That's correct. It's a "momentary" switch. Traditionally the trainer works like this: when the switch is down, the instructor is controlling the plane. When the instructor pulls on the switch, the student is controlling. So, if there's a panic situation, the instructor won't accidentally leave the student in control of the plane if the instructor needs to jump in and take over the controls.
Easier way still: 1- source: HALF; wt: 100; switch: ID0 2- source: HALF; wt: 60; switch: ID1 3- source: HALF; wt: 20; switch: ID2 4- source: FULL; wt: 100; switch: AIL; Multpx: Multiply That way you set values at 20%, 60% and 100% on the 'ID' switch, then multiply that by either 100% or -100% with the AIL switch this will give you a nice clean value table of: -100,-60,-20,20,60,100 Hope it helps
Nice video!! Super simple and clear!! Just getting into rc's in general after many years away. Your video and some others I have seen on youtube are making it easier for me to get my head around the newer technology. Thanks!
awesome!!!!!!!!!!! took a huge pain out of my ass ! lol...and now i wont go bald scratchin my head..you totally helped a ton of us with 9xr radios...thank you!!!
Mark that's so helpful, many thanks. I have a TGY 9XR radio, Naza Lite and EzUHF JR Module / Rx. So I followed your instructions to set up 6 channels on Naza and Ive used GPS Atti (ID0) Atti (ID1) Manual (ID2) with Aileron switch down. Then with Aileron switch up I have Failsafe (ID0) and Failsafe (ID1). For some reason I couldn't configure failsafe for ID3 but Im well happy. Thanks again Mark your a funkin hero.
Thanks for your help! Finally figured it out!Just to share my values: +110 HALF AIL -5 HALF ID0 -33 HALF !ID1 -66 HALF !ID2 This way it uses better logic. Works perfect with 6 modes on the CC3D board:)
Awesome video man...I was struggling with this for an hour using the FULL/MAX method (didn't work)...yours worked on the first try with a 9x running er9x. Thanks for the video!!!!
Very informative and easy to follow, thank you very much for this!! I'm going to have to start contributing to the apm user community also, thanks for the inspiration.
When I set my 9XR Pro up this way and hooked to Mission planner; this set up was inverted and did nothing with ID2. So, I did the invert in Limits and when I decreased the positive 100 to 90, then the ID2 switch worked for the up position on the AIL switch, but not the down position. So now, I can find 5 of the 6 positions in flight modes on Mission Planner.
Thank you for this vid!!! I've apm and for sure will ge super handy. My menu behave a little different, When inserting, I've not that drop down menu. I press menu a couple of times and full row is highlighted, then I press down and a copy of the previous line is made. Well, at least I got same behavior as you so seems ok..
OH Wait now I see what you are saying about the add-in board for the 9X and not the 9XR. Sorry I was too focused on the Smartiepants thing that I missed your real point. hahaha
Ouch! Try this mix which will give you three distinct values for ID[012]. The 3 fields to edit are Source (all FULL), Weight (100,0,-100), and Multiplex (all set to replace). CH06 R +100%FULL Switch(ID0) R +0%FULL Switch(ID1) R -100%FULL Switch(ID2)
Hey I finally managed to get these mixs programmed but I didnt know there was a GUI for the 9XR ??? Where do ya get it? Ill look for it now because that would be great. Hey BTW what did ya mean whan ya called me "Smartiepants"? I didnt mean to be if I came off that way ok. Thanks for your help. :)
If you have the USB port on the radio (Smartiepants for one) you can do all this from your computer.. Download and install eePe, "read" memory from radio and save a copy on your computer, make the necessary changes via the GUI, save a second copy and then "write memory" back to radio.. To delete a mix, go to the "mixes" tab, left click to highlight mix, right click and hit delete.. gone..
Hello. I just received this radio today. I'm pretty new to this hobby and I found that the TRN switch, in the up-right-back has only one position. So If I move to second position like other switches it wont hold, even if its value changes on screen. Is this correct? May be I got a faulty unit.
Mark I tried to follow your setup I have something weird going on when my Ail switch is up the bar graph is up to the plus side when I pull down on it it goes to zero any ideas? Thanks Gary
OK now I am really confused. I only need 3 positions from my 3 pos sw. I am setuping up a NAZA-M ok. I Set CH6 ID0 for (manual) mode ID1 for (Atti) Mode but I cannot get the 3rd position (ID2?) to work for (GPS) mode. ID0, ID1 & ID2 are the three positions of the 3 pos switch right? Position 1 and 2 work great but I cant adjust 3 at all. I am missing something arent I ?
