Walking The Hidden River Fleet

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  • @mattfromlondonist
    @mattfromlondonist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    I'm Matt from the video. Would people like to see us track down the other buried rivers of London, like the Tyburn, Effra and Peck?

    • @Wayfarer-Sailing
      @Wayfarer-Sailing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes please.

    • @chrisperry7963
      @chrisperry7963 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely, please do!

    • @GDEwan
      @GDEwan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Matt Brown yes please do!

    • @captainkeena
      @captainkeena 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes- details about the other lost rivers would be of great interest.

    • @jonathanwthomas
      @jonathanwthomas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes!

  • @doverandover61
    @doverandover61 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Absolutely love this kind of thing

  • @AlisonBryen
    @AlisonBryen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    You have made my Friday evening with this video! I'm the sad kind of girl who follows rivers from source to sea on Google maps with my mouse for fun! It's great to have the opportunity be able to follow an "unseen" river too !

    • @chasbodaniels1744
      @chasbodaniels1744 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On the contrary! I do the same thing, and it can be a fascinating diversion. It's wonderful to see where and why towns sprung up along navigable waterways, and how rivers either shape the land along them, or vice versa.

    • @tomp4903
      @tomp4903 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My favourite thing is to follow railway lines(the reason I watch this channel). But I especially love trying to find the old routes of dismantled or long gone rail alignments, where you would never be able to tell from the ground that there was once a railway cutting through, but from the satellite image you can clearly see where the line has scared the landscape in it's journey to get to wherever it was going.

    • @AlisonBryen
      @AlisonBryen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom P I'm going to have to try that too...! We have a dismantled part of the GWR that run about half a mile from our house...

    • @chocomanger6873
      @chocomanger6873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want a sad kind of girl.

  • @bengristwood56
    @bengristwood56 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great vid. Such a shame all the old rivers aren’t visible anymore. Would be nice to have a few more Rivers and waterways in London

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice one. I'm a fan of the lost rivers of London - knowledge of which won me quite a bit of money in a pub quiz once.

  • @nancytestani1470
    @nancytestani1470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of this is so fascinating.

  • @maryreichle325
    @maryreichle325 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes, more longer videos. Excellent coverage of the Fleet.

  • @michaelbruchas6663
    @michaelbruchas6663 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating...want to see more of the ancient London Rivers...

  • @helenhucker346
    @helenhucker346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I grew up on the Farringdon Road and knew North London and Hampstead very well. Fleet River meets memory lane!

  • @Wayfarer-Sailing
    @Wayfarer-Sailing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It would have been nice to see more detail but I note the recommendation to do the walk in person. Thank you for making the video!

    • @mattfromlondonist
      @mattfromlondonist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes - there are plenty of other highlights we could have shown, like the steep hills of Farringdon and the manhole cover where you can hear the Fleet just north of Clerkenwell Road. But we didn't want the video to be too long, and we wanted to save some surprises for those who do the walk.

    • @Wayfarer-Sailing
      @Wayfarer-Sailing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope to do the walk in the new year - looking forward to being surprised :)

    • @chasbodaniels1744
      @chasbodaniels1744 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Matt Brown Your points make sense for folks living near London, but less so for your international viewers!

    • @wierdalien1
      @wierdalien1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matt Brown lambs conduit as well

  • @HenrysAdventures
    @HenrysAdventures 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting video! I find London's lost rivers a fascinating subject.

  • @raysengineering786
    @raysengineering786 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video as always... thanks for this.

  • @bulman07
    @bulman07 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Any fans of Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London series?

    • @rachelredhead9217
      @rachelredhead9217 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed

    • @michaeloconnor7133
      @michaeloconnor7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Bulman Yes, indeed! Love those books and as a child I used to play jumping over Beverley Brook, which we called The Ditch!

