Driveability of Howards Cams180345-10 cam in a 383 stroker.
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- Took a little cruise on the highway and through town to show the drivability of this cam in my 383. Howards Cam 180345-10, 110345-10. Both are the same grind. The 180345-10 is a step nose cam for a factory roller block, 110345-10 is a retrofit hyd roller.
247/253@.50 .565/.580 106 intake center. With 1.6 rockers the lift is .608/.618
#c10 #383stroker #sbc
Jesus, it's so flat out there you could watch your dog run away for two days.
AIN'T IT JUST AIN'T IT 😜 lols
here and on water... no curve... everywhere else... magic spinning waterball😂
LMAO I was just thinking the same thing about it
Its as flat as my ex wifes titties!!!
@@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Runs like gem. Clean and smooth. Gorgeous truck. Well done sir🇺🇸🏁🏴☠️
Thanks!!!!
I like how my 68 Camaro 396 pulls with a 580 lift 300 duration, gets lots of looks pulling into car shows too, nice truck keep the videos coming
And people with pacemakers.
Thanks for watching!!! Got more videos coming of the resurrection of my Dads 69 firebird that's been parked over 30 yrs.
Truck sounds great. Set-up works. Be proud of it.
Works pretty good. Thanks!!!
This lil c10 looks fun as hell to drive around 😂‼️ Keep the uploads coming man 👏🏽
It is. Other than it's broke everything behind the engine so far.... THANKS FOR WATCHING!!!! More to come on this truck and my ol man's 69 firebird that's been off the rd since 91.
Beautiful Truck and such a classic color
Thanks!!!
I run a comp 306s with a 3800 stall in a el camino... With brodix t1 heads- daily driven. Love it
Sounds like a sweet ride. Thanks for watching!!!
Slow speed on the tack was about 1000 RPM’s. Idling under a grand. A 5 speed Tremec would be more fun. I would nix the automatic. Loose converters feel sloppy and excess noise to drive. At 225 degree or less cam would be better suited for the street in a not so light vehicle. Throttle response would be better too coming off a stop.
I agree smaller cams are way more street friendly in a heavy pickup and way easier to tune but.... As far as the auto, yeah a 5 speed would be more fun but not in this truck. Maybe one of the others. Out of the 5 67-72s I own, the is the only one without the third pedal.
I love how you have the idle set at 950-1000 rpm’s… it sounds great👍🏼 So many out there set their idle at 600 to exaggerate the lope in the cam. It sounds terrible, and reminds me of a tug boat.
Thanks I appreciate that!!! Even been alot of people comment that it don't lope that hard. Well..... it's got around 20° of timing at idle and idles around 1000rpm 😆
@@jdbas71 I pitted for my brother several years ago racing GA modifieds. We ran a 377 small block on alcohol with pretty aggressive cam and 8 into 1 exhaust. It idled at 1200 rpm and sounded similar to your truck. You’ve got a nice cam 👍🏼
cool I like 383 strokers my friend had one back in the seventies in his 67 camaro. It was a ripper. It sure looks like Kansas there. Or Oklahoma.
Kansas 😆
I use to live there it look very fammilair my dad had a farm in sedan @@jdbas71
It seems to be well mannered , and assuming you're running manual brakes. Curious to know what the vacuum is at idle. The more efficient the intake system is the lower the vacuum will be. What about heads, intake and Carb?
Still has power brakes on it. Only makes about 5" @ idle. Once cruising, the brakes are good for the first pump or two, but after that they get hard. When I first put it together, it had a single plane victor jr knock off. I put a performer rpm on it, and it seemed to pick up better street matters. It has a 750 brawler, mechanical secondary carb. The heads are cheap aluminum heads that look like a dart copy. I think they came from skip white performance.
@5:46 that right there is sweet sweet music!!!!!
How does it do with towing? Lock up the converter early to prevent slipping?
Haven't towed a trailer with this setup but did haul 1600# of laundry soap down the interstate at 80mph. I just locked the converter up when I got up to cruising speed. Felt like it wasn't even in there.
thought the squirrel was a gonner.
He knows to get outta my way lol. I feed em corn. Drives my dogs nuts when they perch up on top of the gate to eat. Thanks for watching!!!
Ive got a 383 stroker in my shorty chevy van. 700r4 trans its getting 373 gears soon. I feel my stock/original converter is too tight at 1500rpm. Like the motor is fighting it at idle speed. Id like a 2000ish converter. Im not racing. Does that sound about right? What is the stall speed on this converter in the video?
