How to Sound Like NPR Tiny Desk

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  • @tinybobboilen
    @tinybobboilen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5459

    Hi, Bob Boilen here. I'm the creator of Tiny Desk concerts. I love what you did here and appreciate your appreciation of the Tiny Desk sound. I won’t go into details on what you came up with other than to say you did a great job. You should see a Tiny Desk concert sometime. Given all you did here, you’d appreciate it immensely. The one thing I would critique that is vital to the Tiny Desk and an important part of my philosophy for these concerts is this: no headphones or monitors. The singer sings in the room without any amplification. Since there are also no monitors, everyone has to play at a volume that allows them to hear the singer and also every other instrument. So, in essence, the band is ‘self-mixing.’ That makes the performance unique, as well as the recording techniques.

    • @taylorjohncrawford
      @taylorjohncrawford 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

      Bob!! Can’t believe you took the time to watch. I’m the singer from this and just want to honor Ricky as well as the amazing musicians here. Thanks so much for listening and can’t wait to see you there ;)

    • @GTORT
      @GTORT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      So why have microphones? For the feeling from both audience and artist perspective?

    • @djflipside33
      @djflipside33 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +306

      @@GTORTmicrophones to record the audio. Not to amplify.

    • @brotherbear808
      @brotherbear808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The man himself!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +677

      Woa, Hi Bob its an honor! Means a lot that you took the time to out the vid! I would LOVE to check out a Tiny Desk show in person if I ever get the chance :)
      Totally heard on the monitoring, sounds like that would have solved some of my issues with regulating dynamics. Transparently, this was actually more of a video move than an audio one. I only have one camera and wanted to make a multicam edit. To do this I had them listen to a click, then shot 5 different takes/cam angles. Because they had a click I could sync up the timing of each shot in post. The audio you’re hearing is the final take :)
      Looking back, perhaps I should have just been fine with a single wide shot and left it unmonitored, noted for next time 🫡 and thanks again for checking the vid out!

  • @SOUNDINTHECITY
    @SOUNDINTHECITY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +272

    If I remember correctly the guy in charge of Tiny Desks recordings did an AMA on Reddit with a list of equipment.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Oh Ince I'll check it out! I may have come across that in some of my research, I can't recall :)

    • @boimesa8190
      @boimesa8190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Link please 🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @LieuNoir
      @LieuNoir 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boimesa8190 I will try to post the link but usually they are rejected by youtube.
      --> just search "Tiny Desks recordings did an AMA" in google, it's the first answer. 😀

    • @halcyonacoustic7366
      @halcyonacoustic7366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@boimesa8190search "Bob boilen ama reddit" can't post links here.

  • @MattyWhens
    @MattyWhens 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +935

    Tiny Desk is the Unplugged of the 21st century. I love it so much. Thanks for this!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      So true, never heard it put like that but that is so accurate :)

    • @SamuelKiddMusic
      @SamuelKiddMusic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts@@AudioHaze

    • @gerardomoreno8832
      @gerardomoreno8832 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was just thinking about this recently. Was talking to a friend “tiny desk or unplugged”

  • @wildhorse4262
    @wildhorse4262 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +421

    this is probably the best audio production channel on youtube at this point

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      This is ridiculously mind blowing to hear wow thank you SO much. Absolutely honored!

    • @GuitarSlayer136
      @GuitarSlayer136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@AudioHazeAbsolutely accurate honestly. Its tight competition but goddamn dude.

  • @davidrick959
    @davidrick959 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    Some good observations here. I was present when Josh Rogosin gave a talk at the Audio Engineering Society convention in NYC last fall. One thing I walked away with was how active he was being in managing the bleed from all those microphones. While Josh may use a lot of instrument spots when recording a large ensemble, when he showed his DAW session on the screen, it was clear that the majority of those mics were muted most of the time. Spot mics were unmuted only at specific points in the song where they were needed to highlight something. When unmuted, they were often heavily EQ'd to add only exactly what was needed to the mix and to keep unwanted bleed under control. Josh usually has some kind of ambience feed available -- sometimes just a more distant stereo mic -- but he doesn't use it continually in the mix. It might be faded up in the spaces (another production nod to field reporting) or used for a more distant perspective on a horn section, but it's not the sole source of ambience in the final mix. There are always those stereo mics, but Josh is also not afraid to use artificial reverb plug ins. The end result FEELS like intimate live capture, but what's really going on here is storytelling and, in service of that story, no post-production trick is off the table.

    • @HermelJaworski
      @HermelJaworski 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      very interesting approach!

    • @beatz04
      @beatz04 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sounds more realistic than "Just a few mics and that's it" 🙂

    • @globalsoundconcerts
      @globalsoundconcerts 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      exactly!

