The Ultimate Guide To Carrying A Passenger On A Motorcycle
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It’s cool and all that your bike has adjustable suspension but how would I do that on a cbr600?
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If she grips my waist with her knees during cornering/tutning the same way I grip the tank it improves stability.
Hi motojitsu. I am picking up a 2022 tracer gt soon. It will be mostly used for weekend rides with the mrs as pillion. I have a few questions
1 - how is the tracer 9gt as a bike
2- do I have to always adjust the rear suspension when riding solo and 2 up
3- if it has a Manual pre load how to adjust it and what setting it should be at. How would I know that it's at the right setting for solo and 2 up
Your help is much appreciated
What my father had me do as a passenger when I was younger than 12 years old now makes sense to me after watching this video. He always wanted me to hold onto him in a hug with full upper body contact. My head laid on the side, resting on his back. He always reminded me not to move at all when the motorcycle is moving.
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I learned this lesson the hard way when I was a teenager with a Honda 50 Super Sport in the mid-60's. I became very proficient riding by myself and I wanted my mom to enjoy the ride around our tiny neighborhood. I asked her to hop on without remembering that she didn't even know how to ride a bicycle. When we came to the first turn - a T-intersection requiring a right or left turn - I leaned left but the little Honda went straight ahead no matter how hard I leaned. As I came to a stop in our neighbor's yard (thank God no car was coming), I asked Mom what she was doing back there. She said she was helping me by leaning in the opposite direction. In other words, from the rear we looked like the letter "V".
Bottom line: Before getting on the motorcycle, find out what your prospective passenger knows or doesn't know. You are NOT in full control when you have a passenger.
That's why you don't take passengers who have no awareness of riding...I usually only take passengers who are riders themselves. Since there's always a chance of them doing something stupid, your skills better be able to handle it or it's your fault for taking the passenger. Lesson learned I'm sure!
This gave me a real good laugh 😂😂
LMAO
Hahaha. But thank God nothing really bad happened.
:-) ha ha .. So true.
i've always found it much easier to have non riders as pillions because they just do as they're told and stay neutral on the bike.
Lol people have a hard time listening lol
Lols my friend can't relate he hated riding with another chick after telling her what she needs to know, and she still wants to ride with him. Meanwhile I join him on a couple of rides once in a while and he's like "why can't she be like you..." I laughed so loud and said bike life isn't for everyone nor anyone.
My wife told me see sometimes closes her eyes (as a passenger of course) when she gets a bit spooked when we need to make a u-turn. This way she won't counter lean she says. She is a perfect passenger btw :). Sometimes I have to poke her leg to see if see is still on the bike xD
Lol
Funny! My husband is doing the same if I am sometimes passenger - are you still there? :-D But I'm also a rider so I think I'm a good passenger.
Ao was told years ago to dress for the slide not the ride. Wise advise
Tony Emans yes! I’d rather sweat than bleed!!
Tony Emans if you dressing for the slide you don't know how to ride
evan marks mmmm so why does VR46 wear gear? Does he know how to ride? That’s just ignorance. You can be amazing, some car can still blow a stop sign and hit you.
evan marks when I see comments like this it immediately tells me what type of rider you are and the way you approach riding, say safe !
Thanks!
This dude even when he ties his boots makes it look like a big deal
lol!
Just kidding dude, you are awesome. Ride safe 😊
I know, lol
Never seen a vest over a jacket, you are sick man ...
Very nice video. A lot of very good points, and I hate riding with passenger because of them. The only passenger I ride with is my wife and that's because she's rider herself, so she has full gear and know exactly how to behave on motorcycle. Greetings from Poland :)
sohpol That’s awesome!
sohpol Great wife
Same here! I ride and my partner rides. He has a Triumph Daytona, I have a Yahama R3 and a Triumph Street Triple as well. His Daytona is THE most uncomfortable bike to go pillion on! I'm tiny, less than 100lb and 5"2. Sometimes he has to pat my leg to make sure I'm still on!
I'd be careful about telling a pillion not to move on the bike, especially a first timer. Some take it literally and they get really stiff and end up not enjoying it because they think you're going to crash if they move. Tell them they can adjust their body as long as they warn you first.