Behind this 383 it stalls about 24-2500rpm. The converter was built originally built for a turbocharged 5.3 ls. Behind 700ish hp, it should stall about 3700rpm. The cam company recommends a 3500 with this camshaft. This converter is just a little tight for this engine. I had a 2400 b&m behind the old goodwrench engine & loved it. What's your cam specs? That will more closely determine stall speed.
I used a 2800 stall converter behind my 383.
Just get a stock convertor for a 4.3 engine. They stall higher than the V-8 engines. My son has one behind his 383 and it works perfect.
@kennydemartini2169 I drove a heat & air van for a guy yrs ago that had a 4.3. It did seem to stall weirdly high. It didn't seem like a good match to a 4.3 at all. That thing was gutless as they come. Would be way better with a v8 in front of it.
2k easy shifts.. nice
It'll putt around like driving Ms. Daisy or totally annihilate a set of tires.
What state are you in?
Kansas
@@jdbas71 man I'm in NYC. It sucks. That's beautiful!
@mrmeowcomeshome1300 Thanks! I don't think I could ever live in a city. Too much hussle and bussel. Small town living is where it's at.
What exhaust setup? Sounds amazing 👌🏻
@ONETimothy2.12-14 summit racing headers, 2½" duals, x-pipe, street max mufflers (magnaoflow knockoffs)
Thanks!!! It was very quiet at first but deepened up after a few hundred miles.
@jdbas71 Thanks brother very cool. I've not been a fan of the magnaflows. Might have been the series mufler or those street max' sound different. Some setups drown out the cam yours is right on 👍🏻
Have you checked the pinion angle since you lowered it?
Yes it was still OK. Things got a little screwy when I put this 4l80e in. The crossmember I bought for for the Orange truck caused it to hang to low in the rear. Like close to 7°. So I built my own "M" shaped crossmember to get the angles where I needed them and clear all the exhaust.
@@jdbas71 been there!
What trans you got in that truck?? 700r4 or turbo 400?
The truck has a 4l80e transmission in it with a PTC converter, a NCR80E wiring harness from ebay to wire it up.
I got a CL118081-09 for a 11:1 383…think it would behave worse than this?
The Big Daddy Rattler. I have had no personal experience with it. I would say get a distributor that you can adjust the timing curve. If running hei I like the MSD pro billet hei. Totally adjustable, has a built-in rev limiter, and the ability to hook up to an ignition box later if ya want. Give it the most initial timing ya can and a quick ramp. So meaning around 20° initial with a total of around 36° and change springs so it's all in by about 24-2500 rpm. For street applications I'm really not too crazy about locking the distributor out completely. If you lock it out you'll lose some of the efficiency for cruising and such. There is alot of fuel mileage and efficiency to be gained by a properly tuned timing curve and a properly tuned vacuum advance. If going automatic it's gonna need some stall.
That thing is meannn
I've always run 4 or 5 speeds (I despise slushboxes... BORING to drive, and you HAVE to modify them to make them work with a big cam) and as long as there's enough gear in it to take off without smoking the clutch I've been able to run as big of a cam as I wanted and the cars drove just fine. Sure, they don't make any power at the bottom end, but in 1st gear they pull just fine, and after that you just keep them in a lower gear a little longer if you want the engine to actually pull. The irony of it is my daily is a Mazda 6 with a 6 speed manual in it and with the VVT it has, it doesn't really pull much below 3500 RPM either. While it obviously runs smoother down low than anything with a long duration cam in it will, you still have to drive it the same way which is wind it up a little more if you want it to pull.
I own 2- 70 GMCs and 2- 71 Chevys. This
Cheyenne is the only one not sporting a
clutch. The orange GMC will end up with an
auto also because my back is well.... fkd,
but I feel it's a very important life lesson
to teach my kids how to drive with an old
SM465 4speed.
Number of the cam you got
Howards Cam 180345-10, 110345-10. Both are the
same grind. The 180345-10 is a step nose cam for a
factory roller block, 110345-10 is a retrofit hyd roller.
247/253@.50 .565/.580 106 intake center. With 1.6
rockers the lift is .608/.618
I’m thinking it’s a love hate kinda thing lol
For sure is. I like the way it runs, but I hope it's as reliable as the goodwrench 350 that was in it.
Never too much cam just not enough motor
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!
Most won't match converter or other components then whine and pout and blame manufacturers for their own lack of research and planning
Excellent explanation!!
