No Such Thing as A Right Handed Southpaw | Your Instincts are Wrong.
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The "right handed southpaw" is something that comes up often. For the completely untrained this often feels more "natural" and there are precedents at high levels of combat sports and martial arts, but in order to develop as a fighter and martial artist you should begin your learning in the correct stance. In short, you are definitely NOT Vasyl Lomachenko.
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hard2hurt 3:09 I’m amberdextrous and like to fight southpaw because that’s what I’m comfortable with plus my left is stronger than my right but my jab is fast pls give me ur opinion on this comment.
What if you're both then what do you do?
Vasyl Lomachenko: Am I a joke to you?
Wrong? Lomochenko fights this way.
Says the guy who doesn't even grapple! Wasting my time listening to clown sauce from a guy who's "way" doesn't even work for himself! Practical Solutions for practical situations.. I've heard a lot of silly crap on my DAILY journey but this guy "mr self contradiction" is a true Mitch! So you're only talking to people who "barely train" or "just started".. You have so many examples that defy this logic yet you stick to it like cheerleader who thinks she's on the debate team.. Chess club DUMMY.. And you're missing many pieces! So if you want to cry about people presenting common sense and logic... Maybe you should cut the click bait crap and stop making ignorant statements so confidently!
“Right handed southpaw isn’t a thing”
cries in lomachenko
😭😭😭😭
And Justin Tafa
1:53
I’m dead
de la hoya left handed orthodox
First you learn the rules, then you get really good following the rules, THEN you can start breaking the rules :)
I edited out almost that exact sentence.
Well that's true but no average practitionner gets "really good" so i don't see the arm in adding tools to your arsenal. After all, beeing a jack of all trades master of none can make you a good mma practionner, so why try to be perfect in one area when :
- a lot of people will be better in that area
- you can gain an edge by learning something else
Sounds like Billionaires to me...
Yea aggree on that to a sertain point, as soon as one is able to develop a solid stance, cenetic chain movement and coordination, as soon that is done both sides should be emplimented equally.
But thats just my humble oppinion.
That's what I teach. You have to first have an understanding of the rules and then you can play with them.
"you'll never be good enough so don't do it" is basically what i get from this guy
He’s talking to idiots, so pretty much as soon as you know what you’re talking about he’s not teaching you anymore
@@Histgyph i mean he literally mentioned it in the video but yeah
@@ashtar3876 that's the point, he might not be talking to you.
Well he is saying that don't start there he addressed he is talking mainly to people that aren't great in boxing. Take jui-jitsu for a example our teacher shows us on rare occasions really top teir moves and we take 3 days learning this one move and doing our average trainings (our best classmate is orange belt) our teacher (a black belt) learned it in thirdy minutes at a convention the point is you need to get good at what you should be doing first then move onto advanced stuff
💯 😆
Lol as a right handed person, I've been training as a southpaw for over 20 years. Whether that was "correct" or not, it's worked for me. 😉
Most southpaw fighters is really right handed.
I'd say he is right that it's not natural, but it can be trained in over time. I'm actually left dominant, but fight right handed. Just because that's how I was trained.
Fluent in both too I just never allowed my self to favour either, opens up alot more angles, certain tools work better from either or. Why limit yourself? Haha
That's me too brother ahaha, but to be fair I'm ambidextrous
right i believe it doesn’t matter if you stand southpaw and your right handed as long as you have power in your left just as much in your right
I am offensive
and I find this a Right-Handed Southpaw
Lol what
Go see a doctor about that stroke buddy
well done
@@hard2hurt Yo you are wrong about striking being unnatural and wrestling being natural. Just sayin.
Tf
"Don't do what feels comfortable"
Aight guess i'll use righty southpaw
Lmao fr
This dude is a clown. Has no idea wtf hes talking about
Kool-Aid Man who
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@@AlphaQHard all jokes
I'm 10-1-0 and I'm a "Right handed southpaw" 😂💪
Because this guy is an idiot. I'm also 5-1-3 amateur boxer. A right handed southpaw also
U literally have to do what feels right when comes to stance and shit for me since I’m also a right handed southpaw all I had to do was train myself to use my left and I’m pretty proud of the progress I made with it not perfect but that’s the goal don’t even know if this homie qualified to talk about boxing/striking
@@sinatra9179 Completely agree, if you fight awkward your chins gettin touched early, Couple guys at my gym fight the same way. This is the way 👍😂
Are you guys Good with your Left hand?
If not, Then get out there and Train with that hand only.
This guy is an idiot. Style's makes fights and it's your style if it works for you then fuck whoever tells you otherwise
I am right handed and southpaw. It doesn't matter if your stronger hand is in the rear or in the front. It doesn't matter if you write with one hand or the other. What matters is how good you are at rotating your hips to the right or to the left. My hip movement feels more natural on one side therefore I am a southpaw.
I've attacked people all over the comments of this video but, you may have just converted me. That's why skateboarders all fight like that, you've really opened my eyes on this one. I owe ya
That’s exactly how I feel, I’ve trained southpaw on accident while growing up without noticing it wasn’t normal. But now my hip moves so easily with it. So much movement, I can strafe around really fast and throw my punches with speed and retract at the same speed
@@SicFromTheKush that makes so much sense because most skaters push with their right and lead with the left leg. I’m a lefty and am a southpaw but I did skate in my childhood
Exactly why I’m switching
Yeah I always fight southpaw even though I wrote with my right hand naturally. I actually switch it up consistently depending where my opponent is in the ring if he's to my left south paw if hes on my right I fight orthodox. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't.
