Thanks for your patience, for people who don't understand how hard you work on these old classic vehicles.I would be proud to let you work on any vehicle I own classic or otherwise, best regards, I enjoy all your videos
Critic's be damned, this is one of my favorite YT channels. Don't let the know it alls ruin it for you. This car was and is a learning experience. Great job Dude!
Lol, I can remember seeing Studebakers on the dirt tracks, trying to keep up with the Mercs and Chevys (not to reveal my age or anything), and some of them had a clutch on the blower so it handled better in the corners. I saw two of these at a local garage, a Hawk and a Silver Hawk. The owner was trying to install a Chevy power train built around a 350, while using the Hawk as a parts car for the body and interior. Sadly he did not have your patience and later scrapped them both. I really enjoy your videos of bringing these classics, including the Studebaker, back to life. Keep it up, we will all watch and cheer you on.
My first car was a 69' polara with a 383 two barrel...even came across a 1966 4 door Polara with I think the last year of a big block 318?..the car was awesome...I am 62 now but in 79 and early 80's I had access to a lot of ol
Found it! Haha! Roast them haters, mate. You aint doing anything weird like pouring metal filings into the carb to speed up the running in process or nailing the carpet to the floor....but in case you think of trying that last one, the only way it works is if you clamp a piece of wood underneath the car for the nail to go into. Works a treat - and if it's long enough, it also reinforces the rusty metal on a soft floorpan so your feet don't go through it.
Old vehicles are an exercise in self punishment, patience and problem solving. The more hands that have been involved on a vehicle the more the first three things come into play
Being an old MOPAR tech, I also enjoyed the Studebaker video as I also like AMC stuff also. As I grew into the car field in the sixties, I veered toward Chrysler projects and AMC as they always seemed ahead of the competition in coming out with new technology.
This is very entertaining to a lifetime Studebaker person like myself. Most of your issues are due to modifications. Original parts are plentiful for Studebaker's.
Oh my word, I have not seen a video responding to internet experts in ages, that was great. Thank you and as one Mopar person to another who also loves Studebakers, I think this is great! Carry on sir, carry on...
Well, we Chevy guys think that "Mopar lover = moron" anyway, but that's just us! 😉 We like the same breakfast food, tho. Great video series - keep up the good work!
Thank you for addressing that antique car restoration is nothing like what you see on TV! I have a solid theory that every overpriced project car for sale on Facebook marketplace is being sold by someone whose only actual antique car experience is what they have learned on cable TV car shows and auctions and believe them to be ‘spot on’ reliable regarding how easy old cars are to both restore and to market and resell. Funny how even after the car’s third year of being listed for sale without any price reduction, the seller still holds onto those fantasies?
Man what an awesome video! My grandfather had a Studebaker Hawk in 1960's I don't remember if it was supercharged? I think it might've been because I remember hearing stories of him being quicker than other's but I'm not sure if was charged or not, Beautiful car! Seriously cool your taking care of it!
Don't pay attention to those keyboard jockeys. They couldn't drive a 3 on the tree if they had to. Mom, What's this third pedal for ? Great car. You do what you have to do to make things work on older cars. !!! Good job !. Thx for sharing.
The Hawk is awesome, it's just so much fun to see old technology at work. When it does work, it seems like it's always a moment away from breaking down.
actually Studebaker used both 4 BBL and 2 BBL. the earlier golden hawks had the older McCulloch superchargers 2 BBL carb inside a pressure box. I have this configuration on my 59 hawk with a supercharged 259 v8. I also got a lot of greif from the purists for my build. Just ignore the arm chair experts and keep doing what you are doing. You are learning a new engine and you are doing very well.
Cool to hear of someone else doing a non-original but still officially Stude supercharger mod! I'm the owner of the car in the vid. An old-timer in the Stude community told me something to the effect of, "Really, you probably could've ordered a supercharged Studebaker in '59-'62, it just would've been a special order. The company was tanking too hard for them to refuse any business at all." So, not that you or I need justification for building the car we really want...but I liked hearing that. And it's probably true! Hope you're enjoying your hot '59.
Atta boy Jamie. Stay after it until it behaves - and honestly, with the quality of gas these days and given the "build" of that engine, it may just come down to not running vacuum advance at all (mechanical only). My '68 440 is that way now - it flat out hates any vacuum advance being applied (and yes, Ma says *ported* as well), so it runs a Direct Connection electronic ignition conversion kit with 12 initial/36 all in advance and loves it (and doesn't rattle, just as important). It no doubt costs a little fuel economy, but with the purpleshaft in it, I wasn't going to get any anyways. Enjoyed the episode as always and we'll see you next time. - Ed on the Ridge
Many of the people who are commenting negatively are probably watching you do something they have never done and will never attempt to do. This doesn't stop them from telling you how to do it their way. If such commenters aren't being helpful, ignore them.
Your doing a great job and I am leaning very much !!! Don't bother with those trolls ! Hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving !!! Thanks for all the info and entertainment !!!
Well Jamie looks like you are slowly but surely working out all those bugs out of the Ole Studebaker, I admire your patients and persistence with it. Sure is a beautiful car, your friend is lucky to have her, looks like it's going to be a lot of fun when you are done with it!
Enjoying the Studebaker vids AND your channel. It's great when you get into other projects outside the usual stuff. Your responses to comments were awesome.
