US Open: Post Race Thoughts
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What I really like about Lionel is that he's all over the place. It seems like every few months he's figured it out and has a new approach to address all of his issues. I think bringing in the experts was the plan for a few months 3 years ago. Then it was something else. Then it was about getting the best coach. Then it was about self-coaching. He reminds me of me and so many other age group athletes. We're always searching for the answers. He feels like "one of us" just 10x better. So many of the pros don't let any of the insecurities show and keep the image up that they have everything figured out. Lionel just shows you what is going on in his head and it's really raw. I think most of us can relate to that.
I was thinking the same thing, he has my age grouper mentality but he’s gifted with a crazy engine that keeps him up in the mix.
He doesn’t belive in any process. He gives one shoot. One race and he got all this answers why is he not that good. 4 or 5 years ago I wrote a comment that he need to look what Lange was doing with first 3D cockpit! He was working with F1 team and canyon. Still to this day Lionel has worst tt bike, nothing on his bike is special custom made. He is absolutly very very far way from for him best position on the bike. Look Iden numbers on tt bike what watts is he putting and what average speed is he doing! For me it is very funny that every three months he is having new big idea. With swim Lionel you need to do one per week open water lond swim! Of course you need to go to Germany and do a lots of bike testing!
1. He needs a sports psychologist IMO as a loving fan.
2. I just don’t think he has the same hunger being a dad and having other life priorities to train and eat the way being at the top requires.
@@davidkaplan5517 training is a lot harder if you’ve convinced yourself you’re not going to win. Him and Sam need to keep training together and build and grow together. Building a smart team around them.
I think him hanging out with douche bags like Talbot Cox didn’t help his career either. Talbot is like that counselor that just wants to keep getting paid.
Never sticks with one strategy for long enough for it to work! Constantly changing strategy and going around in circles!! Its just bizarre. All the same, Love your determination and grit! :-)
very very true. one bad decision after another. Racing in training and having no plan whatsoever longer than 3 months.Still he is by far my favourite athlete
Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed myself that he has yet again had one disappointing race and has already moved onto another idea that doesn't sound promising. Not sure how he hasn't caught onto his commitment issues being the real issue.
I still feel like he's far too negative about his performances and training all the time. I'm a huge fan of his, but he never settles into a routine and sticks with it longer than a month it seems. He's amazing. There is no doubt, but I really think half his issues are between his ears and overthinking.
Mate ur probably the most inspirational triathletes that has ever been. Ur legacy will be timeless. U have changed many life’s for the better, big shout out to Talbot for his documentary/ filming skills throughout the years have been so freaking good.
God bless you u both
This is the flavour of this month. Efficiency. Let’s see whats next in September.
Undoubtedly
Lmao
even with a great engine….you have to know how to operate it! more changes (again) to come…”efficiency” is the new key word
Sir, do not look right or left. Focus on improving things you can control: sleep, nutrition and recovery in general. Training is spot on. Be more cautious about your tapering and enter each race like it is your last - fresh and ready to put massive power output on the bike and on the run. To adress your efficiency - you would have to be in wind tunnel almost every month or so depending on changing the circumstances which you quiet frankly can not control. And nobody can.
The question is, why Frodo is the GOAT. He is, in my opinion, because he is staying consistent with what he is doing and how he is doing it. One thing I would consider is try to listen more to some swim coach and trust him. Hope it helps.
You train hard as hell. You started eating better and you are seeing improvement. I really think that you need to allow yourself to recover appropriately, especially as you are now 35...sure, wind tunnel may indeed help you too. Some people mentioned open water swimming, I agree that would probably be very beneficial too. Looking at the results, you were 11th and about 5 minutes off of probably the goat of triathlon.. and you just had a solid win within the last few weeks. Maybe you just were a little off at this race, or a little fried... recovery is huge..best of luck
well said.
The top guys like Jan, Magnus, Gustav and Kristian are all proactive in getting the most efficient in the science. Seems like Lionel is always reactive, thus always 1 step behind. Let’s get it done!
