rear wheel as a barrier to prevent pack and spoke contact. Attach with bungees up to the seat, but more as a Shock ABSORBER, so the pack bounces. Into Mexico, I put the bicycle on buses (1993) and after arriving at destination, toured with backpack and guitar.
"Almost" as in just backpacks like this one?
Thanks for the general idea. I'll see if I can jury rig up something.
Yeah backpacking backpacks. Get 2 90 liter packs and you have an insane touring setup lmao.
How did you attach the bungee cord to the rack?
Looks like a Lark's head knot
What is that black bundle of fibers going from the left side of your rack down the right side? Is that to provide extra support to the rack? Also, is there any instability in carrying this on only one side? I carry like 15-20lbs in my backpack (books computer food) and am concerned about stability. My milk crate topper with the backpack moves around an awful lot when I ride.
The bundle of fibers is just another bungee cord that was on the rack. You don't need it at all. The "instability" just as if you're riding with just one pannier, I haven't had problems so far. Depends on the weight you're carrying of course - just test it out. Bungee cords are cheap, good luck!
It is good idea
what if bike racks were replaced with chains in the ground
It kinda looks like it could fall off, has that ever happened to you?
Hasn't happened so far, but I use this only for crosstown riding. Rough terrain might be problematic, but: the shorter the bungee cord the more stable the whole setup will be! Test it out for yourself, I personally like this as a quick and easy solution.
I'm just afraid of the straps getting caught or getting dragged
Same
I'd use carabiners to secure the backpack to the bungee cord.
@@jarblewarble If you're using carabiners you might as well put them straight onto the rack and lose the bungee. No need to make it complicated.
This dangerous with the bag straps can get caught with the wheel
just didnt like how your bag was touching the wheel a little, eek
I also don't really know how you attacked it to the rack like that, what that knot is and how.
It isn't a knot, it's just looped round itself at the bottom of the rack where it fixes to the frame. Straps/bags do catch the wheel sometimes but it's fine as long as they aren't long or loose enough to get tangled. Might wear a hole though.
The cycle is unbalanced now!!!
I did it and my cycle wobbeles very badly
You're in Germany 🇩🇪
This will fall off so easily
Its good yeah but if you go to a dirty place with dirts your bag will be dirty
That's true. Not intended for permanent use though, but if you need to carry a normal backpack on a bike this is a quick & easy solution.
If is in kl dpt, I want to meet social government service.
YOU. ARE A GENIUS.
Will you marry me?
I hate people who is Mike clearly works but they don’t talk
Maybe I don't like to talk on camera when I'm drunk. Ever thought about that?
@@milderpilger3335 Hahahahahahahahahaha