Next video: “Here’s why you shouldn’t fight in the right stance”
You guys are catching on.
Lol true
The weirdest thing is when actual left-handers like De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, and Andre Ward fight Orthodox.
Same concept as a right hander fighting southpaw...
Morpher
Left-handers make up only 10% of the population. So the chance of you fighting a true left-handed Southpaws are 10%.
True left-handed Southpaws fight Orthodox fighters 90% of the time. Thus there is little strategic benefit for a left-hander to fight Orthodox.
@@tomwalker389 im letting you know that your shit didnt make sense. Just ask yourself... Why?
De la Hoya was trained as an orthodox fighter because his first trainer didnt have the experience in training southpaws
I thought Oscar was a right handed southpaw.
As my boxing coach always told us. It doesn’t matter if you’re orthodox or south paw or a right handed south paw or a left handed orthodox. What really matters is if you can pull shit off.
Left-hand dominant boxer here (peek-a-boo guard).
I was trained in southpaw stance by my trainers, approx. 6-7 months.
I recently decided to go orthodox.
What I noticed is that my jab was so much faster and stronger and my hooks felt sooo much heavier, like miles apart.
Also I can protect my liver better, since it's now on my back foot (right side of the body).
Switching stances to create more angles has now become much more easier.
I guess what Mike's trying to say is something along the lines of "learn the basics first, then start experimenting". I agree with that. Training "the traditional way" really helped me develop my weak hand before deciding to switch stances.
Fun fact! : Engage your-self in soccer/basketball and play with both feet/hands, as a side activity. Great tool for stamina + increasing your weak's foot/hand power.
Developing ambidextry/ambipedality has really help my weaak hand's with power and my feet with mobility! Being doing it already for 2 months, and i've seen moderate to big improvements
Okay👍🏻
Everybody is a southpaw until they get bopped in the liver
I have never been a southpaw. Not even when I started.
I became both southpaw and orthodox thanks to karate. You're right the liver is exposed. But you can step in easier in certain cases. Trad karate makes you do both. Finding the positives in forcing both stances from the start.
Bro you acting like southpaw is a whole different stance then the orthodox stance, Southpaw is a mirror version of the orthodox. If you make a mistake as a orthodox, your liver would get popped too from a South paw. Iq'ued
Exactly
@jack boy they know 0 about boxing
I’m right handed, Been training orthodox for a while and recently started training in southpaw. The comfortability and power is increasing fast to the point that it’s making me question why it feels so good. Regardless I will keep training both sides, because I believe versatility is a vital key and I guess that only time will tell the ultimate stance for myself.
I haven't had any matches, but I'm a right handed switch hitter with a very unorthodox style and a really good 1 2
Versatility translates really well into mma I believe.
Lead dominant hand does feel better but dominant foot forward feels even better coming from a wrestler. Right left doesn’t matter. Need to be able to fight with both hands and not be s one handed fighter.
@@thatguyagain6781 shotout to switch hitters I was always otheodox until dabbling into kyokushin it taught using both stances. So I took that philosophy and started applying switch hitting techniques. I fight using both stances for boxing its more fluid. It's a bit harder in terms of proper foot placement but over time trial and error you learn. I see it as trading your lead jab for a more lucid and snappier cross.
I’m naturally a right handed southpaw when I would get into fights that would be my stance and would win my jabs are strong but I’ve noticed that my left isn’t as good not as powerful or accurate
“you’re not equally good with both hands. You equally suck with both hands” lol
I am a right handed and box southpaw mostly , it’s actually pretty common( Crawford, loma, Erickson lubin, Poirer ) . Also common for left handed orthodox fighters(cotto, de la Hoya, gsp.)
All of them are greats who learned southpaw. They weren’t great just like that
it feels natural to me my jab is way faster and stronger as well as my reflexes but he’s right i have no combinations and feel so restricted in that way since i can only throw a jab basically
Don't forget the greatest southpaw boxer of all time, Marvin Hagler
In my case is super rare, im still trying to find which stand should i use but i have these things
- im right handed (writting) but left footed
- my power leg is the left leg but in presition my right leg is better
-my left hand has more power but in presition my right hand is better
-always i were having more durability with my left hand than my right hand (for example in the gym i can do more repetition on bicep curl with my left hand than my right hand)
-for some reason i feel heavier my left foot than the right foot
So, should i keep using southpaw stance or what?
@@frankcocean gonna beat yo $#@!
After training fencing for 10 years being in southpaw is just a no-brainer for me. I've simply got way more mobility and coordination like that.
Long Jawn it’s really not the crazy 😂. I did fencing for like a month before boxing and it’s hard not to automatically go southpaw for me when i’m boxing
Same here big fencer in high school Moved on to MMA in the military but never got rid of the south but I’ve learned to switch back-and-forth but I still love my southpaw stats my footwork is stronger
I had the same experience, but in reverse; after being trained as an orthodox-side striker for ten years, I found fencing much easier with my left side forward. The hand is a bit less dextrous, but the feet are so much better at moving from that side.
It messes up people soooo badly when you spar full contact! Develop your southpaw folks!!!
Dude literal same, I fenced for years. it was great. Literally forced me southpaw for Muay thai.
I can’t even wipe my ass with my left hand. There’s no way I’m going to be able to throw a good cross with my left hand
Hey, you uh wanna explain that name?
That name....