There are probably only about 5 hundred of those cars maybe less you are working on a rare piece of history and I can't feel your pain. Nice work Jamie.
ported vacuum was used on many engines of all makes from the 30's as far as I know. my 59 Rambler v8 uses pored vacuum on a 2v Holley. some manufacturers didn't use any vacuum port to save a dollar. I looked at a 170cid in a falcon and it had a fixed ignition timing , no fly weights or vacuum. advance. was surprised. no wonder the car had no power. I have dodge 230 distributors some have vacuum ad vance some don't . depends on which bean corner was in charge that week.
Studebaker had its charms and people that liked them really, really liked them. I have a 63 Lark with the marginally powered 170, it's a hoot to drive and people really notice it around town. I enjoy it because it's cheap to drive and easy to work on!
You did the right thing using the rubber Temp expansion plug. The only thing I would have added a expansion plug standard sealer compound that would go between the block and the inner area of the steel / nut area of the plug……
I understand the thinking there, but the rubber is doing its thing on the inside lip - and they do say specifically to install them dry. It’s working so far!
Limiting the slot for centrifugal advance in the distributor by welding the advance slot or using a rubber sleeve will allow more initial but not alter the over all. Then just rev it up and set your over all at the 32 degrees. If you need it quicker use 1 or 2 lighter springs.
Really like your videos Jamie, wish you could help me with my Bee. And again, forget about those naysayers, you have more knowledge and integrity then all of them.
U do good mate, the whingers probably changed the rims on their HOTWHEELS cars. Those of us that have built cars watched with rapt attention happy 2 b along for the ride . Luv ya work mate, cheers.
Could see a different carb (throttle plates possibly letting air threw the shafts?) being installed to help with running issues and putting it on a engine dyno would be very interesting.... Great content and thanks....and keep your restoration skills well honed no matter what shows up at the garage door.
Watching the gremlins reminded me of the nick name that Studebakers had back in the day was “Steady Breakers”. I think they may have always been a bear to get running right even when stock.
Man that thing sounds strong! Recurve the advance for sure. The AFB is Ok, but Im sure more carb would be better. Many of those old mills had ported vacuume. Keep goin',,,Izzy,,,,,
Handling: looking at the rake stance on this car it has been tampered with. Without any other adjustments that rake F's up the handling because with that rake you decrees the caster angle and that takes away sharp turn dynamic camber = less front grip = understeer That rake also decreases straightline stability and lighter steering. About that sbar: it probably can use a thicker sbar up front but it will also increase the tendency for understeer (aka push) , on the plus side it will help traction coming out of a sharp corner = less 1wheel-peel in case of an open diff. Last but certainly not least: OLD tires harden and hard rubber does not grip very well (understatement!)(No kidding, really?) so make sure that the tires are not from the proverbial stone-age. I really like the Hawk, it looks classy. I think it's one of the best looking US-cars ever made.
I’ve done thousands and thousands of road miles in muscle era cars with ridiculous takes. So while I fully understand and acknowledge that it’s not ideal for handling, I also know that it’s not the issue that I am up against here. I have also installed many large tubular front sway bars over the years. You certainly make a good point on tires.
Always remember, Jamie, that opinions are like arseholes....everybody's got one and they're usually full if sh*t. Personally, I could relate to the level of frustration that this project created. Just keeping it real. Just subscribed as I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago. Big fan of VGG, WWW, NNKH and Diesel Creek....and now Dead Dodge Garage.
I certainly appreciate your , Mechanical apptiude & skills , Along with , the Satire 🙃 It's obvious , you know what , you're doing 🤝 Like you , I do have a great appreciation for the , Independents . I wouldn't mind seeing more on your channel , provided , your blood pressure is willing and able
Thank You for your videos. I always feel a bit smarter after watching one of your videos. You definitely have a talent to entertain and educate at the same time.
Another great Stude video. This is a big reason DDG is my favorite TH-cam channel. This stuff was both interesting and presented with some humor. Super enjoyable to watch. Keep up the great work!
Hi Jamie, I spun over to check this Studey project after your guest shot on UTG Wed nite when it was mentioned. Anyway, wow, what a Heinz 57 car. It appears the owner has a pre-full-flow engine (ie; no filter mount on the block lower RH - that I can see anyway) as it has oil filler stub plus partial filter set-up up top along with rocker covers w/o filler/vent caps. Genuine R2 engines arrived in 1963 and are different in the details noted but, who cares. Most Studes get modified anyway. Actual R2 Hawks have the supercharger right where the alternator (also ‘63-up) is installed. What the owner has is a Daytona Lark arrangement (again, who cares). Re; core plugs. If the openings still have good shoulders, you might try 39mm items (they are available) as 1-9/16” would likely be too large. Late ‘62-up use 1-1/2” shallow cup. You and Uncle Tony gabbed a bit about disc brake swaps gone awry and rightfully so. Not enough pseudo-mechanics think this stuff through. I have Studebaker parts and service manuals for my ‘62 Lark and GT Hawk to verify what I’m working with. I am a “parts guy “ by profession so, details can matter greatly. In that light, I posted a reply to Tony’s daily driver modifications advice noting how correct he is. Amateurs beware. I still like that you took on this project even though you’re not a “Studey” guy. Have “fun” ? BTW I subscribed to your channel on Uncle Tony’s recommendation even before you discussed this car last Wednesday as I like Mopars too (we have a 2000 Dakota with a 287 OHC (the last AMC V8 designed before Chrysler bought them - so I hear).
