Looked like a fool but he took some pretty good shots and didn't go down. That isn't what nerds do. Your ass would have been on the deck so stop talking trash
Sean has almost verbatim said: 'The first day I started training I got the absolute shit beaten out of me, and I've never been so happy in my life,' or something to that effect. I think that alone gives us the insight we need into the situation.
2 questions: 1. Why did he got the shit beaten out of him the first day training, i don't think that is something that should happen? 2. Why would he be happy about that?
@@ashuranero5721Sean never had the best upbringing so it's kinda understandable that he would've been an asshole even as a child but I think the reason he felt so happy about having the shit beat out of him is because it's the first time he's felt a sense of belonging, a play to release his pain and also being humbled.
@@michaellovinon3467 Why would he feel a sense of belonging when someone beats the shit out of you? And why would one want to be humled? And how is it a release of pain when someone beats you up, isn't that the opposite: receiving pain?
This is the reason I love watching your content Mike. You're a coach 90% of the time but when things get real you know when and how to talk real. Thats what a man should be
I have been there also, I used to train and spar with boxers now I do not do it. . and sometimes I got beat up. . . but I did not care. . . boxing teaches humility... because at the end everyone got hurt on a small or large way
being a good coach/martial artist requires you to be able to analize situations/flights and search for a way to improve ,works for real life not just martial arts altough for me martial arts is a way of life .
The abusive father thing is on point. It makes me think back to my football coach, he was ridiculously mean, on the edge of abuse, and everyone on the team wanted him to love us. Convexly, my hockey coach actually cared about us, and he spent a lot of time and effort making sure we understood why we were doing everything we did. In the end, I took both of those lessons into fatherhood and use my hockey coach’s methods for training my children, even discipline comes with an explanation as to the why and how. I still love playing hockey, because of the good role model of coach Kenny.
It's either that, or a tactic of abuse 🤷 Like the guy who cracks his missos then tells her to keep her chin up and gives her a kiss. I'm not well versed with either character, so I'm not to say.
Sean told Forrest at the beginning that he promised not to punch him in the body. Sneako heard him say that, he turtled up with boxing gloves on, and left his body wide open. If Sean really wanted to KO him he could have ripped a liver shot, and it would've been done.
@@woodardkingsbury1648 You ever seen someone turtle up do you even know where the liver is if you think the right elbow can't cover it without dropping a guard think again. It's not really that easy with those gloves it's why they're made so contest could be longer.
That's what I keep trying to tell these ignorant people who say Sean should have hit him in the body to go easy on him. Hitting the body is *not* going easy on someone...
I was one of those, who smiled when Snek got tread on. But it's not because of sadism, nor because I was jealous. I smiled because an arrogant person met reality in a way that cannot be dodged by lying to yourself or making excuses. It may hurt a bit, but the most it hurts the ego, and sometimes it is good. I used to do "ninjutsu" when I was 16. My uncle did kickboxing on the European level. I thought I was tough as titanium nails, even though I had never sparred because "our style was too dangerous". After 20min in the ring with him going light on me I didn't feel tough anymore. He congratulated me for not quitting, after which we got some ice for my face and nose. I dropped bulshido and went to boxing and HEMA, then joined the military a few years later. One of my best memories.
I didn't know who Sneeko was. Just watched like 2 videos and immediately lost all respect for him. People who get embarrassed like this don't necessarily find humility though. I knew a guy who would get beat up at bars all the time and still start shit. He just never cared enough about himself for self-preservation. Some people just never hit bottom. Most people just keep telling themselves they have something to offer in some other arena. Which is true but being able to punch good feels like it trumps a lot of other things when you get punched.
There's a difference between gently enlightening a delusional child and what happens with Strickland's sparring "partners". He's deliberately knocked people out when they were supposed to be going light. He has a reputation for it. This IS sadism. Strickland doesn't do this to help. He does it for the same reason most bullies do it, because it strokes their ego. Strickland doesn't give a fuck what Sneako thinks, nor does he care about the damage he does to the people that spar with him. He DOES care about when his peers, the true professional fighters, go hard on him however. He'll be soft as a kitten when sparring someone who can fight back and maybe actually hurt him, and he'll whine and bitch when one of these guys goes a little too hard. All earmarks of a classic bully, and it's no suprise that Strickland's father was physically and psychologically abusive. It's clear as day, even without Strickland going on record about it.
@@jltg34 Very good point. You put this really well, and made me think about it. There is a difference, there really is. Now, I actually feel bad for the Sneako-Strickland case. You're right. I'll leave my comment up, so yours will stay up. Thank you 🙏🏻
Sneako asks people that he thinks he can beat up to fight ALL THE TIME and when they say ok he finds a way to back out or change the subject…Karma caught up to Sneako period.
@@hard2hurthe threatened to beat up and shoot MoistCritical, threatened violence against multiple female TH-camrs, thats just off the top of my head, I'm sure if I did research I could find more examples. All while he's consistently ducking a fight challenge from Brandon Buckingham, who Sneako tried to cancel with false SA allegations.
I like that he got beat not because I want him to be hurt but because I think he’s a bit of a bully and a wimp at the same time and just acts tough on camera.
@@aaronjackson2720 literally everyone including Sneako knew that though. Sean isn't claiming to be something else. He repeatedly says he is just a psycho who happened to make it big in the UFC.
Of course Sneacko knew something like that was going to happen, but maybe he didn't fully understand what it really meant. That's the kind of thing that you think you know what it's like, but you only really understand it after you experience it.
I teach armored combat - people think they can pick up a weapon and just hit you like swinging a baseball bat. Then you literally can hit them at will - combat is a skill and you need training or a lot of luck.
Everyone is all offended for Sneako but he liked it. He even said later that Sean didnt cross the line. Its like fools asking Chuck Lidell to punch their arm or leg kick them.
Sean wanted to point out to the idiots on the internet that you don't just challenge a fucking ufc champion and try to spar him like he is some nobody from the streets.
Watch the whole original video folks. Sneako was told by 5 different people Sean was going to blast him. He (Sneako) said aloud...fuck, this is going to hurt. It was 100% understood what was going to happen. There was no misconception. Sean was going to hit him in the face after toying with him until he fell. As far as Sean trying to knock him out...he never tapped the body to drop the hands. That was the kindness Sean extended.
but in this video we see right before the sparring, he asks Sean if he'd do his podcast if they spar it seems he did the sparring with the hopes of interviewing Sean
He may have had 5 people tell him what would happen, but he's had a lifetime of shonen anime telling him tough guys who stick through the beating get respect.
Sean also said in interviews the first day in walked into a gym he thought he was tough shit and they fucked him up bad. This is the culture he was raised in. He loved it.
I remember when we used to hate when people like Hector Lombard, who did this in the gym. Like, Josh Barnett and Hector had that legendary sparring session where coach, Eric Paulson just let Josh manhandle him for 30m. It all started because Hector was such a gym bully. Now we applaud it. Weird.
"we", who are we?.. As for me, I did not applaud a single second of this shit. (Of course, referring to the original video, not the Mike's breakdown, which I thought came to a brilliant ending.)
While I somewhat agree this was a bit rough, a fully grown adult man challenged the former champ knowing exactly who he is and what he is all about and at the very least knew he would get his ass kicked (he didn't know how bad, you never do until you experience it). That is way different than Lombard fucking up his training partners who were there to learn and grow. He didn't come in for a boxing lesson with Sean and then Sean just randomly started beating on him. Lombard was different because people were mutually there to learn and he would just snap your knee in half for fun.
@@mortekaieve4729 I agree Sneako is a grown adult and can make his own decisions but Sean should have at least went to the body and/or just rag dolled him. Going to the head so much could have given the young man more brain damage. Look at the Merab vs. fan video and how he handled it. And Hector wasn’t just a gym bully to other teammates, he was doing this at a time when regular students could train with the public, and Hector would just pummel them. Ofc this led to them never returning and him being booted from many gyms. You remember Mike Pierce? He said ex UFC WW Rick Story would do this too. At one point really injuring someone. You can probably find the video/audio on here. But all in all I think we’re on the same page here. 👌
@@MMAGamblingTips Yeah, 100% if I were world champ material I wouldn't even entertain something like this and think Strickland should have gone easier, but unless you've been living under a rock you know the guy is unhinged. I think he even told Sneako he would straight up kill him in the most serious way possible before they did this. What baffles me is that these other fighters just let it happen. Forrest obviously knew this was insane and was concerned, but if not for him Sneako definitely would have taken a whole lot more damage. If Forrest didn't walk away, which he probably did because he didn't want to watch a clown show, I'm sure he would have stepped in even earlier than he did. And yeah, Lombard is a complete psychopath. I commented elsewhere that he would just fuck up random people who wanted to simply train and learn, so we are together on that. Josh Barnett put him in his place and made him quit training at Paulson's since he had no chill. Strickland actually had an issue with Orlando Sanchez when they trained because Sanchez went too hard and tried to snap his elbow in half. I hear quite a few pro guys do this, too. I was hanging out with some guys from a local gym that Cerrone dropped in at for a training session, one of the guys said Cerrone fucked his knee up with a few leg kicks to the point where he couldn't walk for about 4 months. I guess Cerrone just threw everything he could into a few of those kicks during "light sparring". That one surprised me since Cerrone seems like a chill dude.
Sneako is the kind of influencer ready to get hurt for the attention... Dude has barely sparred in his life, can barely throw a punch and ask to spar directly one of the meanest combat sport athletes on the planet... He knew what he was doing and Sean gave him exactly what he wanted. A manchild trying to play violence with grown ass sociopath. I'm not sure this is the kind of publicity we really need or want in combat sports... But it is what we get.
Stop the bs literally nobody expected sean to go that hard. We knew he would go hard but not to that extent. So no,he didn't know what he was doing. Its never cool to abuse someone with less skill than you while sparring. Its just not cool.
To be honest Sneako earned my respect a bit. To take an ass beating like that and get humiliated and still smile about after while blood is coming from your nose is atleast admirable
Bingo. Anything for clicks. I suspect this is why "influencers" are universally despised (beyond their fanbase). This Sneako guy didn't step in the ring for any other reason than getting attention. That's the currency. Clicks. As for what he knew or didn't know, irrelevant. Stepping in the ring against Sean would get him notoriety, irrespective of the outcome. If you are going to whore yourself out for attention, this was a no lose proposition. Mission accomplished.
@@All_SportGG It wasn't even that hard. He was holding back. If you ask to spar Strickland its because you want to be pushed. The kid was happy in an interview and even said Sean didnt cross the line.