Filthy Peasant
Part of it is thinking that Miesha Tate is hot, part of it is making fun of someone else for having the name “Taylor Swift’s Fart Box”
when I was a complete noob I tried being a "right handed southpaw" but in a short time I just realized orthodox is the best thing ever
I’m in the same boat wiping my ass but my left cross has gotten a lot better over the years
As someone who boxed for almost 6 years, I'm right handed but fought southpaw, so the concept of what feels natural is wrong is wrong. If you're fighting yourself you never get to fight your opponent.
Very well said
Not a very good boxer, obviously.
I trained orthodox for years until I trained with a JKD group and they suggested I switch. Was awkward at first, putting my power in front, but it improved my sparring so much. Now, I can fight in either stance and adapt perfectly, but I always start southpaw.
You can never tell someone what style suits them.
no but a fight will.
@@ny-juanfrost6299
"A" fight?
Possible. But for better results: testing a style in multiple fights, against multiple opponents. Then doing this with multiple styles for comparison.
The guy in the video trying to tell _everyone_ that they aren't right handed south paws, and that they aren't ambidextrous.... He's just flat out wrong.
@@shanerooney7288 actually if you’re starting out in boxing as a beginner. He is right. You learn boxing the normal way and then when you start getting good, that’s when you develop your own style and start bending the rules but when you’re starting off, you start the proper boxing way otherwise you’re just gonna get decked thinking you can do all the shit that professionals do. There is a reason why they’re professionals dude haha
@@recordingsbeforethenukeswe9588
The guy in the video is WRONG. period.
He is claiming "you're not ambidextrous. And your kid is definatly not ambidexterous."
He is saying "100% guarantee whatever feels 'natural' to you is wrong"
There is a "Normal" way to box. As in; the most common way. But just because it is the most common way doesn't mean a boxer is "bending the rules" for not boxing that way. THERE ARE NO RULES with regards to the stance you take.
The comman way is not the only "proper boxing way". Because the other stances aren't improper.
Is the Philley Shell considered a "wrong" way to box because it is less common?
How about the Peekaboo guard?
High guard vs Low guard, is one "wrong" and the other "right" ?
Square stance vs Sideways stance?
There is more than one way to "properly" box, and the dominant hand forward stance is on that list.
@@ny-juanfrost6299 cornball
I'm left handed, and your comment "growing up in a right handed world" was spot on. Most times I fight southpaw, but I'm allergic to head kicks so...
Same... and I'm also allergic to right handed wrestlers. Fuckkkkk those single legs feel impossible not to fall prey too.
@@strikeforcek9149 Right handed, southpaw wrestler here.
Look for the guillotine, or turn into a God level sprawler. Classic High School style cow catchers work too, if you're a bigger dude. Get out there and train :)
Im allergic to fighting in general but I got to a school with a 1 fight per day average
Hackar 209 lmao are you from Modesto? ( asking cause of the 209)
I can very well relate to this too. Being naturally left handed (slicing cake and tightening bolts and such), but learned writing and playing guitar right handed, because of this a little more strength right handed side, but still a lot faster on left handed side. Up till now still figuring out what works out best, mostly othodox but switching at moments just to confuse. I do train on this specifically. Does this make me a left-handed orthodox?
Good video. I have this same bad habit. My first arts were wrestling and then stick-fighting (Latosa Escrima). In both I used a right lead. Latosa was also a boxer, and taught boxing style power generation, but when teaching weapon use, we always trained "power-side forward" (right lead for right handers). Makes perfect sense holding a weapon ...so that became my "norm". Maybe like Icy Mike says here, I would have been better off learning conventional, left lead first, but I'm old as F so it's too late now. BTW Rene Latosa just passed on. RIP coach.
I think you're right about using the dominant side to train first because it's the way that someone develops a clean technique. They can use the good technique to train their dumb hand and foot for switching stances later. I'm shocked to finally find someone teaching others to fight from either side though. I've trained, spared and rolled with belt holders from multiple tournaments even the big tournament and former professional boxers and I find it rare to see someone who acknowledges that switching stances is something that is to be working towards. I'm going to be watching those videos soon. You have a great channel.
As a left handed south paw, I'm having fun reading these comments
I swear, i have been doing most things righties do with right with my left right from when i was born, and that translated into boxing, and ppl here bickering abojt Oscar ad Tyson being left handed orthodox is funny
Same
I'm a left handed orthodox. Reason being I've played basketball for years before I got into Mauy Thai, so my left feet being the pivot foot, feels comfortable at the front.
Im a left handed orthodox kinda. Lmao I'm left handed but where I grew up, being left handed was a bad thing so I was made to do things right handed. I write extremely slow as a result but when I started kickboxing, the people at the gym determined that I'm for sure left handed because of this test they do on new students where they just beat them and I always tried to block shit with my left hand
Also: do you know a Jesse Aguilar?
Also we both said “you just suck with both hands” at the same time 😂😂😂 I need more Mike in my life.
Hahaha have you had a bunch of parents swear their kid is ambidextrous too?
Some people (like my brother) are actually ambidextrous. And I swear I'm not an ignorant doting brother, he can actually write with both hands
I think this might apply different if you're long. Since I know the reason I do southpaw as a righty is that I want to put more pressure on my jab to make it more dangerous for shorter guys to get on my inside. I think you're right in that beginners will definitely do that by instinct since you'd be better at defense with your dominant hand. But if you're long that's a pretty decent strategy since if your opponent respects your jab they won't be running in to throw haymakers.
