Short Scale Bass Shootout - Small Bass Guitars Or Giant Men?
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So stupid that people still think short scale basses are only for kids and beginners. Plenty of great bass players have played short scales over the decades dummies, and some exclusively. You get more thump and bottom end out of short scale basses and many of us actually prefer the tone, faster necks and superior playability to a 34 inch scale.
Yeah, I don't get why people think that. Paul McCartney uses a Hofner Violin and that's a short scale. Yeah. he's used a few others but his main one is one of the two Hofner Violins he got in the 60s
Bill Wyman played a Fender Mustang Bass while he was with The Rolling Stones, and that is a short scale bass.
just thought i would ask the top comment. but is it possible to replace the neck of a short scale bass like the mustang with a regular scale length neck
well looks like I don't need to watch the video now
As a session guy, short scale basses are amazing for tracks that have a lot going on. But honestly, people can still not like them as much so I can buy a vintage mustang for much less. ;)
As someone who has been playing bass for longer than guitar, I don't understand how normal scale basses are normal to most bassists. I feel like I'm gonna get Arthritis in my hands by just playing one
Lol😂
i'm a fender guy but i really dig that gretsch's look and sound
I have, and had, many full scale Fenders, but I still prefer my Gretsch 2220 and 2202!
I think Fender own grestch
@@louie8604 they do Indeed, still they aren't the same instruments by design
No one can tell when it’s a short scale bass when they are listening to a song - so get what you love.
I recently bought a Mustang bass and it is one of the best purchases I have ever made. I'm a guitar player. A full size bass felt unusual because I was already used to the guitar scale length. The mustang is easy to play and sounds great.
I recently switched back to bass after years of playing guitar and also picked up the Mustang. Really an amazing sounding and easy to play instrument! I caught the Sonic Blue one on sale but dang that Capri Orange one looks cool.
I'd really like them if they had 21 frets but 19 frets is a massive deal breaker for me.
@@markhawksford785 Yeah plus it's very hard to reach those top frets without contorting your hand a lot. That was a deal breaker for me.
@@markhawksford785 Why are you playing that high? No good reason.
Exactly the same thoughts here. Going from many years of guitar, to trying bass, was a “stretch”, literally! Your Mustang is awesome. I found a short scale Ibanez and have had so much fun learning how to play it. Since you posted 2 years ago, are you liking this bass? Rock on!!!
I always love it when a big dude plays a short-scale bass. Makes him look even more huge XD
You like huge big dudes?
Me xD they’re great basses but I’m a big dude
or a tiny person playing a giant bass
Imagine if pino played mustang bass
@@hirokokueh3541 As a short scale adult, that's my current situation
I had 31" custom built from Mattisson Bass. It's amazing and definitely not quirky looking :)!
For your Royal Blood cover band
Was looking for this comment :D
I feel attacked
ya got me
Need a ton of effects too
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels on youtube
I’ve never played a short scale bass, but have been looking into them online because my niece is having difficulty with a standard scale due to the size of her hands. The more I learn about them, the more I find myself wondering why the hell I’ve been playing a 34 inch bass for twenty years, and why any bassist would play one when a short scale is available. The only “advantage” that anyone seems able to name for full scale is more prominence of overtones and less prominence of the fundamental, and I find it difficult to conceive of that as any kind of advantage. Less overtones sounds like bass heaven to me.
I come for the duo bass jams. Lights up my morning.
I second the comment about the Ibanez Mikro. Looks and sounds great and plays very well. Everyone who trys mine...doesn't want to give it back.
You guys should put together a video compilation of all of the intros to your videos! Completely dig all the intro jams! Seriously. Totally cool!
Love my Ibanez Mikro bought a yr after this video was published. Was looking at a Gretsch Junior Jet in Tobacco Burst in the store today. Very cool
My first bass in 1965 was a Gibson EB 0 (Zero, not O as in Ocean). Left the band and sold it in '69. 54 years later I decided to start playing again. Vintage EB 0's in good shape are Thousand$. Pleasantly surprised to find a new Epiphone EB 0, an exact replica of my old Gibson, for $239. I recalled why the Humbucker was called a mudbucker back in the day. I was never able to clean up the muddy sound, but still enjoy playing it occasionally. Next up was a Squire Bass Six which is also a short scale (Also used by the Beatles in the studio) Really like it, but in the end, and after I smashed my pinkie, I got a Fender Mustang. Absolutely love it. Really enjoy how one adjusts the tone and point to the pickup. Great job.