Yes, this is an R2 type setup as available in cars like the Avanti bolted onto an earlier 289. If I remember what Dave said correctly, this block is actually earlier than a ‘61. You seem to have those details backwards - the R2 found in the Avanti uses this configuration, and the Lark setup appears to have the supercharger on top - similar to the earlier Golden Hawk configuration. In any case, this setup doesn’t belong where it is - and the custom clearance on the inner fender is a testament to that fact, among other details.
Thank you for the correction. Both Larks and GT Hawks have the supercharger on top with Avantis RH mounted. I have seen Avanti configuration swaps on Larks so that was buzzing in my head Sorry.
Hawk! I miss my 1965 Humber Hawk that was stolen 10 years ago. I follow you because I generally miss working on old cars - and we call them freeze plugs over here too. I wouldn't think you had many old British Humbers over there...0-60 in the time it takes to make a cup of tea...
@@DeadDodgeGarage built for comfort...Vicars and Members of Parliament :). Rootes Group motor - Singer, Hillman, Sunbeam, Commer and Humber - taken over by Chrysler in the late 60's. Love your channel - good luck!
The comments about the 2 bbl carb being used on the supercharged 289's was about the early 57/58 289 which used a 2 bbl. fully enclosed in an aluminum chamber. Most Studebaker guys know the 60's used a special 4 bbl. blow through set up.
You’re absolutely right! It’s a really interesting study in who knows what - and how proud people are to declare things they’re wrong about. The thing is, all of these different Studebaker packages are rare, kind of weird, and relatively unknown by the general automotive public. This has been a crash course for me too, and although I’ve done a ton of research, I’d be the last person to claim that I could possibly know everything there is to know about them.
Yep, Jamie I'd trust you to work on any vehicles of mine, I think you're doing the best. I only own a couple small motorcycles but that's just because I don't have a driver's license, but I used to and I've built a few cars.
In 1989 was car technician and customer had 2 1957 Studs Golden Hawk was super charged Packston and Firehawk both in Exc+++cond. Worked some other old classics at same shop. Shop special in 1/4 mile rides doing NOS modified and high HP off street rides. Father & Son raced on weekends at Union Grove 1/4 track in Wisconsin
Hey Jamie, I love the videos. I don't even own a Mopar, but I want to. I've seen a couple of videos where you respond to comments. Don't let them get under your skin.
Been trying to think of a good insult this whole video. Sorry,can't come up with one.😅 Another fine video once again. Tried telling you just use the expandable core plugs but you didn't hear me through my phone.😊
The chronic complainers in the comments are generally imbeciles. I have owned 5 early 60s Ramblers and have spent many hours cursing and banging my knuckles attempting to remove reluctant bolts and other recalcitrant parts. At times I had to walk away, drink a beer, and call it a day. I feel your pain. Keep up the good work. Love your videos.
I have never had much interest in Studebakers, but this is an interesting car in spite of all the obvious "challenges" of trying to work on it. I really like the Stewart-Warner gauges and the "engine-turned" dash panel. It just gives it a cool performance car vibe. And of course the supercharger, which kind of reminds me of the Mr. Norm's early 70s 340 Demons (and maybe Dart Swingers?) that they added a supercharger to. It looks like a somewhat similar setup. Anyway, nice work as usual!
Really, most of his difficult issues were related to the supercharger. Now we know why so many of them were removed from the cars in the mid 1960s and replaced with a regular 4 bbl and an air cleaning and all the puffer parts put into a cardboard box then stored on a shelf in the garage for the next 4-5 decades!
Always called them pesky things freeze plugs in the UK , Keep up the great vids , got me cap and stickers already , as for soldering toxic smoke - its nasty smelly stuff if its the old lead solder , i breathe it in daily because work - not good , even worst melting carpet
Yeah..........Studebaker people can be a bit of a buzz kill......hence I went back to my Mopar roots. You're doing great work, don't let the bastards get you down.
Jamey….. if the fact checkers on the expansion pluuuuuuugs…… freeze plugs screw it…. Wanna add there der der der comments…. Let them show there proof…. If what you did works…. And all is dry… I call it a win win! Enjoy your videos man… had a 1971 Dodge Dart Swinger for my first car at 16…. 2 door bucket seats but had a 318… was gold with a brown vinyl top…. Dang wish I never sold it… take care n keep warm! Chris- Tuscaloosa Al
Now a committed viewer I wouldn't sweat the little shit that's a really neet old car but I'm a Dodge guy too. Over the years I have had many muscle cars and enjoyed them all! And the fastest were the Mopars👍👍
l know it is not a Mopar like we have but Chris Birdsong pointed out on a mopar big block you can adjust the vacuum advance with an allen wrench providing your vacuum advance is hex shape. cence Studabaker used all three manufactors parts maybe the vacuum is off a big block. Just worth mentioning check out his video on vacuum advance timing
Funny enough, big block Mopar distributor guts can be transplanted into a Studebaker distributor. Apparently it’s a common upgrade. The screw on the vacuum pod adjusts preload on the spring. It does not adjust the amount of advance available, but you can change when it comes in. I saw his videos. I have some thoughts about what he was saying - but that’s for another day.
true but it will change the amount of vacuum it will take to advance the timening which mite help on the touchyness of the throttle and that awful pinging problem you are having@@DeadDodgeGarage
Generally speaking, I'm still correct. Cars of this vintage (or basically anything pre-1972) should have it's vacuum advance hooked to manifold vacuum. What I didn't take into account was that this engine is SUPERCHARGED. Once a supercharger is added to an engine, other than at idle, the amount of vacuum in the induction system is minimal. It is replaced by manifold boost pressure. So, the guys who designed this engine are obviously smarter than me and the vacuum advance really only comes into play during light throttle/cruising speeds. So, I will concede; there are exceptions. Big, lumpy cams are also another reason to connect to ported. There's probably very little vacuum being created at idle speeds. If I came across as whiny or pretentious, I do apologize.