My grandpa told me about fencers learning to fight with their non dominant hand so I learned to figure out techniques fighting with my right hand forward and once I got it down I would learn it left hand forward. It helped a lot
I'm right handed and i fight southpaw. I wouldn't consider myself to be 'a southpaw' as such, but having done jeet kune do for a while I was forced to train my weaker (left) hand as my power punch/cross. It's to help with versatility in all situations I guess. I'm equally as comfortable fighting orthodox or southpaw but due to repetition I automatically go southpaw. Cool video, enjoyed this.
With fencing and JKD I have a lot of fine motor skills in my right. Though mainly I like southpaw to fuck with people's minds.
Imma southpaw and I'm ambidextrous but I still know my accuracy and power is def in my left
@Jamie B preach fam it's only like 10% of ppl who are truly left handed
@Jamie B I knew you were from how u explained in the comment even though you were speaking about the physical aspect I can see from your mental psyche or breakdown that you a lefty and we got to hold it down for the small percentage of us in the world blessings and good health
Kieron Doherty I do both too I can fight both stances almost just as well
"You're not ambidextrous, and your kid DEFINITELY isn't ambidextrous"
This hurted my feelings, bro... I'm trying 😂
Lol everyone keeps coming in here telling me their kid is a phenom. It's just statistically impossible they're all phenoms haha
Oh yeah ambidextrous people don't exist. It's a fucking LEARNED ability, mo-ron
@@davidjones8043 isn’t ambidextrous also a talent? I’m right handed but because of kickboxing I’m a switch fighter but preferred use southpaw
Hurted isn’t a word ‘bro’
@@ophiolatreia93 who fucking cares
Marvin Hagler used his strong hand first, hence why he was so powerful with the jab. Can't agree with this when many fighters were successful using their dominant hand first.
I just got into ur channel ur good shit bro keep pumping em out
I’m right handed and I’ve fought southpaw my whole life and this video fucks with my anxiety
do what suits you lol who the fuck this guy think he is a yoda or smthng
I'm right handed but I've always felt better Southpaw, and I spent years training HEMA with a heavy shield in myleft hand so my left arm is actually noticeable stronger than my right.
Do what suits you.
I'm not saying this guys wrong, just he ain't always right.
@@amir-bz2he LMAO
@@amir-bz2he same. I did TKD competitions standing Southpaw and I'm right handed. My instructor never corrected my stance.
@@amir-bz2he for real I've never even heard of this guy and the dislike count is hidden. I'm sure there are response videos to this guy. There always is.
Im southpaw, Right handed and left footed. I actually like my strong hand forward so when I slip I can come back with a fast hard jab and follow it up with whatever the left leg brings
I’m a orthodox left handed and left footed 😂
Same with me😂
Same. Left leg dominant right hand dominant. It is what it is.
Orrrr hear me out cornball. Why don’t you just switch stances when you pivot and murk them with the right hand forward
No way I've actually found a fellow left foot right hand !! I was forced as a kid to use ortho stance in boxing due to me being right hand dominant. It now feels natural to me after years at it obvcourse but always wonder what if 😂
Definitely a right handed southpaw here. No doubt about it. I skateboard goofy, box southpaw, grapple/clinch/defend takedowns with right hand forward, and write with my right hand.
I'm the exact same with J boarding, skate boarding, I even hold my knife and fork the wrong way, I'm right handed but even used to play cricket south paw. So I have no clue what this guys trying to say
exactly same here, I switched to southpaw after a shoulder injury and it became natural to me, I hands down do everything as a southpaw either way though, skateboarding/downhill long boarding I'm goofy, wrestle right foot forward same for judo stance... it just works for me, and I have several state championships and a national championship to vouch for the effectiveness of my style.
@@kdude1000 yup same story here down to the wrestling
Same. Skateboard goofy and box southpaw. Right handed. I fight well but dunno if having a right “2” is better.
@@chocolatepudding6146 In my opinion, if you do things such as skateboard goofy id recommend learning south paw and having the ability to fight southpaw and orthodox, works for me. Most people also wont see it coming if you start the fight doing orthodox and midway switching to southpaw. It has its benefits and negatives tho
You just don’t rate southpaw because you’ve learnt using orthodox
Did you listen to anything he said?
I'm a competitive athlete who'd done karate for 17 years or so (we used to learn a technique from both stances but in fighting I've mostly been orthodox, occasionally switching when it feels right for my offence) The thing is, when I came to a kickboxing gym and they started to teach me their way to punch, i really struggled with the form of my jab and hooks, even the rear straight. But whenever I stood southpaw, it all came out naturally. With time it stopped being a thing, all it took is some experimenting and I was able to fathom the technique)
Practicing at home also made me realize that my legs are probably of a slightly different length, the overall alignment of my body is not perfect, the condition of my joints and tendons adds up to this. All this really affects the way I move.
Not arguing anything, just adding to the discussion))
He's just so wise. @hard2hurt you're a fricking sage man.
“Your not Lomachenko” Bruh this man makes sense just a little if it feels natural then keep that stance and work hard to build up that left hand my right handed southpaw boxers
I started standing Southpaw cause it fucked with the right handed people in my taekwondo classes. They'd think my dominant hand was weak and then boom- chest check with the lead fist.
