Picked this monitor up at $600. I just set the monitor to HDR and leave it in that mode. I don’t really care about SDR mode and if you are only using it for gaming, it’s not really an issue and you won’t be swapping back and forth so often. Definitely a great value compared to so many other expensive competitors.
Looking at its specs, HDR isn't ideal but it's OK (a chequerboard test is only about 2500:1, so black zones are mostly grey, it behaves like VA but brighter).
I've had an OLED monitor for over a year now and I always leave it in HDR as well. No reason not to. SDR is dim and dull in comparison, even on desktop.
Just bought it, it is pretty damn great for $599, the color is amazing, contrast is great. Took some fiddling with to get HDR looking decent on Windows but better off just using SDR unless full screen gaming. HDR definitely looks good, but compared to OLED this still has a ways to go. That said, if you have small children that may forget to turn off the display, this works as burn in isn't an issue.
Thanks for finally doing mini led. Oled just isn't an option for me yet being a professional that does a ton of static image programs for work but also wants a good image 75% of oled when I want to game.
Looks promising, in terms of this panel existing for manufacturers to use now, but I think I'll wait for a more competent company to make use of it. Those OSD controls, and having to switch multiple OSD options every time you go in or out of HDR mode, are a complete dealbreaker on a modern display.
the question i have is, how does this new Mini Led Monitor like this Acer compare to the old Pg27uq + acer predator x27, their Local Dimming algrm is supported by the gsync ultimate module, so i guess the older high end HDR Monitors are still the best or not :O?
Eventually I will want a 2160p high refresh non-OLED, so I appreciate any reviews you do in that space. Hopefully another product will earn an unreserved recommendation from you soon.
I’ve been using this monitor for a few weeks. You can switch between hdr and sdr using the user presets. Takes less than 5secs even with the horrible buttons. Also, acer has a widget software where you can set which preset to use when launching specific exe. I just have switch to the HDR preset when I launch any of my HDR games
I was thinking of this. I have acer monitor with same shitty osd but you can setup multiple user settings and swap between them with 1 button to avoid the hustle.
Thanks for covering the monitor, Tim! I want to say two things - first, thanks for calling out the issues with the Sharpness setting issue, I'd actually say that the tonemapping that Acer uses for SDR content in the HDR mode is generally pretty good, to the point where I don't feel the need to ever turn HDR off. Is it perfect? No, but it works well enough and with AutoHDR in W11 after calibration generally even comparing HDR on and off it feels not really worth it to toggle the HDR option at all.
I can not believe ACER has still not fixed the 'Auto HDR' issue that has been around for 4+ years now. I have a XV273X from 2019 and it has the exact same issue with regards to manually having to switch in the menu for HDR. This just reaffirms my decision to never buy another Acer monitor again. Thank you for the thoroughness in testing all features of the monitor; most other reviewers would just skip over this like it was nothing.
Hey, I'm currently testing the Windows 11 build 26016 and its ACM Auto Color Management feature. It basically clamps down non specifically tagged content to sRGB and only uses DCI P3 when tagged so. Could you make a video about that feature and about its performance? Because it seems to do the job pretty well and even TH-cam videos are not oversaturated anymore. Thanks!!
@@C0BEX unfortunately yes. It was publicly released with 23H2 but they took that update down due to some issues people were having. I think the public update should come very soon
Does the ACM work for desktop as well? In other words, does Windows desktop look oversaturated on a wide gamut monitor when ACM is turned on, or does ACM fix this issue?
@@dnzlwshnktn2092 it fixes the issue and the Desktop looks like it should, finally. You can really tell that by looking at the Google Chrome and the Windows Explorer logo, especially the red and the yellow/orange parts :)
I just ordered this panel as my second monitor, specifically for YT/Streaming content and discord mostly, while I run a 32" W-OLED as my main gaming monitor. I got it for $500 out the door with taxes included so given that I will be running it full time in HDR with no intent to turn that off, I think it will do great for the price. For my OLED I got the LG dual mode W-OLED monitor for $950 all in, would have gone for the ASUS model but I couldn't justify the extra 350 dollars when I got the price I did for the LG, plus I feel more confident in LGs customer service, and my old LG monitor is an absolute champ. Now I just need to succeed in getting a 5090 and a 9950X3d in January and I will have one sweet setup...
just got this on the 12th of december haha, first time experiencing 4k and miniled, absolutely spectacular. my older secondary monitor is the 1080p390hz acer, that one is smooth as hell but the black levels are dissapointing. gonna watch this review with this monitor in 4k now :)
This review started out so promising, then the cons just kept building up. I'm looking for a work and play monitor so the specs of this sounded great but as you said, didn't stick the landing
I'm curios if the 1440p version of this monitor (XV275UP3) has some differences like the PG27Q. This looks promising, but I would prefer a VA panel for a mini LED hdr monitor, as long as the performance isn't atrocious like the pg2711 from cooler master
Samsung level performance would be cool, but honestly for a content consuption monitor I just need the response times not to be completely garbage@@GewelReal
I bought this monitor and the KTC g27p6 OLED 1440p 240Hz during black friday deal. Tbh, while Oled looks great, the HDR in this acer monitor ended up looking better for me. I just couldn't get the HDR on the KTC to look good despite being OLED. I am most likely going to end up keeping the Acer and returing the KTC.
Bought two of these over the sales holiday, both had awful QC issues and had to return them. Loved everything about it other than QC, I highly recommend them IF you do get a good panel.
Speaking of mini-led monitors, I'm pretty interested in what the upcoming RedMagic 5088 Partition will be like! Supposedly, it uses the newest line of mini LED panels that have 5088 dimming zones. We may finally be approaching OLED levels of contrast without the downsides, though the motion clarity will still be slightly worse.
It's an ips panel but 5088 mini LEDs could make up for it if they have a good local dimming algorithm. 1 million contrast ratio is more than enough for an locally dimmed lcd panel if no blooming is present.
