MIC DROP: The Prophet Explains Why Latter-day Saints (Mormons) CANNOT Support Abortion.
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- President Russel M Nelsons explains exactly why Latter-day saints can't support legislation that advocates for abortion on demand.
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My mother was on medication that they discovered caused birth defects when she found out that she was pregnant. They recommended abortion. She said no. I am alive today, and you are reading this because my mother said I will take them how the Lord gives them. Thanks Mom!
The same thing happened to my mom. She was taking medication for her heart when she found out she was pregnant. It was discovered that the child was not developing properly. She had to make the difficult decision to end the pregnancy. She was able to see the baby after. She said he was so sweet looking, but didn't have many needed pieces that would have allowed him to live outside the womb.
My very much wanted second baby died inside me at 4 and a half months and I nearly died because the hospital I went to to have an abortion, which is the procedure to deliver a baby when nature doesn't work, refused to do the procedure. Thank God, I was able to have my abortion and go on to have three more children. There is absolutely reason for abortion!
If the baby already passed on inside the womb that isn't abortion...glad you were able to have more children. Even the church has said there MAY be extremely limited situations were abortion may take place with much prayer and thought.
I love this! Bless your sweet and faithful mother! And you. ❤
@kelleyturner6584 I agree if the baby has passed away inside you, then that is a miscarriage or still birth. Not abortion. Blessings
I am so grateful that as a sixteen year old who became pregnant in a desperate search for love, I knew that I could not kill my child as my Mother advised abortion. I was not a member of the Church yet. I am so grateful for the affirmation of a correct choice I made under duress from my family. I was ostracized and emotionally abused by those I should have been able to trust. I celebrate, my child and love her with all of my heart and soul. Life has been difficult, but we prevailed. We were baptized together, and I will never regret being obedient to the Lord.
@@Annette-hi1tn That's awesome that you could make that choice, but don't you understand, Trump and the far right are trying to take "choice" away, even from those raped, incested, health of the mother and incompatibility with life?
When I was 13 years-old, and LDS, still LDS, my 13 year old friend, was raped by her High Council father and was forced to keep and raise the baby..When the parents divorced, the father was never held accountable for the rape. Is that ok to you?
That is very special that you were eventually baptized together!
Instead of making two serious wrongs, you instead chose the right and brought your daughter to life. That takes a lot of courage!
Beautiful post Annette. Glad for you guys.
@@Annette-hi1tn I admire your strength! What a beautiful testimony ❤️
Thank God you let your divine mother instincts prevail.
I have personally felt the pain of an abortion. I shared it on my channel when God asked me to. I have only been able to find peace in Jesus Christ. He does heal and forgive.
thank you
Thanks for sharing, the trauma abortion cases to mothers isn't mentioned by supporters of abortion, I beleive it is strongly repressed by them to hide the pain and promote it.
do to an abusive husband i was forced to have two and it has taken a part of me with them my whole life until i felt God really did forgive me and even still i am not 100 percent certain because of the graveness of what i did, i continue to cry and pray for Gods mercy. with the first one the doctor told me i would not carry to term because I was taking the pill after i got pregnant, not knowing i was pregnant my son was 12 weeks old and i was 10 weeks pregnant. God does know how much i hated doing so and how much i hated myself once i realized what was going on. i love children with my entire heart and i miss my children i had lost. i am 64 years old and not a day that goes by i do not think about them. this is very traumatic and very hard to speak about.
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Talk to your Heavenly Father about it, he only understands and can heal your heart.
President Nelson’s message is not just for the Saints but for the entire world.
Why reject biblical truth?
We are commanded to test any teacher or "prophet" to see if it conflicts with previous revelation. The bible tells us to watch out for false teachers and examine the scripture just like the Bereans did to see if what the Apostle Paul was teaching was truth.
Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Test Joseph Smith against the words of God Jesus affirmed.
Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
"Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members.
Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." & "Is there any God besides me?.. I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none like Him.
LDS teaches that there is. "He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did" (King Follett Sermon)
Either the BIBLE or LDS is FALSE.
But it’s not. Is the current leader of Islam the Grand Imam for the whole world?! No. Only those who believe. Your prophet and your religion is NOT the religion of the world and shouldn’t be. The lack of respect for the faith of others is sickening.
✨️🙏🏻💜🤷🏼♀️🌸🌞🌸That's correct! 🌎✨️He is the only Prophet of the world!
@@lifetaketwo7662 You mean like the sickening lack of respect in your own comment? You obviously didn't understand the comment you responded to. She said President Nelson's 'message' is for the world. She didn't say anything about 'religion of the world'. And yes, the world should hear this message, whether you agree with it or not.
Amen. Three exceptions is supported by Nelson. Perfect message to the world and to the evangelical Maga movement.
I had to personally make this choice nearly 30 years ago, when my life was threatened by a serious complication of pregnancy. I chose life. Inspite of the baby’s birth at 25 weeks gestation due to the complication, he lived without compromise. And I am ever so grateful to all who made this miracle possible.
This makes me so happy. I watched a video by a Neo-Natal Physician who made the point that it is never necessary to purposely terminate the baby to save the mother. Early delivery or a c-section is always the safer option to save the mother. Depending on gestational age, the baby may or may not survive outside the womb but at least it is given a chance to survive and if the baby does not live, the family has a chance to say goodbye and mourn in a way that allows for dignity and respect for that child and the loss of life.
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@@annadavis2547 I had to have and abortion when my baby died inside me at 4 and a half months and I started getting sick because it would not deliver. An abortion, a D&C is the healthcare procedure for this.
I also continued with a pregnancy even after being hospitalized twice by the time I was 12 weeks pregnant. It was a difficult pregnancy and threatened my health up until 36 weeks when they took the baby c section . I was forced to take medications that could cause birth defects to continue the pregnancy. The baby was 100 percent perfect and today is a child psychologist with 2 children of her own . A life worth saving .
Thank you for having faith in God in that situation. ❤❤❤ All the love to you.
I am so grateful that so many have positive experiences to share after rejecting the option to abort. I wish to emphasize that unremarkable, normal, even abnormal children are worth saving. We may not hear their stories, and though every situation may not be as obviously “Well, it’s a good thing we didn’t abort this child,” life is worth saving.❤😊
My sister carried her child knowing he would only live a few hours. When he was born each of his brothers and sisters were able to hold him he was given a name and a blessing and then he passed. A few years down the road he came back through the veil and took his mother home. His name was Teancum
WHAT a _precious_ gift !
That brought tears to my eyes.
Oh my, what a beautiful testimony of life beyond this life and to the eternal bonds of family ties.
I wish a talk like this could be delivered at a session of conference today.
Amen. And with current updated numbers/ statistics, it is even more appalling.
Why wouldn’t they?
@@adamgonzalez8668 probably considered too “divisive”. I tried to hang up posters in my ward bulletin for a pro life fundraiser and was told it was considered “political” and therefore I wasn’t allowed to do it.
good question. When was the last time it was covered so well over the pulpit?
Not cool. Under that directive everything falls into the political category so nothing would be allowed.