Hi! I have a question. When setting this up in mission planner for arduPLANE I am only able to set up 5 flight modes. The 6th will not highlight to change. Any ideas? Also when callibraating my radio in mission planner Channel 5 gets 6 different PWM readings as I move the two switches on the 9xr BUT, when I Go in to setup flight modes on mission planner the 9xr switches have no affect on the flight mode. I hope this makes sence. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Ok. I figured out the second part of my question but, I am still only able to change 5 of the 6 flight modes. The sixth is no changeable. Is this common?
Hi Mark! I Have my dron ready to fly but I have a little problem because I don't know how to flying it. I think it's because I dont't push a correct combination in the turnigy 9XRPRO because the computer recognize it perfectly. Can you help me? Thanks!
1st can you tell me how to delete a mix? I got lucky and did it once but now I can figure it out again. I have screwed my CH mixing up so bad I need to start over and try your settings. :( Damn this is hard for me or something. Ive never used this radio before :( Thanks for your help man.
Hi Mark Great video, don't have a Quad, can you give me switch setup for plane,ie what controls what, I'm having no luck getting fail safe to work, find for some reason when RTL is switched on motor stops ????. this is with my original er9x now have a new 9XR can you tell me what drivers you used for USBasp I have XP on PC. Regards and cheers Geoff
I am using the NAZA-M Assistant to watch my TX settings on my computer screen. I have ID0 set correctly for (Manual mode), I have ID1 set correctly for (Atti) mode but I cannot get the third position ID2 set for my GPS mode. What in the heck am I doing wrong here? OMG I wish I had hair so I could pull it out!!!
PUWAhahaha omg I am so glad that I wasnt rude with you over that. hahah I thought that ya called me a "Smartiepants" haha If you will look back you will see that thats what it says. It was prob your spellcheck or something. I was like -> "Uhhh what did I say?" to get that treatment. haha Thanks for your help man and I am still interested in getting that GUI if you know where I can get it? :) :)
I Hello Mark, I write from Brazil and my English is not very good so I may have missed some explanation. This setting, and values can be used for any type of quadricoptero ? Thank you.
If ail switc is 0% and 96%, then if you add 17% 45% and 90% on ail0% then it will be 0,17,90%. But uf you do add 17,45,90% on -96% then it will be 79,51,6%. What I wanna say is that its not centered. Its 79,51,6 vs 0,17,90. Am I correct?
Is there any easy way of using the same switches for the turnigy 9x with original firmware? I can´t seem to get it to work. I have found a solution to use the gear switch but would like to use the ''ail'' switch instead of the 2 position gear switch. Thanks in advance, seem you know what you are doing. :)
+Albin Jidorf Yes, it can... It's not easy! I made some notes about how to do that here: eastbay-rc.blogspot.com/2011/05/ardupilot-mega-turnigy-9x-mixing.html .Good Luck!!
+Mark Harrison thanks for your quick answer. I will read your notes more in depth tomorrow and hopefully everything will come together. Otherwise i think i simply switch the place of the switches. That will probably do.
I opened the casing for the transmitter and noticed that only two wires were different between the two switches. I changed the position using a soldering iron and so far it has worked flawlessly. I do prefer this setup because the two switches can easily be controlled using only one hand.
That's correct. It's a "momentary" switch. Traditionally the trainer works like this: when the switch is down, the instructor is controlling the plane. When the instructor pulls on the switch, the student is controlling. So, if there's a panic situation, the instructor won't accidentally leave the student in control of the plane if the instructor needs to jump in and take over the controls.
Easier way still:
1- source: HALF; wt: 100; switch: ID0
2- source: HALF; wt: 60; switch: ID1
3- source: HALF; wt: 20; switch: ID2
4- source: FULL; wt: 100; switch: AIL; Multpx: Multiply
That way you set values at 20%, 60% and 100% on the 'ID' switch, then multiply that by either 100% or -100% with the AIL switch
this will give you a nice clean value table of: -100,-60,-20,20,60,100
Hope it helps
Watched 5 other videos showing the same thing.. none of them worked. Thank you for the simple and quick help!
Nice video!! Super simple and clear!! Just getting into rc's in general after many years away. Your video and some others I have seen on youtube are making it easier for me to get my head around the newer technology. Thanks!
awesome!!!!!!!!!!! took a huge pain out of my ass ! lol...and now i wont go bald scratchin my head..you totally helped a ton of us with 9xr radios...thank you!!!
