You don't mention it here but many pistons (not sure about Ross) have the pin offset to one side and want that oriented a certain way in the block. Usually there is an arrow or dot indicating which way faces the front of the block. Since you have custom machined valve reliefs that means that 4 pistons must be used on one side and 4 on the other, in order to keep things straight. Hopefully the lettering on the pistons takes that into account.
Great point! Yeah, the Ross pistons have centered pins, the offset is on the crank journal portion of the rod. And, of course, yes ... pay attention to the valve reliefs, they all need to be pointed to the center of the block. Thanks!
Great video as always Mike. One thing to mention for people who’ve never done this is the importance of keeping the crank still while doing the plastigauge as it can skew the results very slightly if there’s any movement. I can’t wait to get mine back together too!
Thanks Josh! Yeah, I should've shed some more light on the whole "don't let the crank, or rod, turn on the journal with the plastigauge in there". Which would have happened, if I tried to torque down those caps when the Crank was on my work bench. Thanks, as usual!
I know this is an old thread but getting ready to build a 461 butler kit myself and I am new to this. I have to ask. I understand that the chamfer side of the rods face the crank but is there anything else that dictates the orientation of the rods?
Congrats Jerry! yup, the Chamfer is the dead giveaway. Keep asking questions, and what the videos as many times as needed. Be patience, take your time, but go fast. ha, ha... see ya!
Welp, you either have the wrong rod, OR your set up requires the pin to be pressed into the rod . I'd work with your local engine builder to figure that out. Good luck!
Yah there all fun for us viewers, but then all we do is sit back and watch. And drewal while you put together the eye candy that becomes mechanical mayhem. By the way , I have to agree those Pistons and rods are Bad Ass Jewelry.! Anyway brother best of luck putting together what I think will definitely be a BEAST . Can't wait for the following videos.👍✌
Ohh I almost forgot just because you drive a GTO ! Does not mean you can talk like Matthew Maconahea. I am assuming you saw the Movie , Dazed and Confused if not watch it. It's pretty funny.😂✌
@@johnkennedy8452 Thing about highschool girls... I get older, they stay the same age... baahhahaha love that movie, and it has some of the baddest musclecars around, including that 70 Judge.
Thanks. Very informative. If I ever get around to rebuilding a Pontiac between your videos, and Rocky's and Jim's books I'm sure I'll not screw it up too too bad. :)
Ha! Thanks Chris... I figure since I gotta do it, might as well film it for others to see what to do... and sometimes, what not to do. :) Thanks again.
Basically a poorly plumbed PCV System... here's the solution, and more info as to why a proper PCV is essential. th-cam.com/video/fdYFieOOGq4/w-d-xo.html Have fun!
Hey Mike, nice Matthew McConaughey reference! From a great GTO movie 🍿. How many horsies do you expect the old girl to be putting out once you get her dialed in?
Ha, ha... yeah, I'll quote him from time to time... and, clearly, I love that movie too. Not sure about the horses... I'm thinking 550+. BUT, the torque is gonna be around 600. Thanks for the comment!
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You don't mention it here but many pistons (not sure about Ross) have the pin offset to one side and want that oriented a certain way in the block. Usually there is an arrow or dot indicating which way faces the front of the block. Since you have custom machined valve reliefs that means that 4 pistons must be used on one side and 4 on the other, in order to keep things straight. Hopefully the lettering on the pistons takes that into account.
Great point! Yeah, the Ross pistons have centered pins, the offset is on the crank journal portion of the rod. And, of course, yes ... pay attention to the valve reliefs, they all need to be pointed to the center of the block. Thanks!
Great video as always Mike. One thing to mention for people who’ve never done this is the importance of keeping the crank still while doing the plastigauge as it can skew the results very slightly if there’s any movement. I can’t wait to get mine back together too!
Thanks Josh! Yeah, I should've shed some more light on the whole "don't let the crank, or rod, turn on the journal with the plastigauge in there". Which would have happened, if I tried to torque down those caps when the Crank was on my work bench. Thanks, as usual!
Nice
Agreed! Thanks!
You make me want to take my 400 Trans Am apart and also really hope I do not need too at the same time! Living vicariously thru you...
Do it, do it, do it... ha, ha... I know the feeling, glad I can help you live an alternate life. Thanks for the comment!
Mike - I really appreciate the videos! You've helped me a lot with my 461 build, keep up the good work!
Great to hear! Glad they're helping.... see ya!
I know this is an old thread but getting ready to build a 461 butler kit myself and I am new to this. I have to ask. I understand that the chamfer side of the rods face the crank but is there anything else that dictates the orientation of the rods?
Congrats Jerry! yup, the Chamfer is the dead giveaway. Keep asking questions, and what the videos as many times as needed. Be patience, take your time, but go fast. ha, ha... see ya!
Hey. What if the wrist pin does not fit the rod bore. And the piston has sirclips
Welp, you either have the wrong rod, OR your set up requires the pin to be pressed into the rod . I'd work with your local engine builder to figure that out. Good luck!
Yah there all fun for us viewers, but then all we do is sit back and watch. And drewal while you put together the eye candy that becomes mechanical mayhem. By the way , I have to agree those Pistons and rods are Bad Ass Jewelry.! Anyway brother best of luck putting together what I think will definitely be a BEAST . Can't wait for the following videos.👍✌
Thanks John! Always appreciated!
Ohh I almost forgot just because you drive a GTO ! Does not mean you can talk like Matthew Maconahea. I am assuming you saw the Movie , Dazed and Confused if not watch it. It's pretty funny.😂✌
@@johnkennedy8452 Thing about highschool girls... I get older, they stay the same age... baahhahaha love that movie, and it has some of the baddest musclecars around, including that 70 Judge.
@@FastMonty all right - all right all right.😂👅👍
@@FastMonty what’s funny is that I believe there were 2 cars and they were both Judge clones. Still nice cars though!
Always looking forward to a new episode
Thanks Roddy!
Thanks. Very informative. If I ever get around to rebuilding a Pontiac between your videos, and Rocky's and Jim's books I'm sure I'll not screw it up too too bad. :)
Ha! Thanks Chris... I figure since I gotta do it, might as well film it for others to see what to do... and sometimes, what not to do. :) Thanks again.
Hey man why did the motor have oil starvation?
Basically a poorly plumbed PCV System... here's the solution, and more info as to why a proper PCV is essential. th-cam.com/video/fdYFieOOGq4/w-d-xo.html Have fun!
Can't wait to here this run!
Me too Paul, me too... :)
Nice, she's gonna haul Mike!
I can't wait! Thanks Brother!
Hey Mike, nice Matthew McConaughey reference! From a great GTO movie 🍿. How many horsies do you expect the old girl to be putting out once you get her dialed in?
Ha, ha... yeah, I'll quote him from time to time... and, clearly, I love that movie too. Not sure about the horses... I'm thinking 550+. BUT, the torque is gonna be around 600. Thanks for the comment!
How can you run out of time with a 13 min video? I was just getting into it. I think a 45 min video would be awesome.
Ha! Thanks John, I think you're the exception. You could wait a couple weeks and start binging. ha, ha... thanks again!