My mother wanted an abortion when she was pregnant with me. It was illegal in Canada at the time. I suspect she may have tried. My father wouldn’t let her. I came into this world being unwanted while in the womb and unwanted in life. They divorced when I was barely 2, she kept me from my father, and then she kept leaving me everywhere else she could until one day, she was kicking me out at 11 years old, and then later dropping me off at a youth shelter at age 14… she put me through hell. It’s been scientifically proven that even thoughts and feelings like that have an effect on the baby’s development including their nervous and metabolic systems. Well I can tell you my entire life has been greatly and deeply impacted both physically, mentally, and emotionally. Praise the Lord for sending the Savior to heal such wounds for us. Sadly, it didn’t end in a happy story family wise for me, but it did and will yet end happy for me in the eternities.
To think that a fetus isn’t anything is exactly as he says, denial of reality.
Bless you, ❤
Dear Sister, you have been through a lot at the hands of selfish and heartless people. Sadly, they are allowed the freedom to make their bad choices and tragically, their bad choices affect others. I hope that you know you are precious and priceless. I know the Atonement of Jesus Christ is there to heal those wounds, as you said, and I'm glad you look forward with hope to the blessings of eternity. I know He will send many blessings for you in mortality as well.
My heart ❤️ to you dear sister. I love you! May you always know the love of our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ. I hope in your adulthood you find peace and joy.
My daughter gave birth to a baby boy with Downs Syndrome. He is the most adorable and precious little 5 year old. We adore him. He is an angel in our family 💓
Downs Syndrome people are God’s gift to humanity to teach us all what unconditional love looks, acts, and sounds like. We have had opportunity to be surrounded by people with various needs, in our support of Special Olympics. Even among these many, those with Downs Syndrome stand out and always warm my heart. God bless you, your daughter and granddaughter.
My little boy has Down’s Syndrome. I was told to abort him. It was disgusting that a Dr would suggest such a hideous act of evil. He is a beautiful, pure spirit. He is my life
As the mother of eight children I gave birth to my eighth child a week after my fortieth birthday. My doctor was concerned that my child might have physical and/or mental issues because of my age. He wanted me to have a special procedure to take amniotic fluid from my uterus. This procedure would check for any problems with my baby. If problems were discovered I had the option to have the baby aborted. This was an LDS doctor and he knew that I would have the baby, he was required by law to give me the information. Of course, I said that I wanted this baby no matter what problems it would have.
The baby was born the week after I turned forty. His was the easiest birth I ever had. I only had to push once and there he was. a beautiful boy. He had one older brother, rejoiced because now he had a brother. My other six children were girls and they were also delighted with a brother. My new son was born healthy and strong. He had no abnormalities at all. He was always my bonus child because he had such an even temperament. I have never known him to lose his temper. He is now 33yrs.old.
When I was 27 I was told the same thing. That was 40 years ago.
Same for me but I was 42. I have a wonderful precious son now 22.
Same! He’s now 31 and a beautiful and caring son and all around excellent human. My doctor kept telling me that I needed to consider abortion if my baby’s tests came back after an amniocentesis with certain abnormalities. I told my doctor that my husband and I would keep this baby no matter what and come what may. He then said people have gotten divorced over having a child with special needs and I said, then it sounds like they had problems to begin with. 😊 My husband and I will do what we need to do if he’s born with special needs. He meant well. So did I. ❤
I had a child at 41. She's perfectly fine.
I have often shuddered at the doctors who are forced to perform these abortions after all their years of studying how to save our lives. 🇬🇧 14:30
I'm getting real on ya. I went through a rough patch a couple of years back. Husband and I ended up pregnant at the end of it. I didn't think I could take the pregnancy, it was hard. Blah blah, I'll spare you the details. Anyways. That child that was born after that pregnancy is just the sweetest kid and he's extra special to me. God gave me extra tender mercies because he knew I needed that baby! 😊
Thank you for sharing your experience and testimony!
God bless you and him !
At 7 months of gestation I found that the baby girl I was carrying had birth defects that weren’t compatible with life. The doctor who diagnosed her condition suggested a late term abortion. I couldn’t even consider it. The day she was born was both sad and inspiring. I cherished each minute of the eight hours of her life.
No matter the condition of our physical bodies when we arrive here on earth, each of us has a right to experience life. I have often felt my daughter’s influence in my life. What a blessing she has been from the other side of the veil. I live to be with her again someday.
Very beautiful experience
I wish our leaders were this clear on abortion today
@@brentforbush9237 why aren’t they clear? Nothing has changed. Are you looking for a shift? Abortion has been very consistent throughout church history.
@@brentforbush9237 I agree. Every new generation needs to hear this profound message clearly & directly from the voice of the prophet or apostles that presides over their current daily lives. We've all been taught to FOLLOW THE PROPHET.
They expect us to search out and HEAR the words of TRUTH (as we've done here today) and NOT rely _solely_ on constant reminders , wanting to be "commanded in all things" .
That SAID , tho , I too sometimes get a little disappointed that ALL we hear declared to the WORLD is sweetness and comfort .
I _too_ see a NEED for preaching the word of REPENTANCE to this world .
The Prophet of The restoration was COMMANDED to preach NOTHING but Repentance and Faith in The Lord Jesus Christ , yet we see so much LESS of that now - at a time when its _seems_ *most* needed .
We see LESS *WARNING* and a call to REPENTANCE , than "you are loved" in a world SEEKING nothing _but_ personal "peace and comfort" in their circumstance .
Thank GOODNESS for Prophets and Apostles - _Christ_ being the CHIEF Cornerstone - speaking warning and REPENTANCE to _our_ generation .
@@chuckintexas I agree with you to a point. Are we not reminded continually to read & reread the Book of Mormon at every general conference? Why then...are these Strong and vitally BOLD conference talks of 40 years ago not preached over the pulpit today with the same conviction for our youth, younger generations & even converts to hear straight from the Prophet or Apostles mouths who've never heard it yet? I agree with you. I'm also confused at the softball approach on Repentance warnings.
@@RecoveringUGradnope , not today. We have democrat members of the church who believe abortion is a necessary evil that is excused by leaders of the church today.
I was told my son might have neurological defects as he was developing within my womb. He is now 20 and is very intelligent and is talented in many ways. Often times the medical industry persuades women to have abortions. This thought wasn't even a question in my mind. Life is precious. Every life. My husband works with severely disabled children. He loves his job as difficult as it is, he loves interracting and caring for the sweet spirits within those disabled bodies.
As a church, let’s get back to calling out evil and preaching repentance in a fallen world with an utmost passion.
@@ProdigalSonMatt You say this yet, you support a debased, immoral, rapist for President?!!!
?? We don't? Maybe the Lord is instructing them to teach what the people will bear. There is no change on abortion in Church policy.
It's called the Johnson Amendment. Back in the 1950s, then-Senator Lyndon B. Johnson, tired of being called out on his corruption by churches and other nonprofit organizations, slipped a passage into the tax code saying that if they continue to do so, they incur heavy tax penalties. For 70 years now, churches have been effectively muzzled in their divine duty to preach against corrupt leaders, a tradition dating back to Old Testament and Book of Mormon times. President Trump issued an executive order to blunt the enforcement of it somewhat, but of course that didn't last too long once he was out of the White House. What's really needed is a conservative Congressional majority that will remove it from the law.
