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- In honor of the fourth-ever Tiny Desk Contest, our intrepid Tiny Desk audio engineer Josh Rogosin goes deep on recording drums. The Contest closes at 11:59 p.m. ET on March 25, 2018, so get those last-minute submissions in to npr.org/tinydeskcontest!
Remember: You don't need to have fancy audio equipment to make a great entry - just be yourself, and let your music shine through. Good luck!
Learn more Tiny Desk tech tips from Josh, including this story on microphones, here: www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2019/04/02/705579879/tiny-tech-tips-microphones
Thanks for all the great work. What type of mixer do you use?
Wow! great info but are the instruments and microphones connected to an interface and audio software. How do we connect the microphones and where do we connect? Is it connected to a mixture, interface and audio software. What audio software do you use? would be great if you could share with us the idea for recoding the full song. Are these all played live or first you record an audio and then later sync it with the video?
@@anilrai9049 great fukin questions! ty:)
@@gazicj Oh I want to learn about all these as I really don’t have any idea.
Josh, because of you, TDC artists sound better than on most of their studio albums...Thank you for providing us with the gift of your audio expertise.
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You have exactly Right - Lianne La Havas, Andwrson Paak, Tank &Bangas are definitelly better in NPR!
So - Now I listen only NPR concerts on YT.
Regards!
@@tomlibero3780 Dua Lipa too!
We appreciate you Josh!
This is the most informative drum mic'ing video I've found and I've been watching A LOT
And it was only 5 min, crazy 💎🔥
What a lovely and precise educational video! Thank you!
Could this guy be anymore NPR-y?
Ha, nope
mjchmara1 well then, maybe you are too young...th-cam.com/video/bPpcfH_HHH8/w-d-xo.html
I'm agreeing with you, e.g. no, he could not be anymore NPR-y. I grew up on mid-90s SNL!
FIRST thing I said!
Must be the copious amount of soy they consume.
Josh from one audio engineer to another. I love your work every band sound incredible. You do so much with so little. It's an inspiration
Finally. A tutorial on how to get that NPR/ Tiny Desk drum sound everyone’s after. Sweet. So hyped. Super.
Tiny Desk sound is always primo! Clean, natural and organic. Thank you for that inside look!! Kudos!
This was such a great video, I know this was 6 years ago, so maybe time for a follow up video, where he can actually show the drum tracks in his DAW and how he goes about mixing a Tiny Drums session? Please 🙏
We need one of these videos from the videographer who filmed adele's tiny desk 👍
You guys are so generous. Let there be more from where you receive from
any1 else watching this even though they don't plan on recording drums anytime soon lol?
Maybe it's just me, but I love the sound of the 1 mic technique...
1 & 3 for me
Where do you put it?
@@Mittsthetfordyall if you watched the video he uses the right knee technique
you are a genius my friend!
Awesome video!!! More like this please!
KEXP vs TND mic crews need to be a throwdown
KEXP sucks totally in comparison with TDC
Josh Sooo Talented ❤️
This video was more helpful than a lot of other recording technique videos
Estos videos son delos los mejores, gracias Josh y todos los que están detrás de Tiny desk:)
Nice tips. Congratulations!!!. Greetings from Mexico City
Josh does a fantastic job.
helpful, but maybe next time do one where someone actually, like, plays the full kit with each setup.
All this videos sound great, thanks for the amazing sound
Love it
So this is the genius...
I know next to nothing about recording and engineering. It was cool to learn some things from this.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. PLEASE, KEEP THEM COMING. I BEG YOU
you guys are awesome.
"I like sticking it kinda halfway in halfway out of the hole"
Love it!! keep em coming!!!
Bless you for this!
This is so awesome. I just recently downsized my interface from an 8 input to a 2 input audio interface, so this helps me work with what I got haha!
This was great!
thank you! really interesting
P,lease please please make more of these
Would love to hear about approach to panning drums
He's so cute
Wait, tiny desk is done?
Glyn John’ technique used 3
Great tips. Gonna try some of this in our Sessions 🙌🏻🙌🏻
but what sit running into and back out of/? into a mixer, back out monitors? where to place monitors? thanx
No monitors or mixer just to a dedicated field recorder (sound devices)
3:20 yea I got couple more dollars to spend, only about 424€, truly inexpesive
That is actually pretty inexpensive for a mic.
We did ours with a single overhead. Shoulda used the knee!!! I hope our entry is still eligible.
This is horrible. He got so much wrong. Newbies, please ignore that video.
LOL. Are you saying this isn't how he records Tiny Desk?
Fun fact: Phase cancellation (or destructive interference) is used on purpose for noise cancellation headphones. Noise-cancelling headphones actively listen to the noise around you and plays it back "real-time" 180 degrees out of phase which makes the high part of the waveform cancel with the low part of the waveform, so it zeros out. Not that anyone asked...someone might like this haha. I wouldn't have thought of it in this context and how it produces great sound. So cool.
Thats fascinating i remember seeing something like that on Mark Robers channel. Sound acts in a very bizarre but incredibly interesting way....have you seen cymatics? Where they put sand on a plate and pump certain frequencies through it, and the sand forms geometric patterns due the the "shape" of the sound?
i've always wondered how. thanks
Ur so cool
Wouldn't that greatly affect the sound signature of the can? Just curious, i havent got a noise cancelling headphones myself
@@ether5431 perfect phase cancellation will result in zero sound. So since we are bringing in the 180 degree phase shift of outside noise signal, it will result in zero sound( or volume) of the outside noises due to phase cancellation. Whereas we can hear the thing we played( music,etc) properly without any problem with the outside noises cancelled out.