I have the Gretsch with just one middle pickup and it's a little monster. It handles pedals very well and my only gripe is the neck dive on it. But for the price it is a very good instrument for everything: practice, shows, and recording. I share it with my younger brother since he can actually reach!
That Gretsch Junior Jet II bass sounds amazing!Instantly on the "to buy " list.
And doesn’t it cost less than the Jaguar Bass?
I have it and its awesome
I own both the Mustang PJ and the Gretsch jr. Jet. The Gretsch wins in all aspect except the resale value… but thankfully, it’s going nowhere.
Thanks so much. Really helpful.
I love how much they enjoy each others playing.
The Gretsch sounds the best to me by far. It's vintagy, defined and warm.
I bought one of them today, sounds absolutely incredible, and it's a good size for me, being a small guy who is in a wheelchair
I played an EBO bass in the late 60s and 70s what a great bass that was and all through Marshall and Ampeg.
Can think of one chap who's signature bass is slightly shorter scale that didn't get a mention in this... Going to be a frosty Christmas in the King household!
My lbanez mikro kicks ass live and in the studio. Not going back to the full size bass. Don't need to.
Played one of those Squier Jaguar basses once - it sounded good and was v comfortable.
Love the look of the Chowny, but they all sound great. The squier sounded more like a long scale than the others, and better than the Fender IMO. At that price is a steal.
You can't hear if someone is playing a short scale bass. Someone posted recordings of various basses in the talkbass.com forum a couple of years ago, and many people were absolutely convinced that one of the recordings was a long scale bass. With the exception of a few, they were wrong.
Good to know! The placebo effect is powerful.
It's a very prevalent thing. They did a test with brass instruments a few years ago to check if people could hear which metal alloys the inistruments were made of. So they constructed trumpets of expensive alloys and cheap tin, the same type used to make cans. In a blindfold test people were unable to hear tell the difference, even though there measureable differences according to a sound spectrometer. But when they took off the blindfold suddenly they were able to "hear" all kinds of differences.
And it's the same story with tonewood, very expensive instruments, etc.
I've had 2 Squier Jags (still have 1) and have played the Mustang PJ. The Stang is a better bass, but not worth almost 3X the price.
Have to say, I've been watching a lot of your videos, I'm finding them very helpful in selecting my first bass. The best bass guitars to my ears are the Epiphone EB series, the Fender PJ, and the Gretsch featured in this video.
great playing , great speed on scales , wow.
I just started playing bass with an Ibanez Talman TMB30, put Thomastik Roundwounds on it. It plays and sounds really great. Love it.
Did the jaguar short scale just disappeared from existence?! I can’t find it anywhere
SXP Sadly, Squier discontinued them. I managed to just get a ‘17 from a local shop.
Yes, it did.
Yes, but Squier has a 32" scale Jaguar called the Jaguar H (humbucker) soon to be available. Sells for $249.95.
But will we ever see Short Shcale Shootout Shickshty Shicksh? I bought the Squier (Shquier?) new on sale for $150 US, and it's a pretty amazing instrument for that price. Excellent fit and finish, cool looking black gloss paint job with matching headstock, and a wide variety of tones from the P/J pickups. I think it deserves a little more love and attention than it got here.
You guys should’ve brought in the Squier Bronco Bass, has an interesting tone with that single coil pickup and it’s 150 US
Do the squier bass guitars have a Mustang model, or is it only for Fender¿ I seen someone on ebay saying that they were selling a Squier Mustang bass, but it wasn't.
Wish Yamaha would make a short scale bass!!!
Shorty BB
Yamaha’s top models Basses are extremely well regarded in pro circles. So a high end Yamaha short scale would be quite something.
FWIW, I LOVE my Ibanez TMB30 30" scale bass. Great tones and very playable. I owned an Epi short scale for a short while but sold it. The Epi was a boat anchor and sounded a bit muddy to me.
I also tried the new Ibanez Mezzo 32" bass and sent it back. It had a weird chirpy tone that I just didn't care for. The Mezzo also had a tiny 1.490" nut width which made the neck feel like a toy.
I was wondering about those. And they are inexpensive.
The Ernie Ball Musician Silhouette Baritone/Bass Is pretty awesome. It's 29.5in. scale length and 6 strings, tuned E to E one octave below a guitar. The string spacing is about the same as a guitar. Schecter made the Hellraiser C6 baritone/bass, with active pickups, that is really good. They also made the Hellcat vi that is like the old fender Bass vi. It has Duncan strat pickups in it.