  • @davidmcgirr
    @davidmcgirr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    I don't perform live or play well, or even really use mics, mostly a daw based electronic artist, but 'Emotional mixing decisions' is a fantastic concept that's going in the toolkit.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yay glad I could spark some Inso in a small way!

  • @AudioHaze
    @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    If you guys haven't heard of the Technical Director Josh Rogosin and his approach to Tiny Desk, definitely check out this article! www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2020/04/02/825152850/tiny-tech-tips-recording-your-tiny-desk-contest-entry-at-home

  • @campfire2953
    @campfire2953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I run a small recording studio on my college's campus out of an old radio station's building, and I've been looking for how to up my "live recording" vibe for a couple of months now as work has picked up. I can't even begin to say how valuable the past 20 minutes I just spent watching this video will be to me moving forward. I'm already itching to try so much of this out.

    • @veerdotmp3
      @veerdotmp3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the best!

    • @jimmyshenmusic
      @jimmyshenmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@veerdotmp3 Could you share the outcomes? Thank you!

  • @official.suburbia
    @official.suburbia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Unbelievable recreation. Sounds exactly like the NPR Edition. Amazing performances too..
    We’ve been working with Ricky for the last few months on our debut EP. He’s been amazing to work with and his attention to detail is second to none.. send him those demos, you won’t regret it😅

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      EYYYYY MY BOYYYSSSS

  • @madsenamplification
    @madsenamplification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I love tiny desk, and this channel. I would have never thought to break down the tiny desk production but this is fantastic. Reminds me of all the reasons I love folk and jazz recordings where all the people are in the room together with out headphones and they’re listening to each other and having a musical conversation.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Someone else in the comments said its like the modern version of the MTV unplugged series and that is SO accurate to me

    • @madsenamplification
      @madsenamplification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AudioHaze for sure, that makes a lot of sense!

  • @neilsmith5464
    @neilsmith5464 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    yes yes yes. Knocking it out of the park. Practical, informative, illustrative and lessons learnt. These must take an age to put together - but I'm sure I speak for many when I say, I'd much rather you continued this course than go down the clickbait "my top 5 EQs", "I've hade enough" titles. thank you.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks Neil! Yeah this one was an intense one to put together, got even more crazy ones on the way :) No "top 5 EQs" here, wouldn't even know how to rank something like that hahaha

  • @Volitudo
    @Volitudo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    in a few minutes I know this is a high quality, well written, well researched and additionally amazing visual aide. Props to everyone who worked on this video. Followed this channel back in the microphone comparison videos, and great to see more of docu-esque type videos now. This channel needs more recognition!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thanks so much man!! Its just two of us here, and the amount of hours we both put in is crazy, this is super validating to hear :)

  • @mypal1990
    @mypal1990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    For a tiny desk, the sound quality is amazing. Tpains tiny desk concert is such an example.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I haven't checked that one out! I will now :) I remember his cover of Black Sabbath was insane lol

    • @AfferbeckBeats
      @AfferbeckBeats 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love Anderson Paak's tiny desk, that was one of the first things I saw of him and I was disappointed by his studio stuff because the tiny desk was such a better sound and vibe for him

    • @VOByRobbins
      @VOByRobbins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out Lake Street Dive too!! Yes that Tpain is unreal! -- so many to choose from!

  • @rct3nut74
    @rct3nut74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Malcolm's tiny desk performance makes me so sad and happy, he's gone but his music lives on. I'll raise my kids listening to Mac Miller. It's so genuine, he laughs and jokes but you can tell he's nervous, and the chemistry between Thundetcat and Malcolm, not just musically, warms your heart. rip Malcom McCormick, hug your loved ones

  • @EnginearAudio
    @EnginearAudio 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    @AudioHaze, you don't need a shotgun added to your OC818 to get a MID-SIDE signal! Your OC818 can do a "pseudo m/s" signal alone!! You need to connect the included mini XLR cable on its back so you get two outputs from the mic and have it sideways pointed to the band and use the free (inlcuded) AA Stereo Creator plugin to obtain pseudoM/S signal from just one mic. I believe that nowadays the NPR sound is heavily dependent on the Neumann KU-100 (Dummy head) also, that replaced the original MKH 418s (MID-SIDE Shotgun) for the overall ambience duties. As far as i understand, the 418s was used on the ceiling as an overall band /ambience mic and for spot miking on vocals, they use Sennheiser 416, which are regular shotgun mics with high side-rejection in order to block drums and other loud acoustic instruments placed around the drums, that's why they are pointed up to the vocalists' mouths. I dont believe they never used a 418s for vocals, which doesn't make any sense for that application unless your use the Mid channel only. Important to mention is that the ceiling tiles seem to be pretty absorbent, which help the room acoustics to some degree. Great technique! Thanks for the video!