What he said was so dumb. Imagine if someone gave this advicd to Loma before he got started...
well loma started from noob to pro too so when he was noob he is southpaw right handed too right? and his human too and im human to and youre human too so we can all do everything that loma can do
What feels natural isn’t what works, same thing applies to baseball, basketball, football, and pretty much any other sport
@@iamfriendly6483 I'm thinking this dude got beat up by a RH southpaw a few times and is just spewing venom.
Bruce Lee's recommended strong side forward stance cannot be ignored for street fighting. Oscar De La Hoya, Gerry Cooney, Henry Cooper, Marvin Hagler, Ray Mancini, Lomachenko, all made the style work for them. In Joe Frazier's book he turns around left-handed fighters and makes them orthy for the hard jab and lead hook. The rear hand comes along with work. Just playing devil's advocate lol.
Andre Ward, Miguel Cotto among others have done it to great success it just takes practice
So lefties should 100% be fighting orthy?
@@platinumcod1378 Well all I can tell you is from my own experience as a lefty fighting orthy for awhile once you get muscle memory in one stance its tough to switch to another. Try both and see what you like best. The left hook from a converted southpaw is a very hard punch, like swinging a baseball bat, all your being goes into it. From personal experience I got killed fighting southpaw, got cracked with right crosses down the middle. Your jabs meet in mid air and there's a lot of pawing. As an orthodox fighter I was a lot better. The two styles are entirely different.
Mirko Cro cop
Its odd too because this is a very blanketed video Im ambidextrous because I trained dance for 13 years while im technically right handed. Sensei is left handed, so when I spar with martial arts I switch but if Im doing only boxing I box southpaw, but can switch. It depends on training in boxing as well as previous training in other sports. Sometimes people enter a class and are not a blank slate.
Personally, I liked to mirror my opponents. Having my lead hand in front of their jabbing hand made dealing their set ups easier. Also, I get a clearer view of their back leg and hand. But growing up in TKD, Shotokan, Kajukenbo and even boxing, I was always taught to fight from both sides.
I was looking for a video on changing the settings in Minecraft to southpaw and stumbled upon this. I had some weird TIA-type of thing back in July and despite being righty, I’ve preferred using my left since. It’s been weird, and at times inconvenient. I don’t do any kind of martial arts, but this made me think of it. Very interesting and fun video. I learned a lot about a subject I genuinely didn’t know existed.
intresting, i prefer my righthand settings but im lefthanded
“Learn the rules like a pro to break them like an artist”.- Your Mom
Loma said in an interview he has been southpaw since starting as a child so you’re wrong he didn’t start doing it when he was great also no to mention Marvin hagler, Usyk ,de la Hoya mike Tyson, Miguel cotto, Tyson fury and many more fighter who put there stronger hand forward, not only this but on many occasions I have been told the jab is the most important punch so why would I not want my better hand doing it? also your lead hand lands way more because it’s the faster less seen punch. Not to mention some people find it easier to move of there strong leg (lead leg dominance) and many believe movement to be more important than power and lastly your dominant eye can play a huge role in which stance is better for you as it effects how you see punches coming which is crucial for defence I understand your points but think it would be interesting to see your counter arguments to mine thanks.
I am a true southpaw, I write with my left hand, I'm blind in my left eye, also a wrestling stance would have you stand with your left leg back with few exceptions, maybe that's why some guys want to stand southpaw is because the nature to wrestle. I like your view on fighting though, you have some cool points.
Left leg back wrestling stance is a normal right handed stance fyi..but great perspectives
Thank you the other thing I forgot to say is some people like Terrance Crawford has mentioned just prefer the feeling of balance it gives them as it makes your weaker hand more powerful by moving it to the back and it makes your stronger hand faster by moving it closer.
Thank you for this
@@bremertoncitizen4667 no problem you’re welcome
I've always felt more natural in southpaw but trained orthodox. Early on I liked baiting people into a "stance dance" retreat but plant my feet and throw a right hook with them coming forward. It's a fun little trick to pull and you can generate surprising power into a target coming at you.
personally, I don’t agree with the beginning statement but I did find this educational. Thanks OP!!
I feel more comfortable having my right hand forward and I started out like that and still fight that way 5 years later. It’s not wrong or bad.
I'm in the southpaw stance as well and yes I have my right hand forward but it isn't the hand I depend on.
"If it doesn't apply, then it shouldn't offend you. And if it does offend you, then it definitely applies "
Most accurate statement ever...
Tolin Peterson dumb shit is offensive rather it applies or not lmao.
All good trainers talk about comfortable. Your suppose to be comfortable when you fight.
Plenty of fighters are right hand southpaws. Oscar, Loma, marquez
This is just a way for closed minded people to dismiss someone who’s different and try and make you feel stupid. Same argument that feminists use when they attack a whole gender and then u argue back
you had me going in the first half, and the title lol. that was my first 10 years of boxing all over again. had to learn traditional standing and movement before they let me play how I wanted. it's a very casual mindset to not want to learn fundies first
Thanks for breaking this down, I was told I wasn’t a true southpaw because I don’t throw my left hand as often but that’s due to my left shoulder slightly injured. I’m left handed and southpaw since it’s right for me, thanks for breaking this down because I was thinking about trying Orthodox since I’m not nearly experienced on orthodox and I rely on my footwork mostly and my left hand but I can’t throw it because injury. I’m left handed and I step forward with my right leg, I’m having trouble trying Orthodox because I want to be the most well rounded I can
I’m right handed and “naturally” fight left handed forward as it makes much more sense to have power coming from farther away, however, fighting southpaw has proven to be much more effective for me. So idk about this chief.