Suffers from ENS.... Eternal newbie syndrome
I'm starting to think he has some kind of self sabotaging mental issue that kicks in if he hasn't won something after just 1 block of training.
There's just levels to the sport. Simple.
The "open water swim." Tim Don would always speak to the advantages of having key sessions every week in the lake.
Data points in the pool are limited.
As a pro, I would have thought you would be doing wind tunnel like 10 years ago…
No shit right? Seems like a pretty lame excuse.
You are close Lionel, did not loose much time on bike and run, so the swim should be a priority in my opinion! As an ex competitive swimmer, I can tell that swimming is just about technique. Technique at every session, and tons of it, and always think about how you are swimming while doing a hard set. If the answer is poorly, then stop the set and do some basic drills to find again the feel for the water, and then restart the set. Always be accountable during the session, and train (if you can) open water swimming. It is totally different than pool swimming and helps a lot with getting that feel for the water that swimmers have. Keep up with the great and inspiring content!
Great comment. His big weakness is the swim. That's where he lost the most time. Just needs to really dial in on technique and more open water swimming with people that are better than him.
Don’t underestimate the impact of being a dad. It takes a good 20% off the top of the deck and that’s when you’re well supported. It’s a tough transition.
Always honest and raw. Thank you Lionel
Reminds me of something Victor Plata said to me: Hang up the bike / run for a year and just swim (I was a terrible swimmer). Obviously not applicable to do that for your situation, but I always regretted not doing that while trying to get better in triathlon. If 6 months are dedicate to form and efficiency upgrades it might lead to better last years of racing. Who knows though; either way, always rooting for you and very appreciative of you sharing the journey.
Huge Lionel fan here. Read through most of the comments here. Some of it is hard criticisms and some of it hard truths. As someone who is looking at this from the very highest level; his swim cost him a top 5 to top 10 spot in this race or better. The race was done before it really began for him. You can't convince me that wouldn't demoralize a guy of his caliber to be 4+ minutes back after the swim. If he comes out even with Sam Long, it changes his entire day. And we may never see this video. Why? Before this, he said a top 10 performance would be A++. But now that he finished 11, he has to dig deep for marginal gains. I do agree doing the wind tunnel seems obvious and he should've done this ages ago. But the best course of action would be to continue on (and IMPROVING) his nutrition (tons of bananas and chocolate milks can be improved, imo), his recovery (which he stressed for like 3 straight videos) and here's the big one; he needs to shift his focus to open water swimming and figure out a way to improve his efficiency there. Whether it's finding the right coach or training partners (I still believe training with Sam is a great thing), find a way to not be 4+ minutes behind on the swim against the best! No matter what you do with the bike & run won't matter if you can't fix that. Point blank.
next post race.... I have given up the team approach and will try the self coach and just work on building more power...
Thanks for the honesty! Years ago when I asked a coach how to improve my run, “die and come back a Kenyan” was the answer he gave me😂……. I’m a Clydesdale btw.
Lionel’s future is not coaching. It is TV commentator. He can easily engage and provide color for ANY sport. Ditch Canada and start working with US sports media now
Get a coach, follow the plan, have A and B races planned, work as a team, put in the work, clean up your diet, stay consistent and believe in the plan. Enough with all the excuses and flavor of the week each time you have a bad race.
Glad to see Lionel realizing he needs to optimize every last detail to be competitive and that triathlon not simply grit and hard work. I just hope the mental burden of this journey doesn't hold him back, as it has in past. But the again he is primarily a TH-camr, so maybe he exaggerates the drama for the views, who knows.
Man and I thought you were taking regular swim lessons with Aqua Bears. I believe if you had listened to Jerry and relearned your swim 5-6 years ago you'd possibly a world champ right now. You're so motivating and so frustrating to listen to at the same time.