I highly recommend reviewing the very competitive AOC Q27G3XMN. I got this monitor for $250 and I think it's by far the best monitor at this price point. Has 300+ local dimming zones, HDR 1000, VRR, and decent color accuracy. All while being under $300. It's a crazy good deal. Would love to see what you think!
I have this monitor for about 5 months now and I also have a Neo G7. Neo G7 is better in every way except viewing angle. XV275K P3 has decent screen and local dimming hardware on paper. But the problem is, also mentioned in the video, the HDR is too dark in most of scenarios in HDR video consumption (gaming is fine strangely). Huge black crash if there is any light source in the room. It should be a simple firmware fix to add black level adjust in HDR but looks like Acer does not want to put any resource to make this monitor better. As for the auto HDR and local dimming, it does support automatic change but it is a bit tricky to set. If you leave the color mode in "HDR" and adaptive diming to "off" in SDR, it will automatically switch to HDR and enable local dimming when it detect an HDR video source. The adaptive dimming (local dimming) will still show "off" but it is actually turned on (in HDR) and off (in SDR) automatically.
How about reviewing KTC's M32P10 and INNOCN's 32m2v? Both 4k144 32inch 1152 FALD zones. Bizarre that a big monitor channel like this hasn't reviewed them, and say there aren't a lot of options for monitors of that type.
I don't know about Australia, but you can't buy either of those monitors in the UK. Maybe they haven't looked at them because they can't source them for review?
The Cooler Master GP27U with 1.4.1 firmware works very well with no flickering, automatic switching between SDR and HDR and remember FALD settings between modes.
on reddit their are still complaining about flcikering issue, KVM switch and impossbility to set brigthness in HDR Mode. I guess they will never get fixed the probs. If thex fix one thing another thing doesnt work in result.
thanks for the video. i switch between HDR and SDR quite often on my current monitor as i find SDR to be more accurate when using Adobe lightroom and i need my photos to look as close to what my customers will be viewing them on. and most normal people dont even know hdr exists. i just use win+Alt+B to switch between the two and its super simple. this monitor would not be for me as having to navigate in the osd every time would drive me insane. this monitor is also not for me as its hella expensive and im a simple peasant :P
I got this monitor around September! I'm excited to see your thoughts (one nag off the bat. I HATE the navigation and one of the buttons broke off. So I have to jam my finger in the hole to change it)
Really enjoyed this review and it's pushing me to look for other options. Did any other companies put together a similar monitor with finer polish on the build quality / firmware?
@1:48 Yeah ACER is NOTORIOUS for having Monitors that look different in Real life vs it's Online Product Page... I have the Acer BM270 27 Inch 4k 384 Local Dimming Zones and it doesn't look nothing like it's product page.
Xiaomi 27" 27i G Pro Mini is coming to EU market next month, with 3x more Mini Led count competing in a similar price bracket, itt might just be what Mini Led needs to hit the medium consumer market
750+€ here in Germany 😵 there are far more attractive offers around that price, like the Alienware AW3423DWF. But the menu is quite the mood killer, as the early 2000s want their UI back.
@@socialreport2836 I don't call wether the Alienware nor the Acer a work monitor - OLED because of burn-in, the Acer because of the menu & software issues. If I have to switch often between SDR/HDR the Acer would drive me nuts. Both are for gaming and media consmption, nothing more, imho.
Hey Tim. Thanks for this review. Could you review the 1440p VA variant (XV272UP3) as well? And also the very similar (Possibly same panel?) AOC Q27G3XMN? Thanks! BTW did you manage to figure out how to adjust the RGB lighting at the back of the monitor? Did you also try the Acer Display Widget? It might be a useful way to bypass the frustrating button based OSD.
Hopefully next year there will finally be some monitors that can have sustained HDR brightness over 1000. Been looking for something like that for ages. Of course the rest of the specs need to be on par as well
@@drunkhusband6257 Well I wouldn’t say that’s entirely true I’m talking about the amount of nits the display can push out instabiel when in HDR mode. I have seen several different HDR monitors in my life, and I definitely do see the different capabilities some monitors can have. I have a friend who has a so called HDR monitor but it’s only with HDR 600 and comparing that for example to an ASUS ROG PG32UQX on the brightness alone in HDR it is a whole different game. There is so much more pop going on than on a monitor that does not has that amount of brightness. Granted that monitor has many other problems of course but it’s HDR capabilities are excellent. And sure, brightness in HDR mode is not everything you have many other things to look out for when talking about an HDR monitor (see the HDR checklist from Monitors Unboxed) but brightness is definitely a contributing factor to showing important things on screen that need extra illumination
@@anonim92t yeah but they didn’t really have that because that 2000 wasn’t sustained (which I didn’t expect anyway) and second of all it wasn’t even sustained 1000 if I remember which is kinda the minimum from what I personally want and also there were many other things with those monitors that didn’t check my checklist unfortunately. Hopefully next year :)
wait... this might be it! a wide color gamut, high refresh rate 27" 4K monitor... all I need is that anti-glare nonsense coating removed and i'd order this right now. as someone who does wedding photography / filmmaking as well as gaming on the side... this would be nice ngl
It's good to see more monitors supporting power delivery of 60W+, which is perfect for adding a laptop for work purposes. There's a lot of monitors with USB C without power delivery, or with useless amounts of power like 15W, requiring the user to separately connect power. No KVM switch on this one is a killer though.
So when you use one of the OLEDs, they are able to switch automatically to SDR when you exit an HDR game or stop watching HDR movie ? Also one thing I'm always wondering... when a game has built-in option to enable HDR, do you still need to enable the windows HDR slider or not ? HDR is a huge mess for me...
I use an LG C3 42" as my PC monitor and play in HDR a lot but use windows in SDR. There is a shortcut for Win 10/11 Windows key+ Alt+B that turns HDR on and off within windows. When you do this the display automatically goes to HDR game mode. Then you launch your game and most games that support HDR will recognize that it is enabled in wondows and the HDR mode will be turned on. Usually in most games you can asjust the brightness and contrast and such in HDR mode like you can in Cyberpunk and Mass Effect etc. Hope this helped.