Then call out Trump and his evil minions!!!!!!
I am glad you posted this. As Christians we must never stop talking about this, far too much is at stake.
Why reject biblical truth?
We are commanded to test any teacher or "prophet" to see if it conflicts with previous revelation. The bible tells us to watch out for false teachers and examine the scripture just like the Bereans did to see if what the Apostle Paul was teaching was truth.
Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and EXAMINED the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Test Joseph Smith against the words of God Jesus affirmed.
Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
"Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members.
Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." & "Is there any God besides me?.. I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none like Him.
LDS teaches that there is. "He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did" (King Follett Sermon)
Either the BIBLE or LDS is FALSE.
@@payaj2815 Just think how many blessings God would give our country and his children if Abortion was gone! ✨️🤷🏼♀️🌸And life was VALUED and appreciated and considered to be Precious!
Society has changed over the year's towards darkness! Women march the street's for the right to kill innocent babies! God's children need bodies for resurrection! God help us and our country! 🙏🏻🙏🏿🙏🏾🙏🏽💜🙏✨️
@@stardustgirl2904 So your cool with little girls having their father's or brothers babies?
@@kelleyturner6584I think your question was answered in President Nelson’s talk. 5:07 . Nobody is cool with rape and incest. Rape and incest are wrong and immoral. But, we should be able to agree that the 97%+ of abortions that have nothing to do with saving the life of the mother and nothing to do with rape or incest should not be performed. Eliminating life out of personal convenience is wrong and immoral.
@@kelleyturner6584 No because ideally nobody should be raped/subjected to incest.
However, once a baby already exists, nobody has the right to take their life based on the circumstances of their conception.
Idk if you realize this, but abortion doesn’t undo the trauma of abuse. It doesn’t fix anything, it just kills a child to get them out of the way.
My own mother was past the normal age for childbirth for a first child, 44 years old when I was born. There are some today who might has suggested abortion for the sake of her health or possibility of me being handicapped. She choses wisely and I was born healthy , now a proud father of 5 and grandfather of 15 with 1 great grandchild.❤
My sweet mother was the same age (45) when she became with her 7th child. She was certain she was not pregnant. He turned out to b a Godsend as mu Fathr died as he was a year old. He gave her a reason to keep living and taking care of him. He is now 72 and had boys and lots of grandchildlren. we love him dearly.
I was told the same about one of my babies. That she may be handicapped with Downs. I was asked about abortion, as per the hospital requirement. I quickly said NO. My daughter is perfect and the light of my life. And not handicapped either.
It’s only in recent years I’ve awakened to our awful situation. Abortion was something I was oblivious to until people like Ben Shapiro brought it to light. Thanks for posting this talk.
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I was a high school senior way back in 1986. I gave my baby a better life through adoption. I married and had three children of my own. In 2018 "the baby" I placed for adoption and I were reunited through Ancestry DNA and Facebook. Alas in 2021, my middle child Joe Milks died. It was devastating, and still we were able to get my son Joe Milks' Temple work done in the Temple of our Lord. My birth son was able to be the proxy for his half brother in the Temple.
What an amazing blessing it is to have these moments where we are allowed to hold our people again because of choices we make without any understanding at all in this life.
Just because our people die in this life, we will see them again.
♥️
The church is true.
@@vincentorr507 Ben Shapiro is a freak!
Even the newest For the Strength of Youth pamphlet states:
"Human life is a sacred gift from God. Elective abortion for personal or social convenience is contrary to the will and the commandments of God. Church members who submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for such abortions may lose their membership in the Church."
We must continue to stand for truth at all times & in all places as we teach youth or adults about the gift of procreation.
Not when a child is conceived in violence!
This is the topic my husband and I have been discussing. He’s 100% no abortion ever. I don’t know what to think in regards to my daughter if she were misused and it resulted in pregnancy. That’s my grandchild and a life, but can I put my daughter through that trauma? It would take a LOAD of support and counseling to help her through that and help that baby get to live. All of which I would hope I’m strong enough to be her rock if it were to happen.
@@RandiJillH - Its sad that you don't know what you would do to help your daughter or counsel her in her decision making . _Sincerely_ sad .
PRAY about TRUTH and where *_it_* *IS* and _then_ decide what YOU will do with *THAT* .
EVERY other question and its _ANSWER_ (James 1:5) can come from understanding THAT single FUNDAMENTALLY _UNDENIABLE_ truth .
This life is NOT about what YOU want to make YOU happy .
It is ONLY about what you can do to help OTHERS make it out of here ALIVE .
THAT is where you will find your _own_ TRUE happiness .
If you DO ever face that dilemma , you will be WELL SERVED to have made your decision WELL _ahead_ of time , and will be even BETTER served if you make your decision in line with the WILL of your Father in Heaven and NOT based on what you _think_ *might* make you and also your daughter "happy" in the moment .
The scars a BAD decision will leave behind will haunt the BOTH of you for the rest of your natural and _ETERNAL_ lives .
Sorry , but this is the TRUTH , and _AS_ *truth* it doesn't ask US for what _we_ want or what WE think will make us "happy" .
TRUTH just _is_ - TRUTH .
@@kelleyturner6584I have seen multiple stories from women who chose life for their children who were conceived in violence and they are so grateful that they didn’t choose abortion to end their pregnancy. Whether they gave their child for adoption or kept and raised them, they have been healed by the love they have experienced by carrying the innocent child and giving them life. They have turned a horrible experience into something beautiful.
@@RandiJillH The Church's stance, and Elder Nelson mentions in this talk, is that it is allowed, but should be done so with prayer and an understanding of God's will. I would never want to force that on someone, and the Church agrees, but many women go on to have those babies and are happy that they did, even if they give them up for adoption.
This NEEDS to be shared again. I'm so sick of us tiptoeing around issues these days. Abortion needs to be vocally and strongly condemned. There's no room to go along with the wicked practice of abortion in the restored church of Christ.
@@Vetionarian But yet, so many support Trump and he is extremely wicked!!!!
@@kelleyturner6584 save it. It is the Harris/Walz combo that supports an even promotes abortion on demand. That's what this talk is about. Listen and learn. And seek truth.
@@kelleyturner6584what in the world does this have to do with trump? Pretty sure he’s against abortion
@@kelleyturner6584Are you crazy??? Trump is pro life, Biden Harris and now walz are for abortion through and up to birth!!! Satan has twisted your mind with this. The Democrats are the party of abortion.
Amen !
This made me cry! God bless President Nelson❤
Yeah, well, cry all you want because that was yesterday's church ... TODAY'S church actually donates money to abortion clinics and racist, anti-white organizations!
Our 25 week gestation twins were born and at that stage, had distinct, unique personalities. I was taken back at their fight for life, their vigilance and determination despite level 4 brain bleeds, heart surgeries and many months in the NICU. I abhor abortions and excuses that, beyond 20 weeks a child must die in order to allow a mother to live. This is a lie, with the advent of modern medicine. Our God will judge us based on our reverence for the lives of our most innocent.