Also, for a first timer, teach them a signal to tell you if you're going too fast. Sometimes totally normal speeds seem fast for someone who's never been on a bike.
I do mean it literally...if they move, it will mess me up. If the passenger doesn't want to ride with me, they don't have to. It's my choice to take one and if they're not willing to adhere to my requests, they don't have to ride. Plus, I wouldn't take a first timer...I only take passengers who have been a passenger before or ride themselves. If you do other things for your passengers, then great. We all have our things we do and things that work for us. This video was my experience for riding passengers all around on the streets and I even take passengers on the track.
Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun Yeah, I can see your point.
But pillions do move, and It's mostly fine. A bit weird the first times, but you get used to it, like anything really.
Also, most viewers watch this video because they're going to take a pillion for the first time, most likely their friend or wife, so It's a bit weird that you don't take new passengers. Everybody has to start somewhere.
People make it up to be harder then it actually is. The first time I rode a bike I had a pillion on the back, my riding instructor. Might seem weird but It's a common thing over here.
Pedro Silva They do move a bit, but I encourage my passengers not to. If I ever do take one that’s brand new, it will be here in this parking lot. I can do everything with a passenger as I can without one...
I've seen advice elsewhere to tell the pillion to look over your shoulder into turns. So if you lean your body, they will follow. I guess it's a matter of preference, but I think it might actually be an important bit of advice if what they're holding onto is you.
I tell my passengers to look in the direction I'm going...but not move their body. She needs to be paying attention like I am and not daydreaming.
100% Love what and how you teach. I love your videos and I am inspired to practice more. Cheers from Australia!
Awesome!! Thank you so much! Let me know your progress!!
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for putting this information out there! My friend asked if I could take her out for a ride and I told her that I'll take her to a parking lot for her first ride and or as many as it takes for her to feel comfortable.
I guess she did some research, and came across your video. She surprised me how well she did especially since she's never been on a bike before, I told her she did awesome and she showed me this video later lol🤙🏽
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Hey Fast Eddie. Thanks for all your posts. Im really enjoying them and learning so much. I will be buying my first bike very soon and your vids are preparing me for what I will need to know/practice. You put the message over clearly and simply plus you have a really great way or getting things across. Keep them coming
Andrew Seager Awesome! Courses and gear!! Then practice!!
Great tips! I always thought slightly adjusting your body as a passenger (if your butt is sore) is fine while going straight at speed, but it only makes sense not to move in corners, during slow speed maneuvering or when stopping. That's when balanced mass is most critical and any movement that would upset that balance is very likely to cause a tip over.
MackP Exactly right!
As a passenger I have had to adjust my butt but what I did was put full power into my legs. Stay straight backed. Push straight up on the foot pegs . Up and down quick, no shaking. Its fine. Driver doesn't notice.
I will remember that "be a sack of potatoes "🤣
hahahhahaha
Dann, I love this video. Perfectly explained, even without cuts.
Rindy89 lol thanks! Yeah, all 4 of these videos I just recorded was with just one take! Lol
Absolutely love all your videos! Thank you!
Faizu Salim You’re very welcome! Thank you for the support!
Nicely done. I was chuckling at the end because your passenger was slowly increasing in weight as the video went on --- 100 lbs, 150 lbs, and then 200 lbs. Just curious what the camera woman thought of that because she is definitely well south of 200. 😉
AZ Geek Increasing the weight? What do you mean?
Started with a 100 lb rock example, then it was 150, and then 200 pounds by the end. Just wondering what was going through your partner's head as she heard that. Obviously she didn't take any offense in thinking you were talking about her weight.Again, good video, I was just trying to be funny.
OHHHHHH lol I gotcha...no she doesn't take offense to anything I say lol
@@AZGeek520 i was laughing at the same thing.
some women can be super sensitive about such things.
Excellent Lesson! If you don't yet Teach MC Safety, please start to do so! I've been riding for more than half a century, and STILL I learned something new from your Instruction. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video, and for posting it. You have saved lives with this information!
Thank you so much Capt. Daniel!