Please wich strings brand/model do you recomend for 27 inch scale bass guitar?? Tks !!
First short-scales on the market:
Gibson EB-1 Violin bass came out in 1953, followed by the ES styled Eb-2 and Double -Cut Paul shaped EB-0 came out in 1956.
Hofner Violin Basses came to the market in 1955.
Great review!!
I have comments...
1. It is refreshing to see real bassist using a variety of techniques reviewing short scale instruments.
2. Your two player format kicks butt. One guy riffing while the other fiddles with settings is brilliant.
3....The bad news...your treatment of our sitting President missed the mark.
He has really really really small hands and the fender is only slightly orange in comparison.
The Ibanez Mikro with 28.6 inch scale in Roadster Orange is more appropriate unless of course someone builds an orange bass ukelele.
Otherwise a fantastic review!
Hi guys, love your video's! When you do a sequence of the short scale bass shootout, can you please include the new Sire Marcus Miller U5 short scale?
You guys should do a demo of the Jackson JS1X Minion Concert Bass
I own a unknown name Short Scale Bass as my first instrument as a kid from like 1991, the Neck has bowed a bit over the years but is still my favorite to play. Wish i could find out more about it, it was used when I got it. the only writing on it is a metalic sticker saying "Equipped with POWERSOUND High Gain-Super Distortion Pick ups"
Super easy and fun to play, feels great super light, sounds wonderful. I honestly dont know why Short Scale Basses arnt more common.
The pickups were used in old cort and ibanez guitars and basses.
Duesenberg have a great short scale bass called the Starplayer, hard to find in the UK though. I think Andertons used to stock them but not anymore although they do have a Soundgarden model in but that's over twice as much than a regular one.
Must be pretty pricey….
Trying to decide between ibanez mikro and jackson minion. Any advice?
I’ve played the Squier Jaguar at a jam once. Very nice and bet it would be better with flatwounds
*Don't have the EB-0 in stock* 'LETS MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT SHORT SCALE BASS GUITARS!'
You’re forgetting that squire (despite its full scale) has a jaguar bass that comes with a bass boost/cut as well as with active pickups
The short scale bass goes back to the 1950s with Gibson's EB 1..& EBO...as well as Danelectro short scale basses .
I love how you boys "humanize" playing an instrument. It's about having fun and you don't have to spend a lot to do it.
OK boomer
I love the Gretsch for its tone, looks, playability and range of finishes. For quirkiness and some different tones, why not look at the Epiphone Allen Woody Signature? Great value too!
I bought the gretsch 2nd hand like 3 weeks ago I am really happy with it! I am a drummer wanting to start bass and I have been playing 2-3 hours per day since then!! Really good one. Buy one you will enjoy
I have a question about pulling ropes. I find the original strings (45-105) too soft. What pulling do you use to avoid this problem?
thank you!
Get a heavier gauge (50-110) should resolve that problem pretty quickly
Are these any good for Reggae with the deep crisp bass sound?
I'm late to this party but . . . I have the Stingray short scale, a 1975 Fender JB, and a newer Fender Player JB. I actually like playing the Stingray much more. It has a terrific grumble yet we can get the softer tones, as well. Still, I'll always be a committed Fender bass guy.
Look like electric tenor guitars. Just got me an acoustic short-scale base. And have ordered the uke bass rubber strings to mess around with. Thanks for the video.
What would you recommend for a lefty?
Since ya made this video lads, Ibanez introduced a medium 32” scale bass that also bears looking at. It sells for about 300 quid and is an amazing instrument. The Talman also can be had with a long scale set up.
I play the Ibanez Mikro I bought for my son a lot. Love it. My Fender Coronado gets more play than my American Jazz. Short Scale is where it's at.
nice, my first Andertons Bass video,
That Mustang is a beauty !
Looking to get the Gretsch I like the new walnut stain color but that has a walnut fretboard... the black has a rosewood... I don't play bass...yet. Anyone with experienced have a recommendation...on whether the rosewood board is worth getting my second favorite color??? Anyone like walnut? Haven't played a walnut board guitar. Usually rosewood...or ebony.
LOVE the concept for this video b/c I love me a SS bass! Damn I wish a classic Mustang Bass could've been in the mix... pups and bridge are different, especially with the mutes installed.
The Ibanez Artcore series of basses are shortscale too!
