The SIX men who CREATED HIP HOP.
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- How long does it take you to create a culture? How long does creation take? If Puerto Ricans are excluded from being credited as co-creators because the culture already existed when we joined, that means that ONLY SIX people can claim that they are creators of HIP HOP. HERC HOLLYWOOD FLASH MELLE MEL COWBOY BAMBATTA is EVERYBODY after that a guest? Or just the Puerto Ricans? We were all brothers through Hip Hop. This was NEVER spoken of THEN. The strongest, unspoken element in Hip Hop is LOVE. Stop the Division 🙏🏼🇵🇷
tell them
This topic of conversation never was up for any debate or argument. It's evil. Divisive. And stems from an outsider, not from the soil, a failed rapper, con man, culture vulture. A devil. Where was this from the beginning? 10 years in? 20 years in?
This conversation definitely been up for debate before TN th boogie man you blame everything on ever heard of it.
Age
66 years
Grandmaster Flash was born Joseph Saddler on January 1, 1958, in Barbados, West Indies. He then grew up in the Bronx, one of the five New York boroughs.
The same way you are wrong about Flash being born in Barbados, Colon is wrong about a gang of stuff in that documentary which already been debunked. I’m going to keep showing you the actual facts. There are people who even claimed Flash brought DJing from Barbados. He was BORN in the Bronx. Facts
Just like he did not invent the cross fader, dude be making ish up.
The Problem is that there is a small group of people who call themselves the FBA who main agenda with Hip Hop is to rewrite its history, but with the intention of giving themselves the credit of creating everything that has to do with Hip Hop, by claiming they create all the art form adopted by the Hip Hop movement by pointing and reaching outside of Hip Hop, like showing old Videos as proof, when in reality non of that had to do with the the inspiration that inaugurated the concept
of the Hip Hop Movement, and the is if we by the narrative of who, when and what created Hip Hop the roots of everything won’t be FBA
because if that is the case i will ask the FBA this, (What Art Form Adopted By Hip Hop was Created or invented by FBA ?) and i guarantee they won’t have the answer for that question !!
if we want to go with their narrative i will prove them that no FBA created any art form adopted by the Hip Hop movement
Well we all know that Hip Hop doesn’t just mean rap music. right?
we know Hip Hop is a Bronx born movement that adopted four art form elements. Right?
well, To understand how that came to be,
we first need to understand what those four art form elements are and how they became the foundations of the movement.
let's start with
Graffiti :
Graffiti is probably the oldest art form of expression adopted by the Hip Hop movement.
It is an art form that dates back to the beginning of human existence, possibly since the caveman era.
Now that we have clarified that, let's fast forward to modern graffiti. Before it was called graffiti, when it was known as tagging, which was all about marking your presence or letting people know you been their in that particular spot by writing or tagging on a wall surface.
In the 1950s and 1960s, it became associated with gangs, specifically to let other gangs know that a specific gang claimed a particular street block or neighborhood as their territory. by the time Tagging got adopted as an street graphic Art Form of expression for Hip Hop,
it also became an art form to promote DJs, breakers, and later on, MCs/rappers. basically the graffiti artists became the Streets promoters of the movement of Hip Hip
Djing : well Djing is the Newest Art form of them all ! but where and when do DJing Began ??
When DJing Began
DJing, as we understand it today, has its roots in the early 20th century. The term “disc jockey” was coined in 1935 by American radio commentator Walter Winchell to describe radio announcer Martin Block, who gained fame for playing popular recorded music over the airwaves. However, the practice of playing recorded music for an audience began even earlier.
The first significant instance of DJing can be traced back to 1909, when Ray Newby became the first person to play records on the radio. This marked the beginning of a new form of entertainment where recorded music was shared with a wider audience.
In terms of live performances, 1943 is notable as well; this is when Jimmy Savile launched what is considered the world’s first DJ dance party in Otley, England. He utilized multiple turntables to create continuous play, which eliminated pauses between songs and allowed audiences to keep dancing.
The evolution continued through the 1950s and 1960s with DJs increasingly performing at parties and clubs. By the mid-1960s, specialized equipment like mixers began to emerge, allowing DJs to blend tracks more seamlessly.
while the concept of DJing began with radio broadcasts in the early 20th century, it truly evolved into a performance art form during the 1940s and 1950s with live events and technological advancements that allowed for continuous mixing.
So What Makes a Hip Hop DJ a DJ?
Several key elements define what makes a hip hop DJ distinct from other types of DJs:
Turntablism Techniques:
Hip hop DJs utilize advanced techniques like scratching (manipulating the record back and forth), beat juggling (mixing two tracks to create new rhythms), and cutting (abruptly switching between tracks). These techniques allow them to create live remixes and add layers of sound that enhance the performance.