How did you measure that effectiveness?
hard2hurt both friendly sparring and not so friendly fighting; But to be fair I switch my stance very often while fighting based off of situational positioning and my opponent’s stance.
@@hard2hurt Do you have any experience with mixed handed fighters? I write left, throw right, bat left, kick right, shoot hoops right. I have equal power in both punching hands but my right jab feels better. However I notice my defense is not as good when I box southpaw.
@@j-r-m7775 dangerous
Not a competitive athlete by any means but I have been training in the self defense realm for awhile, back when I was in Krav I had my trainer "force" me so to speak to lead with my dominate hand even though every instinct I had told me to keep my left hand lead. It's good to know my spidey senses weren't incorrect in this. Thanks for all the great content here at Hard2Hurt it's much appreciated especially when I am having talks with my less experienced friends and they sound like you when you're mimicking the key board cowboys.
I have a question, lmao when I first started, i was a orthodox, but I wanted to get comfortable with southpaw and now orthodox feels awkward for me, I could switch but I feel like my jab is better at southpaw. And I have been trying to fix this for a year, lol how do you fix this?
I understand fully and am not here to argue, i should start by saying ive been doing martial arts since i was 5 its the one passion i have other than gaming, but i totally did this my first time, my sensei corrected me and i worked on my left more cause it was really weak in comparison then after some months i began training both to be good with boths hands, actually my 2 fav fighters are Lomachenko and Marvelous Marvin Hagler who are switch fighters and damn good at it so im saying IT CAN BE LEARNED but it takes lots of time and instruction and it can definitely open up your skill set now with proper foot work you gain new angles you didnt have access to by being a single stance fighter
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” - Pablo Picasso
There are no rules. It's a man made rule that a lefty should be a southpaw. What a ridiculous rule. Do what works for you. To some people like me being a right handed Southpaw works better.
@@angelolacap9681 It is a stupid ass rule Lomachenko and Usyk are both right handed southpaws. Since a great jab is possibly the most important thing in boxing they trained as southpaws to use their strong hand as the jab
thebeyegee the point of the video is newbies learn to fight with your dominant hand back then once you’ve gotten that down really well then you can switch it up and my guy your not loma
@@razalfraz6618 You're an idiot, you dont have to be Loma to be a right handed southpaw. AND SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS MIKE TYSON WAS A LEFT HANDED ORTHODOX FIGHTER
Here's a few examples of right handed Southpaws:
Prince Naseem Hamed
Chad Dawson
Victor Ortiz
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Marvin Hagler
Vasyl Lomachenko
Hector Camacho
Raushee Warren
Winky Wright
Michael Moorer
Sergio Martinez
Juan Urango
Antonio DeMarco
Tony Thompson
Joe Calzaghe
Juan Manuel Lopez
Mosley, Dela Hoya and Crawford are orthodox but can stance switch and not to mention. All superb fighters, so long story short, shut your f-ing mouth because you don't know a single thing about boxing you ignorant casual. Stick to watching the karate kid
@@razalfraz6618 what you don't understand is being left handed or right handed is a matter of natural instincts right? Being an orthodox or a southpaw is also a matter of natural instinct. People are infinitely better with their natral instincts.
Fighting is about being open minded and learning new things, testing boundaries, finding new ways to move around. Each time the fight game evolves its because a new guy trains a different way & we learn in the art.
This video is about beginners who refuse to attempt orthodox stance for a significant amount of time because of their “natural inclination.” Not just closed minded, but intentionally ignorant as well. You are making his point for him.
I really needed to hear this, thanks
As someone that has had 4 pro fights. The southpaw stance is a great way to start the fight if you know your opponent is technical. it's nice to have the surprise factor when you switch to orthodox.
That switch hitting doesn't work against a true boxer he'll adjust instantly when you switch
@@wnbagotnext7251 your probably right but in MMA and kickboxing it's a little harder for guys to adjust especially when they thought they had u figured out
@@thechosenwon4089 exactly, you factor in the calf kicks high kicks knees. switching in MMA is pretty useful. but as for boxing a true elite boxer would adjust accordingly no problem. 2 different worlds both awesome tho💪
@@thechosenwon4089 Just switching won‘t surprise them. How you do it will
@@wnbagotnext7251 Switch hitting on itself doesn’t but the way you do it can either work or not work
As a lefty I can confirm that we pick up more dexterity in our right hand making adjustments to a right-handed world, but most of us aren't ambidextrous, And yes I can swap back and forth between orthodox and southpaw but that from practice and being nice to confused sparring partners
I'm left handed since birth!
1 year ago I felt more comfortable with the left hand forward but with a week of practice I got into my left handed stance when I first started!
HArd2hurt, may i ask you, given that so many southpaws are up and around in ufc level, and some are even mixed, and there are lots who win fights, do you think this statements can no longer be perceived as likely true or valid?
"Our natural instincts tells us to hit as hard as possible", "our natural instincts is not to hit each others".
Stop the painkillers, Mike.
'Painkiller' Mike, new wrestling name.
If you're going to use quotes, it's supposed to be things I actually said.
@@hard2hurt Oh gee, you totally got me on that one! It completely annihilates the fact that you've contradicted yourself in a few minutes gap while claiming to be talking about fighting in a realistic a serious way.
"Our natural is not to hit each others" - when exactly did he say that?