  • @carterleynes6380
    @carterleynes6380 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I noticed recent recording have been very heavy on bass. I noted this in a couple of comments then all of a sudden the balance got better again. You are welcome everybody.

  • @Area51Resort
    @Area51Resort 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You are absolutely on the right track (no pun intended) with doing the forensic videos. They are great as well as being a great inspiration. And this video is amazing. What a performance and what a great band! Well done to one and all including your production team! Keep up the great work, you now have one of the best and most important channels on TH-cam!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MOST IMPORTANT?? Holy cow thank you! Those are big words, can't thank you enough wow

  • @longwelsh
    @longwelsh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I find it largely depends on the performers positioning. Radio sessions where everyone is standing in the round facing each other I find less use for MS, especially if it’s being filmed as they won’t have a consistent ‘viewer aspect’ kind of like crossing the line in an interview. TinyDesk style where the lead artist is at the front facing the crowd with the rest of the band generally behind them that MS can really shine and gives you a really nice guide to where the spot mics need to be panned. A Goniometer meter really helps with setting up MS and lets you see when there’s excess bass on one side of fig8 element, which isn’t always immediately audible monitoring during setup or tracking.
    If I ended up in a really small studio I would often try to open up the door to the gallery or corridor. Anything to increase air volume.
    Really enjoy the channel, great work.

  • @Blynken
    @Blynken 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That piano sound was incredible, wow.
    Have you ever seen any "Take Away Shows" from La Blogothèque? Most are recorded outside on the streets with few (if any) visible mics. They sound so up close and personal and the bits of ambient environmental noise is such a vibe. I've been dying to know how they're recorded and mixed for so long, I think it'd be a super interesting project to tackle for you!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll take a look! Never heard of that act before :)

    • @ToniDelgadoAbellan
      @ToniDelgadoAbellan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aaay Blogotheque was the 2000s tiny desk. Iconic Phoenix

  • @AlexOnThePianoD
    @AlexOnThePianoD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love the way the editing on this matches the tiny desk theme. And also the inclusion of cheaper mic options for a more affordable budget:) great video once again!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man!! Yeah we're trying to make each graphic theme specific to the topic we're discussing. I did that a little in the past but never fully committed to the graphic language, going all in this time!

  • @andrefludd
    @andrefludd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video is one of the best things about production I've ever seen. I'm floored by the quality and the useful information. Going to be coming back to the video a lot in the future.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude I'm so honored thank you!! Hope you're doing well and let's get coffee sometime!!!

  • @Cas-o-wary
    @Cas-o-wary 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your channel might be my favourite on YT right now. I’m learning so much and the quality and dedication for these videos is insane. I would love to see a video on Parcels in the future. Especially on their live vol. 1 recording.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks os much dude! I'm incredibly honored, still surreal to think I could be someones favorite channel lol. I'll check out Parcels!

  • @CED.Dweller
    @CED.Dweller 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    WHOA...nailed it! This sounds so great. Nice work taming the drums in the mid/side vocal mic input, too.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks man! Yeah that was a big challenge, all of the mixing was basically trying to cut top end out of the drums in the M/S mic lol

    • @PaarthGuptaYT
      @PaarthGuptaYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @CED.Dweller I had the same thoughts! When I first heard the recording, I was like, “WHOAH. That is basically THE SAME as the Tiny Desk audio characteristics.” Very well done @AudioHaze and team!

  • @Uninterested69420
    @Uninterested69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dude im in my 3rd year of sound engineering right now and ive gotta say your videos are brilliant!
    So underated ive been showing them to all of my friends! Im currently working on my final project, and im gonna use a lot of the techniques you've spoken about on an album!

  • @LouieTaylorMusic
    @LouieTaylorMusic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been watching your channel for a while and it's so cool to see you blow up. You seem to have a knack for making the exact videos I've been wanting to watch without me even realising until you've made it!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks Louie! And thank you for sticking around as long as you have :)

  • @beaneuh
    @beaneuh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    every time im wondering how a sound or effect is made you just manage to drop a video on that exact subject, you are such an amazing producer and person! i cant thank u enough for making music producing accessible to all :)

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eyyyy well glad I came in at the right time! Thanks so much my friend :)

  • @Sosq69
    @Sosq69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    You should totally do king krule !

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I haven't heard too much of King Krule but I'll check it out!

    • @JoaoBatista-do7fm
      @JoaoBatista-do7fm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please make a video of king krule tiny desk performance
      @@AudioHaze

    • @carsonk6288
      @carsonk6288 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES PLS

  • @gabrielrojasg.3180
    @gabrielrojasg.3180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a killer pianist

    • @owynn7137
      @owynn7137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh stop it you ;)

  • @aaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @aaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a theory i accidentally found on an online forum from 2012 that Heil mics, american company, who makes only expensive high end mics are actually chinese OEM mics. If you google it there pictures of chinese or japanese mics that look the same as PR35 (and other models) externally and internally. What I didnt find is anyone comparing them. I find it a very interesting true crime unsolved mystery.