Sneako is a "hate magnet" influencer. Kind of like Dillon Dannis. They are attention obsessed narcissists that have some of the worst takes known to man, and most of their credibility comes from people with status getting angry at them. Instead of fixing themselves, they run with the fame. For example Sneako converted to Islam just because he was gaslighted into it, and now he thinks he's better than everyone else, and uses his religion as a shield kind of like how Steven Segal is a "Buddhist" to present himself as some spiritual sage. Sneako knew fully well Sean was gonna mess him up, but for him the attention was worth it. Now he's suffered a huge self esteem blow. He thought Sean was gonna give him the old "you agreed to fight me, you have my respect" but he doesn't know Sean has his own way of dealing with these things. People are gonna pat him on the back for this and he's fine with it.
Yep. I thought Sean was being an asshole, but Sneako is so toxic that it was kind of cathartic to see him get punched in the face by a champion of his own ideology. I wish they'd both chill t f out
@JesterJahima Sean's clearly doing some soul searching, but has his flaws. Sneako thinks he's doing soul searching and is mostly developing more flaws. They're both attention driven, and need to calm down, you're absolutely right.
Here we go, these the kinda replies I was hoping for. I used to watch Sneako, I used to think he was cocky, but I enjoyed him years ago before or during COVID. But goddamn, since then? Been waiting for this kinda moment. Ahhh, man, it’s like being hungry for so long and you finally get to eat! Just completely satisfied.
@@QuantumMecha I was never a Sneako fan so I can't really explain why people USED to like him. I do know those that really hate him the most are his old fans, as opposed to those of us like who were only recently exposed. So I'm guessing as he got popular he started to change.
@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues Yuuuup, you’re on the mark my man. It seems to be the weird unfortunate fate of people getting popular. Not everyone falls to this of course, but it’s a weird “Big head” phenomenon with people, I’m sure there’s a name for it, but damn… it hits some people hard as fuck, and I guess they don’t know how to deal with it? Just guessing, I suppose maybe you don’t get “checked” as often once you make it up the ladder
It usually goes that way with this channel. I am grateful that I already won the lottery by growing up in America, but even lotto winners have to pay taxes, and my tax was not being able to grown up in the same state as H2H's Gym. :(
Great breakdown! ✌️As a father, I’m always trying to do better than my parents, it’s hard to not fall into similar patterns of behavior! love you content as always! Cheers!
@3:00 It's because we know who Sneako is and what he's about. I feel like a lot of the MMA youtubers who have covered this (to your point) DON"T know who Sneako is and the wild $hit he says and does. Dude tried to clown Mikey Musumeci, which is why some people were glad to see him get roughed up. Nothing wrong with getting served a bit of humble pie. It's good for ya. Anyways I hope he learns from this and grows as a person. I'm sure a lot of MMA practitioners can attest that when you get your ass handed to you in the gym, it can lead to some great self-reflection.
I came to the comments to say exactly this. He’s a bad person, teaching kids how to be bad people en masse, and bullying people with his platform. We’re happy to see him get his due. I only wish it was Mikey Musumeci that he agreed to tangle with after what he said about Mikey’s personality.
@@Nethera6 EXACTLY!!! Not only this, but he's shit talked MMA/combat sports directly! Now I don't think Sean fully knew this and I agree with Mike's assessment of SEAN [although Sean's a bit meatheaded as well and has made pretty distasteful comments before] but man it's shocking to see how many people with commentary on this issue seem to miss the fact that Sneako quite literally IS a "bad person" to many.
sneako is no worse than sean lol sean is just more likable i agree wuth what sean says but not how he acts dude acts violent all the time that shit is fatherles behavoiour and detrimental to kids that see it being a man is not hurting people being a man is being in controll even though u want to hurt someone. its something i never learned from my dad and it fucked me up for years untill i got kids and understood. agression is for weak men its why people always say dont fear strong men fear the weak weak men hurt others weak men try to justify what they do to others becouse it happened to him a strong man would carry that hurt and protect others from it. i see the pain sean has but i think its stupid u guys think sneako isn't hurting either lol snako says stupids shit but is he really hurting people i don't thinks so and if he is sean is to and worse @@PeytonPearson
@@Nethera6 To me the worst part about Sneako and his friends like Fresh and Fit, are the fact that they are PUSSIES, they will call you to a fight then run away. I straight up cant respect that because thats not how it works in my country
@@Nethera6 nah It'll look really bad for Mikey as much as I want Sneako to get beaten up Mikey looked like an idiot in his response to Sneako Mikey was acting like a bully while calling out the bully, he didn't seem like a martial artist at all he's a world championship grappler who wants to schedule an MMA fight with a fucking streamer
I mean to be fair it was clear that he had a beef with influencers and that he didin’t respect Sneako which he admitted to and it was clear that no matter what Sneako did Strickland already had the intention to beat him up before the fight
I trained in MMA for 8 years and there was always a code of respect among our training partners. When someone who is not of your camp comes in off the street and doesn't want to train but immediately wants to spar, they basically want to see if they can beat you. Given that challenge on sneako's part and whatever trash he talked, he kind of made his own bed. You don't walk into a Veteran Champion UFC fighter's camp and assume you can hang with him. An Arrogant mistake, horribly disrespectful.
I can see why you’d think that but I’m guessing that you’re missing a lot of information here. Sneako did not talk ANY trash at all about Strickland, nor did he treat this like a “challenge” to Strickland. Say what you will about Sneako, but he was not arrogant in this scenario at all. He knew he was going to get destroyed by Strickland and said so multiple times, on camera, to his audience. It was definitely not meant to be a challenge to Strickland’s skills; more like Sneako is just a typical influencer who will do crazy things to get views, and sparring Strickland is obviously pretty crazy. There was no blatant disrespect involved though.
@@DJ-1Q84 So if you were an experienced climber hanging out at a rock climbing gym and someone came in off the street wanting to climb an expert-level wall, you would suit them up, tell them to go for it, and hope that they get kind of fucked up doing it? All because they didn’t sign up for classes first? Seems kind of sadistic, for reasons I don’t quite understand. It’s not like Sneako was talking shit and needed to be humbled. He seemed to show deference to Sean the whole time and knew that Sean could kill him if he wanted to. He also never acted like a tough guy or claimed he was good at fighting. So then what’s the point of “humbling” someone who hasn’t shown any signs of not being humble? All he was guilty of was being excited to spar with a champion, which I assume most people would be.
Tbf you don't know anything about Sneako, but he is an absolutely horrible human being. He has threatened another streamer by claiming to shoot that person's girlfriend on sight, he is very involved with the whole "sigma male" agenda as one of Andrew Tate's lackeys, and he has talked a lot of shit about Sean Strickland and other fighters before. To leave out the sexual harassment allegations, his involvement in crypto scams etc,...
@@blacksheep1045 I don't know what he's said about Sean or other fighters, any sexual harassment allegations, or his involvement in crypto scams, but he definitely is a Tate lackey who is fully on board the alpha male stuff, and he did publicly threaten another streamer. Why are you lying?
@hard2hurt it's makes no sense cause your low key the reason I won't turn out like sean we come from sameee background and alot alike but sean is still a horrible man you show what to be thanks icy mike ❤
Spot on Mike. I think what also adds to this is Sneako's persona online - he's big in that "alpha male", Andrew Tate, etc space and a bit of a bully himself. So he also has to keep up the act even more than the average person in a gym experiencing that level of violence for the first time. He has to say it was all good and convince himself it was fine otherwise he'd be going totally against his own views.
Good point. Rather than Sean's sparring etiquette I find it more telling what Sneako subjected himself to, despite being warned and knowing he would be in over his head. The ending point was most interesting where Mike discerns (and I agree) Sneako still wants approval from Sean for getting in there taking a beatdown. Plus, your point, he to walk the walk because of the persona he's built for himself.
The crazy thing is that we all go trhough a experience like this to some degree in our gym. And its the most important part of the process because your ego needs to fucking die, you need to understand that you are not that good, you are not the fastest, strongest and etc, Thank God i for some reason never had that Ego even though i had a lot of anger issues, but they would never pop out during training, even when i got beat, but instead that i can improve, you should never think about "damn im trash" but instead "damn im trash NOW but i will get better". But the Alpha Male and Manosphere is all about the EGo, YOU ARE THE PRIZE and those bs that for most men from most cultures that are not america are not a thing, and that is the true problem, kids now are getting raised by a false internet culture made by scammers, not by their actual dad and actual values.
I've watched Sneako for a long time, I wouldn't say he is big in that "alpha male, Andrew Tate" space. Definitely more on the right than the left politically, but he is very open that he used to be an absolute loser ... also he is made fun of by his stream chat all the time (not in the sense that they hate him, but it's part of the joke to make fun of Sneako, because everybody always dissed him).
This was great. Didn't expect a lesson in emotional trauma from the physical trauma coach. Really respectable that you can see the nuances in situations like this
I've never heard someone so succinctly describe the thinking of an abusive father and while I'm still negatively impacted by the abuse I experienced, this really helped contextualize how I've felt about the situation for the longest.
@@TravisUble whoah chill tf out dude and read what I said. I never implied Sean should be going that hard. I was just pointing out Mike seems to think Sneako is just your average 'influencer'
I never smashed on newbs,unfortunately I sparred a guy from work and took it easy on him later on he said something that made me realize he thought he was close to my level
@@krazed0451 This happens in real life all the time. Someone thinks they are good and the pro takes it easy on them, and in the mind of the loser "it was close so I must be pretty good".
It is at these times that I remember Justin Gaethje’s corner’s advice… “Take 10% off your shots, yer tryna kill the man… Hit him with some nice clean shots”
Dude I’m so glad i found your channel. I really enjoy your honest feedback to many of the things you analyze. And by honest I don’t mean you’re saying something others aren’t or that others are lying, I’m saying you sharing your honest opinions from your PoV disregarding whether others might approve or not. I just happen to agree with you on this one. On top of that, very useful content and tidbits for someone starting their self defense journey. Thanks 🙏🏼
Knowing about the situation with these two only briefly and surface-level... A great piece of content here and a fantastic striking hammer near the end that I never saw anyone bring up about this situation: Sean couldn't knock him out. Now, what's great about your content here is how you developed the video up to that point so well that it needed nothing but that short sentence to make it a nuclear bomb of a content. Well done, respect. Great video!