It’s all good. I come across as whiny all the time, as you may have heard. Haha. My problem with what you said is that it reminded me of things I have heard other channels say - that ported vacuum was *only* used during the emissions era - and it’s just not true. Now the funny part is… I think running it on manifold would help a lot in this case! There is absolutely merit to that argument, in this situation and others. I just wanted to drive home the point that it is plumbed the way Studebaker intended in this case. This cam is much more aggressive than anything those engineers ever envisioned - which is where things get complicated here. I thank you for being involved in the comments here. There is a lot for all of us to learn - and that absolutely includes me.
As always, a great and unique video. Less than 6 months ago I stood just outside of the long abandoned Studebaker plant in Dei-Twas, AKA Detroit. The plant was enormous. On a completely different subject, have you ever been to the NAPA Auto Parts store in Raymond?
1) Keep doing what you are doing Jamie 20,000 people like it and more subscribers are on their way 2) The Dodge Power Wagon laughs at safety features like having to push the clutch in when starting the engine 3) When working on old cars its sometimes better to treat it like a journey to enjoy as you go along rather than only being happy when its finally finished. Take pride in getting that $#@%@ rusted snapped off bolt out after 3 hours working on it. Of course the word enjoy is not always top of mind when you are dropping F bombs and firing a wrench at the wall lol
Yeah, that. Haha. I agree. The Power Wagon absolutely predates safety by, like, a lot… no seat belts, no padded dash, collapsing column… there aren’t even bolts holding the seat in, just little post things. What’s a crumple zone? You are the crumple zone.
Wash out plugs , as I was told ,many years ago , to wash the sand out of the block after the block is poured . I hate to bring up the plugs again , but I wonder if you ground out the inner lip of the seat you might be able to use a regular plug .
Yep! Exactly that. And yes, I probably could - but the thing to do there would have been to have them machined while it was out and in pieces. And a 1 1/2” plug fit loosely, so it would probably take a special size.
I worked at an auto parts dealer for years, the term used by mechanics ordering engine plugs was was Freeze or Frost plug. So not sure why anyone would tell you that is not a correct term
So mike told me when i built his hawk motor that the book on the car said use high test fuel. He said anything less then 101 octane would burn the pistons out of it. He did that and its why i had to rebuild it but this was a stock cam too. You know all to well what hp cams do to everything. I have to try to find pics of that car for ya. Maybe 35yrs ago.😅 he had a studie truck he drove everyday.
Studebakers were super cool...especially supercharged models like this...Thanks for sharing your Studebaker experience.
Thanks for your patience, for people who don't understand how hard you work on these old classic vehicles.I would be proud to let you work on any vehicle I own classic or otherwise, best regards, I enjoy all your videos
Thank you!
@@DeadDodgeGarage being bri ish.. those freeze plugs, we call welsh plugs.. maybe they invented them.. duno.. ausie..
The Studebaker videos you have made have always commanded my complete attention. Good work 👍👏
Critic's be damned, this is one of my favorite YT channels. Don't let the know it alls ruin it for you. This car was and is a learning experience. Great job Dude!
Thank you! I’ll be fine. Haha.
I'm Mopar through and through , but this series about this car is a refreshing change of pace ....
Lol, I can remember seeing Studebakers on the dirt tracks, trying to keep up with the Mercs and Chevys (not to reveal my age or anything), and some of them had a clutch on the blower so it handled better in the corners. I saw two of these at a local garage, a Hawk and a Silver Hawk. The owner was trying to install a Chevy power train built around a 350, while using the Hawk as a parts car for the body and interior. Sadly he did not have your patience and later scrapped them both. I really enjoy your videos of bringing these classics, including the Studebaker, back to life. Keep it up, we will all watch and cheer you on.
My first car was a 69' polara with a 383 two barrel...even came across a 1966 4 door Polara with I think the last year of a big block 318?..the car was awesome...I am 62 now but in 79 and early 80's I had access to a lot of ol
Found it! Haha! Roast them haters, mate. You aint doing anything weird like pouring metal filings into the carb to speed up the running in process or nailing the carpet to the floor....but in case you think of trying that last one, the only way it works is if you clamp a piece of wood underneath the car for the nail to go into. Works a treat - and if it's long enough, it also reinforces the rusty metal on a soft floorpan so your feet don't go through it.
Good to know 😅
Old vehicles are an exercise in self punishment, patience and problem solving. The more hands that have been involved on a vehicle the more the first three things come into play
Being an old MOPAR tech, I also enjoyed the Studebaker video as I also like AMC stuff also. As I grew into the car field in the sixties, I veered toward Chrysler projects and AMC as they always seemed ahead of the competition in coming out with new technology.
This is very entertaining to a lifetime Studebaker person like myself. Most of your issues are due to modifications. Original parts are plentiful for Studebaker's.
Oh my word, I have not seen a video responding to internet experts in ages, that was great. Thank you and as one Mopar person to another who also loves Studebakers, I think this is great!