Jan is 41 years old. Lionel is 35 years old. There is still LOTS of time to improve those efficiencies!
Jan is a huge exception. He was better 2, 3, 4 years ago. He is that good, that he is still in the mix, despite the age.
Most good guys fall off with 36-38 when they are still good but won't win the big races anymore. Countless examples for long course racing.
In the middle distance I guess it's even worse.
That's why I think Lionel has no more time. Now or never. His power will fall off soon or the injuries will come because the body had so much training for many years that it says no.. recovery times are going up from 30+
Look at Alistair, look at Gomez, they haven't won big races for years and are younger than Jan .
Which Kona champion in the last 10, 15 years is around 38 or older besides Jan won Kona 2019 with 38?
I love Lionel but the party is almost over.
He looks 45
@@onepunchbud1472 I would agree. And i would add: It also depends on the coaching style. Anne Haug is also very good despite her age. Same will be in 10-15 years with Fred Funk, because Dan (coach of all the three) lets him increase the training load very slowly over the years.
@@onepunchbud1472 I agree, 100%. Lionel swim is not going to improve any further. He will continue to win some 70.3’s, but will not be a top three contender in any major 70.3 championship. I love Lionel’s tenacity, but Jan is a completely different breed-much more cerebral
One is an Olympic champ. One wouldn't ever make the Olympics. Big difference
I've watched every video Lionel has posted in the last 2.5 years. I've always stood up for him when people say he bounces from one thing to the next or that he's all washed up. This is the first time I've ever really felt like they might be right. He really seems desperate. He can't seem to make a plan and stick to it long enough for it to have any substantial effect. I don't even think the issue is his age as some have suggested. I think his issue is psychological. 1. He clearly has some issues with commitment and 2. He seems to believe that if he isn't the best in the world that there is something wrong with his training, and so instead of focusing on progress he is focused on finding the one fix that will make him the best in the world by next month. There is no fix that will do that.
It's getting hard to watch.
Same thought. Can't take him seriously anymore :(
It’s not “all over the place,” he’s peeling the onion. Going deeper on layers. It’s what it takes to be the best and he happens to share it with us. You’re missing the point. - Brian
@@Triathlon. It's not "what it takes to be the best" lol that is very laughable as his commitment issues more than likely are the reason he isn't among the best. He doesn't stick to any of his ideas long enough for any considerable outcome to be measured. He literally tries something new until he has a race where 3+ people finish in front of him and then he gets mad and moves on to the next stupid idea. Over the last 2.5 years he's tried about everything under the sun and hasn't stuck to a damn thing much longer than 8 weeks - not enough time to make a significant adaptation. The most recent one was his diet and recovery, which I thought really made sense as it ties directly into a lot of the other problems he's been talking about. He worked on that all of about 2 months before he went to the US Open where there was a stacked field causing him to finish further back than he did at IM Boulder and Oregon lol (what'd he expect). Instead of looking for signs of progress, he threw his usual temper tantrum, abandon his plan and now he's on to the most absurd and ridiculous idea yet: "inefficiencies." He's gonna go to the fucking wind tunnel thinking it's gonna make him the best in the world and when it doesn't do it in a month, he'll move on to an even more ridiculous idea.
If you put Lionel in a box and forced him to commit to the same strategy for months and years on end he would have completely quit a long time ago. Being able to change things up and focus on new strategies is what gives him motivation.
right but people forgot that Lionel cannot really beat Jan. It is not possible for him scientifically. One more important thing is that Lionel started doing sports in 2oo9 while others started from a very young age.
Please work with Brenton Ford from Effortless Swimming
plus one!
thanks for giving us things to think about as we consider our own training!
Can someone compile a list of Lionels solutions? pretty sure he already hit efficiency after Copenhagen 2nd to Wurf. Went to the velodrome found fast equipment then over the next couple years has progressively given himself worse helmets, trisuits, positions without testing them.
Unfortunately the biggest issue for Lionel is his swim. No amount of aero gains etc. will help when you coming out the water 4mins plus back.