@@ggstanimir did you watch the video? in this video we're commenting on If I remember correctly, the influencer asks along the lines of "if I spar with you, will you do the podcast"
Totally agree. People are missing the point here, they think this is about some guy thinking he would win to a professional, but no, this is about daddy issues aligning from both sides.
Mike, I am impressed by your insights into human nature, your clear thinking and your wisdom. The Icy Mike in this video is quite the juxtaposition with the Icy Mike doing backyard cage fights against a dude that outweighed you by 80lbs.
Mike gets a look in his eye when he’s sparring or fighting that makes me feel like he’s seen some shit, totally different demeanor like he’s a predator
I am not sad, I am not glad. I don't care. He chose to spar with him knowing his reputation. If at any point he thought it was too hard he could say stop lets go lighter please. If he does not say that because he has a big ego, why should I care. I had a sparring partner who went too hard, kept telling him to go lighter, he never did, eventually I stopped sparring with him. Don't hate him, not gonna cry about it, did not enjoy it but I am glad I had experience. I am a more confident person now because I know if someone hits me hard I am not going to freak out, its like something I felt 100 times already.
idk if u never stept in a ring u shouldn't really have an opinion. i spar every week and sparring again'st noobs u never hurt them sean sparrs real fighters and fights with respect again'st people stronger than him lol so why not sneako@@ironwolfgaming9632
@@Dingusdankus sparring is NOT a fight - you are moving and working on something. Normally you talk with your opponent and say - after an exchange - what did you see - what am I leaving open. Good sparring is an exchange of ideas and not punching in the face.
@@Dingusdankus I quit sparring with just him because I do it very often and I don't want brain damage. Even some professional fighters do not want to spar hard all the time. It was a useful experience but you actually learn a bit more sometimes going lighter and slower so you can see what is happening and experiment a bit more.
Mayweather showed more class than Sean when sparring influencers. I never thought I would ever say that Mayweather showed class but here we are. Sean is a bully. We all have our own issues though.
I don’t really know anything about Strickland beyond his recent comments to the media, but if he is a bully, it’s just a bigger bully beating up a weaker bully. No pity.
Mayweather had a prior agreement with Logan and was literally paid. Logan didn't just walk into Mayweather's place of training and axt like he's on the level where a spar shoukd even happen.
@@thedust850 did that influencer just insist on sparring a grumpy Floyd, after Floyd got robbed of his title, after Roy Jones told him it's a stupid idea, and Floyd just called him a nobody to his face? Maybe you're autistic & can't read a room, but Sneako insisted. Know why? We're all talking about that goofy looking jackass now. Sneako got exactly what he wanted. Cry harder for him, poor guy 😭
When some clown comes to spar you and think they’re nearly as good as you, you better show ‘em that they aren’t or they WILL go away and say you’re ‘not that tough’. That’s the way it is. Sean had to stop that from happening.
Although I'm not a fan of Sneako I felt sad watching that. It's pretty much the exact same thing I went through in my old gym when I first started kickboxing. What you said about seeking the approval of people who abuse you is very true.
This is unfortunately why I have not been able to find a local gym to get back into the "game", because I know they are full of dudes that Spar, and then it turns into a full blown Fing Fight. they got such big huevos, but can't say what they really want to do from the get go; big imitation huevos is what they are.
After Sneako Weasled his way out of the Musemeci thing I don't feel bad for him at all. His a loud idiot spreading bullshit ideas to a demographic of children. Early stoppage in my opinion. He's made threats and tried to organize fights with streamers smaller than him. I'm glad someone showed him just how small a fish he is
Forrest is just a super nice dude. I'm sure he left to go train instead of watching it because he knew it was totally screwed up and the moment he heard hard shots landing he started making his way over realizing the dudes who could stop it like Shields weren't going to do anything until Sneako was sent to the spirit realm and there was no one else to save the poor kid. Make no mistake, if Forrest wasn't there Sneako would have been done for.
Absolutely hilarious. The level of arrogance or ignorance from Sneako was blatantly apparent. In Australia we'd say Sneako got his ambition mixed up with his abilities 😂
100% accurate take on the whole shebang by Mike. Spot on. I’ve got nothing to add. Not with my experience and education in therapy and counseling, not with my little bits of martial arts/fighting experience, not with over six decades of living, over two of them in the military. Just. Spot. On. Thanks, Mike!
It’s not the first time this happens to Sneako. He got the same treatment from Bradley Martin. I think there’s probably the element of the cameras being on too.
Sean literally counted down the minutes in the round and told him point blank that in the last minute or so he was going to get opened up on. He didn't "suddenly change pace without warning, making him the asshole."
I get that Strickland has a thing against influencers and you're right it's not a good thing. But from what little I know about Sneako is he's a bully who showed off his guns in veiled threats against another youtuber. So despite me being against mindless violence I have a hard time feeling sorry about Sneako considering he did that. And if I remember correctly Sneako stopped because he realized he wasn't the only one that can buy a gun.
Yeah, Sneako is the kind of coward who only goes for targets he thinks he can take and switches up fast when new information comes to light (like Charlie schooling Sneako about "clips" using his own guns as instruction aids, or when Sneako found out that "nerd" was Mikey Musumeci)
My reasoning behind being the "That's what you get!" Guy was the whole (Charlie "clips" debacle) where he flashed a firearm on stream as a means of intimidation. I've also been the guy who's been beat pretty good in a gym for being rude so I understand sometimes its part of the experience 🤙. Took those lefts better than Izzy which is wild 😂😂
Only because Sean didn't put anything on them. If he'd hit sneako with any kind if effort, they'd have to break out the smelling salts and put him in the recovery position.
Also Snake-o the cuck said many times that he can box Charlie but pussied out when Brandon Buckingham called him out, dissed him and challenged him to a fight. So yeah "That's what you get!"
Manny Pacquiao Spar with an influencer last week and was a gentleman that's how champions act when you're to good at something there's nothing to prove act like a Champion.
I’ve heard Sean say in interviews the fight time he went to a gym he got the sh*t beat out of him and it was the best day of his life. This is what he was doing
I've watched a couple of your videos now mike, and I gotta say you're one of my favorite channels now, simply because you're not just a meat head, you understand the psychology behind things, and you genuinely try to make every situation better for the people involved. That gets a sub from me. Have a nice day!
Sneako was pestering him...... Eventually a dog is going to stop growling and bite when it wants to be left alone.... Sean has made his feelings on influencers and sneako did pester him, so it's sort of a Darwin Award, annoy a man of violence and be surprised when he becomes violent. I don't think sneako will pester him any more,that was a clear "this is your warning spar seasion, after this go away" and yeah you could see sneako was regretting pestering him at for a podcast interview.....
1:17 I like your content Mike, but i think you failed here by not knowing who sneako is and missing the context on how often controversial he makes himself, which in turn may have caused Sean's response to be extra.
Sneako isn’t just controversial, he’s a fascist. I don’t think getting his ass beat in this context helped anyone, but I think of it along the lines of Richard Spencer getting sucker punched on TV.
@@hard2hurt Yes, first i thought it could be the more recent controversy, where he critiziced a bjj athlete and got called out then had to eat up all the backlash; However, knowing Strickland, it's more likely something to do with Sneako being a cuckold. Also thanks for replying.
I love this because you address so much more than the fight. These are concepts that we all should be considering as a society and how we function and progress.
You don’t go to Mike Tyson gym in his prime , people tell you don’t spar with him he’s going to knock you out / spar hard with you & you then proceed to get your grown ass in the ring thinking this is a game then you get what you get. Boxing / MMA isn’t a game people have literally died in the ring/octagon so I honestly respect Sean for not playing or inviting that goofy vlogging shit into this sport. I bet sneako won’t play around with this shit anymore and maybe even start taking classes and This is my opinion.
Key word sparring not fighting, a world champion can toy with a guy who's never trained with 1 hand , there's no need to fight him like he's about to get a belt
Sneako did start taking classes and Sean asked sneako to spar first in another video I saw. Can't stand sneako myself but I thought Sean took it too far. The three punches to the head at the end were definitely over the line in my opinion
I am going to skip over the part about sparing, that others here have already correctly addressed and ask: You do realize Sean INVITED him, right?!?!?!?!
It’s good to get humbled as a man. It sucks and if you’re a real man like you thought you were, you’ll learn from this and it should boost your pride knowing you actually got in there with a beast of a human.
This is just sad for the sport. Because at the end this is the kind of videos that make people think mixed martial artist are bunch of violent psychos.
I'm a little confused as to how to reconcile the fact that you said the level of intensity was fine and normal, yet also said that he was definitely trying to knock Sneako out.
Maybe it's because he didn't succeed in knocking him out. So it ended up being a fine level of intensity even if he was trying to knock him out. If he did knock him out then it wouldn't be fine.
@@arcrides6841 That doesn't make sense to me. You don't have to get knocked out to get brain damage, and intent does matter. Sneako was fortunate. and perhaps got a little lucky he didn't take a more damaging shot.
@@sonofjay817 I agree but perhaps that was his line of thinking when making the video. It's the only thing that I can think of to explain the contradiction.
His argument was that sparring hard is fine, but Sneako didn't know what he was in for. He thought he wanted this to feel tough but it was actually more than what he wanted or expected it to be. It's fine to go this hard if you know what you consent to.
i think he means that in the way the phrase is being used. some kid being a drunken idiot running their mouth at the mcdonald’s at 3am ”has it coming”, but you dont want to send him to the hospital just because of that.
Resect. That's what Sneako lacks for the mastery of Shaun, for the thousands of hours spent pursuing this perfection. That's what he had to be taught. Go to Shaun with respect, ask him for a one on one martial arts lesson - that will be a different animal altogether. Ask to spar and shoot the thing - that's disrespectful.
I think you’re right Mike…. I used to spar with a similar sort of dude (I knew him from when I was 3 yo). Not sure what happened in his house when we were young but when he smelled blood, his level of intensity increased, no matter what/when/were. I am pretty sure he justified it in much the same way as Strickland. My view is that he was always trying to prove himself and he thought this was a way he’d gain power. That guy ended up in prison for manslaughter. Personally I think real strength is your ability to support other people with your strength and power. Re, knocking someone out cold- That’s a real hard thing to do if it’s one on one, they have their hands up (and know even a little about defence) and are moving (unless there is a massive weight/power difference…. And you can’t run away). If they are trying to knock you out then that’s slightly different.
1st off - this is not a standard sparring match with a gym partner who you know and work regularly. It was a social media stunt and a diss to Sean. I'm glad he opened up on him and let him know what fighting is really about.