Hello
I live in England and am going to do my UK motorcycle full license. Your videos are amazing. Your explanations are clear and concise. Some instructors here have seen your slow speed videos. Very good indeed. Thanks for posting. John
John Derby wow awesome!!
Hey ty very much your strait up I can listen to you u know ur stuff buddy ty for all ur time spent on these videos much appreciated
You're welcome!
Amen bro, great advise! Loving the videos, keep it up!
Isaiah B Yes Sir!
I came across your channel a couple days ago, and I'll have to say you explain these tips very well - subscribed! I'm glad you included how the rider is not supposed to move / lean while on the back. Many videos say to have the passenger lean with you around corners, etc. Better to have them just stay upright. If you do your job with proper counter steering, they should not have to work and help with the turn (more likely, as you mentioned, would end up making it more difficult). Will keep following this channel, and catch up on the many I missed so far!
B Schmidt Awesome! Thank you!! Yes, I ride with passengers A LOT! And if they move it throws me off completely!
The suspension advice was definitely needed! Great content 👍
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First video I’ve seen that breaks down the aspects of riding with a pillion to this level. Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
You're very welcome! Share with others!!
wow great video and much needed info. I'm glad I watched, some things I did not think about considering. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you so much!! You're very welcome! Please share with others so hopefully others can share you experience!
Best bike tips in a whole TH-cam.
Niklas Thanks!!
True
Great advice.... But, I never put the bike in gear until the passenger is on, and I'm ready to move, IF you have the bike in gear before the passenger climbs on and you both lose your balance, you will let the clutch out and it will shoot forward.. that's not good.. take care and safe riding.. 6teve trekker
If that's the way you do it, great! I don't like to because then I have to take one foot off the ground to put it into gear, rather have both feet planted when I take off.
MotoJitsu.... Great videos, I've enjoyed watching all of them.. keep up the good work
Thanks! :) Much more to come
You could be in gear with the bike off
True, but I like Motojitsu's reasoning, and as stated above as well, you can have the bike turned off.
I have my bike in gear, off, then let passenger get on. Then I'll start the bike.
Great advice… definitely the first I have seen to cover these points. Thanks 👍🏻
Thanks a lot for all this advice, it seems like a lot to take in but you keep it so simple and interesting as always.
You're welcome! The technique isn't too hard but the time it takes for it to become easy is tremendous. If you're willing to spend the time, then you'll be as good as you want to be my friend :)
Great safety video. "Gear up !"....words to live by.
Barry
Barry Kery Thanks!!
I'm so happy for you, Eddie... You've been doing great with your content and consistency!!!
Kudos!!!
Thanks!!
Glad I found this channel. Great detailed instructions. Thank you.
Thank you so much! Help me spread the word by sharing with your riding buddies!
New rider here, and get asked this question a lot "when can i ride pillion on your bike". And my answer is the same ... not till i am ready. Guess there's more to this than just me being ready. I am still learning, still getting used to riding my bike and getting to be confident in it. My bike hasn't been on any major roads yet, it probably won't for some time. Looking at your videos makes me realise that there's a still lot more to learn (liked your positioning tip in the making a quick getaway video, something i need to put into practice the next time i am on public roads). Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
You're a smart man! It's not just you being ready, it's having the confidence through experience and practice you know you can handle yourself and the passenger in case something happens. You must know how to stop and swerve and corner and deal with traffic before ever taking another passenger....plus, like I said in the video, it's a big deal to have the suspension adjusted, not just for yourself, but for the passenger...minimum to your weight.
👍👍👍 I was hoping you had some vids on passengers, my wife is going to ride with me once I get my act together and she has her gear, we can sit down and watch this together👌
:I have another passenger video too
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Good idea, most people have 0 clue about how to.
@@MotoJitsu i once drove with 3 passengers on my 110cc scooter it's a hellish ride but i did it safely
@@zeniths823 Different culture...it's your life.
@@MotoJitsu yup and different bike too i recently brought suziki gixxxer 150 sf and i am only travelling with 1 passenger at back i once did tribles because i have no choice but never doing it again in my bike. even though i am doing doubles regularly i have to admit ridding without passenger feels good
zenith s That’s Indonesia lol I see a family of four riding on one scooter all the time😅
Second time watching. 1st time was to educate my wife and myself before our first trip. This time I’m having my daughter watch before our first trip. Thank you for all the great information you put out!