Carry on sir, carry on...
Well, we Chevy guys think that "Mopar lover = moron" anyway, but that's just us! 😉 We like the same breakfast food, tho. Great video series - keep up the good work!
Thank you for addressing that antique car restoration is nothing like what you see on TV! I have a solid theory that every overpriced project car for sale on Facebook marketplace is being sold by someone whose only actual antique car experience is what they have learned on cable TV car shows and auctions and believe them to be ‘spot on’ reliable regarding how easy old cars are to both restore and to market and resell. Funny how even after the car’s third year of being listed for sale without any price reduction, the seller still holds onto those fantasies?
Man what an awesome video! My grandfather had a Studebaker Hawk in 1960's I don't remember if it was supercharged? I think it might've been because I remember hearing stories of him being quicker than other's but I'm not sure if was charged or not, Beautiful car! Seriously cool your taking care of it!
Don't pay attention to those keyboard jockeys. They couldn't drive a 3 on the tree if they had to. Mom, What's this third pedal for ? Great car. You do what you have to do to make things work on older cars. !!! Good job !. Thx for sharing.
The Hawk is awesome, it's just so much fun to see old technology at work. When it does work, it seems like it's always a moment away from breaking down.
That was my general feeling too. Haha.
actually Studebaker used both 4 BBL and 2 BBL. the earlier golden hawks had the older McCulloch superchargers 2 BBL carb inside a pressure box. I have this configuration on my 59 hawk with a supercharged 259 v8. I also got a lot of greif from the purists for my build. Just ignore the arm chair experts and keep doing what you are doing. You are learning a new engine and you are doing very well.
Roight. The carb box setup. I just find it fascinating that someone could know that setup exists, but doesn’t know that this setup does.
Cool to hear of someone else doing a non-original but still officially Stude supercharger mod! I'm the owner of the car in the vid. An old-timer in the Stude community told me something to the effect of, "Really, you probably could've ordered a supercharged Studebaker in '59-'62, it just would've been a special order. The company was tanking too hard for them to refuse any business at all." So, not that you or I need justification for building the car we really want...but I liked hearing that. And it's probably true!
Hope you're enjoying your hot '59.
Atta boy Jamie. Stay after it until it behaves - and honestly, with the quality of gas these days and given
the "build" of that engine, it may just come down to not running vacuum advance at all (mechanical only).
My '68 440 is that way now - it flat out hates any vacuum advance being applied (and yes, Ma says *ported*
as well), so it runs a Direct Connection electronic ignition conversion kit with 12 initial/36 all in advance
and loves it (and doesn't rattle, just as important).
It no doubt costs a little fuel economy, but with the purpleshaft in it, I wasn't going to get any anyways.
Enjoyed the episode as always and we'll see you next time.
- Ed on the Ridge
Bought my first 53 in 1977
Just got another one.
1953 K car
2dr hardtop
Love the channel !!
Incidentally… I’m also a 53..
Been a minute;-))
In my opinion you have one of the coolest shop trucks on TH-cam 👍
Some serious persistence needed to get this thing right, great content as usual!
Many of the people who are commenting negatively are probably watching you do something they have never done and will never attempt to do. This doesn't stop them from telling you how to do it their way. If such commenters aren't being helpful, ignore them.
The more I read TH-cam comments the more I kind of think Thanos had the right idea. Hell of a job as always man!
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Your doing a great job and I am leaning very much !!!
Don't bother with those trolls ! Hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving !!! Thanks for all the info and entertainment !!!
Well Jamie looks like you are slowly but surely working out all those bugs out of the Ole Studebaker, I admire your patients and persistence with it. Sure is a beautiful car, your friend is lucky to have her, looks like it's going to be a lot of fun when you are done with it!
Enjoying the Studebaker vids AND your channel. It's great when you get into other projects outside the usual stuff. Your responses to comments were awesome.
I love the Power Wagon!! Glad you included it in this video.
Your show rocks and there's always going to be wrench throwing with us mechanics
There are probably only about 5 hundred of those cars maybe less you are working on a rare piece of history and I can't feel your pain. Nice work Jamie.
ported vacuum was used on many engines of all makes from the 30's as far as I know. my 59 Rambler v8 uses pored vacuum on a 2v Holley. some manufacturers didn't use any vacuum port to save a dollar. I looked at a 170cid in a falcon and it had a fixed ignition timing , no fly weights or vacuum. advance. was surprised. no wonder the car had no power. I have dodge 230 distributors some have vacuum ad vance some don't . depends on which bean corner was in charge that week.
Studebaker had its charms and people that liked them really, really liked them. I have a 63 Lark with the marginally powered 170, it's a hoot to drive and people really notice it around town. I enjoy it because it's cheap to drive and easy to work on!
"I'm not a moron." coffee went through the nose on that one.🤣
You did the right thing using the rubber Temp expansion plug. The only thing I would have added a expansion plug standard sealer compound that would go between the block and the inner area of the steel / nut area of the plug……
I understand the thinking there, but the rubber is doing its thing on the inside lip - and they do say specifically to install them dry. It’s working so far!
Limiting the slot for centrifugal advance in the distributor by welding the advance slot or using a rubber sleeve will allow more initial but not alter the over all. Then just rev it up and set your over all at the 32 degrees. If you need it quicker use 1 or 2 lighter springs.