If Ever asked your self, did Hip Hop Dj was the first to make a turntable or a record player a instrument ?
well the answer is No !!
Turntablism Techniques before Hip Hop
The roots of turntablism can be traced back to the experimental music movements of the 1930s through the 1950s, where composers began using phonographs and turntables as instruments. These early explorations laid the groundwork for what would later evolve into the techniques used in hip hop turntablism. Here are some key techniques and concepts that emerged before hip hop popularized turntablism:
Musique Concrète
Definition: This was an avant-garde music genre that utilized recorded sounds as raw material for composition. Composers like Pierre Schaeffer and John Cage experimented with manipulating recorded sounds, including those from turntables.
Techniques: They employed methods such as looping, layering, and altering playback speed to create new soundscapes. For example, Cage’s “Imaginary Landscape No. 1” (1939) used variable-speed turntables to manipulate sound recordings.
Sampling and Sound Manipulation
Early Use: The concept of sampling-taking a portion of a sound recording and reusing it in a different context-was explored by these early composers. They treated records not just as playback devices but as sources for creating new compositions.
Techniques: Techniques included cutting segments of audio tape, splicing them together, and playing them back at different speeds or pitches.
Jamaican Dub Music
Influence on Turntablism: In the 1960s, Jamaican dub music introduced innovative mixing techniques that would later influence hip hop DJs. Dub pioneers like King Tubby and Lee “Scratch” Perry manipulated tracks by adding effects such as reverb and echo while isolating drum beats.
Techniques: DJs in this genre often used two turntables to create live remixes of songs, extending instrumental breaks and adding their own rhythmic elements.
Backspinning
Technique Description:
This technique involves quickly spinning a record backward to repeat a specific section of music or create a unique sound effect.
Application in Early Music: While not formally recognized as part of turntablism until later, backspinning was used by DJs in various genres to emphasize certain musical phrases or transitions.
Direct Drive Turntables
Technological Advancement:
The invention of direct-drive turntables in the late 1960s allowed DJs greater control over playback speed without damaging records. This technology became crucial for developing scratching techniques.
Impact on Performance: Direct-drive systems enabled DJs to manipulate records more aggressively than previous belt-driven models, facilitating techniques that would become staples in hip hop DJing.
Now an important question that we be asking is what really was the Dj for Hip Hop ?
The Answer is a Hip Hop Dj is basically the Band who play music for the Breakers to dance and the MC or Rappers to do what they do .. So The Dj is the Band in the Hip Hop Movement !!
B-boying :
A B-Boy is a breaker, a dancer who dance to the Break of a music, the part of a record where there is mostly a solo drum part or which is provided by the DJ
but to understand where it starts, we need to first understand that Breaking is what connects every dance and body movements techniques practice through the evolution of Human History which makes Breaking the second oldest Art form Adopted by the Hip Hop Movement,
for example Breaking is a combination of dances and body movements that can be traced back to, ancient, medieval and modern dance so lets just start with the 1800s is part of modern eras, so in 19th modern era in Brasil Capoeira, Martial Arts, Acrobatic dance we can see the similarities in combination,, also in more modern dances you can find connected to what is breaking about, like for example
1 The Foxtrot, 2 The Tango, 3 The Charleston
4 The Lindy Hop, 5 Swing Dancing, 6 The Jitterbug, 7 The Suzie Q , 8 The Lambeth Walk
9 The Mambo, 10 Cuban Rumba, 11 The Cha-Cha, 12 The Twist, 15 The Robot, 14 Popping
15 Locking, 16 Hustle, 17 Disco Dancing, 18 Up and down Rocking, 19 Burning, 20 Time Warp Dance, 21 Electric Slide
and that’s was just to name a few
by those examples, we can see that Breaking is the continue evolution of human body movement expressions that keeps evolving with the sound of the Hip Hop movement!!
B-boying :
A B-Boy is a breaker, a dancer who dance to the Break of a music, the part of a record where there is mostly a solo drum part or which is provided by the DJ
but to understand where it starts, we need to first understand that Breaking is what connects every dance and body movements techniques practice through the evolution of Human History which makes Breaking the second oldest Art form Adopted by the Hip Hop Movement,
for example Breaking is a combination of dances and body movements that can be traced back to, ancient, medieval and modern dance so lets just start with the 1800s is part of modern eras, so in 19th modern era in Brasil Capoeira, Martial Arts, Acrobatic dance we can see the similarities in combination,, also in more modern dances you can find connected to what is breaking about, like for example
1 The Foxtrot, 2 The Tango, 3 The Charleston
4 The Lindy Hop, 5 Swing Dancing, 6 The Jitterbug, 7 The Suzie Q , 8 The Lambeth Walk
9 The Mambo, 10 Cuban Rumba, 11 The Cha-Cha, 12 The Twist, 15 The Robot, 14 Popping
15 Locking, 16 Hustle, 17 Disco Dancing, 18 Up and down Rocking, 19 Burning, 20 Time Warp Dance, 21 Electric Slide
and that’s was just to name a few
by those examples, we can see that Breaking is the continue evolution of human body movement expressions that keeps evolving with the sound of the Hip Hop movement !!!
