Best brake in my line up which includes Hope, Sram code RSC and Shimano XT. You definitely have to readjust and not pull so hard. Not sure why people complain about initial brake away force. It’s non existent. I actually was hesitant when I saw Dale Stones review but bought them anyway because claiming 50% more power is to hard to pass up. I can’t tell you if they actually are 50% more powerful but I ran 7 laps Baseline Mountain in Alberta and I had no hand fatigue what so ever. That’s even running the stock pads. These brakes give you confidence.
I think these look great. Very happy to see SRAM switch to mineral oil, and the quality looks fantastic. If I didn’t buy a set of XT 8120s just a few months ago, I’d pick some up. Great overview, mate. Cheers
I have the Maven Ultimates on my YT. I wanted awesome braking power and these provide that. They are a pain to get bled properly. Had to bleed the rear brake after shortening the hose on install. Break away is not what people are describing imo. I absolutely do not notice it when riding. Anyways, I think they rock and I’m pumped to have them. Confidence inspiring. 👍👍
Thank you for the video, this is the best maven review that I've seen so far 👍 I have a pair of Hayes brakes that I haven't tried but I am highly interested in the Maven's. I am running SRAM DB8's atm, which have been surprisingly good.
Got the red limited edition ultimates. I put them on my beefed up, built up trek fuel ex. Love them to death, I had someone try to break check me at the bike park and just laughed at them when I stopped on a dime.
Wasn’t too stoked on codes, maguras have been junk, and my Hope Tech 4 V4 brakes have been awesome but the bleed process sucks.. These Maven brakes kick ass though! Super easy set up and bleed process, easy to align the calipers, and they have insane braking power with such little effort. Totally blow the other brakes out of the water even with the organic pads. Don’t even need to consider the metallic set up.
@@DarrenSmith-x6h When wet they can get pretty squeally but not any worse than my Hopes or Maguras honestly. That said I have only used my Mavens with organic pads so far
TWo months ago I got my new Santa Cruz Heckler SL - R that came with DB8.. Those brakes were ok but I had to pull real hard on the lever… I went also in BC for 10 days of bike park with my Santacruz Nomad that has Sram Guide RE brakes.. and those really killed my right index finger… I just installed Saints on my Heckler and oh my god I am now a happy camper. Shimano is really the best for me… I don’t think I’ll go with dominions, I saw too many defaults and Magura seems complicated and fragile…
I use the DB8'S on my 2017 Norco Aurum DH bike with generic 2.3 mm rotors and cooma copper/ceramic pink pads they are extremely light on lever effort and grab quite well. From factory they had air in them, if that helps
Nice comprehensive look at many details. Surprisingly, they shifted to mineral oil. You said they did this because of the seal design. From an engineering standpoint, I wonder which was the driver for shifting to Mineral oil? Was it the design goal to have a seal material type that so happens to require mineral oil or if the goal was to change to mineral oil and therefore they had to change the seal material? I presume they're trying to get some friction out of the system and the friction may come from seal drag. Perhaps the seal drag is minimized with a material type that requires mineral oil for compatibility? Or is leakage a concern driving the change? I've been running SRAM Code R reliably with no leaks or fluid changes for 7000 miles on my Levo. No need for any changes 😊
@@biketothetop What they might not say is that some Europeans/ Germans just complain constantly about having to use DOT. Obviously that won’t make it into any of the marketing materials…this is from an interview I listened to recently
@@LoveMTB nothing personal here, but I really don't care whether I use a European preferred fluid or a US based standard if I don't have to do any maintenance or if it's infrequent maintenance with maximized reliability and performance. I love the fact that I don't have to screw around with anything other than changing pads and I get pretty good stopping power. There's always a price to pay in order to make design changes. I love not being the guinea pig or the the bank account that has to pay a premium price for this stuff.
Been using the Maven ultimates, I've used shimano xt, and sram code RSC's, they are definately a bump up in power..its on my Reval Rail that weighs about 32lbs, so no real need for weight savings, haha. Overall, they are performing very well, I did notice on some longer descents the arm pump that that blogger Dale, was talking about. Not as light a feel as the shimano XT. I will say they are all very good brakes and just comes down to preference of company. I'm not brand loyal at all.
In my opinion Sram still can´t do brakes! Maybe just on some calipers, but definetly on mines (the silver ones and I ordered two sets of them with the same issues) you can see a lot of movement between the two halves of the caliper! In new condition for example they squeeze out factory grease that is applied between the caliper halves and it's also easy visible to see the "gap" closing/opening when you pull the brakes! I´ll definitely query them, I mean they brake but probably they could do much better without quality issues!