There are times where a pregnancy can and does kill mothers. I don't think we should force or encourage mothers to die on the slim chance their baby and them could survive, especially if they would be leaving other children motherless or even parentless
I'm against abortion but saying that it's a lie that mothers can't die from pregnancies after a certain period in time is incorrect and makes us sound uncaring and super extreme
@@_Squiggle_This talk was pretty clear. *Abortion of convenience is evil.* The ~3% other cases, rare actual cases, are the only carve out, which was also clear. Abortion was sold as being safe, legal, *RARE*, which morphed into (as predicted) *contraception* and killing over 70 million babies just in the US. Gross!
That judgement is _possibly_ the most CLEARLY _FUNDAMENTAL_ judgement we will face .
@@_Squiggle_ - Those "times" are such the EXTREME minority of cases that _statistically_ they don't even register . To use THAT _PARTICULAR_ circumstance to JUSTIFY the killing of _our_ MOST *INNOCENT* is _itself_ THE lie of The Cult of DEATH .
NO ONE has said the mothers "can't die" in child birth and to assert such s _dishonest_ in the extreme .
What _IS_ being said is that for the overwhelmingly VAST majority of the cases , its personal *selfishness* and self-justification that results is the DEATHS of our most INNOCENT .
@@chuckintexas If the statically unlikely occurs and a woman will die unless her fetus is aborted, do you think that woman should die?
I'm anti-abortion, I just believe is this particular exception
I agree with you in that this is perhaps the most important general conference talk ever given. Because life is sacred. Thank you for posting this. I'm sharing.
A message of unwavering truth - needed as much today as it was then.
I started listening to all of President Nelson’s talks since he has was called as an apostle. This was one of the very first talks he gave in conference as an apostle. I tend to agree with the other comments, that we don’t seem to hear conference talks like this today. What I mean by that - we don’t seem to hear talks that clearly denounce the sins that are accepted by our society as a good.
I sometimes get a little disappointed that ALL we hear declared to the WORLD is sweetness and comfort .
I _too_ see a NEED for preaching the word of REPENTANCE to this world .
The Prophet of The restoration was COMMANDED to preach NOTHING but Repentance and Faith in The Lord Jesus Christ , yet we see so much LESS of that now - at a time when its _seems_ *most* needed .
We see LESS *WARNING* and a call to REPENTANCE , than "you are loved" in a world SEEKING nothing _but_ personal "peace and comfort" in their circumstance .
Thank GOODNESS for Prophets and Apostles - _Christ_ being the CHIEF Cornerstone - speaking warning and REPENTANCE to _our_ generation .
Spoken like a true Prophet, because he is.
😂😂😂❤Dirk Jensen is the Relayer of the Cosmic Space Wolf
@@dirkjensen969dirk needs medical assistance!!!
Amen brother, spoken like a true prophet
@@acanofspam5326 I have to disagree with you guys on that point. If he was a prophet, the scriptures tell us he would have had to have been appointed by the Lord. By his own admission, he received no such appointment: puremormonism.blogspot.com/2022/04/why-are-you-still-calling-this-guy.html
He wasn't one at the time nor is he one now
It never ceases to amaze me of the wisdom these prophets have shared with us through the years. This nation is just beginning to feel the consequences of not listening to their words of wo. As long as it continues on its current path, it will be lost to a more righteous people. Birthing children and teaching them correct principle is long waning away into oblivion..
I am thankful for my life, I was adopted and am grateful for my biological parents. I am sealed to my family. I was placed precisely with my eternal family. 🙏🏻 ❤ ♾️
I am a birth mom. The dad had said we’d marry but we were young and thankfully never did. We split when i was about 6 months pregnant. I wasn’t going to church at the time. As much as it broke my heart come to terms with placing my baby, I wanted him to have the best life i could give him even if that meant not with me!! I hope you know how loved you are by so many you may not even know, who may be far away! And so thankful for so many wonderful families out there who patiently wait for their babies to get to them by someone else!❤
@@Twak7486 Happy (late) Birth Mother's Day, then. That sounds like an exceptionally rough part of your life, and I am sure your child and his adoptive family are so grateful that you gave him the gift of life. I had a friend who went through a similar situation and it was so incredibly bitter and yet so deeply sweet. I hope you continue to feel peace about your decision-- even on the bitter days-- and that your current life is fulfilling, stable, and full of healthy loving relationships. *Internet Hug*
Yes, most spiritual experience I’ve ever had finding his family and receiving that confirmation he was their baby. He’s almost 16 now. We have little communication and the only thing that does tug at my heart is I’m not sure if his family is active anymore. But these last days are a struggle and i know many falling away for whatever reasons… But for me, I got active in church while pregnant with him. Met my now husband a few years after placing, we were sealed in 2013, we have 6 kids now! I know my life wouldn’t be what it is if I had chosen differently. Thank you for your kind words!! 🥰 (internet hug returned)
This is very powerful and ready to share with our youth and stand fast and immovable from the truth. Thank you for putting this together.
Pres Nelson is a prophet of our Lord Jesus Christ. He nailed this subject also. Amen to this doctrine.
He wasn't the Prophet, when he gave this talk. The church no longer excommunicated those that choose abortion, as it is a very hard choice to.make regardless of the circumstances.
@@kelleyturner6584 guess what??? R. M. Nelson was an apostle at that time, and apostles are prophets, seers, and revelators. So, yes he was a prophet at the time. No, not the senior apostle, but an apostle and a prophet all the same.
Also, your blanket statement that the church doesn’t excommunicate women that commit abortion is false. It’s on a case by case, individual basis. It depends on if they are repentent, if they are endowed etc.
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😂 The Jab is safe and effective - Yeah, he's a prophit, alright! 🤣
This address was probably 30 or 40 years ago. There are millions of LDS that have never heard this message. It needs be brought up again in conference.
All will be held accountable by their Maker for their reverence, or lack there of, for life.
I've watched this talk a few times over the years. Very powerful
I have 5 younger brothers. The youngest was diagnosed with Downs Syndrome in the womb and a hole was found in his heart. The doctor recommended abortion. My parents decided No. Thank God, that was the best decision ever, he was born with a good heart and Downs Syndrome, and is now the cutest little guy we've ever met! He's such a joy to everyone! Why could anyone have such heartless intentions to take the life of a baby in the womb, only for convenience?!
I remembered the words of Nephi: "And you that will not partake of the goodness of God,… I bid you farewell for these words shall condemn you at the last day. For what I seal on earth, shall be brought against you at the judgment bar;…"
I feel sorry for "woke" people and even WORST, for members that support those abominations.
Excellent point _and_ reference . Well DONE .
@@3dfymyworld484 This scripture has nothing to do with this topic. Old Testament scripture allows for abortion with rape and incest.
WELL DONE with this video! You're spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ in important and bold ways.
Once the Prophet was ordained, I read ALL of his previous talks as an Apostle to gain my testimony. I came across this talk and it was powerful. He has a LOT of mic drop talks. Very much like Benson did. Thanks for this reminder.
A wonderful classic. This talk came directly after Bruce R. McConkie’s final address, as it happens.
Light _and_ TRUTH in an ever - _darkening_ world .
“As a servant of the Lord I dutifully warn those who advocate and practice abortion will incur the wrath of almighty God”. We need teaching this clear because the consequences of abortion are horrific. Most obviously for the baby, but also for the mother and often the father.