Mcing / Rapper;
Mcing is the 3rd oldest art form adopted by The Hip Hop movement .. but first we need to understand what is rapping is based about or what is the technical aspects of it !
What is Rapping?
Rapping, also known as emceeing or MCing, is an artistic form of vocal delivery that combines rhythmic speech and rhyme. It is typically performed over a musical accompaniment, often featuring a backing beat created by DJs or producers. The essence of rapping lies in its three primary components: content, which refers to the lyrics and themes being expressed; flow, which encompasses the rhythm and rhyme scheme; and delivery, which includes the cadence and tone of the performance
so now that we understand what is Rapping, can we find those verbal techniques in past history? the answer is Yes,
For example;
Poetry:
poetry and rapping share significant similarities,
particularly in their reliance on rhyme, rhythm, structure through verses/stanzas, thematic exploration of human experiences, creative language use, repetition for emphasis, and performance elements that enhance their expressive power.
The goes for Nursery Rhymes
Rap music, with its emphasis on flow and delivery, draws inspiration from the rhythmic qualities present in nursery rhymes. The metrical techniques used in rap, such as accenting syllables, rhyming patterns, and syncopation, can be seen as extensions of the basic rhythmic structures found in nursery rhymes. Both forms rely on repetitive patterns and structured rhythms to create engaging and memorable compositions.
This connection highlights how the simple and repetitive nature of nursery rhymes has influenced the development of rapping , particularly in terms of cadence, rhyme placement, and overall lyrical delivery….
All the people you named integrated into Blsck Culture. You are hooked on the name Hip Hop. Saying Hollywood wasnt Hip Hop.....yet Melle Mel took his style and added to it doesnt add up. You cant do that. Rappin has always been in Black Culture..regardless of style. The music was first....Latinos werent at the indoor Herc parties. Its very disingenuous to even claim yall helped invent it. Flash and Herc...lived a Black American lifestyle and integrated into Black American Culture. Graffiti isn't an original element
Unfortunately, the breakdancing and the graffiti has taken a backseat to hip-hop culture. Puerto Ricans were all up in that. But people don't know. Thank you for the history. You should keep making videos. Just keep adding chapters. Keep ming the history of the origins of hip-hop.
🙏🏼 thank you brother
Bruh, there weren't any latino breaks dancing or rapping in the 1960s.
@@donaldmccall3968 that wasn’t hip hop
Your "Hip hop" isn't our Hip Hop, Two totally different things, Anything you like we don't, Regardless the GOAT of rapping is Tupac Shakur, I don't know any Puerto Rican rappers or lyricist
So because you don’t know any, that means they never existed?
I LOVE Tupac. What are you talking about. I hung out and smoked with Tupac for hours.
@@luiscaban3301 So you understand a black man is the greatest and most talented lyricist it ever was, I know Puerto Rico has a lot of rhythm, But what we do is different, In Southern America(The South) we merge old school soul and harmonizing into our raps and lyrics, I don't get the whole anybody created hip hop argument, Our interpretation of hip hop isn't the same as people of Puerto Rico, Their isn't a tropical vibe to what we do, Our hip hop is focused on oppression and growing up with the same people who raped and killed us on plantations, It's two totally different genres
@@zoocepierce4556 YOU-MUST-LEARN!!!!!!!!! Quick question:
Who can be identified as a “creator” of Hip Hop? Are the ColdCrush Brothers creators of Hip Hop? OF COURSE THEY ARE. So if Grandmaster Caz is a CREATOR of HIP HOP, then so is Charlie Chase! Since, of course, Grand Wizard Theodore is a CREATOR of Hip Hop then Whipper Whip and Ruby D are also "creators" Lord Jamal said Puerto Ricans cannot be considered creators of Hip Hop because the culture existed BEFORE we joined. By THAT logic, ONLY Herc, Bam, Flash, Hollywood, Mel & Cowboy actually CREATED HIP HOP. NOT ALL FBA’S then and DEFINITELY not FBA’s who are popping up now talking trash. Prior to 1976, DJ’s were doing their little DJ Raps, Coke La Rock was rocking the crowds with short simple rhymes. That was an ELEMENT of Hip Hop. The Elements of Hip Hop (graffiti, break dancing, talkin rhythmically over percussion) all EXISTED PRIOR to HIP HOP in American Black culture AND other cultures, but was NOT YET HIP HOP. If we’re gonna credit The Jubalairs