@@c-claudel I did hear about some calipers not being tightened properly to torque with mavens. I’ve had that happen with other brands as well. I usually just open them up and clean up excess grease around seals, add the right amount, sometimes swap the seals, and tighten back up to torque. Shouldn’t be necessary to do with new brakes but at least it’s not difficult.
@@LoveMTB I had lower end shimano 2 piston calipers that were like this. Always hated how inconvenient that design choice is. They Should have just made it 1 Piece like hope or magura but I guess it's cheaper to manufacture this way
Sram is very poor with quality control had to rebleed new brakes and the oil was murky and very thin . No help from sram so last product i will ever buy !!
Honestly they are a bit harder to pull than my codes.. but I also have to pull waaaaaaaaaaay less to get the same amount of braking. So my fingers have actually been feeling better with these
Best brake in my line up which includes Hope, Sram code RSC and Shimano XT. You definitely have to readjust and not pull so hard.
Not sure why people complain about initial brake away force. It’s non existent. I actually was hesitant when I saw Dale Stones review but bought them anyway because claiming 50% more power is to hard to pass up.
I can’t tell you if they actually are 50% more powerful but I ran 7 laps Baseline Mountain in Alberta and I had no hand fatigue what so ever. That’s even running the stock pads. These brakes give you confidence.
I really like how the way give us a review. The questions on my mind about that product answered definitely. Thank you!
You're welcome
I think these look great. Very happy to see SRAM switch to mineral oil, and the quality looks fantastic. If I didn’t buy a set of XT 8120s just a few months ago, I’d pick some up. Great overview, mate. Cheers
@@MarioGoatse yeah I would love to check them out as well
I have the Maven Ultimates on my YT. I wanted awesome braking power and these provide that. They are a pain to get bled properly. Had to bleed the rear brake after shortening the hose on install. Break away is not what people are describing imo. I absolutely do not notice it when riding. Anyways, I think they rock and I’m pumped to have them. Confidence inspiring. 👍👍
Thank you for the video, this is the best maven review that I've seen so far 👍 I have a pair of Hayes brakes that I haven't tried but I am highly interested in the Maven's. I am running SRAM DB8's atm, which have been surprisingly good.
No problem 👍
Got the red limited edition ultimates. I put them on my beefed up, built up trek fuel ex. Love them to death, I had someone try to break check me at the bike park and just laughed at them when I stopped on a dime.
@@tonyochoa16 those red ones look mean🤘
Wasn’t too stoked on codes, maguras have been junk, and my Hope Tech 4 V4 brakes have been awesome but the bleed process sucks.. These Maven brakes kick ass though! Super easy set up and bleed process, easy to align the calipers, and they have insane braking power with such little effort. Totally blow the other brakes out of the water even with the organic pads. Don’t even need to consider the metallic set up.
How's the squeal are they typical sram noisy
@@DarrenSmith-x6h When wet they can get pretty squeally but not any worse than my Hopes or Maguras honestly. That said I have only used my Mavens with organic pads so far
TWo months ago I got my new Santa Cruz Heckler SL - R that came with DB8.. Those brakes were ok but I had to pull real hard on the lever… I went also in BC for 10 days of bike park with my Santacruz Nomad that has Sram Guide RE brakes.. and those really killed my right index finger… I just installed Saints on my Heckler and oh my god I am now a happy camper. Shimano is really the best for me… I don’t think I’ll go with dominions, I saw too many defaults and Magura seems complicated and fragile…
@@GhislainLeduc well bike mechanics in Whistler run the good ol’ Saint brakes so I think you made a wise decision
I have the DB8 and I don't have to pull hard at all, maybe an adjustment was different. Btw, the DB8 also use mineral oil, no it's not new to SRAM.
I use the DB8'S on my 2017 Norco Aurum DH bike with generic 2.3 mm rotors and cooma copper/ceramic pink pads they are extremely light on lever effort and grab quite well.
From factory they had air in them, if that helps
Nice comprehensive look at many details. Surprisingly, they shifted to mineral oil. You said they did this because of the seal design. From an engineering standpoint, I wonder which was the driver for shifting to Mineral oil? Was it the design goal to have a seal material type that so happens to require mineral oil or if the goal was to change to mineral oil and therefore they had to change the seal material? I presume they're trying to get some friction out of the system and the friction may come from seal drag. Perhaps the seal drag is minimized with a material type that requires mineral oil for compatibility? Or is leakage a concern driving the change? I've been running SRAM Code R reliably with no leaks or fluid changes for 7000 miles on my Levo. No need for any changes 😊
@@biketothetop What they might not say is that some Europeans/ Germans just complain constantly about having to use DOT. Obviously that won’t make it into any of the marketing materials…this is from an interview I listened to recently
I think to appease the mineral oil babies.
No wonder they always say DOT is corrosive and mineral oil is just like baby oil.