Never too much cam, just need more convertor, more gear and a heavier foot
Exactly!!!! Overdrive with lock up was a complete game changer.
Too much cam means how often do you wanna be changing lifters!
If someone tells you that a cam is too big for the street they do not know how to build a engine or understand how to make a combo work.
That's what I said. Probably total lack of tuning knowledge because the tune up specs on the fender sticker ain't gonna make the cut.
That cam is tiny!
Any cam that idles below 1500 rpm with enough stall or manual trans works perfectly. One of my street cars idle @ 1900 lope up to 2600 & all hell brakes loose @ 5500 pulls past 7000 yea I have 4.56 gears with a Jericho trans but i never said it was a "daily" driver.
How often do you replace springs & lifters?
All the people who make the comments about too much motor for the street are running Mopars the original slow cars . Or just plain old dumb and running a ford. GM #1 .
Haha....I run a Mopar but built a few chevy trucks....76 and 79
Haa your the dumb one. I own both. Your still young n dumb because your still in biased mind frame thar you know it all.
C'mon Grandma I'll drive you to the Hospital.
"But I'm not Sick"
You will be in a minute. Hang On.
😆🤣😆Thanks!!! I needed that laugh!!! That's the best one yet!
There once was a time in history that there actually were cams that were too large to be using on the streets. Not that you couldn't use them, but your car would be a dog.
Today, not so much! Today we have tech that makes it possible to drive around with 5 second quarter mile machines on the road as if they were yesteryears hotrods! If you don't put the right tech together, then you can still have too large of a cam for your combo, but that's all on you.
Honestly though, that cam is kind of a middle run cam. A big cam would be idling at 2000 rpm, and run up into the 7500+ rpm range. Nice build though, looks cool, sounds nice!!
P.S. That steering wheel has amazing texture! lol
Thanks, I appreciate your honest words. I feel the same way. With the right tech and tuning, almost any camshaft can be streetable.
That steering wheel does have an awesome texture!!! 😆 I really need to work on my camera skills. Thanks for watching!!!
Your 383 seems to be very street friendly, Idles nice etc, My 383 likes to idle around 1300rpm and has that old school rumble shake the car at the red light lol. I run the Howards 110635-10 which is a step below the cam you are running. It has treated me very good over the past 7 years.
This one was the same way idling high. I recurved the distributor where it idles at 18°advance and is all in around 2500 rpm at 36°. Made a world of difference on the streetability of this engine. Thanks for watching!!!!
Either your neighbors hate you or love you 🤣😂
Well.... it's a mixed bunch. The 1st few weeks that this engine was in the truck it still had blown out glass packs and some long echo chambers on it. The wife said if I left the house she could hear it the entire time I was gone. So these magnaflows and 2½" pipe tamed it down some....
I'd love him 😅
That cams not that big. Should drive just fine.
Joe Sherman once said An engine can take more cam than you think
Joe was right. A little tuning and a lockup converter can make "almost" anything streetable.
@@jdbas71 3800-4000 stall and some 4.30s will do the trick with this bad boy 😅😂
Joe knew what was up. I learned alot from him. His engines made more power than they should have. He was definitely a rare individual. RIP.
Personally I love that truck and the way it runs. I don't think the cam is too big. I run a big cam in my bigblock 55. It cruises at about 2700 at 70 and I'm okay with that. Seems like the sweet spot for my engine. Early 70s 400 turbo and 373s.
Thanks!! It really does seem like a decent, streetable combo. So many people have told me that it's too much cam for the street or too much for a pickup. I really think it drives nice around town, gets 12ish mpg on the freeway at 80ish mph and will blow the tires off at will. What more could a guy want. Smiles per miles!!!
@@jdbas71 exactly!!!
I run a 250-260 @50 solid roller in a 377 on the street.......granted a manual trans and 4.56 gear helps a lot.......no vacuum accessories though.
That's what they make vacuum pumps for
I might try a vac canister later. Brakes work yet stiff. Thanks for watching!!!!
It starts, idles and drives without stalling off idle. Then when warm it purrs around town! What's not to like?
Exactly 💯 plus this exhaust has made it so docile. Huge mufflers with an X pipe tamed it down to where it's very much a sleeper. I got on it next to a guy and he later laughed as he told me "I never would have expected that, you pulled up purring and next thing I knew it released demons and took off" 😆
Now that story make an old gearhead smile! Always loved a sleeper and the look of shock on some unsuspecting driver with more money than ability. @@jdbas71
Thats less lope than my old 383 Stroker S10 had and it was fully streetable. Your exhaust, when accelerating, sounds amazing. Beautiful ride!