Great Video, Thanks for sharing.Totally it makes sense, It helps me a lot, man! Greetings from Mexico City.
Awesome! You're welcome!
I don't have big bike lol but Yamaha Mio GT scooter and this is so true... I use it everyday I also let know my passenger if he/she is ready I have seen people falling because the rider think the passenger is ready. Also one day I almost fall when I didn't know my passenger was going to up.... This are really good tips.
Exactly!! Thank you!
Thanks Eddie, some really helpful info there. I ride a lot with my wife as passenger on my Tiger 800 and I always have the kickstand down when she is getting on an off...just an extra precaution, never fallen yet.
Barnacle William Sweet bike! That trick works for some people, I don’t because I don’t want to try and lift my bike plus the extra weight off the kickstand while balancing on one foot. 😁
I take your point Eddie, I don't lean the bike on the stand, I have both feet down, the stand is out just as a precaution in case we might go over for any reason, and with the extra weight my feet are well grounded. ps...love your GS..
Barnacle William Ahhh ok then...makes sense :)
I find it hard to get my little Triumph Street Triple off the kick stand with a pillion, so it comes up first.
A lot of useful info right there..great job man !!!👍
Thanks!
Thank you young man, not too often you find responsible people anymore....60yrs... 10 bikes.. 6 accidents.. still alive ...on new bikes...
Wow!! I bet you have some crazy stories!!
Thanks man, loved that slow speed tutorial. It's always been a weakness of mine.
About pillions, I tell my passengers "hang on with your knees-real tight". This locks them to my body. They have to squeeze and keep squeezing your thighs.
Thanks!
You can take a passenger without adjusting the suspension...you can also go running without shoes on but it's not a good idea.
I was waiting for a knee down with passenger :D
@@tristanw9413 I have videos of that
You must be kiddin bro. Imma find that one 🔥✊🏾😂
Glad I found your channel. Great content... especially while stuck at home right now!
Thanks!
Sitting here thinking about how long it would take to binge watch every video you have on your channel... I'll check back in when im done. Your information is amazing!
Thanks Ervin! Share with others :)
Great video. I agree with most of what your saying.
My passenger is my wife. Thankfully nothing has happened to us while riding 2up. I enjoy riding solo, because I can do what a want. If I want to take a corner going 70+ then so be it lol. With a passenger it's different you have to take in consideration the life, experience, level of comfort, etc.
Yup.
Shout out to Layla the awesome person behind the camera :)
yes!
Hi Moto...man you do awesome videos and a life saver at that...I've never ridden a motorcycle ( take that back I have ridden dirt bikes back in the day ..like 3 decades lol ) but I do want to start again and I watch your videos very through .Thanks so much and keep them coming ..Please :: you do everyone justice
Thanks!!! Take a course :)
I´ve watched a few videos for passenger riding techniques, and yours is the best-explained tutorial I saw, Congrats and thank you for this video.
Thank you!
this is the first time I've heard that the passenger doesn't lean with the rider and that does seem to simplify things considerably. Thanks
You're welcome! I tell riders "don't move" and if they stay still....I can do what I do...
globe IZ Truth well his "off-road" gs is a road kisser😂
that's find even if it is, I had a 2015 GSA and only took it off road twice.... I didn't have a problem with that either. I never know when I might go off road or ride up on some really bad roads. ADVENTURE is the best way to Roll, even if it is on the street..... Keep getting test•y and you might end up kissing the road with that mouth of yourz...... lol
I like to advise passengers to peak around my helmet on the inside of the turn.
Right..I do the same..And it turns out it works. I tell them to look few meters in front of my front wheel -inside the turn. Just head their turning without leaning moving around etc...naturally, it makes their body better following the deal and better cornering.. After a while if you have good pillion that listen or talented one, ...you become like one on the bike..
A little part of myself wanted to see double knee dragging haha but I know that’s silly
pjmtts Hahahaha double! That would mean I crashed!
Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun think he means with a passenger. Love the video's by the way. Always great to see other peoples takes on even basic things(not that this is basic)
Another great video. Thanks for sharing you experiences.