@@ChristheCEO1 When he said we are not design to hit each others, and that our natural instincts drives us to grapple
I started by doing Tae Kwon Do, and in that we were taught how to do every single technique with both feet and both hands. I chose to use my right hand because my left cross is almost as strong as my right, but my right jab is better, so I choose to train southpaw
Same! I'd much rather train my left cross up to par and capitalize on mt already developed right jab then have to star over with both in the standard stance. I understand training both sides but southpaw feels right after years of tkd
Well of course you guys feel all screwed up... you have been training taekwondo for years
@@hard2hurt ooooooowwww yeah, kabooom
@@hard2hurt lol burn
You should be just as good with each stance but at the same time naturally you have more power in your strong side arm. . . A jab with your stong arm isn't as effective as a straight with your strong arm
I thought about switching to southpaw but for different reasons to what you said people do it in the video. first, I broke my right hand some years ago, so it doesn't make sense to load up power shots from that hand. second, the liver is on the right side of the body, it's better protected from rib kicks right foot forward because you can't switch kick into a southpaw that side and your regular kicks land more to that person's left. third, my right leg is much better at things like hook kicks, head kicks and just kicking in general - minor sciatica actually makes it slightly difficult to angle kicks effectively from the right side of the body with the left kick forwards, or to do lead kicks with the left leg. finally power is better distributed between my left and right hand that way because the stronger punch - the cross uses a weaker hand - so there won't be as much difference between the jab and cross. but in spite of these things I never made the change as southpaw doesn't feel natural since I had already learned through orthodox (but you also pointed out in the video what feels natural isn't what you should do). but I don't think whether you are southpaw or orthodox should depend purely on whether you are left vs right-handed.
thank you for explaining in detail when and why you would tell someone to start orthodox and when you can change stances and why.
Man, I love being a Southpaw
me too
"Blaa blaa blaa.. You're wrong and I have no reasons to tell you why!" Lol! This video on something so old and basic has been needed for such a surprisingly long time!
Yes. It seems like everyone with no boxing experience has their strong hands in front. It doesn't work because most can't throw a straight left.
@@snowconeman512 Even though they gave a ton of reasons as to why strong side forward is better and named a ton of fighters that fight like that. You done lying now?
@@PikUpYourPantsPatrol did you read my first sentence? I said people with no experience. You done trying to make me look dumb?
Gotta give props where there due, this is such a good motivator that hes getting you ready to train subconsciously to you lol Cheers man!
Very similar to music where improvising isn't necessarily wrong or right but your grasp of and respect for the fundamentals/context shapes everything. Only after applying and learning can you then improvise.
Vanilla is a description I never expected would be used to describe a fighting stance...
Ioanna OtiNanai this is why I love his channel so much!
Πονηρούλα.
You know what I mean haha
Learning how to jab with my right hand greatly improved my left-handed jab, because it helped me understand the kinetic chain and body mechanics of a jab
The body mechanics behind a jab can be explained to anyone in minutes, and understand the punch after hours of high rep movements - aka heavy bag / shadow boxing with feedback.
It’s literally a linear path. How difficult to understand (key here: understand not master) could you possibly find it?
I was confused at first but your clarification about yourself using it while sparring helped me understand what you meant
I do kickboxing and it’s a great feint because everyone thinks I’m about to do a switch kick
2:23 is when I turned this video off
That line was ment to induce insecurities and disconfodence
The absolute worst thing you can do in life is limit yourself because weather you believe it or not you will shatter your own expectations
Look up red bull art of motion and you will understand friend
And that's not just boxing that's life in general
I write left-handed, and when I was in the college club boxed orthodox. Though never a competitive boxer, the coach saw some potential in me. Initially he did urge me to try both stances and we had to stick with orthodox based on my footedness, torque pattern, and coordination, though with some regret of foregoing advantages of southpaw. Also, I stand on a skateboard in the regular position and fall to the right foot. In boxing, my opponents were all taller, so I wanted to develop a strong and accurate lead hook coming off a roll. I was not at a high level or anything, but I think it was the correct stance for my body mechanics. I also kick soccer balls right legged. Some people who write with one hand aren't necessarily strictly dominant on that side.
Finally someone else admits that it's right handed people World the struggle is real Mike
I love how straight up he is
Loving the brutal honesty
Wow I had no idea. This actually helped me. Thank you
What this guys saying is false. They're are massive benefits to fighting dominant hand backwards as well as forwards. I mean what about fighters who aren't naturally that good? If they're righty and you put them in southpaw then that can make up for some of their lack of skill. What if you don't have power? Fighting with your front hand forward will take away from your power depending on your style of fighting but if you don't have power than it would be beneficial for you to fight dominant hand forward because you'll probably land more jabs which will help you on points. Tons of world former world champions are left handed orthodox fighters because southpaws used to not "make good fights" so they trained them lefty. Look at Oscar De La Hoya he was lefty and one of the things that helped him on his journey to a world champion was his mean front left hook. Honestly do what ever fits you best maybe even be a switch hitter and fight in natural stance sometimes idk.
Even when I was young , I didn’t know what south paw even was, but I always had my strong had in the back and left in front .
Hey right handed southpaw here and can fight orthodox - and I agree with you entirely.
I actually learned Orthodox first and once I got good with my natural fighting style and defence I started to work on my southpaw then switched as my primary stance due to it becoming more effective for me. Right handed southpaw is hard. Very very hard.. Right handed southpaws don't do 1-2 combos, they tend to do 1-2-1 combos (power jab, cross, power jab) and tend to fight with a leading hook which is very hard to catch a skilled opponent with. You need to be careful against infighters as your left cross can be very weak and you won't generate enough power in your jab to really push them back.