Thanks!!! It's got a lot of initial advance which really helped smooth out the idle some.
Exhaust is 2½" Magnaflow knockoffs with an X pipe.
No such thing as too much cam, just means ya need more of everything else. I've ran 290@.050 .800 lift solid roller cams & 13-1 compression rowdy bigblocks that I drove to work everyday. All depends on how much ya can deal with. That truck appears pretty mild and totally drivable. Probably get 15-20mpg.
I’m with you!
You drive to work with race gas everyday? That gets EXPENSIVE. I've been there, and STILL am there...
Pretty tame cam by the sounds of it......a rough cam will make your engine sound like it has blower surge
My thoughts also.My factory RA/IV cam had more pop than this at its 1050rpm spec.Tried to lower the idle down once,and when it hit 650rpm it backfired and died.It was not meant to be coupled with a stock M40 auto,so I had to set the idle up to 2000rpm to drive it home from my dad’s garage.In gear it would drop to 750rpm,but would lurch (pulsate)with the front end moving up and down.It was lurching like this when a cop pulled up next to me at a light.He lit me up,then told me it was not streetable,if he sees it again he will write me up.Had to put a stall in it for drivability.This 70 crate engine was dropped into my 1964 GTO.
@babaoreally8220 this cam is around 250° and .600 lift. It's tuned up with 20° of timing at idle and a short curve. I gave it that much timing to help out the idle quality. When I first got it running the dizzy had something like a 26° curve. With 10° initial this engine would idle like a dying pig.
@@jdbas71 agreed,10* for a hot cam is way low.The way they are measuring these durations up the ramp now is difficult for me to convert to the classical spec.I love to hear those thumpers in a pick-up truck.There’s one (mid 70’s) next door that really pops,and I wander over to take it all in.Sounds like someone banging a bass drum when sitting in the living room.The factory cam in mine was a heavily double sprung hydraulic,but you could hear the valves snap shut,like a solid lifter.The construction of the lifter was such that it acted like a solid lifter as rpm’s got higher.The 308/320* duration and .530 net lift was the most radical of GM’s factory engines.
That is a pretty big hydraulic he is running did you even look it up or just listen
@@babaoreally8220 Ignore the trollish comments...you can tune its obvious
What is your tire dia and axle ratio?
I just want to let everyone know cams aren't too big and if anything the street is too small...
Sweet truck. There's no such thing as to big of a cam.
I run a .750 lift solid roller in my 70 nova. My 67 elcamino 396 has a L88 427 cam that works excellent on the street.
Cam and carb manufacturers say go smaller just to cover there asses.
Good for a couple thousand miles! Please let me know how often you change them out & what kind you use?
The truck is cherry man.
@@rick-wg4in Thank You!!
Howsrds cams are magic, it seems to have great drivability and nice power. my combo on paper should be not so hot with drivability but it works great. I have mild 9:1 355 in a 92 c1500 with old big valve/ ported 993s, original torker open pleanum intake with a 2" spacer and a no where as big howards 112031-08, 3.08 gears, it had monster 700r4 with 2500 stall and it ran great, good low end strong mid an decent top end and really lumpy idle long tubes through dual 3" axl dumps (just for sound), eventually the trans blew up and original stock tans and converter went back in and still runs just fine but slups under power. But at idle you can whack the throttle and roars to life the lighting up the tires and keeps it up for wuite aways its would smoke my stock 5.0 95 mustang gt thats not bad for that type of set up it should be a total pooch off idle.
Yes, they are. I never would have thought this much cam would be this well mannered, especially with the converter that's in it.
@@jdbas71 the only other cam that ran surprisingly good was a lunati bracket master 2 but from now on if I buy a cam it's howards, David vizard the top end guru says if go flat tappit howards is the only safe brand, so that says something if a guy like him swears by them.
Your right. If David Vizard recommends something it holds some value. I had a lunati 268 voodoo that ran pretty darn good too. I tried the lunati bootlegger and wiped 8 lobes out in 200 miles
That’s not even that big of a cam 😂
For everyday driving it is
@@jefedabusiness5570Nah....
That tach you have fits perfectly in the center hole of your dash. I cut the clear lens of the cluster so the tach slipped in, on my '71. The outer lip of the tach will catch the black part of the cluster. The look was pretty clean.
I've thought about doing that. I have an extra lens from another truck I could use as a donor.