I know Lionel is working hard on his swim but this is where I think he needs to really focus on if he wants to be at the front end again. Maybe he will never reach front pack swim but he needs to be coming out with the likes of Sam Long and then working his way up on the bike to give him a chance on the run.
Swimming is so technique focused that no matter how big his "engine" is, technique will always win. This is where in my opinion the most gains will come. This is where he needs to focus his energy on.
Go to Germany for testing and get the speed gains baby!! It's a beautiful country, you know... 🙂 Hope to see your swim improve soon as well! We're rooting for you, man!
Happy to give you a lift to Canyon HQ if you land in Frankfurt 😊
We want to see you taking it to the next level 👍
So glad to hear you’re connecting with professionals to improve the technicals of your swim!!
As a fan of yours, I appreciate you sharing your journey. You bring us along and do nothing but bring positivity to the sport of triathlon and shine on others with your platforms. Of course, putting yourself out there enables all of the arm chair quarterbacks who aren’t pro athletes giving advice or speaking negatively about your approach. As I’m sure you do, block out the noise. Keep doing your best. The rest is just noise.
Super accurate. Tri is really turning into F1. Great observation!
WILL HE EVER CONSIDER THE FIRST PROBLEM: YOU WON'T GET IT WITHOUT DOING OPEN WATER TRAINING | (how can he be so blind about it after so many years).
thanks for sharing and being so honest about how you feel! you are a true inspiration!
Thank you for this video. Lionel, I believe you have already won! You have love and support from your family, get to race with your mom on occasions and your dad is cool af! You have an amazing wife, healthy son and you continue to inspire me everyday. No Limits 👊
No Limits Lionel! Already exited to see you racing on Sunday!!! Funny Side fact: Fred Funk just "found" 5 watts by putting a regular bottle in his suit (no camelback needed!) 😅 Good luck man! You are a great athlet and a big inspiration!
You will look back at the races and think how amazing you did, the analysis helps your viewers and to get your head back into training.
Individual time trials on each discipline hitting the top times is important and to put the pressure on back to back training days 2 days per week.
Your there able to race the best how amazing. Don't beat yourself up. love watching the journey. keep up the good work.
Great Job Lionel.. Love to see you race. I agree with you on your analysis, You have a super strong engine , a strong ass bike and super solid fast runner . Your still a fast swimmer but not at efficient as the front group for sure. Keep a positive attitude and work on your swimming efficiency and feel for the water. I know you will figure the swim out just stick with it, I now you don't give up! good luck Lionel and im looking forward to seeing you kick ass on the swim and swim in the FRONT PACK!
in the last video he said he has to acknowledge hes not in top form and a Top10 would be a A+ result? He finished 11th and seems to be all negative... this guys reasoning is just all over the place
You were moving on the bike but in person you looked like you were working so much harder than everyone else you had a lot more body movement where everyone was ridged in place in the aero position
The fact that you're only 5 minutes back and not enjoying all the benefits of the data shows just how talented you are. Level the playing field Lionel, there are huge gains on the table available to you.
Mr Sanders! Please acknowledge the first order of things that is that the recovery from Oregon to this race was not good enough. This is absolutely relevant. I heard from you that your swim fitness is the perfect measurement of your overall state. This race just showed the timing from one race to the next was off. Oregon was solid on the taper. Next one you will bounce back.
Today, all top triathletes have a complete team of people around them who carefully plan the training and provide technical, psychological and physical support. Self-training may have worked 10 years ago, but no longer today. If Lionel doesn't open up to professionals around him, he won't be able to compete..
Sam long doesn’t. And he won three straight.
@@adamreebs2585 Sam is in another age and foremost in his three wins he didn't race the best of the best. Let's see how he will perform in the future
@@carolyndase3584he did just come 5th in this race (a world class field) after likely not sleeping a week straight and landing in Milwaukee the night before race. Maybe the 3 wins weren’t against super deep world class fields, but this performance keeping all that in mind shows he is world class athlete
Sam has been coached almost his whole entire pro career. He only started to self-coach this year.
