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Even though a HUGE majority of us already knew what was gonna go down, it still felt creepy and gut wrenching to watch, the way the actor carried himself, the slow and sweet pacing all around builds up to the revealing and David’s true character.
Bro I'm a huge fan but did you change up your speech pattern? Every sentence starting pretty low tone middle is high and then ends shortly in a lower tone, similar number of syllables, have you always written/read your lines like that?? It's messing me up listening now
"Things like Clickers and Bloaters don't exist in our world, but people like David do." Very well said, man. And it's absolutely bone-chilling, because it's true. There are Davids everywhere, hiding in plain sight.
@@AussBosss You will never meet them at work, you only meet them at high stakes and high reward types of business settings. Places where you could get away with a lot of rule-bending/breaking. I had never met them anywhere else before, their true nature only manifests under a specific set of circumstances. They hide really well in plain sight.
One thing I havent seen anyone comment on, despite seeming kinda obvious, is the quantity of food he gets for himself in comparison with the others. With it being the girl's father, it makes it even more creepy, it's like he's commemorating his kill
I don’t think that he’s commemorating it necessarily, because it wasn’t “his kill.” The girl’s dad was the man that Joel killed in ep 6. If that’s him that they’re eating, that is.
came to say basically the same thing yeah, i thought they showed how the less "useful" people had basically just a splash of sauce while david had a full plate.
I was glad they hammered home with David, and didn’t water him down, His overall character and presence was a defining moment in the character of Ellie and her overall story arc.
I get that people are a bit upset/disappointed that there are not many zombie scenes in a show about zombies. But I think they want to focus in on how people are the real monsters, the zombies are just there to push people into situations were their true nature comes out.
i mean, it's the last of us, not the last of them they did show that the cordyzombs generally stay where they are unless they're disturbed or triggered, and after 20yrs, if people didn't learn how to ignore/avoid them, that's less realistic?
He also pulls a very classic grooming predator move that older people use on teenagers where they basically praise them and tell them things like they're smarter or more mature or whatever than everyone else their age. They try to make their target think that they're equals at a time when you're really still a kid but you desperately want to be taken more seriously and start thinking of yourself as a young adult. And I definitely think that girl David slapped was his initial target, she's the only person in the crowd we see who speak up at all, even her mother doesn't. Which makes me think he was grooming her already and making her think she's special to him in some way. But when he saw Ellie he changed his mind and her privileged position was taken away.
You're right, but that's extra disturbing, because that's the kind of thing any good teacher/mentor/relative might say to a bullied or precocious kid, hoping to empower them and make them feel more able to stand up to others. The idea of people using encouraging words like that as a tool for evil is just so awful. Then you remember David *was a teacher* and it gets even *more* appalling. Unlike with a lot of people, the apocalypse didn't make him evil--he already was. Think you're right about the girl, too--the way she yelled for Ellie to die sounded almost like she was jealous of her. Maybe he'd already been hurting her, if only psychologically.
6:08 David is served a heaping plate for his portion of the “venison” meal while we can’t even see most people’s portions at the bottom of their bowls. So he absolutely uses food as an intentional way too control people. David most likely has been severely abusive and violent before, and then blamed the victims just as he does with Hannah.
I said this before in previous videos but I feel like the experience with David took what was left of Ellie's innocence, cause she's truly experienced all the evils of man and what they can be capable of.
@@madridforever933 I don’t think he’s meant to come across as scary, though, honestly. He’s supposed to appear very normal, and that’s one of his sources of manipulation.
This actor's portrayal was brilliant. Calming and chilling. Very devious. His death scene was gruesome but it was not difficult to withhold cheers for Ellie to keep hacking. Great vid. Thank you. 👍🏾
I really feel bad for the actor, Scott Shepherd, because he gets typecast as the deceptively creepy guy a lot, which to be fair he does a great job of because holy shit he had my skin crawling this episode
he is the most evil because he has a savior complex, he thinks he is supposed to save people even if they do not want to be saved by him, he ran into the wrong with with Ellie though
The acting is amazing because knowing how bad David is When you look at the series you can feel that dangerous vibe I can't believe the season is almost over!!
I found myself delighted by Joel's brutalization of the two dudes he was interrogating. I had to question myself, rooting for a character to pop another human's kneecap off. That's the beauty of the show - morally grey areas.
I have doubts with these things. If these two people were out to get you and they also know where a loved one was taken, are we supposed to feel bad about them? wasn't Joel's tactic ,particularly this one, basic self protection and trying to find Ellie? does it have to look like he regrets it and has remorse?