I wonder this too. I thought that once you turn on HDR in the windows options the display will automatically pick it up, but won't be able to distinguish between an sdr youtube video and an hdr movie. At least that is what happens with my samsung tv which is vesa hdr 1000. As soon as I turn on hdr in windows it switches to hdr and it doesn't detect if the content i'm watching is hdr or not
14:15 Yeah, I wish Windows wasn't so annoying with HDR. It's crazy how much better consoles and TVs are at this. When I start up an HDR game on my TV, it goes into HDR mode. If the game doesn't have HDR, it stays in the SDR colour space. On Windows, you always have to turn off HDR after gaming because SDR doesn't look right with it constantly enabled. It's so annoying.
i see this mentioned a lot but the only difference i can tell between SDR and SDR tonemapped in HDR is the gamma (i run custom 2.4 in SDR and in HDR it sets 2.2 and i cant change it) is this more of an issue with LCDs? (tho not being able to just switch with the windows shortcut but having to go though the OSD seems like a terrible implementation by this specific screen)
@@MKR3238 Black levels for SDK are also wrong. It also tonemaps all content to sRGB, even if you are viewing Rec 709 content, like TV shows and TH-cam videos. The tonemapping is bad, there is just no excuse for it.
Hey Tim. Could you comment on fan noise? I'm assuming that because it has an FALD setup there is a cooling fan? How noticeable is the noise? I'm not too worried for gaming as I wear headphones, but I often listen to music and watch YT via speakers. I used to own an X27 and the fan was a little too noticeable for comfort.
I just returned this monitor a couple days ago. There is a fan running, and it runs constantly. It shouldn't be noticeable if you have any other audio playing, but it will never be truly silent if you're looking for that at times. I returned it because I just couldn't deal with the exagerated blooming in dark game scenes and all the OSD/input weirdness of the monitor. The price is insanely good at $550, but I ended up switching to a 32" monitor and am so far enjoying it a lot more.
@@alexgifford5895 Thanks for the feedback. I'm not looking for it to be silent fortunately, so it sounds like the fan is at a bearable level. The old X27's fan was a little too intrusive sometimes. :D
For sure, you'll be fine if you have any speakers or headphones playing. Hopefully they can put out some sort of update for the firmware and OSD stuff, because that was the most annoying part of the monitor for me. I'm not even somebody who changes monitor settings very often, but there was just a lot of weird little firmware things going on with the monitor that I decided it wasn't worth keeping. @@Daemon_Wraith
do you guys plan on doing a review of the XV275UP3 ? eitherway I appreciate the review as there is hardly any information on this monitor or the above mentioned XV275UP3, let alone reliable reviews like the ones provided by you guys :)
Got this monitor on sale and turned HDR on and forgot about it. My husband has a Neo G8 and the picture on this Acer competes with that easily. I agree the OSD is terrible, but it definitely does not make the monitor unusable. It's definitely worth buying at the sale price.
Huh, I have that monitor and am considering returning it for this because of proper local dimming, higher refresh rate and wider color gamut. What's the downside?
Got this Black Friday weekend at 5:50. Only complaints I have are the best amount is too deep for my arm so I've got to figure something out for that and like you said I really don't like the buttons and the OSD
I wish you'd list HDR resolution in addition to zone count. A panel with a 10x6 HDR resolution (for 60 zones) might offer something, while an edge-lit panel with a 30x2 resolution wouldn't.
Do you know if there is any meaningful differences between the Msi g274qpf-QD and the "non QD" variant? I see multiple retailers selling the Non-QD variant, often times a lot cheaper and on sale for as low as $200. I looked up speca and manuals and don't see any differencee between the QD and non QD variant in terms of brightness, color, speed.
Hi,I would appreciate it sooooo much if you made a review for the Lg GR75Q-B 1440p 165hz monitor. I have been thinking of buying it, but I am not sure about the performance of it. It seems too good to be true. You see in my country it costs 280€.
What would you recommend between this and Samsung neo g7 32"? I wouldn't mind the osd. Really looking for good/great HDR and good response time. Console gaming mostly, around the same price this black Friday.
Can you please review the The Predator XB323QK? I’m struggling to decide which of the 32” monitors to buy between it and the Samsung odyssey neo g7. They’re literally both the same price rn
Strange, but a reviewer from usatoday said the opposite about local dimming artifacts: he noticed flickering, hue shifts and backlight delays on Acer, and Cooler Master offers "better experience all around" (nothing in details). Have anyone faced with such a problems with Acer?
Nice looking monitor but I really want a 32" 4K monitor with a minimum of this level of performance. Just needs a better build quality with hopefully a firmware update
For Super Sharpness in HDR mode, I don't know why the text is clearer when I leave it enabled. Therefore, I think you don't need to change the Super Sharpness setting in HDR.
Can you guys please test the AOC Q27G3XMN? It’s under $300, mini led, 180hz flat va panel with hdr1000 supposedly. I wanna get one but would love to see your opinion on it first
Currently looking at buying a 2nd monitor for my setup. Would love a video about monitors purely for media consumption/workflow and advice about 1440p or 4k resolutions for that application! So cheapest monitors one could buy without all the gaming specs, that provide good enough visuals. Just a video idea :)
@@marrow94 Makes no sense to buy a 550$ monitor for a secondary, not to me anyways. And you dont need low latency nor high refresh rate if you wont game on it
Just returned the M27U and got this and oh my god , it s a night and day difference. I really don t know why people are not recommending this monitor more .
@@its_ohhrite For me it s simply amazing , i m not a monitor freak , i just wanted something that works great out of the box with office and also gaming . And this is in my opinion the best option . I cannot justify spending more than this on a monitor.