Lionel has gone several years self-coach. Even when he was coached by Mikal (his last coacg)he was training harder than what was perscribed to him. That's not a recipe for success as a pro triathlete.
Most of us know the formula to get fit: intensity + volume + recovery. Few take the time to slow down and fix issues, explore new technologies, and gather and analyze data because there is a perceived risk-reward asymmetry. Why go to the wind tunnel when you can smash a 6 hour ride. Why do drills in the pool when you can do 100s on the minute. Having the discipline and patience to do the due diligence to address inefficiencies and improve performance apart from just more swim, bike, run is what makes one truly professional. Jan is a prime example of this.
I find it extremely inspirational since I believe I recognize the struggle, for sure in the swim. I look foreward to see what you will do to solve the inefficiency, specially for the swim part
Lionel’s post race commentary is like couple’s counseling. It’s was pretty cool, I could have done better, I need more accountability.
Lionel 11th amongst the best of the best after smashing a competition a week before, love this guy!
Dude, I agree with you. Top tier guys are checking stuff to make their equipment the best. Navy seals get their weapons customized, Michael Jordan trained with the best guy for physiotherapy. I don’t go to the wind tunnel because I am not at that level, I don’t get the top of the line bike because my ability does not match that. I bet having 1% less wind resistance will improve your time and will save energy for the run.
Chin up mate, you're a legend going through a bad patch, all good- onward and upward :)
There is a point on what Lionel is saying, when he was 2 in Kona, his, bike, his bike fit, clothes and all other stuff related to efficiency was not even considered on his performance.
Now with all that technology he must be back on draw board to solve that details. 372w np in theory, he should be in the front in 50/60k. Considering his 74 kilos of weight
You are, the man. The inspiration I needed.
Lionel your quote is No Limits. Can you please remove fear from your limits. Fear holds back great people from being exceptional!! Face this fear, but also face all your other fears!! Live with little to no fears to live to your full potential. Stop sabotaging your progress through any fears!!! Onwards and Upwards 💪🏽❗️❗
You probably don’t read these,Lionel,because people leave suggestions about everything. But I will leave my efficiency swimming message that has helped me improve my swim times with less effort. My 100s in workouts have improved 4-5 seconds and the effort is less. I am not a bad swimmer to begin with and do swim a lot. A good swimmer in my training group said I work hard but my stroke is like Lionel Sanders-he told me to concentrate on my catch as soon as my hand comes out of the water by my hip. I now catch and pull a lot more water with lower heart rate and less strokes per length.
Would love to see you get out of the water less than 1:30 down
I think there's a lot of over analyzing here. ..Listen if you swam 2 minutes faster you were set up for a sprint finish for top 5 with Sam Long... Pre race that was A++ goal for you. Can't forget the swim. Jan always says that's why it's called a triathlon.
just wish pto can show more of these battles in the next race
9:00 - Germany is just around the corner, and down the road from Finland. Perhaps do the 70.3 WC and then spend three days the next week at Canyon No?
Love watching him as a very entertaining youtuber now more than him being a pro triathlete.
Like the high majority of supporters here that have thoughts on what you ought to do moving forward I too, have some thoughts! First things first, Lionel . . . you have made a phenomenal career in triathlon and have done phenomenally well for all of your inefficiencies (your words from the video)! I don’t understand enough about swim technique or bike technique to comment but what I do see especially in the swim is mobility issues compared to top men which leads to not as smooth a stroke - like you’ve said before you’re super tense and fighting the water (leaking energy). In the bike, I have found you to be an great biker as you’ve stated many times and are know for is your bike/run combo. I’m sure you have this set up or are waiting for calls back but simply go to the wind tunnel. Find your best position (dang it - you have earned all of the fans you have and all the support you can use from Canyon, nutritionists strength and conditioning coaches)! Nobody in my mind deserves this more than you!! Go to Germany, come back and ride the way you have but with better position and more efficiency. Your engine is massive, heart even bigger, more grit than anyone I’ve seen out there, with such a level of work ethic towards finding out how good you can be!