I know LDS women who have had abortions, and they tell me it was the worst decision of their life. To this day they are haunted by it, even after repentance and forgiveness. Just like Pres Nelson, one woman I know says even the word is sickening. But the people who encouraged/advocated women to abort their baby, and especially those who “practiced” the abortion do not feel the consequences of what they have done. I believe those who advocate, encourage, and especially practice almost always take advantage of vulnerable women. At least that has been my experience talking with my friends who have had abortions.
I would have died without mine..I'm grateful for the medical profession for this procedure!
@@kelleyturner6584 If the baby does not survive, then of course they should be removed. That's not what we're talking about when we decry abortion. I know you probably felt sorrow for the loss of your baby, and likely still do. So of course, you know that all human life is valuable.
If the baby's life can be saved and preserved, then we do that. If their life cannot be saved, then of course there is no sin in removing the baby who has already died.
Truth spoken . Well done .
@@kelleyturner6584 - If your life WAS in genuine MEDICAL peril , then a the utter EXCEPTION to the RULE you PROVE the lie that IS the general Abortion movement . I glad you survived , and _if_ the baby passed before birth , you're CERTAINLY correct - it needed to be removed , but that is NOT "abortion" .
Only YOU know how much TRUE _MEDICAL_ PERIL your life faced , and as such how much comfort that knowledge can give you when its time for YOU to report _your_ stewardship at judgement .
_My_ *sincere* hope is that you're RIGHT , and that _being_ true , this will balance your scales in the affirmative .
@@ztodd It's an abortion!!!!! As a former medical professional, the term for what happens when intervention must be used to remove a fetus, dead or developing, is an abortion!
Thank you, President Nelson!!! This is a wonderful talk…Love, Sister Gay Michaelis ❤😇🙏✝️
Lillie Freeze recalled that the Prophet Joseph Smith said that, “the time would come when none but the women of the Latter-Day Saints would be willing to bear children.” Truman G. Madsen noted that prophecy while researching the Prophet Joseph Smith, and how much more so is that evident today both in bearing and rearing. I’m happy to hear of other Christian’s and concerned citizens speaking up about this, but I’m still shocked this isn’t brought up more frequently as a sign of the times.
I have been searching for that quote. Thank you for sharing
@@marcipratt7185 I’m sorry, I can’t find more exact dates or cited works beyond what I’ve just listed. But that quote stuck out to me since I first heard it 10 years go, and I thought it was scary back then, but looking back now it wasn’t as scary as things are now.
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“Mormon” women are worse than the world now. It is the law of opposition.
Thankyou president, for covering those who have remorefully taken that pathway
Wow! I don't remember hearing this talk before. He left absolutely NO doubt what the Lord's doctrine is.
My mother was told by 2 doctors to terminate me because she got pregnant with me when she had MS. They told her having me would kill her. She said no way. She had me and actually went into remission for a year and then went kn to live 50 years!!! I owe my life to her.
Note the TH-cam warning on this. A sure sign you're about to hear what They don't want you to.
Eloquently summarized and perfectly true.
When is the last time someone spoke on this in conference?
It’s a great evil
April 2021, Elder Andersen
Last I heard was in support of abortion for three exceptions.
@@llllll-j7p then then after prayerful consideration.
It’s always been this way.
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Jacob thanks for posting this. He makes so many great points, so relevant even all these years later. He’s awesome!
I have such a hard time when i speak with other members who is totally fine with abortion. I just don't know how I'm going to see them as sisters. I feel like we practice two different religions. It's very hard for me. 😞 I try very hard.
Powerful message. I wish we had this much moral clarity and frank denunciation of evil on hot topics now, like they had in the past. This is a highly relevant and important topic now, but we mostly get just silence and tolerance instead. The importance of repetition on key topics is frequently illustrated in the scriptures, but we don’t get that on the sensitive topics. This de-emphasis causes a perceived ambiguity or softening in the doctrine, and unfortunately enables people to be led astray.
Abortion is discussed, but not with this fiery rhetoric. Anderson said abortion is "evil, stark and real and repugnant" in 2021. I don't "fiery" should be the default conference talk, though. Maybe that's just personal taste though
@@_Squiggle_ - Likely .
Sometimes _I_ get a little disappointed that ALL we hear declared to the WORLD is sweetness and comfort .
I _too_ see a NEED for preaching the word of REPENTANCE to this world .
The Prophet of The restoration was COMMANDED to preach NOTHING but Repentance and Faith in The Lord Jesus Christ , yet we see so much LESS of that now - at a time when its _seems_ *most* needed .
We see LESS *WARNING* and a call to REPENTANCE , than "you are loved" in a world SEEKING nothing _but_ personal "peace and comfort" in their circumstance .
Thank GOODNESS for Prophets and Apostles - _Christ_ being the CHIEF Cornerstone - speaking warning and REPENTANCE to _our_ generation !
@@_Squiggle_ what "rhetoric" specifically?
Yes! The perceived ambiguity does seem problematic to me too. Maybe it is like the parables of Christ - if you are of a mind and spirit to understand them, they wil be of use to you. And for those can't understand the continued and eternal importance of the words of our prophets, then maybe you have some work to do.
Thankyou for sharing, appreciate your beautiful message ❤🙏
The single most important consideration I have for selecting a candidate for President of the United States is their stance on abortion. Everything else pales in comparison.
@@UVJ_Scott Yes, Harris!!! Trump will do away with all abortion and our religion as well!
Ditto. I am SO very grateful I was Catholic before my conversion. The foundation for the Gospel had already been laid.
Me too. Full stop.
Really? What about being a law-abiding citizen, not a felon, not a sexual predator? The president has far less influence over abortion legislation than you do at the grass roots. A president who is not only an unapologetic sexual predator but Constitutionally illiterate is by far the greatest threat.
@@elizabethwilcox9199 The next president will more than likely select a Supreme Court Justice.
Some of our recent Presidents sexploits:
Franklin Roosevelt was living in adultery the whole time he was President
John F. Kennedy slept with every starlet he could get into bed and he was shot because he severed his relationship with the mafia.
Lyndon B. Johnson had multiple affairs and required the Secret Service to provide prostitutes whenever he was stressed.
Gerald R. Ford reportedly had an affair with a German spy who was later deported.
George H. W. Bush's wife was suicidal over his affair, her biography says.
Bill Clinton's multiple affairs are legendary and he was accused of sexual assault.
George W. Bush was accused of assault by a woman who later died by suicide.
Biden's Jill was married when Joe started his relationship with her.
And, "I [was] so afraid of him coming in the shower with me that I’ve waited until late at night to take a shower” Ashley Biden diary pages 67-68
Kamala got where she was by sleeping with influential politicians (Mayor Willie Brown).
There are very few politicians who are stellar citizens. Trump isn't a politician and owes favors to no one. And God used unrighteous kings and Prophets to do his work throughout the Bible. So yes, abortion is front and center. Second to abortion is a candidate that supports Socialism as a replacement for free enterprise.
I love President Nelson. Wonderful prophetic talk.