  • @emj-music
    @emj-music 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    josh rogosin himself gave props to this vid on his fb page!! loving the attention this vid is getting - the tiny desk sound is 100% something i’m always looking to recreate in my mixes.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's crazy!! I just saw the post because of this comment, so surreal

    • @emj-music
      @emj-music 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AudioHazecongrats man!! keep makin the good stuff!!

  • @aaronleung8809
    @aaronleung8809 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Again the best audio channel on TH-cam. You single handedly help me reinvest my time into audio and I will try hard to break into audio industry to be an engineer.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much Aaron, good luck on breaking into the industry dude! There's so many different winding paths to get there, find the way that feels most comfortable to you :)

  • @Ted_Swayinghill
    @Ted_Swayinghill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tiny desk is magical to me because they’re focused on capturing the energy of the room as you mentioned
    Now a days there isn’t a lot of that. The room mic might be blended to add depth but not to capture the energy/vibe of a room.
    I love you talked about this! I’m subbing!

  • @lifelover1605
    @lifelover1605 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You're such a legend...your content is so captivating. Thanks a million for your passion and what you bring to this space.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man, glad you enjoy the vids! Hope they're helpful in some way :)

  • @jonesvox1
    @jonesvox1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been a live musician and live sound engineer for many years…..DRUMS are always an issue. Despite your accidental close placement of the kit and vocalist you captured a decent mix. The observation I have is that the band, who are great soloists, are not used to this amount of restraint dynamically, and this performance demonstrates that. Again, the drums become the sonic obstacle that every other player ends up competing with and the overall performance lacks any dynamics. Not being critical of their musical talent, but their ability to “self-mix,” as Bob B. even pointed out in the comments. The headphone monitors likely were a huge part of why this experiment was less than perfect. The performers all had a mix that was completely different than the room capture and left for an “every man for himself” performance.
    Great job and appreciation for the format, regardless of any critique.

  • @MustafaShaheen
    @MustafaShaheen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your diligence and commitment to detail is fantastic to see in every vid. Your incoming NY clients are lucky. Good luck!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Mustafa! Such kind words, very motivating too!

  • @dylanrabe
    @dylanrabe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not trying to nit pick an overall super informative video, but having the players wear headphones to presumably monitor themselves kinda goes against one of the key elements of the tiny desk sound. There ARE no monitors/amplified vocals, which adds to that super intimate, hushed sound. Doing it this way would also prevent stuff like the drummer playing too loud. Anyway, great video and I’m definitely going to take the mixing advice to heart when finishing my band’s tiny desk concert submission this week!

  • @EthanAntalosky
    @EthanAntalosky 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would love to see a video on how big tours (era’s tour, love on tour, Still at their very best, etc) run their sound in context with backing tracks, click tracks, live talk back with crew, and how one member of the band controls the whole show and switches and initiates every guitar patch, keyboard patch, backing track with the click of one button in tandem with lighting and video projections.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a cool vid idea!! Maybe some time when I have a higher budget for vids that could be a cool high production series…

  • @tristanwehner40
    @tristanwehner40 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, your Videos are by far my favorite thing on TH-cam right now.
    Besides your great work you seem to be such a nice and genuine guy
    Keep it up!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Tristan! That means a lot, the amount of hours for these vids can be pretty insane so comments like these def keep me going :) Honored, thanks again dude!

  • @AMTunLimited
    @AMTunLimited 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NPR Tiny Desks have always had this amazing feeling of both being immersively in the room and also very very clean.
    I don't think I listen to NPR tiny Desks with headphones very often, I wonder how much stereo imaging they do (edit: ayyyyyyyyye)

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah they have a very specific panning style! Love it too, it feels very genuine and feeds into the transparent EQ'ing they do very well too

  • @lolybube
    @lolybube 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video!!! I love that you now take your time to make one GREAT video rather than sticking to a time schedule and beeing stressed to put out a video at that specific time. Can't wait for the next one.
    It's also so sad I don't live in NYC because I'd love to work with you in person but unfortunately I live in Germany :(
    Anyways I love your new approach to your videos and I can't wait to see the one you're propably working on right now.
    Please keep these great videos coming. I know it's a lot of effort you put in these but it's definately woth it.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! Yeah its funny because these style of videos require the same amount of hours as posting weekly lol, they just have longer production times to make

  • @MFSHARTY
    @MFSHARTY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is how i recorded one of my songs back when i had my band. It is the best way to record, ever