Is it harder to slap on a short scale due to lower tension?
Agree with others, totally incomplete without the iconic Hofner "Beatle Bass" style, though the Epiphone Viola is a better version, really.
In the seventies I knew of Guild's M85, beautiful axe, and the Hagstrom Sweede, both quality short scale basses.
I had cervical fusion of every disk in my neck, so I'm going to have to change basses. I currently have two 34" basses, a four string and a five string. It's really difficult for me to play because of limited movement of my neck. I was looking at getting a Fender Mustang, but I really like that Gretsch. I like the sound and the look; it seems to have that really good bass sound. I saw a demo with a Serek Midwestern 2; it was really nice.
Thank you :D
I need one 💜
The Ibanez Mikros are actually pretty good basses. Comes in 4 and 5 string, hardware is decent, and the pickups are also good. It feels like a real bass, whereas the Squier, Fender and Gretsch to me feel cheap. Haven't tried a Chowny but can't say that it's worth the $350 difference based on the active preamp alone. You guys should demo the Ibanez Mikro, you actually might like them and they sell like hotcakes as travel basses.
I'm not a huge fan of ibanez but I agree with your statement. i actually have a Chowney and it's one of the best basses i've ever owned.
Yeah I have the GRG20 Mikro Bass and its pretty good. I'm a fairly novice Bass player (guitarist mainly) but I would struggle to criticise it and for the money I'm really not going to complain or replace it...
I have an Ibanez Mikro bass. It does the job very well. I would also like to see a demo with the Ibanez Mikro VS. the Jackson Dinky Minion bass.
I don't know about that.. I mean it's a question of personnal preferences. My friend got a Mustang bass and it plays really well. As a fact, I asked him to borrow it for a gig and I ended up playing more songs on that than my Alembic.
I have a Squier Bronco Bass and I adore it. It's interesting in that it has a 6-pole Stratocaster pickup, which you think wouldn't sound very good, but it's the best sounding bass I've ever played. It's bright, snappy, and responsive, and sits VERY well in a mix, which is important, since my band only has 3 members, so our bassist (not me, I'm rhythm guitar and lead vocals) doesn't have to worry about us drowning him out.
I scored an 36" total length Arbor P-bass guitar a sub company of Hohner, made in '85 or '86, solid wood, solid maple neck. Sounds like a stand up bass, not so good at loud volumes, so am dropping in a Seymour Duncan 1/4 pounder and new wiring that little bass is gonna thump! - P
Thinking about getting the gretsch one to do some solo dooms stuff with.
God that intro was awesome. Grudgey and crunching away with all that growling.
You forgot the Reverend Dub King and Mike Watt Wattplower signature!
Sorry, I copied and pasted this from my post in their later addition to this series. It's actually more appropriate here -> For those of you watching this wondering about purchasing a short scale bass, I am not a student, a child, or a guitar player, and I have average-sized hands, but I bought a Squier Jaguar SS short (30") scale because it sounds great, has a comfortable reach, feels good against my body (much like a Jazz), and is light to wear on my shoulder. After playing it and listening to it, I don't know why people need a 34" neck on their basses, unless perhaps they have large hands. All things equal, the strings will be a little looser (which some people might prefer), but you can tighten them up (reducing fret rattling) by getting heavier gauge strings and/or flatwounds, which require more tension.
I keep thinking about trading in my thunderbird for a short scale because as an electric guitarist I find it too long, but the tone is good. 1st world problems...
Krish Patel I’ll take the thunderbird if you want 😉
What did you end up doing?
Come on guys.... what about all the Wyman framus basses and McCartney’s Hofner?! Were modern bassists really born yesterday? Stanley Clarke’s Alembics were all 30” too! You’ve got to do a bit of googling before you jump in front of the camera. Know your heritage!!! 😀
Paul Grimsley - it's a shoot out of short scale basses for sale by Andertons. Its not a lesson on the entire history of shorties.
Yeah! Hofner, Vox, Framus, SG bass... Historic axes!!
Not to mention the Vintage Gibson EB basses.
I know its way more money...but the spector bantam is amazing. Sounds like a long scale bass but 30inches
I hope that the Ibanez Mikro and Talman basses will appear in the sequel.
Looking forward to your SSSO #2 because I think you missed a very important "Corvette-ish" entry in this class: The Supro Huntington I/II/III. Phenomenal range of tone available even without its optional bridge piezo. Mix that in and the range goes thru the roof; nicely counteracting the claim that short-scales can't deliver the high-end punch. Those who continue to claim that shorties are just for kids I can guarantee haven't taken this Ferrari out for a spin.