@@hard2hurthe fronts as an influencer. He approached him multiple times with a grin asking to spar. He was chasing clout and not respecting Sean's actual position.
@@hard2hurt No, but you don't walk into Gordon Ramsay's kitchen with a smug grin, video cameras and ball washers and challenge him to a cook off either. Not a hard concept.
@realranger6297 a cook off implies competition... sparring does not. Sneako was sparring. Sean was teasing, then he was fighting. He was never sparring.
Why do you think a full round would be ok? If that was an actual ufc fight it would have been stopped in like 10 seconds. Us ufc fans get mad at the ref every time we watch a fight that let's 3 or 4 unnecessary punches through. This was like 15 unnecessary punches.
@@jakeallstar1 Are you sure about that? Most of those punches were at least partially blocked, which is why Sneako was basically fine. No fighter wants a stoppage when he's ok, unless he's caught in a position he can't escape.
@@mason9807 Not even close to the same thing. Sean had a fight coming up, couldn't afford to be injured, and the guy did a sudden crank on his arm that hurt his elbow joint.
I see a bully in Sean. I’ve dealt with his type before. They’re unchained and unhinged in their personal lives. They don’t inspire people through virtue and honor, they try to intimidate through fear and violence. Idk Sneako or his values, but I agree that he 110% shouldn’t give a rat’s ass what Sean thinks b/c respect is reciprocal and Sean showed zero respect by beating the snot out of a smaller, less capable fighter. Sean had an opportunity to demonstrate true manliness, which would’ve meant acting as a constructive mentor, instead he chose ugliness. He can say it was to teach Sneako a lesson he can use, but I suspect that such an excuse is superfluous to his ultimate motivation-to crush someone smaller than himself and thereby revel in his own power. Guys like him are very likely to be wifebeaters.
I'm not a fighter but to Sean's defense as for why he couldn't knock Sneako out, they were using bigger gloves than you would in UFC weren't they? I'm sure that must affect how much damage you're taking or else there wouldn't be a reason to use bigger gloves in sparring or whatever.
lmao sean weighs at least 50 lbs more than sneako, 1 pound gloves arent gonna do much to mitigate damage in that situation, also plenty of people get dropped in sparring, it just further proves that sean really has pillow hands
Sean also just doesn't really knock dudes out period. He can hit hard and even drop dudes, but there's definitely a reason why he fights so defensively against pros.
@@terrycruise-zd5twThey still mitigate damage somehow even if only a little, also Sneako managed to block a lot of the punches so I don't really see your point that Sean is weak just because Sneako survived 10 seconds of Sean going hard. That's not really a fair critique imo, we all know that someone 50 lbs heavier who's a pro fighter could knock down Sneako if he really tried and didn't get pulled off after a short amount of time. Sneako was seconds away from falling if Forrest hadn't pulled him off imo
Great point about self respect. We hope that Sneako and others who are bullied learn to respect themselves and not seek the approval of abusive people.
Sneako didn't get bullied. He did the f around and find out thing, and he fully asked for it. You act like strickland walked up to him on the street and beat his ass for nothing. Sean could have blasted him from the jump but he didn't. He explained it on a video and even gives sneako some credit for taking what he did without going down. He basically took it as disrespect for that guy to think he could step in the ring. There's videos all over the internet of people being a bully and walking into a boxing gym challenging the trainer. They get their ass whipped and you all cheer them on but you're being a simp about this one? Weak
judging by everyone's reactions to the sparring, I'm convinced if they did a "Bully Beatdown" type of show these days people would make videos sympathizing with all the bullies getting their ass beat.
yeah fr, sneako literally didn't even get injured he just got smacked around a lil like he deserved to. But sensitive ass "grown-ups" like this hard2hurt acting like it was a murder attempt.
I like how straightforward Sean is. But he is not right in the head. I could see him beating someone to a pulp then eating their face off. Terrifying monster, but warriors and gladiators were all crazy.
Sean said the moment the clock was beeping "I want this to last longer." SO, while he congratulated Sneako for not dropping down, I don't think he was trying to knock him out. Sean tried to PUNISH him. Most people crumble/fold when he does that.
What about Mikey? What did Sneako say to about him? IMO Sneako was cyber bullying and back out when dude called him to fight MMA Think there's a couple more fighters he's mouthed about and I feel like Sneako finally got his issue.
I really still believe that Sean is the jerk here no matter how you spin it. Your upbringing does not need to define your outcome. You need to be better than that. He talks about being macho and rising about being soft, so why you holding onto your past anger bro? Box him normally with respect. He didn’t just hit him hard, he was actively trash talking and humiliating him.
I would never maliciously try to hurt someone knowing that I’m more skillful than the other one who i’m sparring with. If anything, I’m going to push that novice fighter to help make him better, but not do anything that would try to hurt the below average fighter who’s learning to box… especially when we’re not in the same weight class. Shout out to Sneako for hanging in there, but Strickling was a little bit wrong for his actions in the ring against a novice. *And if you look at the footage between Alex Bahedah & Strickland sparring, Strickland did not do anything of the sort with Alex as he did with Sneako, because he knew Alex would knock him out if he tried to hurt him.
calling Sneako a nerd is a disrespect to all Nerds.
Looked like a fool but he took some pretty good shots and didn't go down. That isn't what nerds do. Your ass would have been on the deck so stop talking trash
Yeah, aren't nerds supposed to be smart?
@@Bruva_Ayamhyt exactly
@@Bruva_Ayamhyt Being a nerd doesn't mean you're smart
@@bofasofa9399 Then how would you define it?
Sean has almost verbatim said: 'The first day I started training I got the absolute shit beaten out of me, and I've never been so happy in my life,' or something to that effect.
I think that alone gives us the insight we need into the situation.
2 questions:
1. Why did he got the shit beaten out of him the first day training, i don't think that is something that should happen?
2. Why would he be happy about that?
@@ashuranero5721Sean never had the best upbringing so it's kinda understandable that he would've been an asshole even as a child but I think the reason he felt so happy about having the shit beat out of him is because it's the first time he's felt a sense of belonging, a play to release his pain and also being humbled.
@@michaellovinon3467 Why would he feel a sense of belonging when someone beats the shit out of you? And why would one want to be humled? And how is it a release of pain when someone beats you up, isn't that the opposite: receiving pain?
@@ashuranero5721 there is a sense of relief that's hard to explain when you get beaten up, when I joined my first MMA gym I had something similar.
@@michaellovinon3467 Are you not sure that it's just masochism?
Strickland training Sneako the way Piccolo trained Gohan lol
He even had the anime dialogue going
Sneako just needs to learn to dodge
@@keegswl5119 YELLING DODGE IS MORE DISTRACTING
💀💀💀
Wasn't piccolo a bad guy that became good ? Kinda like Sean?😂
The difference is Piccolo never told Gohan it was "sparing", he said he was going to get Trained.
BIG difference.
This is the reason I love watching your content Mike.
You're a coach 90% of the time but when things get real you know when and how to talk real.
Thats what a man should be
I have been there also, I used to train and spar with boxers now I do not do it. . and sometimes I got beat up. . . but I did not care. . . boxing teaches humility... because at the end everyone got hurt on a small or large way
being a good coach/martial artist requires you to be able to analize situations/flights and search for a way to improve ,works for real life not just martial arts altough for me martial arts is a way of life .
The abusive father thing is on point.
It makes me think back to my football coach, he was ridiculously mean, on the edge of abuse, and everyone on the team wanted him to love us.
Convexly, my hockey coach actually cared about us, and he spent a lot of time and effort making sure we understood why we were doing everything we did.
In the end, I took both of those lessons into fatherhood and use my hockey coach’s methods for training my children, even discipline comes with an explanation as to the why and how.
I still love playing hockey, because of the good role model of coach Kenny.
Shoutout coach Kenny 💯
Bro guys named kenny are always amazing, got a bud named kenny
Somehow I feel like Sean Strickland was sincere when he raised Sneako's hand and gave him the compliment that he didn't fall down.
Why? He's basically a Nazi.
I think Sneako earned a little respect from him.
@@BWater-yq3jx I know guys like Sean. Sneako earned massive respect. Sean only respects violence and heart.
@@TravisUble hehe snowflake
It's either that, or a tactic of abuse 🤷
Like the guy who cracks his missos then tells her to keep her chin up and gives her a kiss.
I'm not well versed with either character, so I'm not to say.
Just explained abusive fathers better than some psychologists
Yea... Kinda wild.
which psycologists?
Sean told Forrest at the beginning that he promised not to punch him in the body. Sneako heard him say that, he turtled up with boxing gloves on, and left his body wide open.
If Sean really wanted to KO him he could have ripped a liver shot, and it would've been done.
100%
Yup liver shot sneako down and out 😂
@@woodardkingsbury1648
You ever seen someone turtle up do you even know where the liver is if you think the right elbow can't cover it without dropping a guard think again.
It's not really that easy with those gloves it's why they're made so contest could be longer.
That's what I keep trying to tell these ignorant people who say Sean should have hit him in the body to go easy on him. Hitting the body is *not* going easy on someone...
I was one of those, who smiled when Snek got tread on. But it's not because of sadism, nor because I was jealous. I smiled because an arrogant person met reality in a way that cannot be dodged by lying to yourself or making excuses. It may hurt a bit, but the most it hurts the ego, and sometimes it is good.
I used to do "ninjutsu" when I was 16. My uncle did kickboxing on the European level. I thought I was tough as titanium nails, even though I had never sparred because "our style was too dangerous". After 20min in the ring with him going light on me I didn't feel tough anymore. He congratulated me for not quitting, after which we got some ice for my face and nose. I dropped bulshido and went to boxing and HEMA, then joined the military a few years later.
One of my best memories.
Thank you. I get sick of sneako slandering and bullying
He got his comeuppance. Partially
I didn't know who Sneeko was. Just watched like 2 videos and immediately lost all respect for him. People who get embarrassed like this don't necessarily find humility though. I knew a guy who would get beat up at bars all the time and still start shit. He just never cared enough about himself for self-preservation. Some people just never hit bottom. Most people just keep telling themselves they have something to offer in some other arena. Which is true but being able to punch good feels like it trumps a lot of other things when you get punched.
There's a difference between gently enlightening a delusional child and what happens with Strickland's sparring "partners". He's deliberately knocked people out when they were supposed to be going light. He has a reputation for it. This IS sadism.