@@Kadoom1131 I meant the kvm functionality. Since this monitor does not come with one are there any workarounds? Also do you find the settings like brightness or anything basic reset frequently and you have to change it everytime? I have seen many reports of that.
Do you think that I should wait for a budget 1440p 240hz monitor because in most stores around australia s a lot of the main ones such as the MSI G274QPX are out of stock, or if I should buy now, and if so which one
Finally a miniLED and it seems great too! Finally HDR in the hands of people at decent prices :) let’s hope the prices drop next year too! Connect a PS5 and leave autoHDR On and you won’t need to go back and forth in the OSD settings
Unreal that all the HDR toggle issues I have on my XV273K live on. Especially annoying that freesync disables itself on that one when going back to SDR.
Outstanding review, its nice to see actual HDR monitors coming down to reasonable prices. I'll personally wait a little longer to make the jump when the compromises are tolerable. I do have a question that probably should have been asked on one of your other videos, but I just remembered it when you mentioned locked overdrive controls. I just got the Gigabyte M27q Pro on black Friday, but noticed that overdrive controls are locked in sRGB mode. This confuses me since its the most accurate to my eyes so I use it 95% of the time including gaming, even though the brightness is pretty low. Your review shows it not having a single overdrive mode so I am wondering what picture mode I should gaming in? I looked for the answer everywhere with no concrete advise. Am I not supposed to be gaming in that mode since its controls are locked? I'll welcome insight from anyone with a similar monitor, thanks.
Apparently the overdrive setting in vrr just uses the last overdrive setting chosen before turning vrr on. Also, fwiw, 160 hz is not the default since it uses a higher level of dsc. If you enable it over and above 144 hz, say goodbye to dldsr (at least in a dual monitor setup).
Would you consider reviewing the Acer XF243Y? It is a 180hz 1080p panel that i just picked up for $100. I think a lot of super budget buyers could be interested :)
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Picked this monitor up at $600. I just set the monitor to HDR and leave it in that mode. I don’t really care about SDR mode and if you are only using it for gaming, it’s not really an issue and you won’t be swapping back and forth so often. Definitely a great value compared to so many other expensive competitors.
Looking at its specs, HDR isn't ideal but it's OK (a chequerboard test is only about 2500:1, so black zones are mostly grey, it behaves like VA but brighter).
Have you at least calibrated it?
I've had an OLED monitor for over a year now and I always leave it in HDR as well. No reason not to. SDR is dim and dull in comparison, even on desktop.
@@ch0ketv_ On LED it's the opposite, SDR is brighter and more uniform for work.
did you notice the flowering seen from the front? like in the viewfinder?
Just bought it, it is pretty damn great for $599, the color is amazing, contrast is great. Took some fiddling with to get HDR looking decent on Windows but better off just using SDR unless full screen gaming. HDR definitely looks good, but compared to OLED this still has a ways to go. That said, if you have small children that may forget to turn off the display, this works as burn in isn't an issue.
Thanks for finally doing mini led. Oled just isn't an option for me yet being a professional that does a ton of static image programs for work but also wants a good image 75% of oled when I want to game.
Wow, your reviews are getting better and better. I would call this industry leading.
it probably is the most accurate and reliable in deed
Looks promising, in terms of this panel existing for manufacturers to use now, but I think I'll wait for a more competent company to make use of it. Those OSD controls, and having to switch multiple OSD options every time you go in or out of HDR mode, are a complete dealbreaker on a modern display.
the question i have is, how does this new Mini Led Monitor like this Acer compare to the old Pg27uq + acer predator x27, their Local Dimming algrm is supported by the gsync ultimate module, so i guess the older high end HDR Monitors are still the best or not :O?
Eventually I will want a 2160p high refresh non-OLED, so I appreciate any reviews you do in that space. Hopefully another product will earn an unreserved recommendation from you soon.
So did u found it??
@@sudhansusingh9079I am also looking for it too
I’ve been using this monitor for a few weeks. You can switch between hdr and sdr using the user presets. Takes less than 5secs even with the horrible buttons. Also, acer has a widget software where you can set which preset to use when launching specific exe. I just have switch to the HDR preset when I launch any of my HDR games
What about Updating the Firmware, does it allow you to do that?
I was thinking of this. I have acer monitor with same shitty osd but you can setup multiple user settings and swap between them with 1 button to avoid the hustle.
Do yourself a favor and disable hdr forever....absolute junk tech
@@doctorfresh3856haven’t tried yet but I would assume so? Why would I want to update the firmware out of curiosity?
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Thanks for covering the monitor, Tim! I want to say two things - first, thanks for calling out the issues with the Sharpness setting issue, I'd actually say that the tonemapping that Acer uses for SDR content in the HDR mode is generally pretty good, to the point where I don't feel the need to ever turn HDR off. Is it perfect? No, but it works well enough and with AutoHDR in W11 after calibration generally even comparing HDR on and off it feels not really worth it to toggle the HDR option at all.
Exactly.. the reviewer is not smart enough to have thought of this himself
looks much better than cooler master's offerings. Looking forward to seeing what comes in the future
Great to finally see some miniLED reviews.
I can not believe ACER has still not fixed the 'Auto HDR' issue that has been around for 4+ years now. I have a XV273X from 2019 and it has the exact same issue with regards to manually having to switch in the menu for HDR. This just reaffirms my decision to never buy another Acer monitor again. Thank you for the thoroughness in testing all features of the monitor; most other reviewers would just skip over this like it was nothing.
Have you tried with updated acer drivers?
@@nembaosrs406 Yes latest driver and no difference.
I was just about to pick this monitor top from Best Buy sorta grab I didn't now
This monitor is on sale rn 549 at best buy. Should i buy? I dont see any other mini led 4k monitor at this price or lower.