No magical photo.. Denied! O.o
I have a Squier Bronco that I got for $130 and I love it. I play it more than my Fender Jazz Bass. So much so that I'm actually selling the jazz bass and only keeping the Bronco. I kind of want to grab one of the Ibanez Talman TMB30s but I haven't actually seen one in person to get a good feel.
I have both the Mustang and the TMB30. On price the TMB30 wins. On sound they are both great. Fender edges it on looks, but only because there are few colour options on the Ibanez. The Fender is better made for sure, but that's not to say the Ibanez isn't a quality bass. I guess what I'm trying to say is - You need both! I'm recording this weekend and will be using both.
I have a Fender six string short scale bass....ideal for me
I found that the Mustang sounds good and feels nice to play sitting down, but the neck dives to the floor when on a strap. The same applies to the Chowney, although the neck dive isn't as bad as with the Mustang. I have recently acquired a second hand Gretsch G2220. In my opinion, it has the best sound of the three and balances well on a strap (very important if using it on a gig). I think it would probably sound great with flatwounds on. The pickups are single coil, by the way, not humbuckers (The Gretsch Guitars website confirms this).
I jumped from Fender jazz basses (3) to a Gibson Lp tribute DC in worn ebony and it the greatest. I’m gonna add the Gretsch G2220 so as for a backup. The fenders are too heavy, not liking the sound anymore either. Short scale basses are a real blessing for me. The push-pull knob works on the Gibson like it’s supposed too and the 3-way on the Gretsch will do what it’s supposed to I have two Gibson Les Pauls Double cut 6 string guitars from the late 50’s ones a junior. They are light, killer tone and already claimed by my kids. I’m sorry I didn’t get Gibson bass sooner
Wow that gretch is sometin i should keep an eye on its pretty punchy.
You should have included the Epiphone Viola! I've got one, it's fantastic value for money and surprisingly versatile. Not to mention it looks badass :-)
Hofner also has great short scale basses at a range of different price points.
It’s all about that Scott Whitely bass!
Jack Bruce's EB-3 Bill Wyman's,Trevor Bolder all short scale players from back in the day.
I am Torn between: these 3 Short Scale"s: Stingray from Sterling by Music Man, Fender Mustang PJ or the G & L Fallout? Any Input would really Help this guitar player in need of it?
Get a proper F Jazz and man up.
Late to this party so you've probably already decided...but my two cents. I've played SS for the past few years & my favorite is the G&L Tribute Fallout SS, followed closely by the SBMM StingRay SS. Primarily because of the pickup location & the MFD pickup itself. Third is the Squier VM Jaguar SS...I find it on par with the MIM Mustang PJ. Full disclosure I own the G&L, SBMM & Squire...wouldn't let go of any of them.
I own a 1975 music master bass I actually prefer that over a standard length bass.
All basses sound great, actually. But the Chowny surprised me with its myriad of tones. Wow.
No mention of Hofner, Epi Viola or Jack Casady, Guild Starfire, or any hollowbody models?
Lee looks peng in that jag bass!! 🐈 🎸
❤ ill save up to buy one one day:)
Have you heard back from Fender? Hahahahaha, too funny. I hope Fender wasn't too angry. I have the active Mahogany Scott Whitley SWB-1 by Chowny. I love it!
You left out the Squier Bronco Bass. Their production is still ongoing, and Fender has been making them for over 20 years.
I don’t like orange but the Fender looks really nice, I’m looking for a SS bass, that could be the one.
and specially for the lovers of the word mahogany; the brilliant; The Residents & Renaldo and the Loaf - Title in Limbo - 05 - Mahogany Wood
There are some cool short scale basses out there,but to me there's only one worth its weight,that's the eb0
That little Gretcsh seems to be a pretty mighty little beast. I would be tempted to buy a long scale version but I doubt the short scale would suit my frame being over 6' tall. It could be worth checking out though.
James Lewis its funny I had an old one long scale too and it was not as farty it was really muddy even with new strings
You guys only spent about 10 seconds playing the jaguar. The one I'm going to buy. Been playing for a decade or so now, and I want to see how the shorter scales feel. I figure I'll get the jag and put some emg gzrs in it and make a playing ramp for it. The idea is big sound and comfortable to play.