Acoustic Drum kit Micing - I need help - Share your tips with me
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- I've decided to mic my acoustic kit for videos, but I need your help...
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My kit is a Pearl Valencia circa 1960's modified/modernized and converted to be an electronic kit.
1. I think it sounds good! :) It sounds close, not distant IMO, not necessarily that warm but clear.
2. Loosen up the snare wire just a little, not so much that you hear it rattping but so much that very, VERY light taps near the rim activate them!
3. Do you NEED the gate or eo you use it because lots of people use it? Mic bleed is actually a good thing in many places, it makes things sound round and organic. Try without the gate! Most people use it on the close mic channelw only.
4. Overheads FIRST! Use overheads, get them to sound good with placement (so that they sound balanced and give you a good stereo inpression) and EQ (most of the time you want a broad-ish mid cut at 400-600 Hz). Cut the lows below 40Hz. That's all that is needed most of the time, everything else is luxury.
5. Then listen to and separately EQ the close mics. If you have single channels for them, that would be best, because the generally need different EQ treatment than overheads. If you can't do that, skip this step. The general mid cut I suggested for the OHs will have to do.
6. Bring in the close mix signals very slowly, so they support (not dominate!) the overhead signal, adding punch and clarity.
7. If you can, use a room mic! Throw a mic out the hallway, like your vocal mic. Just put it out on a pillow outside of the door/window/or as far away in the room as you can. Be very carful with that signal, a liiitle goes a long way. Also, spend more time with EQ here, it can be quite bassy which you might want to reeuce, or white harsh so you have to cut 2-5kHz etc. Bring it in a LITTLE into the full mixy just so that it supports (not dominates) the full sound of the drum kit. Then back off some dB until you can just about hear it.
8. Do you NEED a compressor? It can be used to make stuff louder (almost irrelevant, we all have volume knobs) or sound purposes (but for how/what you play I don't tjink you really want a very tightly pumping aggressive attack-y sound, right?). Which one do you use it for? Try 10ms attack, 20ms RMS, 100ms release, ratio 1:2, then pull back the threshold until you hit about 4-8dB reduction. Just one of many starring possibilities, this would be for loudness and a little more punch.
9. Do you NEED reverb? Try the overhead + room mic thing, see if that gives you the warmth/organicness ans sustain you need, and worry about reverb when all that sounds fine!
Best of luxk, this will be a year long struggle to learn and get right! :) Keep reading/trying/learning (yt Dan Worrel's videos on anything!), keep being curious. Great things ahead!
Thank you so much for this advice. It does look like I have a road ahead of me tinkering, testing etc. But that half the fun, right?
@@TheAverageDrummer It ia, yeah! :D And don't worry too mich about it. Your sound / recordings will never stop improving, you never "get there" as in it won't get better. So while tinkering is fun, don't forget to be happy with where you got already! I don't think this sounded bad at all! ^^
@@TheAverageDrummerOh, and btw.: "Dry" signal is without the effect, "wet" is the signal with the effect! So usually, you e.g. mix 0dB conpressed with -10dB dry signal, or for reverb, 0dB dry with -10dB wet reverb etc., just try around how much dry/wet balance you want - separately from tweaking the effect itself.
Hey Duane, I typically run Gate -> compressor -> EQ -> effects.
If your applying the mix to the single output channel I personally do not see the point in a gate as it would really only mute the whole kit when your not playing. Where if it was applied to each mic it can prevent some crossover and phasing issue. Appreciate the name and shame and good luck.
P.s. never to busy to help a friend out.
Thanks Tim. I'll be sure to call on you if I get stuck.
Duane!!!!!!! I have no idea what to do with this,,,,,,, I’m not good at editing,,,, all I do is put it on arena setting
You use the Yamaha EAD10 right? I did think of going down this route, but over here it retails for NZ$1100!!!
@@TheAverageDrummer yeah,,,,l I got the EAD10 with trigger ,,,,,, I love it,,,, it’s too bad it’s so expensive over there,,,, I’m sorry my friend