Strickland doesn't do this to help. He does it for the same reason most bullies do it, because it strokes their ego. Strickland doesn't give a fuck what Sneako thinks, nor does he care about the damage he does to the people that spar with him. He DOES care about when his peers, the true professional fighters, go hard on him however. He'll be soft as a kitten when sparring someone who can fight back and maybe actually hurt him, and he'll whine and bitch when one of these guys goes a little too hard.
All earmarks of a classic bully, and it's no suprise that Strickland's father was physically and psychologically abusive. It's clear as day, even without Strickland going on record about it.
@@jltg34 Very good point. You put this really well, and made me think about it. There is a difference, there really is.
Now, I actually feel bad for the Sneako-Strickland case. You're right. I'll leave my comment up, so yours will stay up. Thank you 🙏🏻
@@TheTurtlePenguin Thanks. You seem like a well adjusted and thoughtful individual.
Sneako asks people that he thinks he can beat up to fight ALL THE TIME and when they say ok he finds a way to back out or change the subject…Karma caught up to Sneako period.
Who is a person he asked to fight?
@@hard2hurthe threatened to beat up and shoot MoistCritical, threatened violence against multiple female TH-camrs, thats just off the top of my head, I'm sure if I did research I could find more examples. All while he's consistently ducking a fight challenge from Brandon Buckingham, who Sneako tried to cancel with false SA allegations.
Sean looks pissed off even though he was the one laying the beatdown 🤣
He is pissed off. Not with Sneako.
@@hard2hurt yokay !
Sean always looks pissed off 🤣
I think he's just mad at the world. I'll just stay out of his way.
He does that every fight, lol
I like that he got beat not because I want him to be hurt but because I think he’s a bit of a bully and a wimp at the same time and just acts tough on camera.
Sean is also a bully
Smells like an inferiority complex because Sneako might be more intelligent and more handsome than you. Maybe even better at fighting? Hmmm
@@aaronjackson2720 literally everyone including Sneako knew that though. Sean isn't claiming to be something else. He repeatedly says he is just a psycho who happened to make it big in the UFC.
@@andusz5518 ok?
He is tougher than most it seems. Most people wouldn't go into the ring with Sean Strickland.
Of course Sneacko knew something like that was going to happen, but maybe he didn't fully understand what it really meant. That's the kind of thing that you think you know what it's like, but you only really understand it after you experience it.
Bingo.
I teach armored combat - people think they can pick up a weapon and just hit you like swinging a baseball bat. Then you literally can hit them at will - combat is a skill and you need training or a lot of luck.
Everyone is all offended for Sneako but he liked it. He even said later that Sean didnt cross the line. Its like fools asking Chuck Lidell to punch their arm or leg kick them.
@@dis4980even if he thought it was too far, manhood demands he say it wasn’t to far.
@TheHakeReport Hello hake, I love show
Sean has said in an interview that when he first sparred and got beaten up, he loved it and felt the most alive ever until then.
My MMA coaches boxing coach died in a drive by the day of my belt test. Now I think I know why
Sean wanted to point out to the idiots on the internet that you don't just challenge a fucking ufc champion and try to spar him like he is some nobody from the streets.
Relax, You’re showing your insecurities
@@immarealpithuh?
Exactly. Sean PROBABLY felt disrespected that an internet troll could think about hanging with him. Sneako needed a little tuning and Sean obliged.
He is not the the ufc champion. DDP is.
Except Sean asked him
Watch the whole original video folks. Sneako was told by 5 different people Sean was going to blast him. He (Sneako) said aloud...fuck, this is going to hurt. It was 100% understood what was going to happen. There was no misconception. Sean was going to hit him in the face after toying with him until he fell. As far as Sean trying to knock him out...he never tapped the body to drop the hands. That was the kindness Sean extended.
but in this video we see right before the sparring, he asks Sean if he'd do his podcast if they spar
it seems he did the sparring with the hopes of interviewing Sean
He may have had 5 people tell him what would happen, but he's had a lifetime of shonen anime telling him tough guys who stick through the beating get respect.
he wanted the views HES JOB RELIES ON VIEWS.not at all he m@kes 1000pm
Trust me my guy. Sneako didn’t understand! Now he does. But not before. Right or wrong?? Don’t know! But I do know that.
Icy touched on this in the video: Even though people told him, he didn't expect it to happen like this because it's not something he's used to.
Sean also said in interviews the first day in walked into a gym he thought he was tough shit and they fucked him up bad. This is the culture he was raised in. He loved it.
I remember when we used to hate when people like Hector Lombard, who did this in the gym. Like, Josh Barnett and Hector had that legendary sparring session where coach, Eric Paulson just let Josh manhandle him for 30m. It all started because Hector was such a gym bully. Now we applaud it. Weird.
"we", who are we?.. As for me, I did not applaud a single second of this shit. (Of course, referring to the original video, not the Mike's breakdown, which I thought came to a brilliant ending.)
While I somewhat agree this was a bit rough, a fully grown adult man challenged the former champ knowing exactly who he is and what he is all about and at the very least knew he would get his ass kicked (he didn't know how bad, you never do until you experience it). That is way different than Lombard fucking up his training partners who were there to learn and grow. He didn't come in for a boxing lesson with Sean and then Sean just randomly started beating on him. Lombard was different because people were mutually there to learn and he would just snap your knee in half for fun.
@@mortekaieve4729 I agree Sneako is a grown adult and can make his own decisions but Sean should have at least went to the body and/or just rag dolled him. Going to the head so much could have given the young man more brain damage. Look at the Merab vs. fan video and how he handled it.
And Hector wasn’t just a gym bully to other teammates, he was doing this at a time when regular students could train with the public, and Hector would just pummel them. Ofc this led to them never returning and him being booted from many gyms. You remember Mike Pierce? He said ex UFC WW Rick Story would do this too. At one point really injuring someone. You can probably find the video/audio on here.
But all in all I think we’re on the same page here. 👌
@@MMAGamblingTips Yeah, 100% if I were world champ material I wouldn't even entertain something like this and think Strickland should have gone easier, but unless you've been living under a rock you know the guy is unhinged. I think he even told Sneako he would straight up kill him in the most serious way possible before they did this. What baffles me is that these other fighters just let it happen. Forrest obviously knew this was insane and was concerned, but if not for him Sneako definitely would have taken a whole lot more damage. If Forrest didn't walk away, which he probably did because he didn't want to watch a clown show, I'm sure he would have stepped in even earlier than he did.
And yeah, Lombard is a complete psychopath. I commented elsewhere that he would just fuck up random people who wanted to simply train and learn, so we are together on that. Josh Barnett put him in his place and made him quit training at Paulson's since he had no chill. Strickland actually had an issue with Orlando Sanchez when they trained because Sanchez went too hard and tried to snap his elbow in half. I hear quite a few pro guys do this, too. I was hanging out with some guys from a local gym that Cerrone dropped in at for a training session, one of the guys said Cerrone fucked his knee up with a few leg kicks to the point where he couldn't walk for about 4 months. I guess Cerrone just threw everything he could into a few of those kicks during "light sparring". That one surprised me since Cerrone seems like a chill dude.
@@MMAGamblingTips The body would have been much, much worse...
I have no idea how this popped up on my feed, but every young man needs to watch this! Very insightful vid.
Sneako is the kind of influencer ready to get hurt for the attention... Dude has barely sparred in his life, can barely throw a punch and ask to spar directly one of the meanest combat sport athletes on the planet... He knew what he was doing and Sean gave him exactly what he wanted.
A manchild trying to play violence with grown ass sociopath.
I'm not sure this is the kind of publicity we really need or want in combat sports... But it is what we get.
Stop the bs literally nobody expected sean to go that hard. We knew he would go hard but not to that extent. So no,he didn't know what he was doing. Its never cool to abuse someone with less skill than you while sparring. Its just not cool.
To be honest Sneako earned my respect a bit. To take an ass beating like that and get humiliated and still smile about after while blood is coming from your nose is atleast admirable
Bingo. Anything for clicks.
I suspect this is why "influencers" are universally despised (beyond their fanbase). This Sneako guy didn't step in the ring for any other reason than getting attention. That's the currency. Clicks. As for what he knew or didn't know, irrelevant. Stepping in the ring against Sean would get him notoriety, irrespective of the outcome. If you are going to whore yourself out for attention, this was a no lose proposition.
Mission accomplished.
Yea it's all content for both of them. It's like a stunt in Jack ass imo.
@@All_SportGG It wasn't even that hard. He was holding back. If you ask to spar Strickland its because you want to be pushed. The kid was happy in an interview and even said Sean didnt cross the line.
Sneako is a "hate magnet" influencer. Kind of like Dillon Dannis. They are attention obsessed narcissists that have some of the worst takes known to man, and most of their credibility comes from people with status getting angry at them. Instead of fixing themselves, they run with the fame. For example Sneako converted to Islam just because he was gaslighted into it, and now he thinks he's better than everyone else, and uses his religion as a shield kind of like how Steven Segal is a "Buddhist" to present himself as some spiritual sage.
Sneako knew fully well Sean was gonna mess him up, but for him the attention was worth it. Now he's suffered a huge self esteem blow. He thought Sean was gonna give him the old "you agreed to fight me, you have my respect" but he doesn't know Sean has his own way of dealing with these things. People are gonna pat him on the back for this and he's fine with it.
Yep. I thought Sean was being an asshole, but Sneako is so toxic that it was kind of cathartic to see him get punched in the face by a champion of his own ideology. I wish they'd both chill t f out
@JesterJahima Sean's clearly doing some soul searching, but has his flaws. Sneako thinks he's doing soul searching and is mostly developing more flaws. They're both attention driven, and need to calm down, you're absolutely right.
Here we go, these the kinda replies I was hoping for. I used to watch Sneako, I used to think he was cocky, but I enjoyed him years ago before or during COVID.
But goddamn, since then? Been waiting for this kinda moment. Ahhh, man, it’s like being hungry for so long and you finally get to eat! Just completely satisfied.
@@QuantumMecha I was never a Sneako fan so I can't really explain why people USED to like him. I do know those that really hate him the most are his old fans, as opposed to those of us like who were only recently exposed. So I'm guessing as he got popular he started to change.
@@ProtomanButCallMeBlues Yuuuup, you’re on the mark my man. It seems to be the weird unfortunate fate of people getting popular. Not everyone falls to this of course, but it’s a weird “Big head” phenomenon with people, I’m sure there’s a name for it, but damn… it hits some people hard as fuck, and I guess they don’t know how to deal with it? Just guessing, I suppose maybe you don’t get “checked” as often once you make it up the ladder
This is the best review of what happened that's been posted.