@@Elven. oh, I agree with you. I was totally cheering Joel on; a testament to the spot-on acting and directing. I'm a non-violent person - and don't particularly like violent scenes - but found myself happy (and almost experiencing a catharsis) during both Joel and Ellie's justified beatdowns.
I played both Last of Us Part 1 & 2 back to back, so I was quite surprised when I found the cannibal room. That feeling was fantastic and scary at the same time.
The creepy discoloured frozen faces of the "dinner guests" / "resort cult" members added to the whole.... skin crawling vibe this episode gave, it was great!
David has always stuck with me. I actually fast forwarded parts of the TV show ep because I didn't want to be reintroduced to his "humanity". But even knowing what he truly was and skipping in the ep, the impact of him unmasking to Ellie still just totally got to my core. Chilling.
you just said something that people should really take it by hear "David is scary with even without the infected" for me when Ep,5 came out with horde of infected it was a different kind of fear i felt with David. with him it is truly what happens when a dark turn happens to humanity
Anyone notice the continuity error when Ellie kicks the food bowl away and it slides and hits the butchers table, then next camera angle it's right at the cell gate again....
I found the finale with David (ie Ellie axing the ever living hell out of him) to be incredibly cathartic. David is an incredibly evil character for many reasons, but for whatever reason the food thing really stuck with me. Comparing the resort to Jackson, you can see the antithesis to what Joel said in his (granted oversimplified) explanation of the “before times” - some people didn’t want anyone to own anything and some people wanted to have it all. David, in his selfish quest for power and control, would rather live a miserable, eked out existence where he is on top and can do whatever he wants. Whatever abilities he may or may not have, he clearly did not have any business leading a self-sustaining community. I was really struck by the fact that the community had next to nothing stored to survive the winter (although I wasn’t clear how long they’d been there), and how David probably didn’t think it was in his best interest to offer them anything beyond near starvation. I’ve seen other folks suggest that David was lying about being a teacher, but I think your explanation is more likely. Having a “violent heart” does not necessarily mean acting out in a blatant way - most abusers act quietly and carefully, and that’s why they are not caught. If anything, him having a position of power over children makes perfect sense for his character’s motivations.
Yes, David Koresh was the leader of the Branch Davidians (an aberrant offshoot of the Seventh-day Adventist church) who gathered in Waco, Texas. He and his followers were besieged by the FBI because of accusations that he was marrying underage girls. The siege ended when his lieutenant, Stephen Schneider, killed Koresh and the compound was burned. It's inconclusive whether the Branch Davidians deliberately set the fire or whether the FBI accidentally did so. As you can see, Koresh's situation was considerably more complicated than David's was in The Last of Us.
I find it a shame how badly the show has been review bombed An average of 3/10 It's a shame when people let their personal beliefs overshadow the quality of a show, Great video as always :) x
@@maheshvir the site I watch it on has reviews out of 10 and says 3.0/10 out of 54,067 votes at present With each episode the reviews got worse and worse, I love the show so don't understand the issue, almost every comment on the site is homophobic, yet it's the same people complaining about each episode, so they clearly like it to be continuously watching it on release day x
What's funny to me is thinking about the aftermath of this destructive duo's interactions with these different societies, in that directly or indirectly, they are wiping out the fighting force of each community, leaving everyone else in the community kinda boned.
Id argue that the leaders of the fighting forces did it to themselves. Kathleen and David's group were the initial aggressors and both of them had several chances to let it go but they both chose to pursue Ellie/Joel and they are both probably wiped out now
tlou world's total disregard for children has been fascinating to watch. they're seen as burdens and not hope for humanity except in jackson. that's the most depressing part of this show for me, no one gives a shit about children. that's actually my issue in the real world too.
Can we just separate the plot and the appalling character from the brilliant and astonishing acting of both Scott Sheherd and Bella Ramsey who were just sublimely wonderful…I left this episode so shaken and so relieved but more aware that in this world there are so many who would do us harm…I spend my life believing the best in most but I’m not sure if I’m just an idiot. I’ll follow my philosophy as long as I can but im open to advice and warning. Love u all. Take care xx
Just as there are Davids in the world, there are Franks, as well. Keep your heart open, while also giving people enough time to demonstrate their true motivations. It's not about what they say; it's about what they do. Good luck and good life!
what @eme.261 says, but remember to trust your gut. It's there for a reason, if someone makes you uncomfortable or gives you any weird vibes, no use in being "polite" and having to stand around and listen to them. Just leave if you ever feel that way, it's important to not feel like you HAVE to be nice or polite to someone.
the equivelent of this is the walking dead the terminus cannibals. good guys when you look and talk to them but dont trust them or turn your back on them
I didn’t either but considering their whole group is starving it logically makes sense, the alternative is you know what. Might sound grim but that’s how it goes when there’s no food left.