  • @jacob_zang
    @jacob_zang 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tiny desk concerts are so well received because it’s simply organic. As fun as crazy sounding mixes are, nothing is more timeless than a great band playing great music, in front of a great audience, recorded by an audio engineer who knows how to capture it. Same principle goes for over processing the mix- just because you can, doesn’t mean you should

  • @ProAudioIQ
    @ProAudioIQ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video! I love your channel and it’s awesome to see the growth. Just a courtesy side note, and probably just a mis-speak… Speakers being neutral/flat does not mean that the mix will be neutral. Anything coming from the monitors is going to interact acoustically with the room to a certain degree and that interaction can override constructively and/or destructively with any capabilities the monitors have. I presume it was just a mis-speak because based on some of your other videos, you seem to be fully aware of this. Just wanting to make sure viewers don’t think that buying neutral monitors will mean their mixes will magically be neutral.
    Definitely helps to eliminate as many stumbling blocks as possible and having neutral monitors definitely aids in that but learning your room and your monitors of whatever type they are will have a greater impact on how well the mix translates than any specific type or brand of equipment.
    I also appreciate three-way speakers, but it’s not having three-way speakers that guarantee the specs stated. I’m using two-speaker bi-amped monitors that have very high-end comparable performance to what you used. It’s all in the design.
    Absolutely a fan of your channel which is why I am taking time to make this comment.
    Kudos to NPR tiny desk concerts consistently giving us access to artists and their music in a way no one else ever has!

  • @modulated_
    @modulated_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really enjoyed how you look at this practically using what was available to you (and suggesting affordable alternatives) vs. this being all about using an expensive ass mic to try and just copy that sound. this mix sounds great for what it is - true to form in doing as little as possible to change the original sound. also great timing as i was just watching an npr video the other day marveling over the sound quality haha. great video!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Jack! Yeah although I was considering the sennheiser mic I really didn't want to blow that much change and it ended up being more useful to do a DIY solution anyhow :)

  • @nicoloscozzari6205
    @nicoloscozzari6205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Helluva performance you captured here man. The good vibes and loosey gooseyness is all their. More than the mics and technique you seem to have created a wonderful experience for the band without a live audience. Don't get me wrong all the technical goodness is there I just wanted to point out how great a time it seems the band is having. Also love that you're in super holey jeans. Always wear my well-worn stuff for sessions 👌🏼

  • @MaineMountainMedia
    @MaineMountainMedia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TH-cam already suggests your stuff so much I didn't realize I wasn't subscribed until now (better late than never I suppose). You've got an awesome channel here and I appreciate everything you're doing. Keep up the great work!

  • @pedrovictor4256
    @pedrovictor4256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these tiny mics that they use to mic the violins and the acoustic guitars, are the DPA 4097 and the 4099

  • @SeanofAllTrades
    @SeanofAllTrades 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so glad Kali is a sponsor. Best money I've ever spent on my mixing setup. Highly highly recommend them to anyone.

  • @paulwood4142
    @paulwood4142 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pressing the record button always summons a loud truck or other such vehicle where I'm at. Glad it's not just me lol

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yeah, Brooklyn is the worst at that lol, idk if its just a mind game and you only notice when you hit record. But it feels like the city is out to get you lol

  • @robwebb9413
    @robwebb9413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is always so much value in these kinds of videos. I was so inspired by that sound, it frees me to think more organically about the feel of the song, then necessarily the scientific approach of mixing. I didn't say that very well but, great job and thank you!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No that's totally the NPR approach though! The mixing always serves the overall artistic vision, tries to represent it as accurately as possible

  • @anguslavy9521
    @anguslavy9521 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That bass players wild man

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yesss Greg's a beastttt

  • @PandaBear-c6u
    @PandaBear-c6u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that piano sound is gorgeous!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks! Yeah those little Lewitt's really pulled a lot of weight :)

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This two interface design is pretty common in many of the live gigs I've done. Often you'll have a mixer to handle the various drum mics, build a drum mix from those and then send it to the main desk.

  • @embodme
    @embodme 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video as always !
    You should do the KEXP too! Those live recordings are amazing!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeahhhh lots of people seem to be into that idea! I'll look into it :)

  • @elsongs
    @elsongs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, thanks for this, I had no idea they were using stereo mics. And great performance from your guest artist. Aside from the drum/vocal thing you pointed out, the bass was a hair too loud, but otherwise it sounded great. I hope more artists get to do this kind of thing, not just for videos or livestreams, but just recordings in general. it's a breath of fresh air from the squishy Loudness Wars recordings that are the norm these days.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man! Yeah its so cool to hear artists in such a stripped down context, and the EQ'ing is deceptively tricky sometimes! :)

  • @Befffy
    @Befffy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What’s the best tiny desk to buy.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The one that makes you feel the warmest and the fuzziest

  • @JackDenning
    @JackDenning 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You inspired me to change out my U87 for a Beta SM57a for my vocals. Kid you not, it solved all 5 of my long-time recording issues in the same day. Thank you & great job on this!