I don’t want your sound track - only cam music -that’s all
Throw a gear vender in it and gear the rear end 5.11:1 should be buttery smooth getting up to speed, with 8 gears.
That would be cool. Especially if I could drop the interstate rpm to about 25-2600. Currently getting about 12.5mpg at 80mph. It's getting better the more I tinker with the tune up.
@@jdbas71 My uncle happens to have a 72 sitting in a field, hasn't been on the road in 20 years. Same color, had the 350 2bbl and was a sap, so nobody ever went back to restore it.
@kramnull8962 That would be a cool truck to get back on the road.
i had a guy tell me that about 35 years ago. After i outran him. too much cam for the street.
It sounds awesome what mufflers are you running with your setup
I runn a 355 with a Procharger. Isky solid .507 lift, 3600 converter. Drive it everywhere.
That is a healthy cam for the street. I have a 242/248 @ .050, .585 in a 427 sbc in a 73 corvette, manual transmission. I wouldn't go any bigger personally. It is already scary as hell:-)
I'd drive it daily...sounds mean af dude and it's manageable..
Sounds streetable to me. Where’s timing on it? What’s the state emissions on it?
We don't have any state emissions checks. On this fuel, the timing is 18° at idle and 36° total. All in by about 2500rpm
There's not such thing as too big of a can but there is such thing as too loud of exhaust😊
And now that the burned out glass packs have been replaced, I have neither lol. Thanks for watching!!!
Not criticizing but it sounds kinda stock to me. My 427 ford fe has a lot more chop to it, and it only has a .600 lift 300degree 106 center line cam. What is your compression ratio?, maybe that's why it sounds so much different than mine.
Ah no criticism taken. Its 11.2:1 compression. Scat crank/rods, wiseco forged flat tops, 200cc intake heads w/2.02/1.60 valves. Cam is 247/253@.50 .608/.612 lift (1.6 rockers) on a 106 centerline. "Chop" is all in the tune up. I've recurved the distributor so it has alot of initial advance with a short advance curve. Bought as tight of a curve as I can get without just locking it out. I tuned the four corner idle adjustment with a vacuum gauge to reach the highest vacuum at idle in gear. (About 5.5" of vacuum) My tune up is strictly for smoothest idle/ throttle response over chop. When I first got this thing running it wouldn't idle below about 1300rpm and idled like a dying pig. Recurving the distributor and excessively playing with the carb got it to idle nicely around 900-1000 with GREAT throttle response off idle. It also has an X pipe in the exhaust which really changed the sound, not only at idle but all the way through the rpm range.
@@jdbas71 nice! That explains it, thanks for the reply.
@@briana3467 Thanks for watching!!!!
@@jdbas71sounds like you know what your doing! Most people wants theres to flood!
Low gear in the rear. My 342 rear 350 700r4 at 65 is 1900!
Yeah. 3.73 on a 275/60/15
Awesome truck. I dig it. Man does that thing shift nice
Thanks!!! It's nothing special, a junkyard 4l80e from a 06 express van with an eBay controller. The controller is the NCR80E. It hooks up with one hot wire and a switched ground for the lock-up converter. Converter is a PTC, it was actually specd to go behind 700ish hp turbo LS. That project ain't no where near completed so I used the trans in this truck.
It sounds smooth in low RPMs, sleeper 6000 !
Thanks!!!
The more radical the cam, the more stall you need on the torque converter. Standard transmission, not a problem.
For daily driving, this converter feels great. I feel a looser converter would help out of the hole a little bit. Too loose, and it could just blow through the converter on the big end. Thanks for watching!!!!
Just put a Howard's cam in my mpala runs great
Sounds just right to me. Great sound.
Thanks!!!!
Yup she's a keeper; just like it is. nice job
Thanks!!!! I feel pretty content with this drivetrain. Kinda the best of both worlds. Will do massive burnouts and haul ass or cruise 80 down the interstate.
same color and dash as a '73 blazer I had
And to think, when I got this truck 11ish yrs ago, my intention was to part it out to fix my grandpa's GMC. It was faded real bad as it had sat for over 10 yrs. I washed it and waxed it, and the color grew on me.