I've a question: do the people in David's group know that they are all committing cannibalism? Or don't they, and assume that they are fed with venison?
@@kevinyeager9023 According to David who is a narcissist rapist cult leader. I wouldn't count on that. In the type of abusive systems described in the video there are many people aware who choose to do nothing.
I wondered if his character was an homage to David Koresh the cult leader in Waco Texas who took his followers away to a compound which burned down when it was stormed by authtorities killing dozens including David. Same thing happens here as Joel attacks the compound.
It was an insanely hard fumbling of the bag to make this character who had such promise and seeming manipulative charm & charisma suddenly out of nowhere switch from intelligent and subtlt menacing to "Let me just suddenly r@p3 this girl IN A BURNING BUILDING right next to the cleaver I saw her reach for and kicked her to stop her THAT IS STILL IN ARMS REACH" It's supposed to be this emotional climax and big moment for Ellie's "character" but as soon as he wasn't pulling down the curtain to put out the fire quickly all immersion for me was gone, and that sudden nonsense r@p3 decision was just the icing on the cake. You wanna explore that dark subject matter? Perfect, do it in ANY OTHER SCENE because here it just pulls you out and destroys any suspension of disbelief with how nonsensical it is. It was the television equivalent of the edgy kid in high school shouting out "R@P3" or the N word "randomly" to try and be shocking on purpose thinking he was funny but just being cringe.
David's vibe reminded me a lot and I mean A LOT of what it was like to grow up in the modern day evangelical/charismatic church. Because David's vibe reminds me a lot and I mean A LOT of the Youth Pastor vibe and it was always the youth pastor who told the prettiest youth group girl: "God told me you're meant to be my wife when you turn 18, but don't tell anyone okay?" That is David's vibe, 100%
I honestly don't think there was anyone siding with David. Sure he ran a town full of families with kids and they seemed more or less functional I don't think they realize they're eating people, David provides and no one questions it, a parody of Jim Jones, David koresh, they were charming leaders who started off as a savior figure with their head on straight and it just devolved like every cult does.
I would like to think that Hannah is actually David’s daughter to come to that conclusion because of the way, Hannah’s mom looked at David whenever he said that he was her father instead. I also feel that way since he prays on young girls.
I really wish he would have turned and his congregation had to be the ones who took him out. Ellie did that 🤬ish this episode. I don’t know how she is going to come back from this. Excellent episode.
Ehh maybe it’s just me but the actor’s performance was just ok. Maybe it was the way it was written. I feel like more could’ve been done and said for him to feel more creepy
As much as I enjoy the show, want thing I hate about shows and movies is they always use the Christian characters as crazy/psycho people. Never see other beliefs within the bad character. Always regarding cults. With this, wouldn't viewers judge God and actual Christians as bad when these characters are the opposite of what a real believer is suppose to be. Speaks volumes, alright.
Well, Christianity is the most popular religion in the United States, extreme versions of the religion in the country isn't uncommon. It makes sense that cults in American media are typically based on Christianity. Not me hating on innocent people's religion, I'm Catholic, just stating some reasons
@@elongatedmanforever1252 oh yes I agree, but when you consider HOW many cults use christianity, just saying that some writers probably have experiences with these fringe groups than say Islam for example. Other countries movies and shows have cults based on their popular religions as well, like I'd say a cult based on Islam in Saudi Arabia would make sense. Not to argue with the original point tho
Because it’s only hinted upon and Joel did things as bad as David when he was with Tommy in the beginning of the outbreak, read up on the background story.
I am a religious man. But I refuse to leave my bullshit meter and you’re not be on my question thoughts at the door. That’s why today I don’t belong to any place of worship…
After Sarah dies in the beginning Joel and Tommy do bad things like raiders do but nobody ever calls Joel out on that stuff, David doesn’t get a free pass because we aren’t familiar with his side of the story
I agree that we disregard a considerable portion of what Joel has shown to have become. They quite literally skip over 20 years of his monstrous offenses. Not certain that if the viewer spent any more time with David that it would, in any way whatsoever, help him gain collective sympathy.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 It isn't "for no reason." The reason David is evil is because some people are naturally vile. The only reason some individuals stay somewhat on the track is because of societal pressures. Once society crumbles you would see their true nature.