Mark that's so helpful, many thanks. I have a TGY 9XR radio, Naza Lite and EzUHF JR Module / Rx. So I followed your instructions to set up 6 channels on Naza and Ive used GPS Atti (ID0) Atti (ID1) Manual (ID2) with Aileron switch down. Then with Aileron switch up I have Failsafe (ID0) and Failsafe (ID1). For some reason I couldn't configure failsafe for ID3 but Im well happy. Thanks again Mark your a funkin hero.
Thanks for your help! Finally figured it out!Just to share my values:
+110 HALF AIL
-5 HALF ID0
-33 HALF !ID1
-66 HALF !ID2
This way it uses better logic. Works perfect with 6 modes on the CC3D board:)
+bramslo I had to use your settings to get this to work! now it works a treat.
thanks mate
+bramslo sweet!
Awesome video man...I was struggling with this for an hour using the FULL/MAX method (didn't work)...yours worked on the first try with a 9x running er9x. Thanks for the video!!!!
Mark, you made my apm 2.6 mode setup super simple.
Thank You
Paul DTOM happy to help!
Nice video. Have my radio setup now so I'll go finish setting up GCS and get flying. Thanks, Mark.
Happy Flying!
Very informative and easy to follow, thank you very much for this!! I'm going to have to start contributing to the apm user community also, thanks for the inspiration.
+djquestionthis You bet! and looking forward to anything you put together!
Thank you so much, I was struggling to set this from last few days.
When I set my 9XR Pro up this way and hooked to Mission planner; this set up was inverted and did nothing with ID2. So, I did the invert in Limits and when I decreased the positive 100 to 90, then the ID2 switch worked for the up position on the AIL switch, but not the down position. So now, I can find 5 of the 6 positions in flight modes on Mission Planner.
nice tutorial, I would have skipped the demos till the end but it still worked here just fine.. (eePe)
Thanks. Very excellent and comprehensive video. Thanks again.
Still the best video on this .
Thank you for this vid!!! I've apm and for sure will ge super handy. My menu behave a little different, When inserting, I've not that drop down menu. I press menu a couple of times and full row is highlighted, then I press down and a copy of the previous line is made. Well, at least I got same behavior as you so seems ok..
good stuff. Thanks for putting this together for us!
+Peter Schultze you bet!
OH Wait now I see what you are saying about the add-in board for the 9X and not the 9XR. Sorry I was too focused on the Smartiepants thing that I missed your real point. hahaha
Thank you so much. My APM is on the way, your vid will be usefull for sure.
Great video, exellent job, thank you.
many thanks man, well appriciated!!
Ouch! Try this mix which will give you three distinct values for ID[012]. The 3 fields to edit are Source (all FULL), Weight (100,0,-100), and Multiplex (all set to replace).
CH06 R +100%FULL Switch(ID0)
R +0%FULL Switch(ID1)
R -100%FULL Switch(ID2)
Nice, I have the same radio and ardupilot 2.5 with GPS and telemetry.
Lol, that's "smartieparts", it's an add-in board for the 9x (not 9xr) that adds a USB port.
Yea that's a perfectly logical setup
great set up very easy thank you
You bet, happy flying!
Hey I finally managed to get these mixs programmed but I didnt know there was a GUI for the 9XR ??? Where do ya get it? Ill look for it now because that would be great. Hey BTW what did ya mean whan ya called me "Smartiepants"? I didnt mean to be if I came off that way ok. Thanks for your help. :)
Thank you, needed that one 👍
u are my hero!!! thanks pal!!!!!
+marco ghidelli :)
If you have the USB port on the radio (Smartiepants for one) you can do all this from your computer.. Download and install eePe, "read" memory from radio and save a copy on your computer, make the necessary changes via the GUI, save a second copy and then "write memory" back to radio..
To delete a mix, go to the "mixes" tab, left click to highlight mix, right click and hit delete.. gone..
Hello. I just received this radio today. I'm pretty new to this hobby and I found that the TRN switch, in the up-right-back has only one position. So If I move to second position like other switches it wont hold, even if its value changes on screen. Is this correct? May be I got a faulty unit.
Mark
I tried to follow your setup I have something weird going on when my Ail switch is up the bar graph is up to the plus side when I pull down on it it goes to zero any ideas? Thanks Gary
Great video! Thanks!!!