Silly question but what’s the fuel mileage like with a big hogging ass cam like that? I feel like what’s stopping most people from running a big cam is the idle quality and the fuel economy, I’m looking to ls swap a ranger for a fun daily type build but I’m worried sick that if I put a cam with 220+ on the intake lobe it’s gonna drop fuel economy hard and I really don’t need a daily that gets 5 miles per gallon
That's a great question! On the interstate, I've averaged about 12.5mpg between 80-85 mph. My old Goodwrench 350 without overdrive averaged 10mpg at 60-65mph. Totally shocked the crap out of me. I've calculated mileage 3 times filling up and driving about 70 miles back to town, then topping off again. It would probably do better but there are 3 or 4spots of road construction on the way home and I like the way it will just walk TF away from traffic on the interstate.
I would like to get an air/fuel ratio gauge to be able to dial in the fuel mileage.
Who cares about gas mileage with that beast.
@johnpopoff7950 I can't believe this stroker gets better mileage than the Goodwrench. Maybe it's the overdrive, maybe it's because it makes double the power. Either way, 3mpg or 13mpg I'm still gonna drive it.
I have 383 AFR CNC 210 heads 575 lift 255@50 pushing a 3800 car no driver ran 11.95 116 mph 1/4 mile shifting 6800 crossing at 6000rpm a little under geared for peak 1/4 mile.been street driving for 4 years no issues no maintance
Sounds like a blast to cruise around in!!!!
That's really not that big. I run a custom ground Bullet solid roller with .666/.645 lift etc in my 385 with 10.83:1 compression on 93 pump. Right at 600 at the crank.
It's really not. I just had alot of people tell me I over cammed my street engine. Seems like the common consensus was that anything over 230° on the street is not very streetable. It's ALL in the tune and the combo.
I had a 260 at .050 cam with a 110 ls I drove on the street all the time with 13:1. Never had any issues.
@dragsterguy38 I bet that thing is a beast!!
@@jdbas71 it was in my pro street chevelle. Had a 565. Was pretty radical
That's sweet, something to be proud of.
Thanks and thanks for watching!!!!
Here's a question for some of you. The speedo in that truck goes to 100 as did my '69 GMC, how fast would you estimate my truck was running with my speedo all the way around and back up to 20 ? I have 2 other witnesses that it did as they were in the truck with me. It had a Saginaw 3 sd, 3.73 rear gears, and Mickey Thompson L60's on 15" rims. Everything was factory except the engine we built for it. You have a nice sounding and great running truck!
I'm guessing around 140 or so. That about the speed when my old 70 gmc started getting real light in the front end. My buddy yelled shut er down. Lol we were young then.
@@jdbas71 that’s what mine started doing and my friend, who was on the passenger side told me he thought it was time to slow down. The poor girl I was trying to impress was between us. I can’t say she was sitting next to me because she was halfway in the floor! She didn’t have anything else to say about her boyfriend’s Ford truck though! Lol! The thing is, I still had pedal left but I weren’t going to find top end! When the front end of your vehicle starts floating, it’ll get your attention real fast! Lol!
Wallace racing us all kinds of calculators. Of course me the speed one may be off because of aerodynamics and or weight. Also if you still have the truck, put the speedo AP on your phone and it will be very close to what you are actually driving. We’ve used it in the past.
@@MikeFL2TX I use a speed app all the time. They work great.
I don't know, but I can tell you this; at 130 miles an hour telephone poles DO start to look like a picket fence, & @ 160 they're just strobing!
Glad it is a long bed.
I got 2. 1 super nice-but it’s still a long bed. 😢
Thanks!!! Short beds are nice but very pricey. I've got 4 complete trucks and a parts truck, all long beds. This Cheyenne is probably the nicest.
Too big lol. Run it
Nice strong build sounds awesome !!!!!!!
Thanks!!!!
No such thing as to big!
And by the sound, you should have went bigger. A lot bigger.
Driveable, and driveability on a daily basis are not the same. It's all about matching peak torque production to rpm's you will see most often. That is determined by many factors. This build is counter productive. 383 build = lower end torque production, od trans, tall gears ike LOW end torque. Driving around town LOVES low end torque. Cam that starts coming on at 2500? Sounds great but for a daily that lope means your mileage suffers for the sound. Throw in a cam suited for low end torque and then go ahead and advance it 4 degrees and you will get way better mileage, and you will have a stump puller!
This engine was originally built to go in a 2nd gen camaro. I think the cam company recommended this cam to bleed off more cylinder pressure to be able to keep it in the pump gas range. The engine is 11.2:1 compression. This truck has 3.73 gears. Is it suitable for "daily driving"? I had a goodwrench 350/th350 in this truck before and averaged 10mpg on a 500 mile trip. This 383 makes probably more than double the hp and averages 12.5mpg. It even gets better average mileage than my other 71c10 that has a stock rebuilt 350/4speed and 3.42 gears.