You're welcome!
Thank you for the detailed tuition, Very informative and helpful 👍😊
I remember you told us your name in last video sadly I can't remember so sorry for calling you 'eddie'. Something I'd like to see would be a nice riding commentary on a nice twisty road and what you're thinking as and when you're round the bend, including entries, exits, throttle balancing mid corner, when to get on the power etc... I would like to see the difference if possible between a moderate and quicker but safe pace. Do you think this would be possible ?
StuOnTwo hahaha yes my actual name is Greg...I could probably arrange something like that...I have a GoPro I can attach to my helmet but I don’t have a microphone...
I'm sure you could find one when you have a few spare bucks no ?
StuOnTwo a microphone? I’m sure I can figure out how to do that with a GoPro...yes. But if I’m riding around on a twisty public road, the speeds are slower so many of the things won’t be relevant. Vision, throttle, line selection will be but body position won’t.
Thumb up for Polish flag! Pozdrawiam
rollss123 Lol
Thanks for these tips, really really good. It's a big problem for me especially when I pick up people who really don't have much experience as pillions...
Adam Samari Don’t take them! Lol
Very Helpful - I’m glad I watched this!
Thanks :)
Well done, good video but, we get the point, we get the point... “fully geared up”, “fully geared up”.
Hope so! I'm not going to stop saying it!
:-)
Full gear, take courses, and practice! If you can't do Blue Belt with a passenger, don't take one. motojitsu.com
So I only have a learners permit can I still have a passenger on my motorcycle
You should know...it's written on your permit. Simple answer no...and don't take one for a long time.
@@MotoJitsu OK
@@MotoJitsu thanks for the answer
Man you advice the passenger not to move. However on Total Control Lee Parks mentions that the best passenger he had was a woman who fully trusted him meaning she was following his moves. I am confused.
Excellent advice and interesting video you have there .Great stuff
Thank you! Please share with your riding friends!
Even though this is two years old.....it is very relevant information. I've been a passenger on my boyfriend's bike for a while, although he says I'm a good passenger, I feel like I'm not totally knowledgeable and aware of all the key points you spoke about.....now I feel better about my passenger status. Thank you.
Truth doesn't fade with time. I have a newer video about passenger riding too if you wanna check it out.
Brilliant advice 1000% agree with you and what your saying thanks for sharing this vid happy riding:)
Thanks Paul!! :)
Seen some of your vids the other day, cool to see a fellow jiu-jitsuteiro have a motorcycle channel!
lol thanks!
Your videos are great! Thank you!
You're very welcome Vedran...please share with others!
Many thanks for this video. Especially the tip at the end about adjusting the shock absorber preload. Makes perfect sense but I never thought of it. And the dealer that I went to to install the passenger pegs never mentioned it. Turns out it's a simple diy adjustment on my bike. There's even a wrench for it under the seat.
You’re welcome!
Very thorough, thanks alot been looking for a good pillion passenger video
You're welcome!
Really good advice. Thanks. You could have saved me and my passenger's life.
just seeing this video, today i had to make some exercise with passenger, some affraid guy and he messed me up with his jumpscares on every corner, could not understand, that he must stay still and leave it to me.
Great video on this thematic, congratz!
Great info, keep sharing your knowledge of riding 👍
Carl G. Thanks!
very informative and well put together!
Thanks!
Thanks for your great content, have learnt so much.
Got a bigger bike and girlfriend wanted to go for a ride, I was like, no. You don't have full gear and I'm not yet at level where I feel safe having you on extra.
She did not understand till I sent her some of your videos...
There's always another day to go for a ride.
Really well explained mate. Awesome stuff!
Thanks!
Lots of good points. Good video. Is that the sports arena in the background? Been a long time since I was in SD. Greeting from Genoa Italy
Great advice, as always. I never carry passengers for those reasons. I replaced the rear seat with an optional cover on my last bike.
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Love you Moto. The whole thing with riding a bike is "IF". He states it perfectly at the beginning of the vid. If anything EVER happens you can likely walk away if you are wearing gear.
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well said. straight to the point. I agree with everything you said.
1weedcookie Sweet!