OK now I am really confused. I only need 3 positions from my 3 pos sw. I am setuping up a NAZA-M ok. I Set CH6 ID0 for (manual) mode ID1 for (Atti) Mode but I cannot get the 3rd position (ID2?) to work for (GPS) mode. ID0, ID1 & ID2 are the three positions of the 3 pos switch right? Position 1 and 2 work great but I cant adjust 3 at all. I am missing something arent I ?
Hi! I have a question. When setting this up in mission planner for arduPLANE I am only able to set up 5 flight modes. The 6th will not highlight to change. Any ideas? Also when callibraating my radio in mission planner Channel 5 gets 6 different PWM readings as I move the two switches on the 9xr BUT, when I Go in to setup flight modes on mission planner the 9xr switches have no affect on the flight mode. I hope this makes sence. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
That's awesome, thanks for sharing!
Question: Can you make another switch override the channel to -100 or 100?
Ok. I figured out the second part of my question but, I am still only able to change 5 of the 6 flight modes. The sixth is no changeable. Is this common?
Hi Mark! I Have my dron ready to fly but I have a little problem because I don't know how to flying it. I think it's because I dont't push a correct combination in the turnigy 9XRPRO because the computer recognize it perfectly. Can you help me? Thanks!
1st can you tell me how to delete a mix? I got lucky and did it once but now I can figure it out again. I have screwed my CH mixing up so bad I need to start over and try your settings. :( Damn this is hard for me or something. Ive never used this radio before :( Thanks for your help man.
Thankyou for the info but the video is kind of confusing for those of us that have just go the 9XR. Thankyou
Thanks a million
tks Mark!
Hi Mark
Great video, don't have a Quad, can you give me switch setup for plane,ie what controls what, I'm having no luck getting fail safe to work, find for some reason when RTL is switched on motor stops ????. this is with my original er9x now have a new 9XR can you tell me what drivers you used for USBasp I have XP on PC. Regards and cheers Geoff
I am using the NAZA-M Assistant to watch my TX settings on my computer screen. I have ID0 set correctly for (Manual mode), I have ID1 set correctly for (Atti) mode but I cannot get the third position ID2 set for my GPS mode. What in the heck am I doing wrong here? OMG I wish I had hair so I could pull it out!!!
PUWAhahaha omg I am so glad that I wasnt rude with you over that. hahah I thought that ya called me a "Smartiepants" haha If you will look back you will see that thats what it says. It was prob your spellcheck or something. I was like -> "Uhhh what did I say?" to get that treatment. haha Thanks for your help man and I am still interested in getting that GUI if you know where I can get it? :) :)
I Hello Mark, I write from Brazil and my English is not very good so I may have missed some explanation. This setting, and values can be used for any type of quadricoptero ? Thank you.
+Juliano Gomes No, it depends on the quadcopter flight controller. But if any controller uses a single channel with 6 values, this will work.
thank you sir
great, thanx a lot!!!
If ail switc is 0% and 96%, then if you add 17% 45% and 90% on ail0% then it will be 0,17,90%. But uf you do add 17,45,90% on -96% then it will be 79,51,6%. What I wanna say is that its not centered. Its 79,51,6 vs 0,17,90. Am I correct?
Great vid. Anyone know if this is possibe one the fs-i6 or fs-t6?
Thank you
great tutto
could you share you setting file it will be easier to install it on his own radio
how did you get half setting??
Is there any easy way of using the same switches for the turnigy 9x with original firmware? I can´t seem to get it to work. I have found a solution to use the gear switch but would like to use the ''ail'' switch instead of the 2 position gear switch. Thanks in advance, seem you know what you are doing. :)
+Albin Jidorf Yes, it can... It's not easy! I made some notes about how to do that here: eastbay-rc.blogspot.com/2011/05/ardupilot-mega-turnigy-9x-mixing.html .Good Luck!!
+Mark Harrison thanks for your quick answer. I will read your notes more in depth tomorrow and hopefully everything will come together. Otherwise i think i simply switch the place of the switches. That will probably do.
I opened the casing for the transmitter and noticed that only two wires were different between the two switches. I changed the position using a soldering iron and so far it has worked flawlessly. I do prefer this setup because the two switches can easily be controlled using only one hand.
+Albin Jidorf That's great. Simple and reliable, I will remember this for the next time someone asks. Thanks!!
Wasted 4 hours on figuring out the values ... should've found your video sooner :D
+parichya gautam lol, that's about how long I took to figure it out myself!
fodeu ......