Duh.
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@@hard2hurtwhat do you think needs to happen for Sean to change and grow as a person?
It usually goes that way with this channel.
I am grateful that I already won the lottery by growing up in America, but even lotto winners have to pay taxes, and my tax was not being able to grown up in the same state as H2H's Gym.
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Better than anything I was expecting to see on this whole situation. Thank you Mike.
Great breakdown! ✌️As a father, I’m always trying to do better than my parents, it’s hard to not fall into similar patterns of behavior! love you content as always! Cheers!
My only question is "How many towels do they have around the edges of this ring?"
They were coming in from everywhere.
ikr 😄🤣
They bought the whole Bed, Bath and beyond with the amount of towels they threw.
@3:00 It's because we know who Sneako is and what he's about. I feel like a lot of the MMA youtubers who have covered this (to your point) DON"T know who Sneako is and the wild $hit he says and does. Dude tried to clown Mikey Musumeci, which is why some people were glad to see him get roughed up. Nothing wrong with getting served a bit of humble pie. It's good for ya. Anyways I hope he learns from this and grows as a person. I'm sure a lot of MMA practitioners can attest that when you get your ass handed to you in the gym, it can lead to some great self-reflection.
I came to the comments to say exactly this. He’s a bad person, teaching kids how to be bad people en masse, and bullying people with his platform. We’re happy to see him get his due. I only wish it was Mikey Musumeci that he agreed to tangle with after what he said about Mikey’s personality.
@@Nethera6 EXACTLY!!! Not only this, but he's shit talked MMA/combat sports directly! Now I don't think Sean fully knew this and I agree with Mike's assessment of SEAN [although Sean's a bit meatheaded as well and has made pretty distasteful comments before] but man it's shocking to see how many people with commentary on this issue seem to miss the fact that Sneako quite literally IS a "bad person" to many.
sneako is no worse than sean lol sean is just more likable i agree wuth what sean says but not how he acts dude acts violent all the time that shit is fatherles behavoiour and detrimental to kids that see it being a man is not hurting people being a man is being in controll even though u want to hurt someone. its something i never learned from my dad and it fucked me up for years untill i got kids and understood. agression is for weak men its why people always say dont fear strong men fear the weak weak men hurt others weak men try to justify what they do to others becouse it happened to him a strong man would carry that hurt and protect others from it. i see the pain sean has but i think its stupid u guys think sneako isn't hurting either lol snako says stupids shit but is he really hurting people i don't thinks so and if he is sean is to and worse @@PeytonPearson
@@Nethera6 To me the worst part about Sneako and his friends like Fresh and Fit, are the fact that they are PUSSIES, they will call you to a fight then run away.
I straight up cant respect that because thats not how it works in my country
@@Nethera6 nah It'll look really bad for Mikey
as much as I want Sneako to get beaten up
Mikey looked like an idiot in his response to Sneako
Mikey was acting like a bully while calling out the bully, he didn't seem like a martial artist at all
he's a world championship grappler who wants to schedule an MMA fight with a fucking streamer
I mean to be fair it was clear that he had a beef with influencers and that he didin’t respect Sneako which he admitted to and it was clear that no matter what Sneako did Strickland already had the intention to beat him up before the fight
but why would Forrest walk away if he thought the sparring was going fine
if Forrest knew Sean dislikes influencers, then he should've stayed
I trained in MMA for 8 years and there was always a code of respect among our training partners. When someone who is not of your camp comes in off the street and doesn't want to train but immediately wants to spar, they basically want to see if they can beat you. Given that challenge on sneako's part and whatever trash he talked, he kind of made his own bed. You don't walk into a Veteran Champion UFC fighter's camp and assume you can hang with him. An Arrogant mistake, horribly disrespectful.
I can see why you’d think that but I’m guessing that you’re missing a lot of information here. Sneako did not talk ANY trash at all about Strickland, nor did he treat this like a “challenge” to Strickland. Say what you will about Sneako, but he was not arrogant in this scenario at all. He knew he was going to get destroyed by Strickland and said so multiple times, on camera, to his audience. It was definitely not meant to be a challenge to Strickland’s skills; more like Sneako is just a typical influencer who will do crazy things to get views, and sparring Strickland is obviously pretty crazy. There was no blatant disrespect involved though.
@@DJ-1Q84 So if you were an experienced climber hanging out at a rock climbing gym and someone came in off the street wanting to climb an expert-level wall, you would suit them up, tell them to go for it, and hope that they get kind of fucked up doing it? All because they didn’t sign up for classes first? Seems kind of sadistic, for reasons I don’t quite understand. It’s not like Sneako was talking shit and needed to be humbled. He seemed to show deference to Sean the whole time and knew that Sean could kill him if he wanted to. He also never acted like a tough guy or claimed he was good at fighting. So then what’s the point of “humbling” someone who hasn’t shown any signs of not being humble? All he was guilty of was being excited to spar with a champion, which I assume most people would be.
@@DJ-1Q84You just kind of fell off intellectually there. That didn't respond to any of his points.
Sean asked sneako to spar
My first night at team Irish I was paired with a pro ,and learned very quickly I had a lot to learn and made me want to be there even more
this is one of the most insightful videos. the psychology that goes into combat, combat sports, sports, sparring, etc. this was on point.
Tbf you don't know anything about Sneako, but he is an absolutely horrible human being. He has threatened another streamer by claiming to shoot that person's girlfriend on sight, he is very involved with the whole "sigma male" agenda as one of Andrew Tate's lackeys, and he has talked a lot of shit about Sean Strickland and other fighters before. To leave out the sexual harassment allegations, his involvement in crypto scams etc,...
What shit did he say about Sean Strickland?
lmaoo none of this is true
You don’t know anything about him either. I’m not a fan of him, but I know all that is bullshit
What is the point of lying so much?
@@blacksheep1045 I don't know what he's said about Sean or other fighters, any sexual harassment allegations, or his involvement in crypto scams, but he definitely is a Tate lackey who is fully on board the alpha male stuff, and he did publicly threaten another streamer. Why are you lying?
Icy Mike is the closest thing to a father I've ever had.
I'm still figuring it out.
that's hella sad
You know Icy Mike and Icicle Michael, now get ready for Daddy Mikey
Lol Jesus
@hard2hurt it's makes no sense cause your low key the reason I won't turn out like sean we come from sameee background and alot alike but sean is still a horrible man you show what to be thanks icy mike ❤
Spot on Mike. I think what also adds to this is Sneako's persona online - he's big in that "alpha male", Andrew Tate, etc space and a bit of a bully himself. So he also has to keep up the act even more than the average person in a gym experiencing that level of violence for the first time. He has to say it was all good and convince himself it was fine otherwise he'd be going totally against his own views.
Good point. Rather than Sean's sparring etiquette I find it more telling what Sneako subjected himself to, despite being warned and knowing he would be in over his head.
The ending point was most interesting where Mike discerns (and I agree) Sneako still wants approval from Sean for getting in there taking a beatdown. Plus, your point, he to walk the walk because of the persona he's built for himself.
The crazy thing is that we all go trhough a experience like this to some degree in our gym.
And its the most important part of the process because your ego needs to fucking die, you need to understand that you are not that good, you are not the fastest, strongest and etc, Thank God i for some reason never had that Ego even though i had a lot of anger issues, but they would never pop out during training, even when i got beat, but instead that i can improve, you should never think about "damn im trash" but instead "damn im trash NOW but i will get better".
But the Alpha Male and Manosphere is all about the EGo, YOU ARE THE PRIZE and those bs that for most men from most cultures that are not america are not a thing, and that is the true problem, kids now are getting raised by a false internet culture made by scammers, not by their actual dad and actual values.
I've watched Sneako for a long time, I wouldn't say he is big in that "alpha male, Andrew Tate" space. Definitely more on the right than the left politically, but he is very open that he used to be an absolute loser ... also he is made fun of by his stream chat all the time (not in the sense that they hate him, but it's part of the joke to make fun of Sneako, because everybody always dissed him).
"alpha male" is a weird way to say "he encourages misogyny".
I put in quotations for a reason mate, it’s pretty easy to infer I think he's a sexist moron with awful and inaccurate "advice" for young men.
This was great. Didn't expect a lesson in emotional trauma from the physical trauma coach. Really respectable that you can see the nuances in situations like this
I've never heard someone so succinctly describe the thinking of an abusive father and while I'm still negatively impacted by the abuse I experienced, this really helped contextualize how I've felt about the situation for the longest.
Nice word choice,........"succinctly"
Well done,.. fuckin love it
I don't think you're fully familiar with Sneako's body of work, Mike.
@@TravisUble whoah chill tf out dude and read what I said. I never implied Sean should be going that hard. I was just pointing out Mike seems to think Sneako is just your average 'influencer'
I know I am not, but how does that change the corrections he's made?
😂 Bro, hate somebody he doesn't personally know so much. He actually wants them to get hurt in real life. What a complete f****** loser people are.
@@MR-nl8xrtrust me it changes everything.
It makes no difference
I never smashed on newbs,unfortunately I sparred a guy from work and took it easy on him later on he said something that made me realize he thought he was close to my level
Do a rematch and turn it up loll
This is why I don't hold back
@@Marconel100 You don't hold back because you have a fragile ego.
Why do you care about his opinion? He's just some puny average joe
@@krazed0451 This happens in real life all the time. Someone thinks they are good and the pro takes it easy on them, and in the mind of the loser "it was close so I must be pretty good".
It is at these times that I remember Justin Gaethje’s corner’s advice… “Take 10% off your shots, yer tryna kill the man… Hit him with some nice clean shots”
Pretry much how Strickland fights in the octogon. Although, i dont think he hits all that hard compared to guys like Dricus or Robert Whittaker.
Dude I’m so glad i found your channel. I really enjoy your honest feedback to many of the things you analyze. And by honest I don’t mean you’re saying something others aren’t or that others are lying, I’m saying you sharing your honest opinions from your PoV disregarding whether others might approve or not. I just happen to agree with you on this one. On top of that, very useful content and tidbits for someone starting their self defense journey. Thanks 🙏🏼
Knowing about the situation with these two only briefly and surface-level... A great piece of content here and a fantastic striking hammer near the end that I never saw anyone bring up about this situation: Sean couldn't knock him out. Now, what's great about your content here is how you developed the video up to that point so well that it needed nothing but that short sentence to make it a nuclear bomb of a content. Well done, respect. Great video!