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He is the most vile piece of filth for the rape attempt we saw, much less the cannibalism he forced on others and the abuse.
Even though a HUGE majority of us already knew what was gonna go down, it still felt creepy and gut wrenching to watch, the way the actor carried himself, the slow and sweet pacing all around builds up to the revealing and David’s true character.
Bro I'm a huge fan but did you change up your speech pattern? Every sentence starting pretty low tone middle is high and then ends shortly in a lower tone, similar number of syllables, have you always written/read your lines like that?? It's messing me up listening now
Any chance somebody would recap Dean Winchester's re -appearance on the screen? He killed Hitler after all!
"Things like Clickers and Bloaters don't exist in our world, but people like David do."
Very well said, man. And it's absolutely bone-chilling, because it's true. There are Davids everywhere, hiding in plain sight.
Especially in business, it took me pursuing business to meet those sociopathic types of people.
@@MosesMatsepane What’s the “business” you’re referring to exactly? We’re surrounded by business and businesses so mind your business. Haha.
@@AussBosss no
Like the government
@@AussBosss You will never meet them at work, you only meet them at high stakes and high reward types of business settings. Places where you could get away with a lot of rule-bending/breaking. I had never met them anywhere else before, their true nature only manifests under a specific set of circumstances. They hide really well in plain sight.
David def gave me the creeps, even knowing what was going to happen. The show's actor totally sold it... My skin was crawling
But he should have put up more fight. He does some shouting bark some orders but didn't do much.
Yeah, the dude creeped the hell out of me and I’m 19. I got to find the name of the actor, he was really good.
@@DougieYT Same and I am considerably older than that, lol
Scott Shepherd is the actors name, he was def a great villain… he did an amazing job
The actor Scott Shepherd was in El Camino. Not sure why he’s not in more movies/shows…he’s seriously awesome
One thing I havent seen anyone comment on, despite seeming kinda obvious, is the quantity of food he gets for himself in comparison with the others. With it being the girl's father, it makes it even more creepy, it's like he's commemorating his kill
He developed a taste for human flesh. I think the people know it because it doesn't taste like chicken or beef or deer.
Ohhhhh, I did notice this on the second watch through....good spot
I don’t think that he’s commemorating it necessarily, because it wasn’t “his kill.” The girl’s dad was the man that Joel killed in ep 6. If that’s him that they’re eating, that is.
came to say basically the same thing
yeah, i thought they showed how the less "useful" people had basically just a splash of sauce while david had a full plate.
While watching it, I said out loud to my friend, "Well, he certainly got the Lion's Share!" I think his larger portion came from his being in charge.
I was glad they hammered home with David, and didn’t water him down, His overall character and presence was a defining moment in the character of Ellie and her overall story arc.
Not really he wasnt mentioned
That much in tlous2.
I get that people are a bit upset/disappointed that there are not many zombie scenes in a show about zombies. But I think they want to focus in on how people are the real monsters, the zombies are just there to push people into situations were their true nature comes out.
i mean, it's the last of us, not the last of them
they did show that the cordyzombs generally stay where they are unless they're disturbed or triggered, and after 20yrs, if people didn't learn how to ignore/avoid them, that's less realistic?
Last of Us was never about zombies. It's about humans always having been the greatest threat.
very observant
@@mattmeyer6186 this is not the walking dead
@@yeeyee1690 No shit.
He also pulls a very classic grooming predator move that older people use on teenagers where they basically praise them and tell them things like they're smarter or more mature or whatever than everyone else their age. They try to make their target think that they're equals at a time when you're really still a kid but you desperately want to be taken more seriously and start thinking of yourself as a young adult.
And I definitely think that girl David slapped was his initial target, she's the only person in the crowd we see who speak up at all, even her mother doesn't. Which makes me think he was grooming her already and making her think she's special to him in some way. But when he saw Ellie he changed his mind and her privileged position was taken away.
Great insight
You're right, but that's extra disturbing, because that's the kind of thing any good teacher/mentor/relative might say to a bullied or precocious kid, hoping to empower them and make them feel more able to stand up to others. The idea of people using encouraging words like that as a tool for evil is just so awful. Then you remember David *was a teacher* and it gets even *more* appalling. Unlike with a lot of people, the apocalypse didn't make him evil--he already was.