@@Chicken-o5eit’s 300 on ebay right now
I got one of these a couple of weeks ago for gaming and love it
Hey, I'm currently testing the Windows 11 build 26016 and its ACM Auto Color Management feature. It basically clamps down non specifically tagged content to sRGB and only uses DCI P3 when tagged so. Could you make a video about that feature and about its performance? Because it seems to do the job pretty well and even TH-cam videos are not oversaturated anymore. Thanks!!
Is that an insider build ?
@@C0BEX unfortunately yes. It was publicly released with 23H2 but they took that update down due to some issues people were having.
I think the public update should come very soon
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Does the ACM work for desktop as well? In other words, does Windows desktop look oversaturated on a wide gamut monitor when ACM is turned on, or does ACM fix this issue?
@@dnzlwshnktn2092 it fixes the issue and the Desktop looks like it should, finally.
You can really tell that by looking at the Google Chrome and the Windows Explorer logo, especially the red and the yellow/orange parts :)
To avoid using the bad OSD, there is a software that may work with this model of monitor called Acer Display Widget.
It does.
I just ordered this panel as my second monitor, specifically for YT/Streaming content and discord mostly, while I run a 32" W-OLED as my main gaming monitor. I got it for $500 out the door with taxes included so given that I will be running it full time in HDR with no intent to turn that off, I think it will do great for the price. For my OLED I got the LG dual mode W-OLED monitor for $950 all in, would have gone for the ASUS model but I couldn't justify the extra 350 dollars when I got the price I did for the LG, plus I feel more confident in LGs customer service, and my old LG monitor is an absolute champ. Now I just need to succeed in getting a 5090 and a 9950X3d in January and I will have one sweet setup...
just got this on the 12th of december haha, first time experiencing 4k and miniled, absolutely spectacular. my older secondary monitor is the 1080p390hz acer, that one is smooth as hell but the black levels are dissapointing. gonna watch this review with this monitor in 4k now :)
Time to send it back
@@deathlord77 why?
@kake52 not worth it just wait a few more months foe a better iteration
What do you suggest?@@deathlord77
This review started out so promising, then the cons just kept building up. I'm looking for a work and play monitor so the specs of this sounded great but as you said, didn't stick the landing
Please tell me if you find any, I'm looking for exactly the same thing. Oled isn't an option for me...
Thank you for your coverage! Been looking at this thing for 2 weeks, sadly it's over 700 euro in EU but you don't want to know competition prices.
I'm curios if the 1440p version of this monitor (XV275UP3) has some differences like the PG27Q. This looks promising, but I would prefer a VA panel for a mini LED hdr monitor, as long as the performance isn't atrocious like the pg2711 from cooler master
sadly only Samsung is capable of black magic (pun not intended) with VAs
we need competition dammit!
Yes, only Samsung produces Magic Color cpu for their monotors to properly toggle pixel response times.
TCL bought out one of Samsung's Chinese factories now and seems to be capable of getting the same performance with their HVA panels.@@GewelReal
Samsung level performance would be cool, but honestly for a content consuption monitor I just need the response times not to be completely garbage@@GewelReal
I bought this monitor and the KTC g27p6 OLED 1440p 240Hz during black friday deal. Tbh, while Oled looks great, the HDR in this acer monitor ended up looking better for me. I just couldn't get the HDR on the KTC to look good despite being OLED. I am most likely going to end up keeping the Acer and returing the KTC.
My KTC G42P5 is great! Can Tim review the KTC G27P6? I wanna buy one for my wife.
Bought two of these over the sales holiday, both had awful QC issues and had to return them. Loved everything about it other than QC, I highly recommend them IF you do get a good panel.
Speaking of mini-led monitors, I'm pretty interested in what the upcoming RedMagic 5088 Partition will be like!
Supposedly, it uses the newest line of mini LED panels that have 5088 dimming zones. We may finally be approaching OLED levels of contrast without the downsides, though the motion clarity will still be slightly worse.
I hope redmagic implements an energy savings mode so that this monitor can finally be released in europe
It's an ips panel but 5088 mini LEDs could make up for it if they have a good local dimming algorithm. 1 million contrast ratio is more than enough for an locally dimmed lcd panel if no blooming is present.
I highly recommend reviewing the very competitive AOC Q27G3XMN. I got this monitor for $250 and I think it's by far the best monitor at this price point. Has 300+ local dimming zones, HDR 1000, VRR, and decent color accuracy. All while being under $300. It's a crazy good deal.
Would love to see what you think!
I have two of these from Amazon, returning tomorrow. A lot of glooming around videos on TH-cam. Super weird
@@zenzei_305 I am probably so damn late but that has to be youtube "ambient mode" setting being enabled. You gotta disable that.
The color accuracy sucks in hdr
@@zenzei_305why are you returning them
I have this monitor for about 5 months now and I also have a Neo G7. Neo G7 is better in every way except viewing angle. XV275K P3 has decent screen and local dimming hardware on paper. But the problem is, also mentioned in the video, the HDR is too dark in most of scenarios in HDR video consumption (gaming is fine strangely). Huge black crash if there is any light source in the room. It should be a simple firmware fix to add black level adjust in HDR but looks like Acer does not want to put any resource to make this monitor better.
As for the auto HDR and local dimming, it does support automatic change but it is a bit tricky to set. If you leave the color mode in "HDR" and adaptive diming to "off" in SDR, it will automatically switch to HDR and enable local dimming when it detect an HDR video source. The adaptive dimming (local dimming) will still show "off" but it is actually turned on (in HDR) and off (in SDR) automatically.
Is it the neo g7 43"? I'm looking to buy it, but the negative reviews about ghosting are pulling me away
Neo G7 only has a IPC 3 Color rating of 95% , this has 99%
How about reviewing KTC's M32P10 and INNOCN's 32m2v? Both 4k144 32inch 1152 FALD zones. Bizarre that a big monitor channel like this hasn't reviewed them, and say there aren't a lot of options for monitors of that type.
I don't know about Australia, but you can't buy either of those monitors in the UK. Maybe they haven't looked at them because they can't source them for review?