It's very hard to counter if you are a right handed southpaw, to me it's a very offensive stance - You can apply pressure to the opponents lead hand but if you start throwing combos that are easy to read and get caught on the counter especially against another southpaw I find. You need to apply constant pressure and it can be tiring but I've been told it's very difficult to defend against if done correctly.
As a right handed south paw myself defense is key to stopping those counters and a more squared up stance helps with the weak power from the lead right hand turning a jab into more of a straight
My muay thai coach has a saying. "You do everything fundamentally, and until you have 300 fights, you can do things incorrectly". And it makes sense, there is a bell curve to learning, and once you hit a certain point on that curve, you may have to switch things up to keep the 4d chess game playing. As someone who started orthodox, had a shoulder injury which prevented me from throwing left lead hooks, I had to switch to southpaw. Now, I can fight both stances.
I trained orthodox all my life then got shoulder surgery on my left and tore my right shortly after. Trained for the last couple years southpaw and with my left arm being my dominant now I'm just more confident throwing power punches and pushing off for power with my left side.
12 sec into the video and I already feel attacked
I saw you standing southpaw and knew you couldn't defend.
Me too
Same bro
hard2hurt wrong
I come from a JKD, eskrima, and silat background. For the most part we trained southpaw first because A.) our fine motor skills are more developed in our right hand which lends itself well to trapping, parrying and other movements that require more finesse B.) it's the hand that's going to be holding the melee weapon, and C.) to utilize footwork against orthodox fighters. We treated the left hand as the shield and General purpose slugging weapon when finesse wasn't called for.
There are a lot of variables in this issue of strong side forward.
Some people are ambidextrous or partially ambidextrous and switching sides is easier for them. I am partially ambidextrous so going strong side forward is not so foreign to me and comes with the penalty of a weaker #2 punch.
Some kickers have injured knees (me severed left ACL, right handed fighter). I find that I have learned to throw some offensive power kicks that require base leg rotation such as rear leg roundhouse or any side thrust kick, with my left leg while rotating on my good right knee.
There are also tactical incentives for going strongside forward eg. when an overly aggressive opponent is vulnerable to a stop kick on the middle line, I find going strong side forward and baiting his rush then stopping him with a stiff, belt level side thrust kick is a good tactic.
And finally when a kicking attack fizzles out and the opponent starts his counterattack, at least a 1/3 of the time I am strongside forward when he comes in so it is important for me to be able to dish some punishment out on him with my strongside forward until I can get clear and get myself sorted out again.
Love your channel!
LOVE the philosophy of it, thank you,
I have the greatest success in sparring when I switch stances fluidly. When i confine myself to orthodox I'm stiffer and less versatile
I'm a "right handed southpaw" and I was literally thinking loma when you mentioned him 😄😄😄😄
Your right and I think it's such skill and technique to learn to fight and hit properly
For the most part this rings true to our start in martial arts stuff in general.
Only real difference is we started switching stance from the start, our footwork was atrocious for a lil' while but that's mostly down to slow development of fine motor skills (Tyvm Autism you neurological marvel of messing with how the body and mind function).
Still switching stance on the rare occasions that we do any training these days, quite happily able to do most stuff more or less equally with either side now, feels good ngl.
I think I needed this video. Although I'm still gonna train both sides.
I am a right handed person. I think i have much better output of fighting power in southpaw stance. Throwing mostly left cross punches. It also balances you very well if you use mainly your weaker hand.
thanks i was a left handed orthodox but not that i switched to the correct southpaw stance my footwork feels so much better
Hey Icy! Great video as usual. Though I love the content, I have to partially disagree on this one. I'm an amateur boxer from Costa Rica and my trainer taught be to box from a southpaw stance as a right handed person. He is the trainer of Hanna Gabriels and Bryan Vazquez along with other local boxing figures that have achieved world titles. I've had the blessing to able to take the sport seriously and compete in multiple local championships and regularly spar with pros (including a few world champs from my area).
I think that you're definitely right when you imply that this is not something you should just come up with and think you can do it. But at the same time, I think it is entirely possible to be successful if a reputable trainer, with experience and knowledge, chooses to guide you through that path. But therein lies the key, you will need guidance. You will need to work your back hand as if your life depended on it, learn the positioning aspects of being a southpaw, and practice a lot. If you use a stance as a shortcut, you'll end up being an incomplete fighter.
If you commit and work, and have a great coach, it is totally achievable.
Right handed southpaw here, due to a boxer's break on my right hand and a bad fracture on right foot (it also helps I was formerly ambidextrous as child).
But I was initially trained left hand forward.
I’m a southpaw, and right handed. Trust me i was born like this. I can’t change it. For me, it so hard for to change my stance, or even use lift hand. All the power is in my right hand
How do you bat ?
your power hand isn't supposed to be your lead hand lmao
I'm a right-handed switch hitter
@@taxevasion4202 that’s why u make ur left hand powerful which Is what I’m doing
Why would you want your jab to be on your stronger arm
Great Vid. I want this one on one😊
Beautiful!!! I switch often enough that folks don’t know what my dominant is.
Then again, I’m no pro 🤷🏻♂️
"you are starting you are supposed to suck do not be afraid of sucking!"
"It's not he is doing it so it must be good it's that he is good so he is allowed to do it"
So many things on this videos can be applied to so many things thank you.
Any pursuit really.