I hope that this is what you actually asked and you understood my point
So you're the reason Anderson Paak. sounds so much better at Tiny Desk than any other recording... Thanks!
That TDC is awesome! Worth a listen to those who haven't heard it.
Haha thanks 🙏
For comparison:
1 mic: 1:06
2 mic: 2:18
3 mic: 3:41
NPR should pin this comment
ty much
I only put it halfway in the hole, and I can confirm it leads to isolation
JcGrubbsFilms As the bishop said to the actress
im more mature than this i swear
Hey Josh- I used to work with Glyn a lot in the '80's & '90's and have a slight correction. The left mic just peeks over the floor tom, not above the cymbals.
Joe Schiff thanks so much joe! Amazing to hear a first hand account. Looking forward to listening to the difference.
Glad to help! You do great work. I love the TDCs.
This is fucking cool
That is awesome! Thank you for the knowledge
The employee retention at NPR Music must be extremely high- these engineers and musicians are geniuses! We appreciate your informative videos. Thank you!
I would love to hear a sample of the SM58 inside of the kick lol
I just tried this in my own recording and I can confirm, 58 on a kick sounds great
sm58 ftw, but take off the pop filter first for extra meatiness.
@@gitsurfer27 so just a sm57 haha
So nice tiny, we are waiting for others instrument recordings
There is. Just try looking further
@@jakealfrednunez6625 sir... That comment was 3 years ago
More please
i second that !
I've always been impressed with the sound engineering in this series, and this is exactly the video I wanted to see! Thanks so much for making it! :)
nice tutorial :D
Really helpful, thanks
just an idea how to make these tutorials even more helpful: If you play the same groove every time it's much easier to actually hear the differences between the recording methods :)
Else you might be fooled by the groove or the style of playing. For me the first Take with one mic sounded the best, but thats probs because I liked the groove the most :)
This video has been really helpful. Thanks.Can you please do a video on live mixing as well?
Oh man - Tip #3 - don't wrench your mic stands into different positions without loosening the tightening screws first, unless you want to throw away your nice mic stands every couple of years.
I would love a general walkthrough/overview of how he gets such consistently good sound in such a tight spot from so many different artists...what's his mindset? process?
This was so incredibly informative. And short?!? Amazing! Thanks for this!
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This was short but extremely educational :D
I hope one day you make one for voice :3
Lovely & Fabulous tips darling.
No discussion about compression???
Can we get another one of these that's like an hour long? lol
I found this to be a good video until that little whiney bit at the end. Kids these days are so soft.
Not only was this helpful but your explanation of phase cancellation is probably the best I've ever heard!
I saw a couple of videos of NPR... I am a drummer so always go first to the drum sound.. And .. OMG! this guy nailed in a way that make sing those drums for that kind of place!.. Excellent video!
this is really good thanks soooo much!
Says "This is a KM84", shows picture of KM184 ;-)
Perhaps it was an aspirational statement
LOL I have to admit, I aspire to having KM84s as well :-)
Whoops good catch I use 84s but didn’t here because they don’t make them anymore.
Simple + Efficient = great sound!
What if you have one condenser and one dynamic mic for example sm57.
Same technique as the one in this video? & if so would the condenser be overhead ?
Where are all the mic's hooked up? would love a sneak peak at what mixer/daw you guys use
Hahahah.....James Willits!
If you see this comment, heya buddy, how you doing?
Where can I get one of those pedco clamps with a shock mount like that?
the drummer quit before the video was over, at least, I saw some disdain on his face, some boring demos, and the host doing the last drum spot.
please share your setup for violin recordings!
How do you control sound bleeding to each microphone and monitor system for the artist. I dont see any of it.
The bleed is inevitable and a part of the sound. They play quietly as possible sometimes. I have speakers in the ceiling for very minimal reinforcement
@@globalsoundconcerts thanks
So this is the guy behind the incredible mix of every tiny desk concert
Thanks a lot for your tips!!!
Why do all people at NPR talk like that? 😅
So you don't close mic the snare and toms? 😱
Infamous Josh. We love what u do and can't wait for tiny desk to come back to the desk
Close your eyes and listen to Steve-O revealing the secrets for a successful drum recording session
ohh thats why the kick is too over-powered
I must learn your ways so I can use them for Church.
Omg i love you guys, the recordings that you do often appeal to me more than the album of the artists. That you make this series now is the most awesome thimg ever ! Keep up the amazong work
LISTEN TO BOB
Is about Dylan?
You sir are the real hero of tiny desk!
I’m gonna be AE at NPR one day!!
Let me just say the sound in Tiny Desk Concerts is always amazing!!! So this is so cool to see why and learn at the same time!! I wonder, is the EQ done live or is it preset in rehearsals and never touched again? Great stuff!!
Lots of EQ after in the computer DAW
I looked anywhere in the internet for josh’s tips on how he work on tiny desk! Keep these videos on! :D
Haha, yeah I think most people forget the most important part to getting good sounding drums. #1 RECORD A GOOD DRUMMER
I always say that and it make people mad.
Hummingbirds are so nice 👍🏻
The floor tom sounds horrible
Good lord even the NPR audio engineers have vocal fry!
When you need to rinse and mince!
The genius!
These guys are awesome!
More!!!!! Thx.
Awesome, any tips on reducing drums/cymbal bleed from vocal mics? Thanks.