    • @JackDenning
      @JackDenning 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @AudioHaze I saw you asked what kind of vocals - If you need a good isolated pop vocal. DUDE. The Shure Beta SM57a is perfect. Its eq is lightens up the low-mids, it's detailed but not too sensitive, warm, present, & tamed in the high end. Super cardioid so it rejects the room for you. Plus it's $140 bucks! tough as nails and portable. - I've been soul searching for the right mic for a couple years... can't see myself ever touching an SM7b or U87 again. I think this is what indie artists are going for when they buy the SM7b. - HIGHLY recommend for artists who are tired of struggling to get good recordings in noisy apartments.

  • @jasonjacoby9110
    @jasonjacoby9110 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Subtractive eq is the "secret sauce" that every audio engineer should know. Room mics are great, just watch out for phase. Nice video.

  • @carlos_garcia_2003
    @carlos_garcia_2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently discovered your channel and it's one of the best things has happened to me, cause it helped me to know what mic i should buy to work on my album

  • @kristinagugova2335
    @kristinagugova2335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I literally NEVER comment TH-cam videos, but now i just have to. This channel is a gem, i am just starting my music production journey and you are such an inspiration and help. Working on my first remix rn - Movement song using your stems! Thanks a lot. ☺️

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AHH tank you smooch Kristina, glad I could help in some way. You HAVE to email me that remix I'm so interested to hear :)

  • @nbl95
    @nbl95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The shotgun mics are more sensitive than dynamic mics, but they're also far more directional- something like a super-cardioid pickup pattern as opposed to an sm58's regular cardioid pattern. Meaning while they're more sensitive- they'll actually have far stronger sound rejection than the dynamics- leading to a more isolated sound for each instrument, not an increase in bleed.

  • @PetfaxTV
    @PetfaxTV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel deserves a mil

  • @atleengelstad5303
    @atleengelstad5303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing that I noticed different from the tiny desk performances, was that this band all had headphones on them....., in a "live" situation, this is not optional...., and can subtract from the performance...., so please do this again, and bring some more acoustic instruments in, and balance the sound in the room, so that everybody plays on each other, WITHOUT the headphones.... I think this will make a better dynamic performance....AH...saw just now that tinybobboilen have commented on the exact same thing....!
    Great video BTW!

  • @hernannieto1
    @hernannieto1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude amazing job here! Just wanted to point out something that may add up a little bit: the "mixing as you would see it live " concept... I think it would work better if all the image shots were taken from the front, pointing at the band from the audience pov, if the camera man moves between the musicians suddenly that spacial thing gets lost in the image reference. But still, this is amazing, very well done.

  • @ericepperson8409
    @ericepperson8409 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tiny Desk is one of my favorite means to find performers that aren't what I would normally listen. For example, the Caroline Polachek TD blew me away and made me realize her sound is not Auto Tuned like I would assume just casually listening to her produced tracks. As an aside the YT comments on that video are really interesting bc of the amount of speculation that Caroline was using technical tricks to trigger some live mixing to get the auto tune sound. But as it's pointed out here - they are using NPRs equipment and mixing. She has no control over that aspect of the performance. I spoke with a friend who's a trained musician and amateur audio mixer who explained that sound is an application of the same techniques used in yodeling. It's truly a reflection on the musical ability of the performers.

  • @izzymartay
    @izzymartay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    incredible video thank you for putting so much effort not only into the audio side but the video side aswell. i get so excited when you upload!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Izzy!! Yeah we get really into the graphics, I guess its my old degree coming out in some ways lol

  • @aidenwilliams5487
    @aidenwilliams5487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MOST excellent as always. Very cool to see the setup (left to right) breakdown of the player placements and how it affected the recording. Taylor Crawford and crew killing it as always on Comfort Zone.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      THANKS AIDEN MY BOY

  • @Jawmsie
    @Jawmsie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I love the way you always make sure to give props to the folks you work with. If ANYTHING you do on this channel shows that you're a pro, it's that.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh OF COURSE! A couple times I've forgotten and I feel bad about it for the rest of the day lol

    • @Jawmsie
      @Jawmsie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Side-note, I've been thinking about bringing a local punk group into a studio for an off-the-floor record for a while now. Obviously, that production will prioritize very different things, but this made me wonder why I haven't done it yet. Cheers, dude!

  • @Diademnever
    @Diademnever 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    do remember: THESE ARE PRO MUSICIANS. thats almost 70% of the contributed sound quality.