Hey, that’s what I did in a later video! Haha. Overall had to be at 24 degrees or so, though. Because… supercharger
Really like your videos Jamie, wish you could help me with my Bee. And again, forget about those naysayers, you have more knowledge and integrity then all of them.
Its a FREEZE PLUG!!!, Benn that for my whole of 65 years on this planet.
The “that isn’t a freeze plug” crowd doesn’t care. And they’re right, too, but that’s another matter.
Your Shop truck is freaking sick. I love that thing.
Me too! It’s awesome. It’s also kind of terrifying but that’s ok.
Thank you for this. I know nothing about Studebakers except they look cool.
U do good mate, the whingers probably changed the rims on their HOTWHEELS cars. Those of us that have built cars watched with rapt attention happy 2 b along for the ride . Luv ya work mate, cheers.
Could see a different carb (throttle plates possibly letting air threw the shafts?) being installed to help with running issues and putting it on a engine dyno would be very interesting.... Great content and thanks....and keep your restoration skills well honed no matter what shows up at the garage door.
Sounds great its gonna fly when you run the engine in and fully tune it.
Watching the gremlins reminded me of the nick name that Studebakers had back in the day was “Steady Breakers”. I think they may have always been a bear to get running right even when stock.
Man that thing sounds strong! Recurve the advance for sure. The AFB is Ok, but Im sure more carb would be better. Many of those old mills had ported vacuume. Keep goin',,,Izzy,,,,,
It would be really cool to see you and Chris together on a Sunday video.
You do some good work and also have a flair in narrating the vids...GOOD WORK!
Excellent job 👏 👍
Takes loads of patience 😊
Thanks for bring brutally honest about fixing up an old car. Studmakers are almost as good as Mopars. LOL
Handling: looking at the rake stance on this car it has been tampered with. Without any other adjustments that rake F's up the handling because with that rake you decrees the caster angle and that takes away sharp turn dynamic camber = less front grip = understeer
That rake also decreases straightline stability and lighter steering.
About that sbar: it probably can use a thicker sbar up front but it will also increase the tendency for understeer (aka push) , on the plus side it will help traction coming out of a sharp corner = less 1wheel-peel in case of an open diff.
Last but certainly not least: OLD tires harden and hard rubber does not grip very well (understatement!)(No kidding, really?) so make sure that the tires are not from the proverbial stone-age.
I really like the Hawk, it looks classy. I think it's one of the best looking US-cars ever made.
I’ve done thousands and thousands of road miles in muscle era cars with ridiculous takes. So while I fully understand and acknowledge that it’s not ideal for handling, I also know that it’s not the issue that I am up against here. I have also installed many large tubular front sway bars over the years. You certainly make a good point on tires.
Always remember, Jamie, that opinions are like arseholes....everybody's got one and they're usually full if sh*t. Personally, I could relate to the level of frustration that this project created. Just keeping it real. Just subscribed as I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago. Big fan of VGG, WWW, NNKH and Diesel Creek....and now Dead Dodge Garage.
Thank you!
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Mechanical apptiude & skills ,
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It's obvious , you know what ,
you're doing 🤝
Like you , I do have a great appreciation for the ,
Independents .
I wouldn't mind seeing more on your channel , provided , your blood pressure is willing and able
Jamie, I'm 52 and this is the 1st factory car with a centrifugal supercharger I've ever seen.
It’s the first one I’ve ever touched!
@@DeadDodgeGarage I believe it
don't loose any sleep over the haters just keep rocking and doing the good work you do
Oh I’m sleeping just fine. Haha.
Thank You for your videos. I always feel a bit smarter after watching one of your videos. You definitely have a talent to entertain and educate at the same time.
Another great Stude video. This is a big reason DDG is my favorite TH-cam channel. This stuff was both interesting and presented with some humor. Super enjoyable to watch. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
I will never know as much as you do. I'm happy to watch and learn. You've helped me a lot.
Ahhh, we have that same wood stove at our Christmas tree farm! Either that or like the one we have in the gift shop.
Roses and puppy dog kisses.......I do believe you are correct about that.
Great video. You handled the nay'ers with a very dry sense of humor. I enjoyed your answers. Keep up the great work.
I still love Studebakers!
Hi Jamie,
I spun over to check this Studey project after your guest shot on UTG Wed nite when it was mentioned. Anyway, wow, what a Heinz 57 car. It appears the owner has a pre-full-flow engine (ie; no filter mount on the block lower RH - that I can see anyway) as it has oil filler stub plus partial filter set-up up top along with rocker covers w/o filler/vent caps. Genuine R2 engines arrived in 1963 and are different in the details noted but, who cares. Most Studes get modified anyway. Actual R2 Hawks have the supercharger right where the alternator (also ‘63-up) is installed. What the owner has is a Daytona Lark arrangement (again, who cares). Re; core plugs. If the openings still have good shoulders, you might try 39mm items (they are available) as 1-9/16” would likely be too large. Late ‘62-up use 1-1/2” shallow cup.
You and Uncle Tony gabbed a bit about disc brake swaps gone awry and rightfully so. Not enough pseudo-mechanics think this stuff through. I have Studebaker parts and service manuals for my ‘62 Lark and GT Hawk to verify what I’m working with. I am a “parts guy “ by profession so, details can matter greatly. In that light, I posted a reply to Tony’s daily driver modifications advice noting how correct he is. Amateurs beware.
I still like that you took on this project even though you’re not a “Studey” guy. Have “fun” ?