Influencers do d/umb stuff for views all the time, this was not any different
Sean asked him to spar... what would you do? Say no and look like a bitch?
And people KEEP giving it more and more attention making the next asshat do this over and over and over. Never ending cycle of stupidity.
it seems the influencer wanted Strickland to do his podcast if he sparred with Sean
so it seems the goal was to have him on his podcast for views
@@justanobody0 Actually Sean asked Sneako for a spar the previous day.
@@ggstanimir did you watch the video? in this video we're commenting on
If I remember correctly, the influencer asks along the lines of "if I spar with you, will you do the podcast"
As a licensed therapist, I can say you are probably spot on with this interpretation. Its "daddy issues", and likely from both of them.
Totally agree. People are missing the point here, they think this is about some guy thinking he would win to a professional, but no, this is about daddy issues aligning from both sides.
You are a joke of a therapist, hope you sleep well at night knowing you are ruining people's lives.
Mike, I am impressed by your insights into human nature, your clear thinking and your wisdom.
The Icy Mike in this video is quite the juxtaposition with the Icy Mike doing backyard cage fights against a dude that outweighed you by 80lbs.
Mike gets a look in his eye when he’s sparring or fighting that makes me feel like he’s seen some shit, totally different demeanor like he’s a predator
@@Zabrixis1919 He was a cop on the east coast, I'm sure he's seen many things he would like to forget.
Real
This analysis went deeper than most sermons, well done & wisely spoken sir🍻
Love the way you are aproaching this.
I am not sad, I am not glad. I don't care. He chose to spar with him knowing his reputation. If at any point he thought it was too hard he could say stop lets go lighter please. If he does not say that because he has a big ego, why should I care. I had a sparring partner who went too hard, kept telling him to go lighter, he never did, eventually I stopped sparring with him. Don't hate him, not gonna cry about it, did not enjoy it but I am glad I had experience. I am a more confident person now because I know if someone hits me hard I am not going to freak out, its like something I felt 100 times already.
You sign the release - it's on you.
idk if u never stept in a ring u shouldn't really have an opinion. i spar every week and sparring again'st noobs u never hurt them sean sparrs real fighters and fights with respect again'st people stronger than him lol so why not sneako@@ironwolfgaming9632
@@Dingusdankusi guess he did that because he doesn't want either of them to get injured or ko'd
@@Dingusdankus sparring is NOT a fight - you are moving and working on something. Normally you talk with your opponent and say - after an exchange - what did you see - what am I leaving open. Good sparring is an exchange of ideas and not punching in the face.
@@Dingusdankus I quit sparring with just him because I do it very often and I don't want brain damage. Even some professional fighters do not want to spar hard all the time. It was a useful experience but you actually learn a bit more sometimes going lighter and slower so you can see what is happening and experiment a bit more.
Mayweather showed more class than Sean when sparring influencers. I never thought I would ever say that Mayweather showed class but here we are. Sean is a bully. We all have our own issues though.
I don’t really know anything about Strickland beyond his recent comments to the media, but if he is a bully, it’s just a bigger bully beating up a weaker bully. No pity.
Mayweather had a prior agreement with Logan and was literally paid.
Logan didn't just walk into Mayweather's place of training and axt like he's on the level where a spar shoukd even happen.
@@rocketpigrecords3719 i was not referring to the Logan Paul fight. Mayweather recently sparred an influencer.
@@thedust850 did that influencer just insist on sparring a grumpy Floyd, after Floyd got robbed of his title, after Roy Jones told him it's a stupid idea, and Floyd just called him a nobody to his face?
Maybe you're autistic & can't read a room, but Sneako insisted.
Know why? We're all talking about that goofy looking jackass now. Sneako got exactly what he wanted.
Cry harder for him, poor guy 😭
When some clown comes to spar you and think they’re nearly as good as you, you better show ‘em that they aren’t or they WILL go away and say you’re ‘not that tough’. That’s the way it is. Sean had to stop that from happening.
I don't think Sneako helped himself out when he made fun of Mikey Musameci either.
Be fr, sean would make fun of him too
@@caleblee6734 That's...fair, aha.
Mikey is the nicest dude ever too.
@@caleblee6734yes, but he would still know that Mikey is real. Sneako’s dumbass is always running his mouth.
This was beautifully said. Thank you ❤
Yo man this is incredible. Thank you.
Although I'm not a fan of Sneako I felt sad watching that. It's pretty much the exact same thing I went through in my old gym when I first started kickboxing. What you said about seeking the approval of people who abuse you is very true.
I could not agree more. I despise what Sneako preaches and does through his platform, but I empathise with him due to what I experienced.
If u know sneako history . U feel happy when he got beat up . Sneako trying to shot another youtuber . U can find on youtube .
This is unfortunately why I have not been able to find a local gym to get back into the "game", because I know they are full of dudes that Spar, and then it turns into a full blown Fing Fight.
they got such big huevos, but can't say what they really want to do from the get go; big imitation huevos is what they are.
After Sneako Weasled his way out of the Musemeci thing I don't feel bad for him at all. His a loud idiot spreading bullshit ideas to a demographic of children. Early stoppage in my opinion. He's made threats and tried to organize fights with streamers smaller than him. I'm glad someone showed him just how small a fish he is
Icy Mike dropping some Hegelian philosophy at the end
Forrest is just a super nice dude. I'm sure he left to go train instead of watching it because he knew it was totally screwed up and the moment he heard hard shots landing he started making his way over realizing the dudes who could stop it like Shields weren't going to do anything until Sneako was sent to the spirit realm and there was no one else to save the poor kid. Make no mistake, if Forrest wasn't there Sneako would have been done for.
Absolutely hilarious. The level of arrogance or ignorance from Sneako was blatantly apparent. In Australia we'd say Sneako got his ambition mixed up with his abilities 😂
100% accurate take on the whole shebang by Mike. Spot on. I’ve got nothing to add. Not with my experience and education in therapy and counseling, not with my little bits of martial arts/fighting experience, not with over six decades of living, over two of them in the military. Just. Spot. On. Thanks, Mike!
The last 10:00 monologue 👏
Yoo FightTips Im a Big fan
Icy mike has seen or lived some shit to understand that so clearly
They will always keep some control over you... one way or another.
@@hard2hurt a-fucking-men
It’s not the first time this happens to Sneako. He got the same treatment from Bradley Martin. I think there’s probably the element of the cameras being on too.
Sean literally counted down the minutes in the round and told him point blank that in the last minute or so he was going to get opened up on.
He didn't "suddenly change pace without warning, making him the asshole."
Exactly 💯. Icy mike tried to create a couple false dilemmas in this video.
I get that Strickland has a thing against influencers and you're right it's not a good thing. But from what little I know about Sneako is he's a bully who showed off his guns in veiled threats against another youtuber. So despite me being against mindless violence I have a hard time feeling sorry about Sneako considering he did that. And if I remember correctly Sneako stopped because he realized he wasn't the only one that can buy a gun.
Yeah, Sneako is the kind of coward who only goes for targets he thinks he can take and switches up fast when new information comes to light (like Charlie schooling Sneako about "clips" using his own guns as instruction aids, or when Sneako found out that "nerd" was Mikey Musumeci)
My reasoning behind being the "That's what you get!" Guy was the whole (Charlie "clips" debacle) where he flashed a firearm on stream as a means of intimidation. I've also been the guy who's been beat pretty good in a gym for being rude so I understand sometimes its part of the experience 🤙. Took those lefts better than Izzy which is wild 😂😂
Only because Sean didn't put anything on them. If he'd hit sneako with any kind if effort, they'd have to break out the smelling salts and put him in the recovery position.
@@daleford8621 lmao
Yes I'm also this guy.. sneako is too full of himself and I really dislike him. It was satisfying to see him get beat this way.
Also Snake-o the cuck said many times that he can box Charlie but pussied out when Brandon Buckingham called him out, dissed him and challenged him to a fight. So yeah "That's what you get!"
@@Marconel100Yeah that's why it was satisfying, if it was anyone else I'd think Strickland was wrong.
Really good video, felt like it came from a real place Mike
Heey Mike it's been a while since you have uploaded anything, hope you and your family are okay - all the best!!!
Manny Pacquiao Spar with an influencer last week and was a gentleman that's how champions act when you're to good at something there's nothing to prove act like a Champion.
Content like this is what makes Icy Mike so special as a creator 💎
this video is my personal proof why I am following Icy Mike and his channel. Good overlook, thinking between the lines and a smart build up video.
I’ve heard Sean say in interviews the fight time he went to a gym he got the sh*t beat out of him and it was the best day of his life. This is what he was doing
I actually wondered why it took Forrest Griffin so long to stop the fight 😂 I never even realised he left the cage lol 😂
he left cause he didnt want to see the slaughter
@@terrycruise-zd5tw well he had to come back to stop it
I've watched a couple of your videos now mike, and I gotta say you're one of my favorite channels now, simply because you're not just a meat head, you understand the psychology behind things, and you genuinely try to make every situation better for the people involved. That gets a sub from me. Have a nice day!
Sneako was pestering him...... Eventually a dog is going to stop growling and bite when it wants to be left alone.... Sean has made his feelings on influencers and sneako did pester him, so it's sort of a Darwin Award, annoy a man of violence and be surprised when he becomes violent. I don't think sneako will pester him any more,that was a clear "this is your warning spar seasion, after this go away" and yeah you could see sneako was regretting pestering him at for a podcast interview.....
There seemed to be a weight difference. Sneako looks kinda gaunt. It seemed fine. Sean said what he was going to do and Sneako might learn from it.
thats what being terminally online will do to ya
That was quite honestly a very sophisticated breakdown of the dynamics of abuse.
Damn you must a very scared person 50% of men you walk past every day could do this too you like he did sneako your just weak get stronger
@@Americanbullykennal well thank you kind stranger 🙏
1:17 I like your content Mike, but i think you failed here by not knowing who sneako is and missing the context on how often controversial he makes himself, which in turn may have caused Sean's response to be extra.
Im not saying that your criticism is invalid, just that you might have had a different view of the situation if you were fully aware of his person.
Oh you think sean is offended and angry over controversial views?
Sneako isn’t just controversial, he’s a fascist. I don’t think getting his ass beat in this context helped anyone, but I think of it along the lines of Richard Spencer getting sucker punched on TV.