  • @alanjpoole7274
    @alanjpoole7274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good. I knew most of it, but not that a connection to the river was the reason for Angle's Lane in Kentish Town, and the nice tiled map in Farringdon Rd near the viaduct. (Also, probably obvious, but that's why we have Fleet Rd, just South of South End Green, and of course, Fleet St).

  • @7arboreal
    @7arboreal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. John Rogers does lots of hidden London rivers videos, too.

  • @ChoppingtonOtter
    @ChoppingtonOtter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even as a non Londoner this is interesting.

  • @TripsandFeasts1
    @TripsandFeasts1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Thanks very much for making and posting it.

  • @mytree3979
    @mytree3979 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was a very nice video. Keep going! :D

  • @jackiebayliss
    @jackiebayliss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting. And I must confess I've never even heard of the river fleet before ...That's bad isn't it...But you really do learn something every day ♥️

  • @wooble73
    @wooble73 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting!! Thank you!

  • @rpvd5066
    @rpvd5066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice. London is a fantastic city!!!!!!

  • @nancytestani1470
    @nancytestani1470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you write the book lost rivers of London.

  • @terencemagee
    @terencemagee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Fleet flows under Fleetway House by Bear Alley off Farringdon St, where many famous British comics like Lion and Tiger were produced. Now and then the vaults below would flood, threatening to damage the library of comic volumes some of which had to be carried up to higher shelves. I worked at Fleetway Publications for 10 years and always wanted to see the vaults when flooded, but never did as security was tight and you weren´t allowed to just wander in.

  • @gerryn
    @gerryn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have read a different reason for the curve of the Great Northern Hotel. It involves the curved rail tunnel below it taking the Kings Cross lines down on to the District line. This rail tunnel is obviously now out of use. It was called " Hotel Curve " on maps

  • @xianated
    @xianated 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! I enjoyed watching it! Not entirely sure I'd be able to do the walk myself, but it's certainly worth a try if I'm in the country!

  • @edsloan
    @edsloan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really interesting, I never there was a river under this part of the city. I'm guessing this is how Fleet Street gets its name.

    • @mattfromlondonist
      @mattfromlondonist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's right. There's also a Fleet Road up near Hampstead.

    • @Cowcow211
      @Cowcow211 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      edsloan In Belfast there is a River Blackstaff. It once marked the limits of the old city. But nowadays it's in its own tunnel. The only evidence of it remaining is its drain exit into the Lagan.

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. The old fleet river is directly underneath Fleet Street, and the street follows the route the river took.

  • @keithkent8565
    @keithkent8565 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. I will follow the two branches to Camden and then do another walk to Blackfriars from there. Thank you and please produce some more videos of our other lost rivers if you can.

  • @jjkjc
    @jjkjc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The map at 2:12 shows the river crossing Regent's Canal. Waterways don't generally cross - I suppose the Fleet is in a tunnel or pipe at that point?

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When the Thames tideway tunnel is complete will the lower reaches of the Fleet never be seen again? Presumably the overflow at Blackfriars will be diverted into the new tunnel.

    • @mattfromlondonist
      @mattfromlondonist 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's right. The only way to see the Fleet at Blackfriars will be to go into the sewers.

  • @billyshearer1
    @billyshearer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video!

  • @will1565
    @will1565 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matt great video I find this sort of fascinating. You should check out the fiction series The Rivers Of London, They're a great read :)

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's a wonderful song where Fleet, Westbourne and a couple of the other lost rivers of London are heralded! bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/track/lost-rivers-of-london-2

  • @ROCKINGMAN
    @ROCKINGMAN 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wondered where it started and ended. The Jubilee Line was called The Fleet line when planned and under construction due, apparently running in some places, parallel to the river Fleet.

    • @baruchpinnick811
      @baruchpinnick811 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is now the Jubilee Line was previously named the Fleet Line because it was originally planned to run under Fleet Street, which gets its name from the River Fleet. In the end, the plan was changed and the line was extended elsewhere. As far as I know, the original route did not run parallel to the river itself.