Yep never heard of those monitor manufacturers here in Australia
The Cooler Master GP27U with 1.4.1 firmware works very well with no flickering, automatic switching between SDR and HDR and remember FALD settings between modes.
Agreed 💪🥰😇👍
on reddit their are still complaining about flcikering issue, KVM switch and impossbility to set brigthness in HDR Mode. I guess they will never get fixed the probs. If thex fix one thing another thing doesnt work in result.
thanks for the video. i switch between HDR and SDR quite often on my current monitor as i find SDR to be more accurate when using Adobe lightroom and i need my photos to look as close to what my customers will be viewing them on. and most normal people dont even know hdr exists. i just use win+Alt+B to switch between the two and its super simple. this monitor would not be for me as having to navigate in the osd every time would drive me insane. this monitor is also not for me as its hella expensive and im a simple peasant :P
I got this monitor around September! I'm excited to see your thoughts (one nag off the bat. I HATE the navigation and one of the buttons broke off. So I have to jam my finger in the hole to change it)
Really enjoyed this review and it's pushing me to look for other options. Did any other companies put together a similar monitor with finer polish on the build quality / firmware?
@1:48 Yeah ACER is NOTORIOUS for having Monitors that look different in Real life vs it's Online Product Page... I have the Acer BM270 27 Inch 4k 384 Local Dimming Zones and it doesn't look nothing like it's product page.
Xiaomi 27" 27i G Pro Mini is coming to EU market next month, with 3x more Mini Led count competing in a similar price bracket, itt might just be what Mini Led needs to hit the medium consumer market
OMG ! 12:16 I thought I had a DEAD PIXEL on the left side but it is luckily the video itself.
750+€ here in Germany 😵 there are far more attractive offers around that price, like the Alienware AW3423DWF.
But the menu is quite the mood killer, as the early 2000s want their UI back.
For work OLED isn't an option due to its burn in issues (it's not a myth, with static images you will get it for certain).
@@socialreport2836 I don't call wether the Alienware nor the Acer a work monitor - OLED because of burn-in, the Acer because of the menu & software issues.
If I have to switch often between SDR/HDR the Acer would drive me nuts.
Both are for gaming and media consmption, nothing more, imho.
Hey Tim. Thanks for this review. Could you review the 1440p VA variant (XV272UP3) as well? And also the very similar (Possibly same panel?) AOC Q27G3XMN? Thanks! BTW did you manage to figure out how to adjust the RGB lighting at the back of the monitor? Did you also try the Acer Display Widget? It might be a useful way to bypass the frustrating button based OSD.
Hopefully next year there will finally be some monitors that can have sustained HDR brightness over 1000. Been looking for something like that for ages. Of course the rest of the specs need to be on par as well
HDR has nothing to do with brightness, don't know where you people come up with this nonsense...
@@drunkhusband6257 Well I wouldn’t say that’s entirely true I’m talking about the amount of nits the display can push out instabiel when in HDR mode. I have seen several different HDR monitors in my life, and I definitely do see the different capabilities some monitors can have.
I have a friend who has a so called HDR monitor but it’s only with HDR 600 and comparing that for example to an ASUS ROG PG32UQX on the brightness alone in HDR it is a whole different game. There is so much more pop going on than on a monitor that does not has that amount of brightness. Granted that monitor has many other problems of course but it’s HDR capabilities are excellent.
And sure, brightness in HDR mode is not everything you have many other things to look out for when talking about an HDR monitor (see the HDR checklist from Monitors Unboxed) but brightness is definitely a contributing factor to showing important things on screen that need extra illumination
such monitors appeared last year. samsung neo g7 and g8-hdr 2000
@@anonim92t yeah but they didn’t really have that because that 2000 wasn’t sustained (which I didn’t expect anyway) and second of all it wasn’t even sustained 1000 if I remember which is kinda the minimum from what I personally want and also there were many other things with those monitors that didn’t check my checklist unfortunately. Hopefully next year :)
@@emiel255 yes
wait... this might be it! a wide color gamut, high refresh rate 27" 4K monitor... all I need is that anti-glare nonsense coating removed and i'd order this right now.
as someone who does wedding photography / filmmaking as well as gaming on the side... this would be nice ngl
It's good to see more monitors supporting power delivery of 60W+, which is perfect for adding a laptop for work purposes. There's a lot of monitors with USB C without power delivery, or with useless amounts of power like 15W, requiring the user to separately connect power.
No KVM switch on this one is a killer though.
So when you use one of the OLEDs, they are able to switch automatically to SDR when you exit an HDR game or stop watching HDR movie ? Also one thing I'm always wondering... when a game has built-in option to enable HDR, do you still need to enable the windows HDR slider or not ? HDR is a huge mess for me...
This is something I'm also curious about. If anyone has an answer (based on previous HUB videos or personal experience), I'd love your input!
I use an LG C3 42" as my PC monitor and play in HDR a lot but use windows in SDR. There is a shortcut for Win 10/11 Windows key+ Alt+B that turns HDR on and off within windows. When you do this the display automatically goes to HDR game mode. Then you launch your game and most games that support HDR will recognize that it is enabled in wondows and the HDR mode will be turned on. Usually in most games you can asjust the brightness and contrast and such in HDR mode like you can in Cyberpunk and Mass Effect etc. Hope this helped.
HDR is a mess with windows as you need to manually turn it on or off dependent on the application as certain images will wash out badly.