Think you're right about the girl, too--the way she yelled for Ellie to die sounded almost like she was jealous of her. Maybe he'd already been hurting her, if only psychologically.
6:08 David is served a heaping plate for his portion of the “venison” meal while we can’t even see most people’s portions at the bottom of their bowls. So he absolutely uses food as an intentional way too control people. David most likely has been severely abusive and violent before, and then blamed the victims just as he does with Hannah.
I said this before in previous videos but I feel like the experience with David took what was left of Ellie's innocence, cause she's truly experienced all the evils of man and what they can be capable of.
I think another important point about "David" in our world is that they are often in law enforcement too.
True but its not just there its
in everyone.
The actor playing David really did an amazing job portraying him. He couldn't have come off as any more creepy and evil.
yet gamers complained..🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
A little too good
@@Beanbag1 lmaoo
Why does david do the stuff
Hes doing though??
@@jazzyjez
Me too.
I agree someone like David exist irl. Which gives me chills since now I am aware there is always a David around us..
That's exactly what a David would say...
@@flyingfrog7847 say what ?
I liked the game's David more. He was scarier with his voice and face. This was pretty much a Bill Burr clone and not scary at all.
@@madridforever933 Bill Burr is def a serial killer tho.
@@madridforever933 I don’t think he’s meant to come across as scary, though, honestly. He’s supposed to appear very normal, and that’s one of his sources of manipulation.
I noticed how big a bowl of dinner he had when he came back from the hunt compared to everyone else....
This actor's portrayal was brilliant. Calming and chilling. Very devious. His death scene was gruesome but it was not difficult to withhold cheers for Ellie to keep hacking. Great vid. Thank you. 👍🏾
Ellie isn't gullible or naive, i love her as the character she is. She is so smart.
"She is so smart." David???
I really feel bad for the actor, Scott Shepherd, because he gets typecast as the deceptively creepy guy a lot, which to be fair he does a great job of because holy shit he had my skin crawling this episode
he is the most evil because he has a savior complex, he thinks he is supposed to save people even if they do not want to be saved by him, he ran into the wrong with with Ellie though
He thinks himself a Messiah. He tells Ellie he's the chosen one.
The acting is amazing because knowing how bad David is
When you look at the series you can feel that dangerous vibe
I can't believe the season is almost over!!
All the acting has been great with this show
I found myself delighted by Joel's brutalization of the two dudes he was interrogating. I had to question myself, rooting for a character to pop another human's kneecap off. That's the beauty of the show - morally grey areas.
I have doubts with these things. If these two people were out to get you and they also know where a loved one was taken, are we supposed to feel bad about them? wasn't Joel's tactic ,particularly this one, basic self protection and trying to find Ellie? does it have to look like he regrets it and has remorse?
@@Elven. oh, I agree with you. I was totally cheering Joel on; a testament to the spot-on acting and directing. I'm a non-violent person - and don't particularly like violent scenes - but found myself happy (and almost experiencing a catharsis) during both Joel and Ellie's justified beatdowns.
What I loved the most was how I kept expecting Joel to save her from David and was surprised at what really happened. Pleasingly off formula.
I played both Last of Us Part 1 & 2 back to back, so I was quite surprised when I found the cannibal room. That feeling was fantastic and scary at the same time.
It’s great to see Lady Mormont of Bear Island hacking away again🙌🏽 gréât job little cub 🐻
“Everything happens for a reason” ~David
Bella Ramsey is next level. She needs an award for that performance.
Also you can notice that when food is so scarce, he get the biggest potion.
Davids Actor was absolutely awesome! He creept me Out so much! Well casted, really.... And Bella was aß great!
And of course i Loved Troy having such a 'big' Part. My heart Jumped xD
He’s like a more realistic version of Negan from TWD.
The creepy discoloured frozen faces of the "dinner guests" / "resort cult" members added to the whole.... skin crawling vibe this episode gave, it was great!
David is one of the most evil characters ever and Nolan And Scott killed it.
I definitely lost sleep after this episode. Thanks for the breakdown.
Lol I am still looking for the whole episode 8 breakdown! At this point I am totally blaming Paul’s move! 😂
sorry mate, video was online and then HBO blocked it for about 5 hours, should be back up now
@@heavyspoilers what mate
@@heavyspoilers 💗👍🏼 how much more money does HBO want ?! Unbelievable! Thank u for the amazing work and putting up with the unappreciative system!