@@hard2hurt Yes, first i thought it could be the more recent controversy, where he critiziced a bjj athlete and got called out then had to eat up all the backlash; However, knowing Strickland, it's more likely something to do with Sneako being a cuckold.
Also thanks for replying.
Pretty solid take on the whole situation, definitely makes me pity Strickland’s future kids though.
I love this because you address so much more than the fight. These are concepts that we all should be considering as a society and how we function and progress.
I remember a week or two ago when sneako talked a mountain of shit ab Mikey Musumeci and when Mikey called him out and he turned into “iM a STrEamEr”
You don’t go to Mike Tyson gym in his prime , people tell you don’t spar with him he’s going to knock you out / spar hard with you & you then proceed to get your grown ass in the ring thinking this is a game then you get what you get. Boxing / MMA isn’t a game people have literally died in the ring/octagon so I honestly respect Sean for not playing or inviting that goofy vlogging shit into this sport. I bet sneako won’t play around with this shit anymore and maybe even start taking classes and This is my opinion.
Key word sparring not fighting, a world champion can toy with a guy who's never trained with 1 hand , there's no need to fight him like he's about to get a belt
Sneako did start taking classes and Sean asked sneako to spar first in another video I saw. Can't stand sneako myself but I thought Sean took it too far. The three punches to the head at the end were definitely over the line in my opinion
He's sparred with Nate Diaz too now.
I am going to skip over the part about sparing, that others here have already correctly addressed and ask:
You do realize Sean INVITED him, right?!?!?!?!
It’s good to get humbled as a man. It sucks and if you’re a real man like you thought you were, you’ll learn from this and it should boost your pride knowing you actually got in there with a beast of a human.
You dont need brain damage . 😂 Just light touchws will teach him that was too much
Love your take! Great video.
This is just sad for the sport. Because at the end this is the kind of videos that make people think mixed martial artist are bunch of violent psychos.
I'm a little confused as to how to reconcile the fact that you said the level of intensity was fine and normal, yet also said that he was definitely trying to knock Sneako out.
Maybe it's because he didn't succeed in knocking him out. So it ended up being a fine level of intensity even if he was trying to knock him out. If he did knock him out then it wouldn't be fine.
@@arcrides6841 That doesn't make sense to me. You don't have to get knocked out to get brain damage, and intent does matter. Sneako was fortunate. and perhaps got a little lucky he didn't take a more damaging shot.
@@sonofjay817 I agree but perhaps that was his line of thinking when making the video. It's the only thing that I can think of to explain the contradiction.
His argument was that sparring hard is fine, but Sneako didn't know what he was in for. He thought he wanted this to feel tough but it was actually more than what he wanted or expected it to be. It's fine to go this hard if you know what you consent to.
Did Sneako kinda have it coming? Probably, but we shouldn't solely go on what we all deserve. That's not a world you want to live in.
Good video Mike
Interesting explain to me why that’s bad.
@@Sukuna214 You want to to be punished by everyone for every little thing?
i think he means that in the way the phrase is being used. some kid being a drunken idiot running their mouth at the mcdonald’s at 3am ”has it coming”, but you dont want to send him to the hospital just because of that.
@NamEcalos We all have it coming. Not strange at all
@@PaladinJackal what do you mean by this? what have you done in your life to think this way?
Mike you are so fucking good at picking apart sparring nuances and it makes me happier every time
I wish I was good at chemistry or blackjack or something else.
Resect. That's what Sneako lacks for the mastery of Shaun, for the thousands of hours spent pursuing this perfection. That's what he had to be taught.
Go to Shaun with respect, ask him for a one on one martial arts lesson - that will be a different animal altogether. Ask to spar and shoot the thing - that's disrespectful.
10:15 Truth. I've been there sadly
I think you’re right Mike…. I used to spar with a similar sort of dude (I knew him from when I was 3 yo). Not sure what happened in his house when we were young but when he smelled blood, his level of intensity increased, no matter what/when/were. I am pretty sure he justified it in much the same way as Strickland. My view is that he was always trying to prove himself and he thought this was a way he’d gain power. That guy ended up in prison for manslaughter.
Personally I think real strength is your ability to support other people with your strength and power.
Re, knocking someone out cold- That’s a real hard thing to do if it’s one on one, they have their hands up (and know even a little about defence) and are moving (unless there is a massive weight/power difference…. And you can’t run away). If they are trying to knock you out then that’s slightly different.
Read 10% of the comment and guessed he was in prison. Yupp
1st off - this is not a standard sparring match with a gym partner who you know and work regularly. It was a social media stunt and a diss to Sean. I'm glad he opened up on him and let him know what fighting is really about.
How did he diss Sean?
@@hard2hurthe fronts as an influencer. He approached him multiple times with a grin asking to spar. He was chasing clout and not respecting Sean's actual position.
Approaching him with a grin is a diss? Lol should he have prostrated himself and offered his hand? Showed Sean his belly or expose his throat?
@@hard2hurt No, but you don't walk into Gordon Ramsay's kitchen with a smug grin, video cameras and ball washers and challenge him to a cook off either. Not a hard concept.
@realranger6297 a cook off implies competition... sparring does not. Sneako was sparring. Sean was teasing, then he was fighting. He was never sparring.
He only went after him for exactly 20 seconds and everyone lost their mind id hate to see them react to a full round of that
Why do you think a full round would be ok? If that was an actual ufc fight it would have been stopped in like 10 seconds. Us ufc fans get mad at the ref every time we watch a fight that let's 3 or 4 unnecessary punches through. This was like 15 unnecessary punches.
Plenty of real fights last less time than that with someone ending up dead.
Reminds me of when Sean screamed and cried at Orlando Sanchez for doing the same thing to him.
@@jakeallstar1
Are you sure about that?
Most of those punches were at least partially blocked, which is why Sneako was basically fine.
No fighter wants a stoppage when he's ok, unless he's caught in a position he can't escape.
@@mason9807
Not even close to the same thing.
Sean had a fight coming up, couldn't afford to be injured, and the guy did a sudden crank on his arm that hurt his elbow joint.
I see a bully in Sean. I’ve dealt with his type before. They’re unchained and unhinged in their personal lives. They don’t inspire people through virtue and honor, they try to intimidate through fear and violence. Idk Sneako or his values, but I agree that he 110% shouldn’t give a rat’s ass what Sean thinks b/c respect is reciprocal and Sean showed zero respect by beating the snot out of a smaller, less capable fighter. Sean had an opportunity to demonstrate true manliness, which would’ve meant acting as a constructive mentor, instead he chose ugliness. He can say it was to teach Sneako a lesson he can use, but I suspect that such an excuse is superfluous to his ultimate motivation-to crush someone smaller than himself and thereby revel in his own power. Guys like him are very likely to be wifebeaters.
Phenomenal breakdown of the situation
I'm not a fighter but to Sean's defense as for why he couldn't knock Sneako out, they were using bigger gloves than you would in UFC weren't they? I'm sure that must affect how much damage you're taking or else there wouldn't be a reason to use bigger gloves in sparring or whatever.
lmao sean weighs at least 50 lbs more than sneako, 1 pound gloves arent gonna do much to mitigate damage in that situation, also plenty of people get dropped in sparring, it just further proves that sean really has pillow hands
Sean also just doesn't really knock dudes out period. He can hit hard and even drop dudes, but there's definitely a reason why he fights so defensively against pros.
@@terrycruise-zd5twThey still mitigate damage somehow even if only a little, also Sneako managed to block a lot of the punches so I don't really see your point that Sean is weak just because Sneako survived 10 seconds of Sean going hard. That's not really a fair critique imo, we all know that someone 50 lbs heavier who's a pro fighter could knock down Sneako if he really tried and didn't get pulled off after a short amount of time. Sneako was seconds away from falling if Forrest hadn't pulled him off imo
Great point about self respect. We hope that Sneako and others who are bullied learn to respect themselves and not seek the approval of abusive people.
Sneako didn't get bullied. He did the f around and find out thing, and he fully asked for it. You act like strickland walked up to him on the street and beat his ass for nothing. Sean could have blasted him from the jump but he didn't. He explained it on a video and even gives sneako some credit for taking what he did without going down. He basically took it as disrespect for that guy to think he could step in the ring. There's videos all over the internet of people being a bully and walking into a boxing gym challenging the trainer. They get their ass whipped and you all cheer them on but you're being a simp about this one? Weak
Sneako doesn’t get bullied. He is a bully.
judging by everyone's reactions to the sparring, I'm convinced if they did a "Bully Beatdown" type of show these days people would make videos sympathizing with all the bullies getting their ass beat.
yeah fr, sneako literally didn't even get injured he just got smacked around a lil like he deserved to. But sensitive ass "grown-ups" like this hard2hurt acting like it was a murder attempt.
This was awesome, best take I've seen on this, and a really mature solution with wisdom.
Not sure what I was expecting from this video, but it was a lot more nuanced and interesting than I had expected!
I like how straightforward Sean is. But he is not right in the head. I could see him beating someone to a pulp then eating their face off. Terrifying monster, but warriors and gladiators were all crazy.
Sean said the moment the clock was beeping "I want this to last longer." SO, while he congratulated Sneako for not dropping down, I don't think he was trying to knock him out. Sean tried to PUNISH him. Most people crumble/fold when he does that.
If he wanted to hurt him a liver shot was wide open and just one, even in big gloves, would have left him writhing on the floor.
What about Mikey? What did Sneako say to about him? IMO Sneako was cyber bullying and back out when dude called him to fight MMA
Think there's a couple more fighters he's mouthed about and I feel like Sneako finally got his issue.
I really still believe that Sean is the jerk here no matter how you spin it. Your upbringing does not need to define your outcome. You need to be better than that. He talks about being macho and rising about being soft, so why you holding onto your past anger bro? Box him normally with respect. He didn’t just hit him hard, he was actively trash talking and humiliating him.
I would never maliciously try to hurt someone knowing that I’m more skillful than the other one who i’m sparring with. If anything, I’m going to push that novice fighter to help make him better, but not do anything that would try to hurt the below average fighter who’s learning to box… especially when we’re not in the same weight class.
Shout out to Sneako for hanging in there, but Strickling was a little bit wrong for his actions in the ring against a novice.
*And if you look at the footage between Alex Bahedah & Strickland sparring, Strickland did not do anything of the sort with Alex as he did with Sneako, because he knew Alex would knock him out if he tried to hurt him.
I hate influencers too, but the kid has some balls, gotta respect it.
If he doesn't spar or fight Jake Sean is a bitch who only picks on the weak
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