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course. One of my friends can't even keep his timing on guitars 😭

  • @TiqueO6
    @TiqueO6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was really wonderful to hear Bob Boilen's comment on no monitors or headphones to self mix , whenever possible I like to use my Bose S1 system two PA system behind the band so they can hear what the audience is hearing and mix themselves without monitors. When it works everybody's happy.

  • @KaiOfAspen
    @KaiOfAspen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro never misses! ur vids are always so good to study but also to just listen to passively. great performance here as well!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much Kai!!

  • @acousticsessionsla
    @acousticsessionsla 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We do these sessions all the time. Loud drummers are my pet peeve lol. It’s super important for the band to control dynamics and “mix themselves” in environments like these. Bleed is ok, but waaay too many times we ended up with super loud snares on the vocal track, so placement is key. Sick video and great work! 🤘🏼

  • @goticopostrauma
    @goticopostrauma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been waiting so long for this episode, thanks man! On of the best channel on youtube!

  • @Spares-f4z
    @Spares-f4z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I literaly use your videos to get hyped about music sessions

  • @JosephGallagher
    @JosephGallagher 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy cow, I need more mics... and also to cram all my friends into my room while recording LOL. Great video as always :)

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      HAHA use whatever you have!! Even some cheap MXL or Behringer mics could get you there (or at least close)

  • @didgegirl6
    @didgegirl6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you sooooo much for this. I've learned so much from your channel. Thank you thank you thank you for everything you do!!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm honored dude! That's always the goal, incredibly humbled to have helped in some way :)

  • @lupit1
    @lupit1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video, i’ve always been really envious of the vocal production in the tiny desk performances. This gave a bit of insight on what i can mess around with.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LUPITTTTTT, yeah the vocal production seems relatively straightforward. Mostly just carefully managed EQ cuts

  • @CamKnoppMusic
    @CamKnoppMusic หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of work you put into this is insane. Just amazing quality information, this is better quality than a paid college course...

  • @jordanhal2814
    @jordanhal2814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy crap, Batman! This is so well thought out and presented. New subscriber here immediately after watching this video, the first of yours that popped into my feed. Big fan!

  • @JaedenBass
    @JaedenBass 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genuinely one of the coolest music channels on youtube. I love what you do man, your ideas are so creative and the results are always outstanding.

  • @johnbhumphrey
    @johnbhumphrey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job and great channel, your content is down to earth, basic information that gets to the point without all the needless bells and whistles most audio production channels have.

  • @comfy39
    @comfy39 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Catching your community post about the thumbnail then seeing that thumbnail in my subscriptions made me much more likely to click this video. It is also one of the most interesting concepts that you've covered lately, too. Idk anything about being a content creator but hope this feedback helps. Good video!✌

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Its honestly just easier than trying to guess which thumbnail will have the best click through rate, but I guess in some ways it works as a good promo tool too you're so right

  • @atalanda
    @atalanda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so cool. I've been a huge fan of tiny desk for as long as I can remember, and I love that unique sound of the concerts. Thank you for this!

  • @VOByRobbins
    @VOByRobbins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad to hear you cover this, I've been commenting on their videos about the SQ for years!!!! Love the quality, truly the best! Awesome video! every video is a master class of recording, and you did it! Thank you!

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely love this style and this was such a fun video to watch. Especially since it's so obvious the people in that room were having FUN with eachother and with the music. And that is awesome.
    Basically the only thing that bothered me about the mix is I had a really hard time hearing the guitar at all. I was actually straining my ears and brain trying to pick it out. I feel like that would be a place I'd have welcomed some accentuation.
    In every other way I loved this and think I actually discovered something totally new. It's like the perfect combination between a live and a studio recording. Live recordings can often either have pretty terrible audio quality, OR they might not sound like what they look like on the video. On the other hand, studio recordings can easily betray that the musicians weren't really hearing eachother, and that their sound was modified quite a lot. As a result they can end up kind of too perfect: Spatial cues are missing, everyone's in too good of a tune, there's no tempo drift, no mistakes, etc.
    This style is somewhere between those. It feels almost like you're actually there in a live situation: You can hear what you see (spatial cues), the artists are responding naturally to eachother (playing together), there's some variation and "imperfections" (maybe a missed note there, an out of tune one there, a bit of tempo drift). Yet it has the sound quality that also makes it pleasurable to listen: No excessive noise, no missing frequencies, vocals are present all of the time (not cut out because the singer went too far from the well-cancelling dynamic mic), and so on.
    It's like... A normal concert recording can be "natural, but sometimes not good", a studio recording can be "good, but sometimes not natural", but this style is both natural and good.
    And I guess that's why I was bothered by the guitar being almost inaudible. It sort of breaks the immersion when you can see the guitar being played like mad but can't really hear it. I guess that's where I would argue it would be better to stray from the "entirely natural" focus and bring the guitar up, so that it matches what you think you'd be hearing a bit better.
    But all in all, a fantastic video and I'm super grateful!
    (Note: It could be just my particular ears and my particular brain that has this guitar audibility problem and everyone else is hearing it perfect. Dunno. Listened on AKG Q701 headphones.)