  • @dammmy
    @dammmy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing vids ....thank you :)

  • @thelorddoctor1519
    @thelorddoctor1519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that why it's called Fleet Street then?

  • @JamesPawson
    @JamesPawson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video has been stolen from here and re-uploaded as "The Hidden River Fleet" on a channel called "Iniziazione Antica" (they stole from me too.) Please report them.

  • @kendn01
    @kendn01 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe that this is December in London!

  • @dgattenb
    @dgattenb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love KX curve !

  • @IolantheRosa
    @IolantheRosa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating and well done! I would have liked to have seen a contemporary map (meaning back then, not now), if one exists, showing the Fleet when it was above-ground.

    • @mattfromlondonist
      @mattfromlondonist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you. We considered adding an old map, but it doesn't work on video too well. Try this map from 1741, in which you can see the Fleet winding down from King's Cross at the very top, down to Blackfriars, where it is canalised. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Rocque%27s_Map_of_London_1741-5.jpg

  • @tph2558
    @tph2558 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that where Effra road in Brixton comes from

  • @TXM
    @TXM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks very small. Whats the difference between a river and a stream?

    • @dannyflint5746
      @dannyflint5746 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that. How can you fit a river into a pipe 🤯

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video.

  • @user-ky6vw5up9m
    @user-ky6vw5up9m 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5.58 mins. The Fleet’s confluence with Thames is easy to see from the location described in clip but you need a LOW TIDE.

  • @user-ky6vw5up9m
    @user-ky6vw5up9m 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The technical word for the buried part of the fleet is “culverted”

  • @luisnavarro7322
    @luisnavarro7322 ปีที่แล้ว

    T
    hanks Matt

  • @nancytestani1470
    @nancytestani1470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was it really used for sewage in medieval times . Used to be very stinky in London times. So, it was very pretty at one time?

  • @richardsingh5827
    @richardsingh5827 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @SaintsAwayOllie
    @SaintsAwayOllie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:55 "Willy"

  • @nickbryars6022
    @nickbryars6022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't forget the Wandle.

  • @MrBigStoop
    @MrBigStoop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feets?! 😂
    Good video 👍🏻

  • @taygadesign
    @taygadesign 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it that many rivers in London, other than the Thames, are buried underground?
    I'm not from London :)

    • @hens0w
      @hens0w 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They didn't have enough concrete to bury the Thames
      people chucked there excrement in to rivers stinking them up down stream
      Also the underground (Metro, H&C, ⚪) are built in the fleet from Kings Cross to Farringdon which required a diversion to the river

  • @zarrow50
    @zarrow50 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At what point does the Fleet become a sewer?

  • @colinsmith2560
    @colinsmith2560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the navvies were digging belsize tunnel they broke into the river and piped it underneath in 1868

  • @nanderv
    @nanderv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One shot for every time he says 'the river fleet' ?

  • @KingFluffs
    @KingFluffs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    5 miles long? You can do that in an hour lad.

  • @BryonLape
    @BryonLape 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure I want to paddle in a sewer.

  • @unoriented_x4957
    @unoriented_x4957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video, I'm off!

  • @Bkaithaone
    @Bkaithaone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else here after reading Rivers of London? 🤣

  • @Viccobalta
    @Viccobalta 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hampstead heath has been ruined for me by its seedy connotations :/ lol

    • @chasbodaniels1744
      @chasbodaniels1744 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please elaborate! I'm curious as to what you mean.

    • @Viccobalta
      @Viccobalta 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      west heath (i think) is a very renowned male dogging spot after dark lol

    • @paintedpilgrim
      @paintedpilgrim 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chasbo Daniels the heath is known for cruising for sex and naked swimming in the some of the ponds....

    • @chasbodaniels1744
      @chasbodaniels1744 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh geez, well I'm not into that. Thanks for the info. haha

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Michael famously went there for....
      In another London park, George shunted a Trucker there...
      Ok, I will get my coat and leave...

  • @johngibbon6552
    @johngibbon6552 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    get this fuckin music off