I really like that load compensating suspension. Plus with todays helmet communications add ons, your passenger can be your spotter. Four eyes are better than two, even more important two brains are better than one! That is if your passenger even cares. I've had both kinds. Nice incites on the topic! Thank you for passing on your experience. Ultimately if I was involved with someone the goal would be for them to have a bike of their own. Imagine practicing all the drills either following closely or being followed. Would make for some very impressed folks at gatherings and rides.
Neat ideas!
Love it, thanks :) The only thing I do differently to what you said is that no one mounts or dismounts without my instruction, and all the instructions I give them for riding with me are given before they mount :)
You're welcome!
Love your vids broh! Learning a lot.
Thanks!!
Hi! Good tips. Getting your suspension set up professionally for 2 up riding along with having fresh fork oil , rear shock serviced. By the tuner given info from you can set it up almost spot on. In my case I required a heavier spring on the rear shock. ( Kawasaki Concours 14 ).
The ride after that was money well spent. I call my gf “ The corner queen “ cause she loves the lean angle, lol!
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Ammm... I’m porcentually positive u r a good, unintentionally tactless utuber that don’t know where the balance of tone of voice and feeling a roockie biker is. More about being a biker is the absolute best means of transportation, and brace for the impact cause it does require preparation. Thanks for the video. Rock on!!!
thanks!
I know this is a 3 year old video but the advice is so relevant even today. I work as a car/motorcycle instructor in sweden at a driving school and when it comes to new riders, we make them give us rides in low speeds (parking lots etc) until they are comfortable in doing so because i believe they themselves will be a better rider while going solo from it.
advice doesn't go bad like bananas. :)
Very well done!
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video, you make a lot of good points. One thing that I would like to add, that I have had save me a tip over a number of times, is to drop the kick stand down while a passenger is loading and unloading. Of course the bike is upright, but the side stand will serve as a safety should you passenger board wildly unbalanced, or your left foot slips on any loose stuff. I have all of my passengers ask me "Clear?" and wait for me to respond "Clear" before they board.
Sure, if it works for you...but I rather have it up so I don't have to take one foot off the ground in order to take off.
Thanks for the excellent video!
David Hinzman You’re welcome!
Good video!! Thank you!!
Thank you too!
Very helpful and professional video. Thanks!
You're very welcome!
Excellent informational video!
Very Nice vídeo! Thanks and keep doing it
Thank you!!
awsome guide video helps me allot i gonne practice next weekend with a girl thumbs up greets from netherland
You're very welcome!
Thanks for sharing. As a passenger I will take your advice.
Great Video. Thank you Eddie.
Thanks Danny! Share with others please if you think someone you know can benefit!
Another thing I always tell my passenger before riding: "Keep your feet on the pegs AT ALL TIMES. If you need to stretch your legs, wait until we stop at a red light and ask me first." If you don't, some passengers have a tendency to stretch out their legs while you're moving, and that's not good!
Smart
What a Great informative video. I will definitely watch this video a few more times before I even start to take a passenger with me. At 57 I'm a brand spanking new rider. I learn more from watching your videos than anyone else. Could you please advise me on what would be a better helmet:
Full face?
Or
Modular?
Thank you
Love your suspension. I have a wrench for mine that I have to use when I ride with my wife. She just started riding with me and wow it was way different than I thought it would be. We mostly just rode around neighborhoods to practice
:) smart!
Great job, keep up the good work.
Thank you so much!
Great advice. Many other vids recommending the passenger shift weight with the rider, which I disagree with as well regardless of passenger experience. A stationary or neutral passenger is much more predictable than assuming your lean angles will be synced.
If the passenger remains still....there’s no issue. I’ve taken hundreds before, even on the track :) never had any issue :)
As all your videos, this is another great one to add to my list of favorites videos, thanks for sharing. Love your BMW GS, what year model is it? Thanks!!!
thanks! 1200 GS, 2016 model.
Did you see this yet? th-cam.com/video/7RA3NSoOfto/w-d-xo.html
Very informative, im just starting to drive motorcycles but i always take into account the pillions safety, no reckless driving to impress. We get in we get out
Thanks :)
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Very good advice thank you
kingbullykutta thanks 😁👊🏼