  • @ilyaanisimov4862
    @ilyaanisimov4862 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dude i just love so much what you do, waiting for the next video all the time. It is so special and amazing, just thank god you are there, keep doing it, i'm so greatful! You're the best!!!

  • @noahpauley
    @noahpauley 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was doing tracking for a song yesterday and tried a one mic set up for the first time for vocals and acoustic. Came out really great and just showed me that I need to be more creative and simple with my recording. I only own 2 audio technica AT2020s so doing a two mic set up is hard to not get bleed since they're condensors.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah sometimes there's beauty in just placing one condenser a bit far away and just catching a great mono take! We do it all the time with my Clarion.

  • @97mrmarioman
    @97mrmarioman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this series! In the future would love to see a “How To Sound like D’angelo” always loved the mixing and sound from his albums

  • @ChrisJacobs-gy9en
    @ChrisJacobs-gy9en 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's been my goal for a year or so to able record my band Tiny Desk style, this is a gift. Thank you!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DUDE that's amazing, good luck!!

  • @The_paradox_of_Youth
    @The_paradox_of_Youth 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost want to unsubscribe just soni can subscribe again. Love watching your growth, as well as learning, and being inspired by you and your incredibly solid team. As always, respect 👊🏼

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      HAHAHA you had me in the first half of this sentence ngl lol

  • @Riandigo
    @Riandigo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very awesome video man, truly enjoyed the structure of the video and the way you go through every last detail. Personally have been trying to learn how to work with sound and such so this video definitely helped give me a better understanding of what I need to know.

  • @gabrielochoadezabalegui8984
    @gabrielochoadezabalegui8984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great, it could become a series on how some artists record their performances! Would love to see one on how Dijon records

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what it is actually! We have a handful of other artist performances we've analyzed :)

    • @gabrielochoadezabalegui8984
      @gabrielochoadezabalegui8984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AudioHaze Dope! I'll have to watch the rest then!

  • @daniele3452
    @daniele3452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautifull, thanks for this. Useful, to the point and fun. Your idea to make less but higher quality videos is definitely paying out. Keep up! :)

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man!! Come a few more hopefully just around the corner :) been working on a bunch of them simultaneously

  • @LauraLamn
    @LauraLamn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this. Love the band you recorded too! Made me feel
    Nostalgic about my trip to New York in 2015

  • @melinasmagic
    @melinasmagic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for your effort in breaking everything down. now I wished I lived in NY!! 😄 I hope you and the artists had fun with a project like this :)

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much!!

  • @JonnyTravieso
    @JonnyTravieso 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was a night club DJ, I referred to the people on my crowded dancefloor affectionately as "Meat Baffles". I really had to crank up the volume because of that.

  • @Kevuno
    @Kevuno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video! One thing I wish you would have gone a bit more onto the monitoring during the performance. I noticed that in your setup everyone is wearing headphones but the npr setup they don’t which leads me to think that they have speakers playing back the sound. This is scary because there could be extra feedback. Also for the bass, you can’t fully go only DI because then the audience wouldn’t be able to hear it.

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes sorry I should have mentioned this is in the video! The monitoring was only meant so they could hear a click. This was so we could should a few different camera angles (bc I only have one camera) and comp together the final take CAMERA wise. At NPR they don't need to do this because they have plenty of cameras I'm sure. The actual performance itself was one take though :)

    • @Kevuno
      @Kevuno 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AudioHaze Makes sense! Thanks for responding. If you had multiple cameras, would having the monitoring via speakers be hard to pull off? (Avoiding feedback)

  • @wolfgangsanyer3544
    @wolfgangsanyer3544 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Here's a like and a sub and a comment. I'm not an audio engineer nor do i aspire to such, but i just respect the hell out of the work you've done here. bravo.

  • @JeffWernerIthacaNY
    @JeffWernerIthacaNY 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was SO excited to see that you did this topic! Thanks! So great!

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Jeff, glad you liked it!!

  • @carlosurbano613
    @carlosurbano613 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nailed that tone my friend, it does sound right out of npr
    Saludos! Been a fan of yours since your hozier video I hope you keep growing and one day we could collab 👋🏼

    • @AudioHaze
      @AudioHaze  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Carlos! That Hozier video was a beast lol, maybe some day who knows!