BTW I subscribed to your channel on Uncle Tony’s recommendation even before you discussed this car last Wednesday as I like Mopars too (we have a 2000 Dakota with a 287 OHC (the last AMC V8 designed before Chrysler bought them - so I hear).
Yes, this is an R2 type setup as available in cars like the Avanti bolted onto an earlier 289. If I remember what Dave said correctly, this block is actually earlier than a ‘61. You seem to have those details backwards - the R2 found in the Avanti uses this configuration, and the Lark setup appears to have the supercharger on top - similar to the earlier Golden Hawk configuration. In any case, this setup doesn’t belong where it is - and the custom clearance on the inner fender is a testament to that fact, among other details.
Thank you for the correction. Both Larks and GT Hawks have the supercharger on top with Avantis RH mounted.
I have seen Avanti configuration swaps on Larks so that was buzzing in my head
Sorry.
Hawk! I miss my 1965 Humber Hawk that was stolen 10 years ago. I follow you because I generally miss working on old cars - and we call them freeze plugs over here too. I wouldn't think you had many old British Humbers over there...0-60 in the time it takes to make a cup of tea...
Never have - I have heard the name Humber before, but know absolutely nothing about them…
@@DeadDodgeGarage built for comfort...Vicars and Members of Parliament :). Rootes Group motor - Singer, Hillman, Sunbeam, Commer and Humber - taken over by Chrysler in the late 60's.
Love your channel - good luck!
It’s funny how you have to explain yourself to the haters great videos
The comments about the 2 bbl carb being used on the supercharged 289's was about the early 57/58 289 which used a 2 bbl. fully enclosed in an aluminum chamber. Most Studebaker guys know the 60's used a special 4 bbl. blow through set up.
You’re absolutely right! It’s a really interesting study in who knows what - and how proud people are to declare things they’re wrong about. The thing is, all of these different Studebaker packages are rare, kind of weird, and relatively unknown by the general automotive public. This has been a crash course for me too, and although I’ve done a ton of research, I’d be the last person to claim that I could possibly know everything there is to know about them.
love your channel mate.so much information and highly entertaining...dead dodge garage keeping it real..looking forward to the next video
Thank you!
Yep, Jamie I'd trust you to work on any vehicles of mine, I think you're doing the best. I only own a couple small motorcycles but that's just because I don't have a driver's license, but I used to and I've built a few cars.
In 1989 was car technician and customer had 2 1957 Studs Golden Hawk was super charged Packston and Firehawk both in Exc+++cond. Worked some other old classics at same shop. Shop special in 1/4 mile rides doing NOS modified and high HP off street rides. Father & Son raced on weekends at Union Grove 1/4 track in Wisconsin
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Firehawk? Studebaker had a Flight Hawk but never a Firehawk. Pontiac had a Firehawk.
Hey Jamie, I love the videos. I don't even own a Mopar, but I want to. I've seen a couple of videos where you respond to comments. Don't let them get under your skin.
Love this old Studebaker!
Dennis Collins bought one of these some time back. They might be able to help if you get stuck.
I love those old Studebakers.
Been trying to think of a good insult this whole video. Sorry,can't come up with one.😅 Another fine video once again. Tried telling you just use the expandable core plugs but you didn't hear me through my phone.😊
🤣 at least you tried!
The chronic complainers in the comments are generally imbeciles. I have owned 5 early 60s Ramblers and have spent many hours cursing and banging my knuckles attempting to remove reluctant bolts and other recalcitrant parts. At times I had to walk away, drink a beer, and call it a day. I feel your pain. Keep up the good work. Love your videos.
Yep… that’s the way it goes. Thank you!
Thanks
I have never had much interest in Studebakers, but this is an interesting car in spite of all the obvious "challenges" of trying to work on it. I really like the Stewart-Warner gauges and the "engine-turned" dash panel. It just gives it a cool performance car vibe. And of course the supercharger, which kind of reminds me of the Mr. Norm's early 70s 340 Demons (and maybe Dart Swingers?) that they added a supercharger to. It looks like a somewhat similar setup. Anyway, nice work as usual!
Yes! I love the dash arrangement. It’s one of my favorite pieces too. And the Mr. Norm setup was indeed a very similar animal. Thank you!
Really, most of his difficult issues were related to the supercharger. Now we know why so many of them were removed from the cars in the mid 1960s and replaced with a regular 4 bbl and an air cleaning and all the puffer parts put into a cardboard box then stored on a shelf in the garage for the next 4-5 decades!
I hate that you have to explain yourself to folks... but then again, I like that you rub it in their faces!😂
Same, to both of those things 😅
Awesome video on studebaker tuning,, I'm a new sub and watched your previous vid also,very informative and your humor is great. Keep them coming!
Thank you!
Always called them pesky things freeze plugs in the UK , Keep up the great vids , got me cap and stickers already , as for soldering toxic smoke - its nasty smelly stuff if its the old lead solder , i breathe it in daily because work - not good , even worst melting carpet
Me as well, here in the US. They are also called expansion plugs, but I use "Freeze plug" (along with most other Yanks) almost always
Yeah..........Studebaker people can be a bit of a buzz kill......hence I went back to my Mopar roots. You're doing great work, don't let the bastards get you down.
Love your videos and your wit. 😀
Friends dad owned one in high school the thing was a ripper. We used to steal it when the old man was at work lol.
You have some cool old cars like what looks to be a 66 Barracuda on the lift.
Yeah I’ve got my fair share.