Again counterproductive. Any time this bleed cylinder pressure tactic is used, power is left on the table. Imho... Wrong cam..
that thing sounds amazing!
i have pretty much the same setup on my 383 but using a little bigger Howards cam 186755-10 with 1.6 rockers
how much initial and final advance are you using?
thanks man!
@ernestopanattvillegas7307 Thanks!!! For timing it idles at 18° and total is at 36°. I have lighter springs that bring it all in by about 2500 rpm.
Nice cam love the sound I have the 186755-10 to but still putting motor together love the video
@ernestopanattvillegas7307 do yu have a video of your cam
@@billyrusley4545 thanks
I miss my Sebendy2
Tam's other half
Thats a nice street cam
U obviously don’t got the speedo working huh. Bro manual shift body’s with colum shifter come on. Can I recon d a winters gate shifter with the mounting case as well. Then get a e from a Silverado or something hook to trans put the digital controller back in for auto shifting. Something along these lines.
I'm bout to put my winters sidewinder from my mud truck in my cutlass I love it it's the only shifter we found that didn't fail in the mud
It was the cheapest option to see if this trans worked. I didn't want to spend money on the controller for the 4l80e and then it be junk. I'm glad I didn't because once I got the trans in and driveshaft built, I had only 1st and 2nd gear. Had to replace the valve body. The controller is an NCR80E from eBay. Basically, it just hotwires the electronics and shifts like a manual valve body. One hot wire and switched ground for the lockup. In time, I would like to put a nice controller in the truck to prevent a money shift, and the wife hates having to shift it.
Did you use some type of stand alone set up with that 4l80e? I have a big block in my 88 monte carlo ss looking for something with overdrive
I used the NCR80E harness from eBay. It basically hot wires the transmission so you have to manually shift it and a switched ground for the lockup converter. Would be nice if it shifted auto but $100 compared to $800....
It can't be that big if you set the red line @ 5,000 rpm. Yes I know it's a 383 but a 2019 Charger 392 is larger but redline @ 6,000 rpm. What gear ratio?
The cam company says 28-6600 rpm. That little red slider gets moved around all the time as I don't have a working speedometer at the moment. I have a rev limiter set around 6200.
@@jdbas71 I'm sorry. It does sound like it will cut a rug.
I own 2016 SRT 392 challenger. I'm cruising 70mph my tach is at 1200rpm. 3.09 gears for automatic
Theres many limiting factors to safe rpm.
Wish my cab was that guit.
Awesome truck
Thanks. New dash pad and seat cover made a world of difference.
I've got a single pattern solid cam, 241/241 @50 on a 108 lobe centre with 550 lift in my oval port big block chev Holden HQ Monaro.
2800 stall, 3.5 gears
255/60/15 tyres.
Great fun to drive daily down here in Australia ( when it aint raining )
Sounds like a blast. Thanks for watching!!!!
I've got a 243/243 @ 50 108 lobe with 638 lift In my xe falcon, I drive it most days to work. it seems fine for a daily/streeter
That firing order at idle is sweeeeeeet mutherfvck'n music!
Thanks!!!
I built a 383 I went with the Howard’s 110265-10-S billet Roller on a small base circle
Should run pretty good!!!!
I love big Cams street applications, bought blueprint 509 BBC Cam lift 647 int 647 exhaust 248 deg int/254 exh, 112 CL behind tremec 5speed. Howard make awesome grinds and Durations on their Cam Sound Serious.
Same here. Your absolutely correct, howards cams seem like magic. This cam has way more duration and lift than a lunati 268 I ran, and it idles possibly smoother.
@jdbas71 that's a Ultradyne cam you have NOT a Howard's.... That cam profile is an Ultradyne from Harold Brookshires Landis Machine Howard's bought at the auction.... I have my own cam profile I got from Harold before he died... It's nasty asf !!! Pushes a 505 BBC very nicely 😎 .... The lil 268 lunati you spoke of us also an Ultradyne cam made for lunati under the Voodoo line...
Harold's best cam he designed can still be bought from lunati as an off the shelf cam.... A flat tappet solid that will put a BBC 454 with 10.5:1 and proper heads in the 700/700 category.... Next is his .904 lifter profile for ASCA....
Matching it up with the right stall converter is where the magic happens. I'd recommend a Coan
Don’t seem like u changed th head yet. It’s the 363 or 373
I assume your talking about the speedo head. The original head won't work with the electronic trans without a driver to convert speed signal to a cable. Truck has 3.73 rear gears in it.