etc then we’re gonna include poets in Puerto Rico where they rhymed over percussion and called it "IMPROVISANDO" Which means Improvising, which is another word for freestyle rhyming. They used to rhyme insults at each other, and then yell BOMBA! (The bomb 💣) But the version of HIP HOP that lives today isn’t an extension of ANY OF THOSE. When MELLE Mel wrote “a child is born” He wasn’t thinking about that goofy “Noah’s arc rap” by the Jubilairs. Our version of Hip Hop was invented by those six guys In NYC and among them was a Jamaican (Herc) and a Caribbean (Flash) Mel and Cowboy were american black and cherokee the ONLY pure Black American (FBA) was Hollywood. So if we talkin about "creation" it was those SIX men. If we are including black performers AFTER those SIX men then we gonna include the NY Ricans who were doing it along side them. Mel and Cowboy finalized the definition of an MC in late 76-early 77. The reason this is important is because prior to 76, flash had not invented a way to keep a STEADY bed of music for the MC to rhyme on. Herc Never used a cueing system so he could NOT keep the beats, on time. So since Mel & Cowboy created that genre of MC’ing, does THAT mean that NO MC’s after them can be considered a creator? In my opinion, any body who was rocking crowds in 1977 doing Graffiti, Break dancing, DJing (cutting ON BEAT) and MCing, is a CREATOR of Hip Hop because they participated and added to a Culture that was BEING CREATED/CULTIVATED/ formulated during that year 1977. Those Pioneers included PUERTO RICANS or more specifically NEW YORK RICANS. But It was NOT 50/50. The performers were probably 10% Puerto Rican, the crowds were definitely at LEAST 35.% Puerto Ricans practicing NYC, ghetto culture. While Puerto Ricans were ADDING to the culture in 1977, MOST black people outside of NYC HATED Hip Hop OR had no idea it EXISTED! So I ask, are THOSE black people "creators" of HIP HOP? Wait, but Puerto Ricans who LOVED Hip Hop and were LIVING it were NOT? If the question is what did puerto ricans bring from "Puerto Rican culture"?, the answer is NOTHING. So my return question is: What did “FBA's” bring from AFRICAN culture? NOTHING ALSO. Many American blacks made FUN of Africans while Puerto Ricans played AFRICAN drums as part of puerto rican music at outside "jams" with actual instruments IN THE BRONX. WE CELEBRATED AFRICAN CULTURE while FBA's called africans "african booty scratchers" Our contribution's to the elements of HIP HOP run deeper and prior to 1973. Jimmy Castor (Just begun) and James Brown were influenced by Latin Musicians as early as the 1930's. Check these bars out:
Duke Ellington. Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis
When Tito puente & mambo kings
become famous
Jazz musicians from BIRDLAND
with Johnny Pacheco
Dexter Gordon, Quincy Jones
& Ray Barretto
They influenced each other
straight from the rip pop
So why would it stop
when it got to Hip Hop?
These budding musicians of the time loved and influenced EACH OTHER. Any rhyme Whipper Whip or Ruby D or Devastating Tito spit, was ADDING TO THE CULTURE. Style, lyrics, dancing. When the first outside jams and hip-hop shows finally formulated and the crowd could look up at the first groups, THEY SAW Puerto Ricans. When those entertainers looked out into the crowd, they saw Puerto Ricans. I would ask any FBA who is arguing about this point ONE IMPORTANT question: what did YOU personally contribute to the culture of hip hop???? If you don’t have an answer to that question, you should not be talking you should be LISTENING. Ask ME that question and I have ANSWERS. Cut it out. We are brothers like it or not. The blacks from down south, the black from Santo Domingo, the blacks from Puerto Rico, all come from the same place, Africa. Hip Hops MAIN, forgotten element is LOVE. Yes Puerto Ricans prior hated black people. And Yes blacks HATED Puerto Ricans too! I got jumped by a black gang at 10 years old cause I was Puerto Rican. Most gangs in NYC at the time were racially divided. HIP HOP CHANGED THAT WITH LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE. So I spit words of wisdom to hateful men, who ain’t even from New York and they ain’t from then. See this is the reason that I’m so concerned, because YOU MUST LEARN!! TMP
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@@luiscaban3301 it's different, My hip hop isn't tropical, No pretty flowers, No beautiful oceans, Southern hip hop originated from the pain of white oppression and our African ancestors who sang spirituals, Your hip hop isn't ours at all, There's no debate, Their two totally different genres