Now, you have run in the 1:07/8 range for the half off the bike in a 70.3 . . . yes more people are doing it but you’ve already been there and with as you stated inefficiency! You’re stiff and your form pays the price but you are a freaking amazing runner. In Chandler Arizona there is The Stretch Lady (Ann Frederick) who owns the Stretch to Win Institute . . . set some time aside and go see her! Her husband in a physiotherapist and is well versed in the Stretch To Win system and they were both dancers! They will help open you up and access parts of your body you did’t think you could. Finally, as a long time runner and lover of track and field . . . see if you can connect with Dan Phaff . . . one of the best technique experts in running period.
In Summary:
You are a phenomenal triathlete who has done so much already . . . get the rest that I see you can get. “NO LIMITS!”
Go to Germany - do the dang wind tunnel get into the position that will gain you watts and more efficiency!
Go to Ann Frederick and her husband Chris in Chandler Arizona at The Stretch to Win Institute (one of the best places to invest) and I’m certain they’ll help you open up, reduce overall body tension which will help you in the water, and on the run!
Dan Phaff is the best sprint technique guy and he can sort that out so you’re more efficient.
Let’s go Lionel! Team Sanders with Erin and the little guy + Talbot, and all the fans you have are pulling for you ! No Stone unturned.
Jerry Rodrigues will guide you as you said.
Amazing response. Pretty much everything I have been thinking for years and you have encapsulated it far better than I ever could of. We all want to see him at the front and making those motions more effortless has to help. Thank you Lionel for sharing your thoughts and life with us, and thank you Scott for this comment.
@@geoffbadger9597 Hi Geoff - the man’s a legend in my mind and I’m super proud of all he’s accomplished and overcome! Looking forward to the next part of his journey!
@@scottholland2558 completely agree. I’ve been following him since he came into triathlon and I admire him. He’s an extremely inspirational person and I will always follow his progress.
@@geoffbadger9597 Absolutely! Win, like in Oregon 70.3 or 11th like in Milwaukee always interested in his result because we know he leaves nothing on the course! Great to know other folks love what he brings!
Lionel has said that part of the issue with his swimming is a lack of (i assume shoulder) mobility? I havent seen him mention if he has seen physios/osteopaths etc to improve that. It's clear that its technique not aerobic fitness and his speed will always be limited if his immobility impacts his technique. And by technique i mean high shoulder recovery, not just high elbow which is always difficult for non-junior swimmers
FFS - I don’t understand how Lionel can still be talking about what he’s going to change post race and is still trying to figure it out. He’s not 25 but 35 and has been in the game for a long time. I don’t think the “other” guys are F1 at all - I just think they’ve gone to experts and have followed a set process that’s been given to them.
I’m looking forward to Lionel getting his act together and doing himself justice in a big race - he deserves it.
Last time he changed coaches: "I don't want to work on efficiency because my engine is too small" :D He is truely running circles.
I love your positivity and logic, first or eleventh, you rock bro 💪👍
YOU PLAY, TO WIN, THE GAME!
Don't forget that the speed to power ratio on a technical course like this will always be lower. I mean, you're dealing with 180 turns multiple times and practically stopping at those points.
Sounds like a broken record. Everytime he loses to the Europeans he goes into this mindset. Your bike and run are awesome. You need to do a week of sculling, doggy paddle and yoga then be dropped in middle of the ocean and swim back to the shore over three four days. You will start fixing ur inneficiences there.
a bit unorthodox...anybody try that except Eddy?