@@LoveMTB nothing personal here, but I really don't care whether I use a European preferred fluid or a US based standard if I don't have to do any maintenance or if it's infrequent maintenance with maximized reliability and performance. I love the fact that I don't have to screw around with anything other than changing pads and I get pretty good stopping power. There's always a price to pay in order to make design changes. I love not being the guinea pig or the the bank account that has to pay a premium price for this stuff.
I think they wanted to fix all of the issues once and for all.
@@VerthNeel or create a whole lot of new issues
Been using the Maven ultimates, I've used shimano xt, and sram code RSC's, they are definately a bump up in power..its on my Reval Rail that weighs about 32lbs, so no real need for weight savings, haha. Overall, they are performing very well, I did notice on some longer descents the arm pump that that blogger Dale, was talking about. Not as light a feel as the shimano XT. I will say they are all very good brakes and just comes down to preference of company. I'm not brand loyal at all.
@@50whatnomadtravelnursemtb5 arm pump can come from the brakes but not only
@@LoveMTB yeah I agree but he says these are no good because the lever is too hard to pull …my thought is stop being a wimp lol
Yeah my thoughts exactly, get a bit stronger first then…🤘
I’m currently running Code Silver Stealth. No issues.
Agree, love them in comparison to XT8100. Better in every single way, from quality to lever feel to bleed process.
Why not go for the silver? I know ultimate is for serious racers but silver should be a better option than bronze?
@@ninjazzrhythm400 if I was to choose I would probably get the Silver as the sweet spot
Do your bite point grow if you pull the levers fast? I have 2 sets of the ultimates and i have been unable to get a consostent bite point
Can't say that I noticed that but did not ride them on trail either. Look at the comments I don't remember anyone cmentioning that.
What about some ride impressions review?
Sometimes life is busy, and hectic
These videos help to focus in, and allow you to enjoy a tea/coffee
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In my opinion Sram still can´t do brakes!
Maybe just on some calipers, but definetly on mines (the silver ones and I ordered two sets of them with the same issues) you can see a lot of movement between the two halves of the caliper! In new condition for example they squeeze out factory grease that is applied between the caliper halves and it's also easy visible to see the "gap" closing/opening when you pull the brakes!
I´ll definitely query them, I mean they brake but probably they could do much better without quality issues!
@@c-claudel I did hear about some calipers not being tightened properly to torque with mavens. I’ve had that happen with other brands as well. I usually just open them up and clean up excess grease around seals, add the right amount, sometimes swap the seals, and tighten back up to torque. Shouldn’t be necessary to do with new brakes but at least it’s not difficult.
@@SnowShackboy Thx, already check that and tighten them to torque but nothing changed, maybe I'll open them.
@@c-claudel Have you contacted SRAM? I think they are swapping issue calipers out for free as well.
Do yours have a floating bite point that keeps growing when you pull the levers fast?
@@SnowShackboy They will swap probably, but they also say: it´s because of the extreme Power of the Calipers :D
wonder if these can be used with magura MDR-P rotors, could be a great combination, anyone on here try that combo?
I’ve got a few sets of CODE RSC’s and haven’t had a chance to try these on anyone’s bike yet. I will say the caliper sure isn’t pretty, Lol.
these seem l,e they would be ideal for cargo bikes
@@siriosstar4789 they would probably be fine for that
Is that a Maven lever in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
needing to remove the wheel to check the pads is pretty much the only and is a huge downside for a lot of people me included
Hayes Dominion uses the same idea for caliper structural strength, or that's their explanation - th-cam.com/video/6nN4PeIRZgs/w-d-xo.html
@@LoveMTB I had lower end shimano 2 piston calipers that were like this. Always hated how inconvenient that design choice is. They Should have just made it 1 Piece like hope or magura but I guess it's cheaper to manufacture this way
@trailfork7815 😪😪😪😪 How hard is it to remove a wheel infrequently? Do your tires and/or sealant maintenance intervals outlast your pads?
@@biketothetop I do tend to clean my pads and disc more frequently than I do maintenance on the wheels
@trailfork7815 with my Code R system, I just change metal pads infrequently and never clean them... 7000 miles of trouble free use.
Sram is very poor with quality control had to rebleed new brakes and the oil was murky and very thin . No help from sram so last product i will ever buy !!
@@shaunpasay9240 Hmmm…hope you sorted that out
so maven are hard to squeeze. Thanks but no thanks Sram!
You’re watching too much Dale Stone
I got a pair and they are not hard to squeeze I don’t know what people are talking about
@@scottm.5573 How many grams of water do you have to hang off your lever for it to move 🤣😅
Honestly they are a bit harder to pull than my codes.. but I also have to pull waaaaaaaaaaay less to get the same amount of braking. So my fingers have actually been feeling better with these
Not true.
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Never ever sram brakes of any kind. NEVER.
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