I can't believe that You Tube has put a MedLine link on this post. 😢
Meh, I think the MedLine thing is fine. I would rather people fight abortion with facts instead of misinformation, which is what I think TH-cam is fighting against
@@_Squiggle_ - _indeed_ . The fight AGAINST truth is pervasive . That (now) President NELSON is allowed to speak GENUINE TRUTH here is in _itself_ a genuine miracle . The MedLine note _itself_ an offensive affront , is a clear reminder of the environment created by the culture of lies and death that has the world by a death-grip .
I sometimes get a little disappointed that ALL we hear declared to the WORLD is sweetness and comfort .
I _too_ see a NEED for preaching the word of REPENTANCE to this world .
The Prophet of The restoration was COMMANDED to preach NOTHING but Repentance and Faith in The Lord Jesus Christ , yet we see so much LESS of that now - at a time when its _seems_ *most* needed .
We see LESS *WARNING* and a call to REPENTANCE , than "you are loved" in a world SEEKING nothing _but_ personal "peace and comfort" in their circumstance .
Thank GOODNESS for Prophets and Apostles - _Christ_ being the CHIEF Cornerstone - speaking warning and REPENTANCE to _our_ generation !
This is a case where I think the preface at the beginning can be removed. The entire video is, in fact, the direct view of the church
My grandma was offered an abortion on her worst pregnancy, but she refused the offer and few months later she gave birth to my dad one month premature, but survived
Honest question: Why isn’t the sanctity of life being talking about as honestly from the pulpit these days as it was back in the 80’s? If it’s just as important now as it was then, why is it rarely heard in conference?
I think the subject of abortion is so political that to do so would be to declare they are on a specific side of politics, but the church must avoid looking like it's on one side to avoid making people think you must be associated with one side of a political side to join the church.
@@the_timinator77the problem with that is a great many moral positions are political.
@@hardwork8395 Indeed. If the Church were to give this talk today, and similar politicized issues the Corporate side of the Church would be dissolved by the Government before you could say Amen. It might actually happen still in the near future. Keys will never be affected, but the practical organisation might (like its 501(c)3 status).
We live in a time where political issues and religious observance to Christ’s restored gospel have few points that don’t have overlap. This topic, the alphabet group related issues etc. The church shouldn’t tell you how to vote, but should be teaching correct principles so that we govern ourselves in line with the Gospel.
@@SuHwak I’m an atheist, but here’s my perspective: a religious entity needs to give up its tax exempted status if it truly is the beacon of morality and truth it claims. It just needs to do what it claims to do and let the chips fall where they may.
Thank you for posting. Such a powerful talk on such a much debated issue in today's society. This is an election year please remember which party is favorable to abortion and which is more favorable towards life.
I adopted my daughter 53 years ago. I'm so very proud whom she has become. The social worker had along list of ailments she might have on later life. We adopted her anyway. My 1st w
A lot of people in the comments seem to be lamenting the need for something like this from our current leadership. I believe and trust that Christ is still at the head of His church. I personally believe they are saying the same things but with more of a focus on pure doctrine rather than behavior. I don’t think it is smart to call our current leadership “too scared” or “spineless”. They answer to Christ, not to us. He knows better than any of us.
The topic is too hot for the church to step into the fray and cause more negative publicity for the church. They know it would cause more trouble (protests, riots, members quitting, etc.) due to the relative controversy in the US right now. They've had their position set forth for years and it hasn't changed just like so many other mainstream religions.
I don't know what year President Nelson gave this talk, but am so happy it's posted now as a reminder to the world of the sanctity of life
I was told to abort my little boy because of birth defects. He was born a beautiful child with Down’s Syndrome. He is my life. I’m so glad I did not listen to my Drs. It was appalling to me that it would have even been suggested. The act of abortion is an abomination. I could never conceive of doing this to any child; especially my own. I am disabled because of labor trauma. I may never be able to hold a job again. But my children are my life and joy. They more than make up everything for everything I’ve lost.
A great quote I heard today... look where the ungodly go (or support) and go the opposite direction
I had cancer while pregnant in my state president came over and told me I had the option of abortion.
She’s 21 now, and absolutely delightful ! We both lived!
@@JG-cx4fs But you had the choice!!!!
“ … what twisted reasoning has transformed mythical concepts into contorted slogans ascending to a practice which is consummately wrong”. This is so well said. Linda Bruce has talked about slogans created around the time she led the Los Angeles chapter of NOW. They laughed as they created slogans that today are not only taken seriously, but treated as “gospel” for those defending on-demand abortion. They could not believe these over-the-top slogans were actually popularly adopted and stuck. We’re talking about things like, “it’s my body”, and various references to “choice”. Not only mythical concepts (“it’s my body”), but factually and scientifically demonstrably false.
Great talk with astounding moral clarity. I can't help but ask why can't they state this message as clearly and as forcefully today?
They haven't had a whole talk on abortion recently, but in 2021 Elder Andersen said, "Abortion is an evil, stark and real and repugnant, which is sweeping over the earth. I plead with the women of this Church to shun it, to stand above it, to stay away from those compromising situations which make it appear desirable."
I assume that this is a response to that brainless declaration of “””””””LDS””””””” people who came out supporting Kamala Harris, “because of their religion”. I don’t understand how someone could be so…….. so thoughtless, considering what she herself supports.
Dennis is gonna Dennis.
I've thought a lot about this too. The HarrisWalz support abortion up to birth and sometimes after. This is so evil and contradictory to the gospel of Jesus Christ. People can hate on Trump all they want but he is the most pro life president we've ever had
Yeah, but at this point it feels like pick your poison. Trump being pro-life is a huge reason to support him, but there's also a huge laundry list of dumb, unemphatic, and straight up bad stuff he had done
Neither candidate is doing the Lord's work, you just gotta pick which one is the least wicked
Abortion is not the only issue any one candidate represents. I personally can't support a man who lies constantly, mocks veterans, instigates contention everywhere he goes, and is unapologetically unfaithful to this wife. Neither side aligns perfectly with church teachings, so please be more understanding to those of use who decide differently from you.
I have nine children. I have five with special needs: four with autism and two who are deaf (one of my deaf children has autism). I can't imagine missing half of my children. Satan has quite a powerful hold on the lies of abortion. I help women write their stories. Many of them suffer from deep grief from their abortions, and they have a lifetime of pain. We have to fight Satan! I pray that these children and spirits who have been lost will help as angels come to newly pregnant mothers and whisper---please allow me to be born.
and it is a life time of pain i can assure you of that. its also a life time spent missing your children, its also a lifetime spent hating yourself and wondering how God could ever forgive even with the circumstances and naivety and ignorance
I have a strict "no returns policy" when it comes to pregnancy:) However, with two rambunctious boys under 4 already, it was not a comfortable thing to discover my pregnancy with my 3rd. I wondered if I could possibly manage 3 when I could hardly manage 2. But my sweet little baby is bringing additional unity and love to our family in a way we never could have achieved without him. It may not always be convenient to us when they do come, but I don't believe any child comes by accident.
It’s great to hear clear condemnation of abortion, even though this is only partially clear. As he alludes to, the church allows exceptions for cases of rape, incest, health of the mother and - recently added - when “a competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.” Are the babies in those situations any less alive? Or less human?