Hey Lionel, don’t worry travelling to Germany fans here to help you out 😊
Your doing great and have plenty of time to Crush Everyone! You still have a good 4 or 5 years to Win Everything and U WILL!!! #BELIEVE:)💪
Hi Lionel, I don't know if you read the comments, but I think you really should try testing in wind tunnel. It's about the same cost as a set of wheels for 2-3 hours. I've seen a2wt, but I don't know them. There is a lot of place like it. If it's the money, I think you could do a live event with TH-cam Giving fundraiser... I'd give... and do a video about the test...
Remember the 1% rule. Find those 1% improvements. Train race pace in all disciplines. Start with 1 km target race pace and see how long you can hold it
Get a sports psychologist and lockdown the voices. You are all over the place.
I think it’s time to dust off the Garneau from 2017 👌
1000%
To the top
Enter some 1500m swimming races and try break your PR (by as much as u can)
Yip and get your ass kicked that's going to help
Jonathan Marcus for your running - he and Steve Magners I’m not sure anybody knows as much about running as these guys.
Jonathan in particular with running mechanics and how to correct inefficiencies. He fixed my running from a few calls and being several thousand miles apart.
Just thought I’d share.
The scholar program is their education platform -
Your inspiring tens of thousands Lionel, be awesome everyday
i am in the program. I dont think its for him, he needs less ideas, not more! And Steve and John are super, but i dont know how good they are with triathlon?
1) just contact Brenton Ford. He already did an analysis on you!
2) you dont need windtunnel, velodrome with good protocols is perfect for you since you will completely change the airflow when cycling due to the terrible leg movement.
3) yoga and osteopath
4) just stick to ANY decent plan for longer than 3 weeks
I also think it's interesting that Blu was pretty far down in the swims a few years back - but recently with his focus on ITU - he has been swimming in the front pack, and with some of very best swimmers in the game. I know Blu was a national junior swimmer - but it does show there may be some big gains that are out there for those with great fitness but back pack swimming
Wind tunnel for a pro is a must. May not be able to fix swim but definitely can get more Efficient on the bike which will help your run. For sure there is time to be lost in those areas
Love the positivity and the relentless pursuit…
This is just from a middle of a packer who's watched your stuff for years. Don't blow the whole thing up, find those efficiencies and make tweaks, not 180s. You've got a lot more left.
Optimize! The 70.3 worlds are closer to German wind tunnels. All the best for the prep. Milwaukee is cool, it's Harley Davidson's playground.
I really find inspiration in your mindset!
You have a good heart, and that's all that matters! Go your way, it turns out fine.
@Lionel, if you read this, you know that you have it in you, it's a matter of tweaking your swim, run, cycling and assuming that everybody are clean which I have my doubts. Anyway take this as motivation to beat them don't be too hard on yourself, you are as good as everybody else.
People have been saying he is in-efficient on the bike and run for about 10 years...and now he wants to admit it? I like Lionel but dude....this is shit you should have started fixing in 2014.
Dude, you got this. You’re “this close” to blowing the lid off this M’fer
still believe and counting on you. trust in the process and in yourself!! You still can do it!!!!
It was a year ago that Lionel said he needed to improve his swimming or quit. There has been no mention of how that's going in any of these videos for a year. So his fans are left to see his performances in the races to gauge the improvement and...I guess it's not going so well. We all want to see LS close the swimming efficiency gap!
Can you explain me why you are afraid of going to Europe for wind tunnel/velodrome testing? It surely will help you!
Its a fair point that the PTO addressed the motos and drafting in the mid pack at rhe sane time.....kudos for that because it makes the post race interviews less whiney from all sides of the pro field.....awesome
Zone 2 training Lionel, it’s the secret weapon. Slow is fast big dog
Welcome to Finland Lionel!
I thought Lionel would be inspired by seeing Frodeno performing in that way at 42.
Lionel, for me your case its all about your food, nutrition and sleep.Also your hunger for a win is at a low level.