You really need a vacum gauge on it for what your doing! It helps alot!
Sounds nice but that truck would pull a lot harder with something more in the 236I/244E duration because you’d have a lot more torque at your shift recovery rpm
Sure it works and it drives nice but at that Trucks weight and converter flash rpm you are leaving ET on the table
Cam would be perfect in an early Camaro or nova with about 6-800 less pounds to deal with when it catches the next gear…just my opinion of course… but I’ve built a lot of stokers
That cam is great in that truck.... As to your Camaro weight idea.... Your quite incorrect on the weight difference... A 1969 C10 short box is almost the same weight as a Camaro.....
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I’d say 3500 would be a really light C10 with a smallblock. A 67-68 Camaro would be around 3000. No way a steel body C10 comes in that light factory equipped with a v8
We’ll agree to disagree but I’d have a smaller cam in it and still et quicker all else being equal. Now if you mean a 78 Camaro then yeah no question.
I mean no disrespect but unless you got the head flow and rpm and gearing to optimize that big of a cam ( especially a relatively mild ramped hydraulic as that Howard’s is) you’ll run stronger through the middle with a cam like I described.
And if you had that much head and compression to support a big hydraulic roller at ‘only’ 383 cubes, I’d likely run a solid roller anyway. Just because it runs ‘well enough’ …doesn’t mean it’s optimal for the combo.
My stuffs on TH-cam , that Jeep CJ7 runs very low 12’and with a far smaller cam than that…just saying
So no it’s ‘not too big for the street’ it’s just (IMHO) a bit too big to optimize the average torque and power compared to something a little smaller and snappier.
Why does yours look Ike a long wheelbase? It’s that a 70 Charger in your garage?
@wizerulz mine is a lwb. I got a 69 firebird in the garage I'm resurecting for my ol man. He's had it for ever and it's sat with an engine out of it for over 30 yrs.
Very cool, I love those old firebirds!
Cam too big? Nah......NEED MORE EVERYTHING!
That's exactly the way it was too after I put this stroker in. It found of the limits of the transmission the drives shaft and the rearend.
That's a great sound...
Great street camshaft
It really is. It was a kind of a bear to tune the carb and timing to get it dialed in for the street but, it's getting better
That is a great sounding engine at that speed with OD.
Thanks!!! Before the OD it was a great around town hot rod. The OD made it nice for hwy cruising. We've took it on several trips over an hr from the house. Needs a working ac next😆
@@jdbas71 well winter is setting in so that can wait another three or four months!
@@jdbas71.... Should have used a th400 w/ gearvendors behind it... 6spd auto 😎😁😁😁😁
For me too much cam is a solid roller & how long the lifters will last! The rest is up to the tuner! Ps. After going threw your comments seems to make me ask if you've checked your pinion angle ?
Yep. Hyd roller can get pretty aggressive in a street engine and still last.
Want to know if u think it's big cam who would have read line at 5 grand. Have a Monte big block 680 lift drive every were 7800 all the time Cruz Town all day
😆 I had a grip of people tell me i over cammed my small block for the street. 😆 I laughed because they probably tried it and dropped thier stock hei in, set the timing to factory spec and it ran like shit. If the tune is right, ya can get some really radical engines to have really great street manners.
In all actuality, the redine is just there. I slide that thing around all the time because I don't have a working speedometer at the moment. Set it at my intended hwy speed and keep it somewhere close to that. It has a rev limiter so I ain't to worried about a "redline". A guy can rev an engine to 8k all day but really pointless if it peaks hp around 6k.
Thank you for saying that my thoughts exactly
Looks like you're in the SW part of Kansas on or close to US 54
I figured he'd show how much power it really has the guys like my grandpa
Hard to hear in the video, once I got up to 70-80ish it had an awful growl coming from the diff. Pulled the cover and it's full of glitter. Looks like it was crushing the crush sleeve under power and the pinion preload was gone. I've got in it a few times. Rolled into it at 50ish and found the limit of a stock built th350. Fixed that and brought it up on the stall and floored it in the driveway. Exploded the front yoke. That's why is has the 4l80e, 3in shaft with 1350 yokes now lol. Currently on jackstands waiting on the ring and pinion to get here.
Come on!
love the truck! runs awesome. got a 72 C 10 long bed. peace
Thanks!! These are by far my favorite bodystyle ol chevy.