I wonder this too. I thought that once you turn on HDR in the windows options the display will automatically pick it up, but won't be able to distinguish between an sdr youtube video and an hdr movie. At least that is what happens with my samsung tv which is vesa hdr 1000. As soon as I turn on hdr in windows it switches to hdr and it doesn't detect if the content i'm watching is hdr or not
yes, but what if the app/game has its own HDR slider@@martytube821
Was originally planning on getting the neo g8 but its a bit out of my budget,figured this was the next best thing
14:15 Yeah, I wish Windows wasn't so annoying with HDR. It's crazy how much better consoles and TVs are at this. When I start up an HDR game on my TV, it goes into HDR mode. If the game doesn't have HDR, it stays in the SDR colour space. On Windows, you always have to turn off HDR after gaming because SDR doesn't look right with it constantly enabled. It's so annoying.
i see this mentioned a lot but the only difference i can tell between SDR and SDR tonemapped in HDR is the gamma (i run custom 2.4 in SDR and in HDR it sets 2.2 and i cant change it)
is this more of an issue with LCDs? (tho not being able to just switch with the windows shortcut but having to go though the OSD seems like a terrible implementation by this specific screen)
@@MKR3238 Black levels for SDK are also wrong. It also tonemaps all content to sRGB, even if you are viewing Rec 709 content, like TV shows and TH-cam videos.
The tonemapping is bad, there is just no excuse for it.
Hey Tim. Could you comment on fan noise? I'm assuming that because it has an FALD setup there is a cooling fan? How noticeable is the noise? I'm not too worried for gaming as I wear headphones, but I often listen to music and watch YT via speakers. I used to own an X27 and the fan was a little too noticeable for comfort.
I just returned this monitor a couple days ago. There is a fan running, and it runs constantly. It shouldn't be noticeable if you have any other audio playing, but it will never be truly silent if you're looking for that at times. I returned it because I just couldn't deal with the exagerated blooming in dark game scenes and all the OSD/input weirdness of the monitor. The price is insanely good at $550, but I ended up switching to a 32" monitor and am so far enjoying it a lot more.
@@alexgifford5895 Thanks for the feedback. I'm not looking for it to be silent fortunately, so it sounds like the fan is at a bearable level. The old X27's fan was a little too intrusive sometimes. :D
For sure, you'll be fine if you have any speakers or headphones playing. Hopefully they can put out some sort of update for the firmware and OSD stuff, because that was the most annoying part of the monitor for me. I'm not even somebody who changes monitor settings very often, but there was just a lot of weird little firmware things going on with the monitor that I decided it wasn't worth keeping.
@@Daemon_Wraith
I have had one for months. I didn’t know there was a fan. I’ve used it in a dead quiet environment too.
@@Keivz Even better. :D
do you guys plan on doing a review of the XV275UP3 ?
eitherway I appreciate the review as there is hardly any information on this monitor or the above mentioned XV275UP3, let alone reliable reviews like the ones provided by you guys :)
Got this monitor on sale and turned HDR on and forgot about it. My husband has a Neo G8 and the picture on this Acer competes with that easily. I agree the OSD is terrible, but it definitely does not make the monitor unusable. It's definitely worth buying at the sale price.
*Can you please review an ACTUALLY GOOD ACER MONITOR instead of just the bad ones???*
Like the Acer XV282K
Huh, I have that monitor and am considering returning it for this because of proper local dimming, higher refresh rate and wider color gamut. What's the downside?
Im pretty sure the xv275K isnt bad
R u also going to look at mini-leds from KTC & INNOCN, or the AOC Q27G3XMN?
P.S. I would really appreciate!
He did look at the q27g3xmn. Less color accurate and worse eotf tracking. But it's contrast is a lot better
Got this Black Friday weekend at 5:50.
Only complaints I have are the best amount is too deep for my arm so I've got to figure something out for that and like you said I really don't like the buttons and the OSD
Got this for 4099HKD (523.35 USD/490.83 EUR/815.94 AUD) and I just leave HDR mode on, did not regret
3:21 it kinda has a kvm. You can switch if the USB ports passthrough to USB b or the USB c cable. Wouldn't call it a kvm for sure though
How does that work? My use case is work laptop and a PC. If switch the source will the monitor automatically switch keyboard and mouse as well?
I wish you'd list HDR resolution in addition to zone count. A panel with a 10x6 HDR resolution (for 60 zones) might offer something, while an edge-lit panel with a 30x2 resolution wouldn't.
Hi Tim, can you please test the 1440p VA version of this monitor the Acer XV275U P3?
Wow Go ACER!
Do you know if there is any meaningful differences between the Msi g274qpf-QD and the "non QD" variant?
I see multiple retailers selling the Non-QD variant, often times a lot cheaper and on sale for as low as $200.
I looked up speca and manuals and don't see any differencee between the QD and non QD variant in terms of brightness, color, speed.
The 32" InnoCN 32M2V with 1156 zones is only $600 now
Also, what coating does it have? semi-gloss or matte?
Hi,I would appreciate it sooooo much if you made a review for the Lg GR75Q-B 1440p 165hz monitor. I have been thinking of buying it, but I am not sure about the performance of it. It seems too good to be true. You see in my country it costs 280€.
What would you recommend between this and Samsung neo g7 32"? I wouldn't mind the osd. Really looking for good/great HDR and good response time. Console gaming mostly, around the same price this black Friday.
Can you please review the The Predator XB323QK? I’m struggling to decide which of the 32” monitors to buy between it and the Samsung odyssey neo g7. They’re literally both the same price rn
Strange, but a reviewer from usatoday said the opposite about local dimming artifacts: he noticed flickering, hue shifts and backlight delays on Acer, and Cooler Master offers "better experience all around" (nothing in details). Have anyone faced with such a problems with Acer?
Nice looking monitor but I really want a 32" 4K monitor with a minimum of this level of performance. Just needs a better build quality with hopefully a firmware update
Neo g7?
I sorta said the same thing. 699 for a 27" is kinda meh, 32" is recommended for that price point
For Super Sharpness in HDR mode, I don't know why the text is clearer when I leave it enabled. Therefore, I think you don't need to change the Super Sharpness setting in HDR.
Can you guys please test the AOC Q27G3XMN? It’s under $300, mini led, 180hz flat va panel with hdr1000 supposedly. I wanna get one but would love to see your opinion on it first
Are you able to pitch the screen up or down? I have an elevated setup to help my neck so I need to pitch my monitor down a little.