Classic Lionel
Keep at it - stop bullshitting and crack on. You’re plenty talented enough to compete top 5. No excuses. 👍💪
Love Lionel since day 1 of his TH-cam. But dude, not even taking canyon up on the offer is like not going to work. It’s simply the job to test. Also just fun to find watts.
Take an off-season and just spend 2 weekends testing things in velodrome and wind tunnel. Bike is really an easy fix to at least 90% of your inefficiencies.
Retire now if you’re too scared to go to a world class facility and be warmly welcomed and treated by experts that’ll also offer you a chocolate protein shake while all is happening.
That you still don’t even have somebody at least 1 time a week to keep you accountable for swim technique is also very surprising. You can swim as much as you want to, but you will just engrain bad technique more.
I think you’re on it now. Wish you all the best Champion. You will get there.
Hey Lionel
Here some things you might consider
Your swim won’t be quick till you get your timing right , when your time is off your cross sectional area in pool is too large to slip thru the water(ie drills , flexibility) have a look at your race in pool your timing when you were tired was better than fresh
Your bike , push too big a gear especially if not on a good day
Spend too many days looking at watts than cadence have a look at the pro 90 + revs
When was the last time you did any motor pacing (probably never)
I also have trouble understanding the way u train way all the greats are doing 80 easy 20 hard method
Hope I not to harsh but I’m not sure if the people around you are telling it straight
Best of luck hope you can turn it around . Cheers bb
Keep doing what you have been doing bike and run and nutrition and recovery. Focus on the swim and you’ll be able to stay with the top guys on the bike and run. You just have to swim better. You got this. 🏊🏻♀️🏊🏻♀️🏊🏻♀️💪
I’ve gone from being a huge fan to now a bystander watching the inevitable wreck as he fades into irrelevance. This guy is his own worst enemy. I hate seeing it as I genuinely wish him all the success.
However the most alarming part is he thinks post career he’s going to be a coach? Lord have mercy on any soul who’d take his advice from a coaching perspective and expect success.
Lionel’s problem is Lionel and the others around him who pander to him instead of calling him on his bullshit. He doesn’t need a sports psychologist he needs a full on behavioural therapist.
Clearly the guy has demons he’s not fully slayed just from switching drugs for fitness adrenaline. I’d guess that many of those underlying issues contribute to his lack of trust in others. It’s like he thinks he’s the only one who’s got stakes in the game so nobody else’s opinion matters.
We are seeing the beginning of the end. After he is destroyed at 70.3 Worlds this year I see him retiring. I’ll continue to pray he smartens up and proves me 10000% wrong.
Yep...The writing has been on the wall for a while now and you can see that the rest of the "industry" is feeling it as well. Lionel may be the highest subscribing and most popular triathlete on the internet but he isn't even registering in the race media anymore at these big races. The long.slow,painful journey to irrelevance is playing out before our eyes and that is hard to watch.
A huge step in the right direction would be getting rid of beta cuck boy Talbot Cock who is nothing but a yes man to Lionel and gives rusty trombones to any top pro who gives him the time of day
You wrote it perfectly, it is inevitable but I think Lionel deep down knows it and he might still make a living selling sports products and doing some cross over stunts such as celebrity UFC fights/starting his podcast.
Why don’t you guys go do some productive training instead. Do you even train tho?
In his defense about coaching, he knows what to do, he just doesn't have the patience to do it. A truism of human beings is that they're universally incapable of taking their own great advice, which is why most pros understand the need for a coaching team and willingly relinquish control over desicions to them. IMO, Lionel would be a perfectly capable coach.....just not one that coaches himself.
I love Lionel, I really hope he gets things figured out and reaches his competitive goals.
Come to Germany and get even more competitive. You have lots of fans here mate
u gotta have a 400 repeat session for the swim at least 2 times a month if not 4, long sessions are key 400x6 1 min rest or so @ race pace
Was a good race, should of carbed up on freshii's... j/k. It's hard to train/race with a little one, keep your head high and focus on the three pillars: sleep, nutrition and exercise.