David has always stuck with me. I actually fast forwarded parts of the TV show ep because I didn't want to be reintroduced to his "humanity". But even knowing what he truly was and skipping in the ep, the impact of him unmasking to Ellie still just totally got to my core. Chilling.
I’ve known a David in real life. Last time I heard, he was no longer here on Earth.
you just said something that people should really take it by hear "David is scary with even without the infected" for me when Ep,5 came out with horde of infected it was a different kind of fear i felt with David. with him it is truly what happens when a dark turn happens to humanity
Anyone notice the continuity error when Ellie kicks the food bowl away and it slides and hits the butchers table, then next camera angle it's right at the cell gate again....
Lol at the cut to south park "we dont like your kind around here" scene
I forgot to say: I love all your TLOU content. I watch every video. Thanks for keeping me entertained 🤜🏾🤛🏾
The part showing him covering the HE on the banner was a chilling shot by the camera team
I live in Minnesota and in Winter YES the ground freeze you will even break heavy equipment. So that part is and could be true...
I found the finale with David (ie Ellie axing the ever living hell out of him) to be incredibly cathartic.
David is an incredibly evil character for many reasons, but for whatever reason the food thing really stuck with me. Comparing the resort to Jackson, you can see the antithesis to what Joel said in his (granted oversimplified) explanation of the “before times” - some people didn’t want anyone to own anything and some people wanted to have it all. David, in his selfish quest for power and control, would rather live a miserable, eked out existence where he is on top and can do whatever he wants. Whatever abilities he may or may not have, he clearly did not have any business leading a self-sustaining community. I was really struck by the fact that the community had next to nothing stored to survive the winter (although I wasn’t clear how long they’d been there), and how David probably didn’t think it was in his best interest to offer them anything beyond near starvation. I’ve seen other folks suggest that David was lying about being a teacher, but I think your explanation is more likely. Having a “violent heart” does not necessarily mean acting out in a blatant way - most abusers act quietly and carefully, and that’s why they are not caught. If anything, him having a position of power over children makes perfect sense for his character’s motivations.
most abusers are victims
Themselves too.
Silver Lake gave me Waco vibes.😖 Wasn’t the leader of that named David too? Is that just a coincidence? 👀
Yes, David Koresh was the leader of the Branch Davidians (an aberrant offshoot of the Seventh-day Adventist church) who gathered in Waco, Texas. He and his followers were besieged by the FBI because of accusations that he was marrying underage girls. The siege ended when his lieutenant, Stephen Schneider, killed Koresh and the compound was burned. It's inconclusive whether the Branch Davidians deliberately set the fire or whether the FBI accidentally did so. As you can see, Koresh's situation was considerably more complicated than David's was in The Last of Us.
Most villains have a origin story such as “oh these people killed my wife so now im evil” this guy was a creep even before the outbreak
Thats lame & the show made it
Worse.
I find it a shame how badly the show has been review bombed
An average of 3/10
It's a shame when people let their personal beliefs overshadow the quality of a show,
Great video as always :) x
What do you mean? This show has 9.1 on IMDb and this episode has 9.5.
@@maheshvir the site I watch it on has reviews out of 10 and says 3.0/10 out of 54,067 votes at present
With each episode the reviews got worse and worse,
I love the show so don't understand the issue, almost every comment on the site is homophobic, yet it's the same people complaining about each episode, so they clearly like it to be continuously watching it on release day x
@@DerrisDerrison It's probably reviewed by a bunch of self-righteous assholes who think they know what is best for entertainment of others.
The show's been lackluster so far. This was my favorite ep yet. But I am sure the show will get worse as the seasons go on
@@DerrisDerrison
I disagree not every comment
is homophobic.
What's funny to me is thinking about the aftermath of this destructive duo's interactions with these different societies, in that directly or indirectly, they are wiping out the fighting force of each community, leaving everyone else in the community kinda boned.
Id argue that the leaders of the fighting forces did it to themselves. Kathleen and David's group were the initial aggressors and both of them had several chances to let it go but they both chose to pursue Ellie/Joel and they are both probably wiped out now
tlou world's total disregard for children has been fascinating to watch. they're seen as burdens and not hope for humanity except in jackson. that's the most depressing part of this show for me, no one gives a shit about children. that's actually my issue in the real world too.