Abortion is wrong because it is the taking of a human life, a right reserved to God alone. The circumstances of that life’s conception do not change this objective truth, and I’ve long been bothered by the idea that a woman’s exercise of agency determines the acceptability of taking her child’s life. Two wrongs don’t make things right.
It also shows a disappointing lack of faith to give a doctor’s judgment precedence over God’s mysterious working in our broken world, with broken situations.
I feel that we do need to listen to the counsel of a physician that we trust! If we pray about it, counsel with people who have the knowledge, as well as those who have our best interests at heart, it will help us make our own decision on the matter.
No matter what, this would be so heartbreaking.
Interesting. I was thinking specifically about those rape cases. How can it be OK to kill a baby if pregnancy results from rape, but not when otherwise conceived? Can one kill a living 2-year-old because he was conceived from a rape? No, you get life for murder for that. It has to be because abortion isn't the 'taking of a human life' but maybe it is only the 'taking of a potential human life' ? That could be why it is 'abortion' and not a 'murder', since one can repent of abortion but not from murder 1?. I don't know, but I don't find a direct answer here either, in this sermon by Dr Nelson.
@@Charlie-xu4zh you absolutely can repent for abortion AND murder. And you can be forgiven for both at some pooint. Abortion can lead to loss of membership, but since it isn't usually considered a crime of the magnitude of murder (according to the laws of the land), you probably won't lose your freedom. But, if somemone kills a pregnant woman, they are charged with two murders so the life is still seen as valuable.
Also, kind of a false premise to equate killing a 2 year old born from rape with ending a pregnancy caused by rape.
The point is not to further traumatize the victim by forcing the pregnancy to continue when they were the victim of sexual violence. Abortion on demand is about geting out of the inconvenient consequences your CHOICES resulted in.
@@cranberrymarmalade9081 "AND murder" No, I don't think you. Murder, the pre-meditated planned or 1st degree is beyond the reach of the atonement, as King David found out. Several prophets have taught that and it's in D&C. Even investigators who confess to murder 1 (ie premeditated like Kind David) can't be baptised. And yes, you can repent of abortion (because it isn't 1st-degree murder). Then, Ok, don't compare it to a 2-month-old, compare it to a 2-day-old baby, can you kill that 2-day-old if it's the result of a rape or incest? but you can end a pregnancy which is the result of a rape or incest, even if the mom is young and healthy and certain to carry the fetus to term. So they aren't the same case.
But how else will Baalzebub, Dagon, and Moloch be appeased in modern times!?!?
By worshipping Jesus?
Wow, what an odd question... Hhmmm
Yep. It’s a bit hard today to build a big metal statue outside the city wall where people can make their sacrifices to those Gods; much easier to put an abortion clinic on every city corner and have it paid for by taxpayers. Satan just evolved his evil practices.
LIFE . Period .
LIFE comma Exclamation point exclamation point
"The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:
Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or
A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or
A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth."
-Church Newsroom.
So the LDS church IS NOT anti-abortion or pro-life.
Thank you so much for saying that. Im a Latter day Saint who has never been in a situation that was life threatening. I was able to have my children without issue. Some moms are not so lucky. There have to some allowances for those dire situations, which is NOT the maga stance.
I just feel good listening to the prophet's talks. Warm fuzzy feelings.
Therefore, it only stands to reason that an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints CANNOT vote democrat. At least nowadays.
I was at this conference and remember this talk. It was impressive in its clarity. However, there is a significant difference between what is said here in this conference talk and what is provided in the church handbook when I was in the bishopbrick. At the time the handbook for leaders was not widely distributed. The handbook at the time was nowhere near as clear as this short and clear talk. It said that in cases where there was clear evidence of disability or where the life of the mother was at stake, that the decision should be made with (I am paraphrasing now) prayerful consideration of the parents, and was not clear like this talk. Very different advice than the example given of Sister Brown in the talk. On a personal level, President Nelson calls out that only 3% of all pregnancies are a situation where life of the mother is at risk or due to rape or incest. It is interesting that he did not directly address this in his talk. He simply said it is only 3%. Yet many members of the church support legislation that effectively deny that 3% from a decision that they should make. My wife had an ectopic pregnancy years ago. The medical advice was to terminate the pregnancy with medication that killed that child to save the life of my wife. There was very little medical controversy about what would have happened to my wife had she not moved forward with the abortion. However, in November of that same year (a few months later) she was diagnosed with late stage breast cancer. At that moment she should have been pregnant and we would have had to make the decision to either treat my wife with chemo that would have been terminal for the child and might have been life saving for her. My point is our laws should have allowed us to make that decision and would have at that time. Laws in many states today would not have allowed my wife and I to make that horrendous decision now. It should not be left to an ineffective law to make that decision for us. In many states even the ectopic pregnancy would be considered an illegal abortion today. Now, more than 20 years later the reality is that chemotherapy, blessings, and a lot of fasting did not save my wife. She died a few years later from breast cancer. We had no children together. While I personally would never choose an abortion for "convenience" I want to be clear my wife and I made a clear decision to abort a child to save her life and would have again for a better chance of her survival during cancer treatment. While we were both grateful we did not have to make that more morally ambiguous question. We discussed it multiple times while she was getting treatment. These are decisions that are life changing and faith testing and in my opinion this talk touches none of the real world problems with these decisions. And in the 3% of cases and in cases where severe disability are clear, I think that President Nelson chose not to discuss these and simply said that they are only 3% of the cases and then went on to highlight a few cases where disability is likely but not known at the time of the decision. Members should have more compassion for those who do have to make the tough decisions that will define your life and you will wonder about forever and recognize that laws should realistically consider them too. Sorry for the long comment.
Well said!!!! I agree!!!!
Absolutely 100% agree with you. This is a hard topic. Being a member of the LDS church is important to me, my wife is my true salvation. Oh, one thing I try to live is love thy neighbor., Forgiveness, and expectance.
Yes. I, too, have been very concerned about the recent legislation that do not provide exceptions for rape, incest, and medical necessity like the situation you're describing with your wife. And some of the states *technically* allow for these provisions, but the punishments are so harsh (i.e. the doctors' permanently losing their medical licenses) that some doctors in those states are reportedly afraid to perform even medically necessary abortions in the emergency room, for fear that their license will be challenged.
This research may have already been done, but I think it would also be useful to interview women who had abortions and find out why they chose to have one. I know many young couples (married and not) who describe themselves as "baby hungry" but they know that they simply can't afford a child with the low paying jobs that they have. My limited understanding is that a significant chunk of the non-medically necessary, non-rape, non-incest related abortions are because the women realize that they would not have help from the biological father (research shows that on average ~1/3 pay full child support, ~1/3 pay only some, and the remainder pay none at all) and that the mother's current career could not possibly support a child-- let alone childcare. While I would obviously I would prefer for people to not engage in pre-marital/extra-marital sex in the first place (because it would leave them happier, their lives less complicated, leave them at lower risk for STDs, etc.) I wonder if policies that support parents better overall here in the U.S. would convince more of that ~97% to go through with the pregnancy and therefore avoid the death of the child via abortion by supporting the parents. So, for example, the option of day care or pre school as part of the public school system so that parents know they have a reliable way to work. Or medicare for children, just like we do for the elderly so that the children that are born have reliable access to healthcare. I'm not at all up to date on the research of what works (or works best), but whatever policies have been shown to actually reduce childhood poverty and provide support for the parents to be able to work.