Knowledge and entertaining!!!!! Keep up the good work, don’t let the keyboard warriors get u down !!!
Thank you!
Jamey….. if the fact checkers on the expansion pluuuuuuugs…… freeze plugs screw it…. Wanna add there der der der comments…. Let them show there proof…. If what you did works…. And all is dry… I call it a win win! Enjoy your videos man… had a 1971 Dodge Dart Swinger for my first car at 16…. 2 door bucket seats but had a 318… was gold with a brown vinyl top…. Dang wish I never sold it… take care n keep warm!
Chris- Tuscaloosa Al
Nice Studebaker!
Now a committed viewer I wouldn't sweat the little shit that's a really neet old car but I'm a Dodge guy too. Over the years I have had many muscle cars and enjoyed them all! And the fastest were the Mopars👍👍
l know it is not a Mopar like we have but Chris Birdsong pointed out on a mopar big block you can adjust the vacuum advance with an allen wrench providing your vacuum advance is hex shape. cence Studabaker used all three manufactors parts maybe the vacuum is off a big block. Just worth mentioning check out his video on vacuum advance timing
Funny enough, big block Mopar distributor guts can be transplanted into a Studebaker distributor. Apparently it’s a common upgrade. The screw on the vacuum pod adjusts preload on the spring. It does not adjust the amount of advance available, but you can change when it comes in. I saw his videos. I have some thoughts about what he was saying - but that’s for another day.
true but it will change the amount of vacuum it will take to advance the timening which mite help on the touchyness of the throttle and that awful pinging problem you are having@@DeadDodgeGarage
Generally speaking, I'm still correct. Cars of this vintage (or basically anything pre-1972) should have it's vacuum advance hooked to manifold vacuum.
What I didn't take into account was that this engine is SUPERCHARGED. Once a supercharger is added to an engine, other than at idle, the amount of vacuum in the induction system is minimal. It is replaced by manifold boost pressure. So, the guys who designed this engine are obviously smarter than me and the vacuum advance really only comes into play during light throttle/cruising speeds. So, I will concede; there are exceptions.
Big, lumpy cams are also another reason to connect to ported. There's probably very little vacuum being created at idle speeds.
If I came across as whiny or pretentious, I do apologize.
It’s all good. I come across as whiny all the time, as you may have heard. Haha. My problem with what you said is that it reminded me of things I have heard other channels say - that ported vacuum was *only* used during the emissions era - and it’s just not true. Now the funny part is… I think running it on manifold would help a lot in this case! There is absolutely merit to that argument, in this situation and others. I just wanted to drive home the point that it is plumbed the way Studebaker intended in this case. This cam is much more aggressive than anything those engineers ever envisioned - which is where things get complicated here. I thank you for being involved in the comments here. There is a lot for all of us to learn - and that absolutely includes me.
As always, a great and unique video. Less than 6 months ago I stood just outside of the long abandoned Studebaker plant in Dei-Twas, AKA Detroit. The plant was enormous. On a completely different subject, have you ever been to the NAPA Auto Parts store in Raymond?
Oh man, that’s awesome. No I don’t think I’ve ever been in that Napa, but I’ve gone to Borden’s a time or two.
What a cool project, I love what ya do
Welcome back to TH-cam! Missed you.
I’ve been here the whole time! Haha.
More,more,more !
You had a live stream yesterday?
I'm kidding :-) I'm watching because I like the videos!
On Monday’s yesterday 😅
1) Keep doing what you are doing Jamie 20,000 people like it and more subscribers are on their way 2) The Dodge Power Wagon laughs at safety features like having to push the clutch in when starting the engine 3) When working on old cars its sometimes better to treat it like a journey to enjoy as you go along rather than only being happy when its finally finished. Take pride in getting that $#@%@ rusted snapped off bolt out after 3 hours working on it. Of course the word enjoy is not always top of mind when you are dropping F bombs and firing a wrench at the wall lol
Yeah, that. Haha. I agree. The Power Wagon absolutely predates safety by, like, a lot… no seat belts, no padded dash, collapsing column… there aren’t even bolts holding the seat in, just little post things. What’s a crumple zone? You are the crumple zone.
"No! No no.. You're talking about my friend all wrong! Do it again, and I'll you the face, with a soldiering iron. " ~Christopher Walken
Is it funny that I quoted that several times at work on Thursday? 😅
Great minds think a like. 😆
What a cool car.
Wash out plugs , as I was told ,many years ago , to wash the sand out of the block after the block is poured . I hate to bring up the plugs again , but I wonder if you ground out the inner lip of the seat you might be able to use a regular plug .
Yep! Exactly that. And yes, I probably could - but the thing to do there would have been to have them machined while it was out and in pieces. And a 1 1/2” plug fit loosely, so it would probably take a special size.
Still a cool car
I worked at an auto parts dealer for years, the term used by mechanics ordering engine plugs was was Freeze or Frost plug. So not sure why anyone would tell you that is not a correct term
Because they like to hear themselves speak…
So mike told me when i built his hawk motor that the book on the car said use high test fuel. He said anything less then 101 octane would burn the pistons out of it. He did that and its why i had to rebuild it but this was a stock cam too. You know all to well what hp cams do to everything. I have to try to find pics of that car for ya. Maybe 35yrs ago.😅 he had a studie truck he drove everyday.
Friend of mine collected Stuudies in California, I dreamt of getting one of these and installing a Ford 4.6 SOHC in it LOL
Haaaahaha why tho