I just saw the ad of this monitor and got very interested in it, this video sure do come in clutch!
Nice review. It's good to see HDR monitors getting cheaper. :D
HDR is garbage, just disable it
@@drunkhusband6257 That's only true on bad HDR screens .I have OLED TV with HDR and it's great.
Currently looking at buying a 2nd monitor for my setup. Would love a video about monitors purely for media consumption/workflow and advice about 1440p or 4k resolutions for that application! So cheapest monitors one could buy without all the gaming specs, that provide good enough visuals. Just a video idea :)
I mean get this one, leave it in HDR and have fun
@@marrow94 Makes no sense to buy a 550$ monitor for a secondary, not to me anyways. And you dont need low latency nor high refresh rate if you wont game on it
Just returned the M27U and got this and oh my god , it s a night and day difference. I really don t know why people are not recommending this monitor more .
Considering this monitor. How you liking it?
@@its_ohhrite For me it s simply amazing , i m not a monitor freak , i just wanted something that works great out of the box with office and also gaming . And this is in my opinion the best option . I cannot justify spending more than this on a monitor.
@@Kadoom1131I have a usecase to switch between usb c and display port. Though it does not have kvm, can the same keyboard and mouse be used?
@@hemanthkrishna5343 I don t understand your question . What does the monitor have to do with the mouse and keyboard ?
@@Kadoom1131 I meant the kvm functionality. Since this monitor does not come with one are there any workarounds? Also do you find the settings like brightness or anything basic reset frequently and you have to change it everytime? I have seen many reports of that.
Great to see more mini led
Do you think i should wait for the MSI G274QPX to get back in stock (from AUS) or get a different 240hz 1440p gaming monitor. Thank you
Do you think that I should wait for a budget 1440p 240hz monitor because in most stores around australia s a lot of the main ones such as the MSI G274QPX are out of stock, or if I should buy now, and if so which one
Should I go with this one or the AOC Agon Pro AG274QZM? the difference in resolution is no problem, just want the one that performs better
5:27 Wait what??? How does ambient temperature affect Overdrive performance?????
About the HDR issue. Couldn’t you just leave the HDR on auto on the monitor, and then just enable/disable HDR in windows?
just curious, are you guys gonna test the BenQ EX270QM?
Finally a miniLED and it seems great too! Finally HDR in the hands of people at decent prices :) let’s hope the prices drop next year too!
Connect a PS5 and leave autoHDR On and you won’t need to go back and forth in the OSD settings
Looks decent, my only concern is the blooming, can you do some kind of test how bad it is? Thanks
Unreal that all the HDR toggle issues I have on my XV273K live on. Especially annoying that freesync disables itself on that one when going back to SDR.
Outstanding review, its nice to see actual HDR monitors coming down to reasonable prices. I'll personally wait a little longer to make the jump when the compromises are tolerable. I do have a question that probably should have been asked on one of your other videos, but I just remembered it when you mentioned locked overdrive controls. I just got the Gigabyte M27q Pro on black Friday, but noticed that overdrive controls are locked in sRGB mode. This confuses me since its the most accurate to my eyes so I use it 95% of the time including gaming, even though the brightness is pretty low. Your review shows it not having a single overdrive mode so I am wondering what picture mode I should gaming in? I looked for the answer everywhere with no concrete advise. Am I not supposed to be gaming in that mode since its controls are locked? I'll welcome insight from anyone with a similar monitor, thanks.
Hope we start getting some 34”ultra wide mini led monitors, instead of OLED
Apparently the overdrive setting in vrr just uses the last overdrive setting chosen before turning vrr on.
Also, fwiw, 160 hz is not the default since it uses a higher level of dsc. If you enable it over and above 144 hz, say goodbye to dldsr (at least in a dual monitor setup).
Oh well. Its a 4K 27" panel so who needs dldsr on it. Im curious if it will overclock to 180Hz.
Local dimming not working well with SDR is a deal breaker for me. FALD shouldn't just be about HDR but better contrast for SDR as well :(
What do you suggest?
What kind of longevity do the monitors have?
Hey so is this usabel for photo/video editing?
It’s hard to find a monitor that has 4k 120 and is usabel for editing, are any out there? Pls help 🙏🏽
Would you consider reviewing the Acer XF243Y? It is a 180hz 1080p panel that i just picked up for $100. I think a lot of super budget buyers could be interested :)
Just picked up an Acer certified refurb unit on eBay for $306, sounds like it’ll be well worth that
Can you make a review for the nzxt canvas 27q? 😊
i mean, are there any competitors? Market certainly lacks proper 27" 4k displays with good local dimming. (ASUS, looking in your side)
did you ever find the answer to this im thinking of getting this one its 500 for black friday sale at bestbuy
What about blur busters motion clarity results for this monitor?
Any plans to test the new Lenovo ultrawide mini-LED monitor?
How is the Acer Nitro XV322QKKV ? Or is this monitor similar ?
there is also a 1440p VA version, hope you get that one too
Nah 👎
Great video, but as you explain the problems with edge lit panels I see the problems with my monitor. lol
This lovely review really saved me from buying this flawed product.
I'll wait for the new monitors in 2024.
@Monitors Unboxed: any reason why you never reviewed one of the most interesting mini LED on the market? The Acer Predator X32FP?
Why is it interesting?
What monitor would you recommend for ps5
can someome explain why brightness controls are disabled in srgb mode on like every monitor ever thanks
Is PrismPlus not a thing in Australia?
If I connect my macbook with usb-c would I be able to use the usbs on the monitor as a hub automatically
This is an AMAZING price for the monitor specs on show ... but I'm only just under 2 minutes in.
I might sell one of my current monitors for this!
Hello guys, AOC 24'' IPS 24G2SPAE/BK Monitor or IIYAMA G-MASTER 24" IPS GB2470HSU-B5 Monitor ? Which one has better input lag and better for gaming?
Anyone know if this will come to the uk?