That's not an abortion because that pregnancy was never viable in the first place.
@@adaly4649I accept brother Nelson’s teachings and find them appropriate from the church perspective. I am totally opposed to the government legislating abortion. It is abhorrent to have the law force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term. I think it is the devils work to control and oppress. For the sake of the 3% Roe V Wade should be the law of the land.
"Choice is sealed by action" Very nice.
@@wkblack Rape and incest is not a choice!!!!!
One and a half million a year in the United States in the 70's. I wonder how many it is today. What a needed message today.
Last I checked it has been dropping, till it's half million on average.
Still far to many.
Birth control, honest access birth control for teenagers, proper complete information for teenagers in sexuality, pregnancy and birth control, moderates in both parties have encouraged these methods of reducing abortion.
Many times, women who regret aborting their unborn child, have said if just one person had supported them, it may have made a difference, since their parents and the father would not.
Since Roe vs. Wade, the total is around 65 million. A literal genocide.
It’s obscene how many members that think they are great examples are pro aborts.
I have known and loved this talk for nearly 30 years!!!
No one would give this talk today and that’s the problem
Why do you think that is? I'm not convinced they wouldn't, just that they haven't.
@_Squiggle_ the church leaders have softened their speech in these latter years. Just listen to a talk by Ezra Taft Benson on self reliance from the 70's, for example. They don't preach "fire and brimstone" from the pulpit anymore.
Between this talk by our prophet and His revelation on the correct name of the church, we are practically swimming in a flood of new and relevant revelation in these the latter days
Why would you say “drowning” when any new revelation is for our betterment more like a life jacket in life to protect us so we do not fall prey to the crafty and cunningness of the devil.
@@weightelk what new and relevant revelations are you referring to? I’m not sure there has been any defined revelation coming through todays church leaders as was in the past. The church’s name? That is an old revelation through Joseph Smith that President Nelson rightly emphasized and actually did something about. What else are you referring to that is relatively? Hope not the Covid shot that President Nelson pushed on the church!!! That was an unfortunate recommendation that was actually dangerous for many people.
This talk is nearly 50 years old. Read your handbook!!!!
Wish more churches had the gut to say this.
The Catholic Church has been steadfast in the defense of the unborn.
Mic drop indeed. So eloquently said!
I have posted this in my facebook group with ward members several times throughout the years, only 1 or 2 will ever comment. Sadly my ward is full of liberals. It's disgraceful,
Thank you for your efforts ❤️
The lds church will be 100% leftist (and therefore anti-Christ) if we keep our kids in Satan’s schools.
My Ward is the same way.😢
Good for them. The Savior was a liberal too!
Indeed that is disgraceful. Wheat and tares . . .
I think it might not be discussed today because it's already been said and elaborated upon. We've been warned, will the Lord repeat his warning? Maybe but maybe not. May God have mercy on our sinful nation.
The youth of today need this talk more than ever before as the voices of the world try to drown out the voice of the spirit.
Maybe not support candidates that support it either…..just sayin.
I can't believe how anyone these days can go to church and support the democrat party.
Not all Democrats are bad. And there are some very corrupt Republicans also.
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I’m with ya!!
@@lorraineorlando7424 agreed. We've been asked to read the BofM repeatedly...for me when the GADIANTON ROBBERS infiltrated the government working their secret combinations...my eyes were so completely opened.
I don't think they should be allowed to hold a temple recommend... But many do, people who support the Democrat agenda including abortion hold a temple recommend
It doesn’t take being a prophet or believer to know that ending the lives of infants is wrong. Sad that we would never hear this kind of talk from world faith leaders today.
My bishop wearing a rainbow Ruth Bader Ginsburg shirt and an EQP telling the ward to use preferred pronouns aren’t exactly reliable local resources on this or other topics either.
God Bless the Prophet forever.
I haven’t heard this talk since it was originally given. I was on my mission at the time. I’ve never forgotten it. Thank you for posting it.
Yet the Church Handbook of Instructions for decades has supported abortion in some circumstances. Most members have not read this part of the handbook.
Three rare circumstances. And it's prefectly understandable that these exceptions are given. And even then, it is counseled that the decison be made with much prayer. Many times, the decision is made to NOT abort.
ALL life is precious. It is not up to us to decide who lives and who does not receive this blessing! Those who are “infirm” can also be a great positive influence on those of us considered “normal.” They can teach us unlimited love and compassion if we are humble and willing to learn.
It’s amazing to me that science hopes to find life on other planets and moons, even if it is microscopic. But when a husband and wife create a life far too many times those cells are not considered life till almost born. I am confused at that kind of thinking!
powerful. i remember when this talk was given and at that point only a small group was so radical...now, we have a whole party that has become consumed by it, the bloodbath of abortion. it's sickening
Powerful!!!
Nobody has the right to take another person's life.
What's crazy is that government assisted/coerced suicide is legal in Canada now.
Yes , anything to push the global Depopulation AGENDA! We have GODLESS LEADERS!
3% of deaths in Canada are medically assisted suicide.
This is true doctrine!I tremble to think what judgments may befall our world as a result of such disregard for human life!
Spot on
A powerful reminder that our modern prophets have spoken so clearly, so boldly, and so inspiringly. If politicians followed this path even in small measure our entire country would feel a great flow of hope and honest guidance.
Catholic Answers recently released a video contrasting LDS and Catholic beliefs on abortion. For me, I feel that rape and incest for practical reasons justify an abortion but not for moral reasons. The mother is robbed of her agency to choose, yes, but what of the child? The child has become the criminal? What exactly are we protecting if we don’t include these children?
I honestly feel the church is soft on the rape issue to get people into a conversation and then hopefully convince the woman not to abort. Church’s website says while there may be an allowance for rape one must counsel with church leaders first. I think if the church said no to rape many wouldn’t bother sitting down to talk about it first. They may just go get the abortion. That’s just my thought. Cause I agree, a life is a life. And murdering your child doesn’t heal the wound of a rape. Technically even life if the mother is a farce. You can remove the child without killing it if mom’s life is in danger and depending on the age can either save it or give it end of life care. Abortions intentionally kill a baby before removal.
Well it is said the innocent suffer for the sake of the wicked not to say the mother is wicked but some people cant nor should be forced to bear a heavy cross for sadly that child will be a constant reminder of that event and sometimes its not easy to not put that crime on the child even though they were simply the byproduct of it
Adoption has been proven to be healthier for the mother - something good and beautiful to overcome the tragedy. It's not just "force to keep the child" or "abort". A third solution exists
@@sarahwhite3994 100% agree
@@solisprime2669That line of thinking makes sense, and I’ve heard it before, but still, if we believe that the mother and the child are distinct persons I am not sure how this too is not a morally dubious response to an injustice. To assume it is too great a burden for a child is like saying that we should abort children in low income, broken homes because it is unlikely their life will be much good which is an argument used often by champions of Choice.