Can we just separate the plot and the appalling character from the brilliant and astonishing acting of both Scott Sheherd and Bella Ramsey who were just sublimely wonderful…I left this episode so shaken and so relieved but more aware that in this world there are so many who would do us harm…I spend my life believing the best in most but I’m not sure if I’m just an idiot. I’ll follow my philosophy as long as I can but im open to advice and warning. Love u all. Take care xx
Just as there are Davids in the world, there are Franks, as well. Keep your heart open, while also giving people enough time to demonstrate their true motivations. It's not about what they say; it's about what they do.
Good luck and good life!
@@eme.261 thanks Em…people like you who keep my optimistic view of life in place x
what @eme.261 says, but remember to trust your gut. It's there for a reason, if someone makes you uncomfortable or gives you any weird vibes, no use in being "polite" and having to stand around and listen to them. Just leave if you ever feel that way, it's important to not feel like you HAVE to be nice or polite to someone.
@@whereverismia well you should be politite if youre
Feeling like someone is
Crossing the line thats
a different story
“It’s possible there’s another layer to this”
Congratulations you figured out what was going on
We've seen a version of all of this in "The Walking Dead."
Need to get a last of us playlist going, didn’t see one already made.
Thanks for the info
the equivelent of this is the walking dead the terminus cannibals. good guys when you look and talk to them but dont trust them or turn your back on them
Bro how did they make his character SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE 😭
I didn’t even think about that. David definitely served her father, for dinner
Great, great, GREAT episode
I didn’t either but considering their whole group is starving it logically makes sense, the alternative is you know what. Might sound grim but that’s how it goes when there’s no food left.
I've a question: do the people in David's group know that they are all committing cannibalism? Or don't they, and assume that they are fed with venison?
Some don't know but others do and cover it up. This is the ecosystem of abuse...
Only a couple know.
@@kevinyeager9023 According to David who is a narcissist rapist cult leader. I wouldn't count on that. In the type of abusive systems described in the video there are many people aware who choose to do nothing.
A lot of those type of people are in law enforcement..
They are in every facet of life & person regardless of position
Or gender.
When ellie is looking at the birds it looks like something is in the garage behind her
Such a good episode. Gave me all I wanted from it and more! Sad it's over soon!
Also I feel like the others wanted to kill her to spare her from David.
I wondered if his character was an homage to David Koresh the cult leader in Waco Texas who took his followers away to a compound which burned down when it was stormed by authtorities killing dozens including David. Same thing happens here as Joel attacks the compound.
Just started replaying and seein David already in the show suprised me
I have seen some sick teachers.
I waffled while I watched... I was like... don't trust this guy... then I was like... oh he seems like an honest guy... and then... da fuck bruh.
He’s Keith Reinere.
It was an insanely hard fumbling of the bag to make this character who had such promise and seeming manipulative charm & charisma suddenly out of nowhere switch from intelligent and subtlt menacing to "Let me just suddenly r@p3 this girl IN A BURNING BUILDING right next to the cleaver I saw her reach for and kicked her to stop her THAT IS STILL IN ARMS REACH"
It's supposed to be this emotional climax and big moment for Ellie's "character" but as soon as he wasn't pulling down the curtain to put out the fire quickly all immersion for me was gone, and that sudden nonsense r@p3 decision was just the icing on the cake. You wanna explore that dark subject matter? Perfect, do it in ANY OTHER SCENE because here it just pulls you out and destroys any suspension of disbelief with how nonsensical it is.
It was the television equivalent of the edgy kid in high school shouting out "R@P3" or the N word "randomly" to try and be shocking on purpose thinking he was funny but just being cringe.
I like how the writers let Ellie take him out in pieces. Even though we didn’t see it she hacked away.
I loved how intense it was and Ellie's war cry
@@indigoab4327 id have cared if this guy was introduced sooner and maybe got 3 eps with im in it
Wait a minute, the girl's dad was killed by Joel at the university, no?
David's vibe reminded me a lot and I mean A LOT of what it was like to grow up in the modern day evangelical/charismatic church.
Because David's vibe reminds me a lot and I mean A LOT of the Youth Pastor vibe and it was always the youth pastor who told the prettiest youth group girl: "God told me you're meant to be my wife when you turn 18, but don't tell anyone okay?" That is David's vibe, 100%
So hes a less interesting frollo??
Religion in America is so weird
Ramsey can act.
5:51 R-Kelly did it 😂
Cult leaders in dystopian stories always confuse me cause like if I was there I'd already have nothing to lose so i'd start blasting 🤷
I would have liked Troy Baker to play David just for a nice twist.
I feel like David’s full name should be triple D, David Donner Dahmer .. but that might have been too on the nose
You don’t think David simply just said he was a teacher to give Ellie a false sense of security?
i saw the thumbnail and went “gee i wonder if maybe it’s because he literally EATS PEOPLE AND TRIED TO R4P3 THE MAIN CHARACTER”
I honestly don't think there was anyone siding with David. Sure he ran a town full of families with kids and they seemed more or less functional
I don't think they realize they're eating people, David provides and no one questions it, a parody of Jim Jones, David koresh, they were charming leaders who started off as a savior figure with their head on straight and it just devolved like every cult does.
So......any complaints about how the actor looks nothing like the game's character?
I would like to think that Hannah is actually David’s daughter to come to that conclusion because of the way, Hannah’s mom looked at David whenever he said that he was her father instead. I also feel that way since he prays on young girls.
Why does he do any of what
He does??
The irony is that by killing David, his followers are sure to die from starvation.
I would use the word Diabolical to describe him. 😅😅 Super creepy.
I really wish he would have turned and his congregation had to be the ones who took him out. Ellie did that 🤬ish this episode. I don’t know how she is going to come back from this. Excellent episode.
David get what he deserve
He actually convinced me a lil bit
He only eat people that die?
We don’t know if it’s true if he was a teacher.
Ehh maybe it’s just me but the actor’s performance was just ok. Maybe it was the way it was written. I feel like more could’ve been done and said for him to feel more creepy
Nice ad placement, I’m not trusting Best Angus Beef AT ALL.🤮
Yeah David is just the ultimate I can’t wait to you get yours bad guy 😊
Idk he seems like a pretty sweet guy.
As much as I enjoy the show, want thing I hate about shows and movies is they always use the Christian characters as crazy/psycho people. Never see other beliefs within the bad character. Always regarding cults. With this, wouldn't viewers judge God and actual Christians as bad when these characters are the opposite of what a real believer is suppose to be. Speaks volumes, alright.
Well, Christianity is the most popular religion in the United States, extreme versions of the religion in the country isn't uncommon. It makes sense that cults in American media are typically based on Christianity. Not me hating on innocent people's religion, I'm Catholic, just stating some reasons
@@sergiolozano3789
The problem is when they
Only use christianity.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 oh yes I agree, but when you consider HOW many cults use christianity, just saying that some writers probably have experiences with these fringe groups than say Islam for example. Other countries movies and shows have cults based on their popular religions as well, like I'd say a cult based on Islam in Saudi Arabia would make sense. Not to argue with the original point tho
A person who was about to r word 14 year old how you all even think he was good in any aspect
Because it’s only hinted upon and Joel did things as bad as David when he was with Tommy in the beginning of the outbreak, read up on the background story.
We hate David because he’s the new guy we don’t know, we love Joel because we’ve been with him for so long and we ignore his massive flaws.
He never did though.
I'm sorry but there's no way you slapping my kid and I don't come for you! 🤷🏽♀️
Nice
I am a religious man. But I refuse to leave my bullshit meter and you’re not be on my question thoughts at the door. That’s why today I don’t belong to any place of worship…
I'm thinking of a word, nonce....It's not right what he's doing in there :D
Evil? Sure. Most evil? I think absolutely not. If anything he has a lot of equals at the least in context of how abusive and manipulative he has been
thats too bad to hear this. the walking dead had endless evil characters through out the comic and shows arc.
Building a theocratic system controling people... sounds familiar
After Sarah dies in the beginning Joel and Tommy do bad things like raiders do but nobody ever calls Joel out on that stuff, David doesn’t get a free pass because we aren’t familiar with his side of the story
I agree that we disregard a considerable portion of what Joel has shown to have become. They quite literally skip over 20 years of his monstrous offenses.
Not certain that if the viewer spent any more time with David that it would, in any way whatsoever, help him gain collective sympathy.
Yeah, that's the problem. We don't see what Joel and Tommy did all those years. We can't call someone out on what we haven't seen.
I also hate how they make david just pure evil &
Bad for no reason.
@@solesoulsorrow
If they wrote him a backstory
not even like a tragic backstory
But explain why he is the leader & why he became
a cannibal.
@@elongatedmanforever1252
It isn't "for no reason."
The reason David is evil is because some people are naturally vile. The only reason some individuals stay somewhat on the track is because of societal pressures.
Once society crumbles you would see their true nature.
Beccahhhhhh? Or Daviiiddddd ?
i dont think david is a character just a devil
Like character to
embody all evil
Of humanity which
Could be good but
imo it felt flat
For me.