Great video! You can scribe your birds mouth using a block of wood with the rafter resting where you want it. This is a much easier and more accurate way.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I am not a carpenter. I am DYI about to start building a shed and have watched many (too many LOL) videos about how to frame a roof on a shed. All of them were difficult for me to understand. Your video was the only one that made sense to me. Now I feel comfortable framing my roof. Again-thank you.
Glad it was helpful, Joseph! If you get stuck on any other parts of the build, feel free to check out my other shed videos. Thanks for supporting the channel and good luck with your shed!
Thank you Andrew for your clear and detailed explanation of how to do birdsmouth on rafters . Will be doing it tomorrow and you’ve made me understand what to do. 🤗
@@AndrewThronImprovements How long of overhang do you have on the high end? Do you have to worry about snow load? I want to have a 3' overhang of my shed-style roof rafters that are 16" apart and 2x8's. Will this have enough support for load in winter?
You are genius. The Thron Brothers Team are a hit. Such insightful tips too. I might have just screened the openings instead of placing timber there. You make it look so easy too. Can't wait for the next one.
I used this video to put the roof on my chicken coop. Thanks for sharing this info! I’ve never done carpentry but my coop turned out awesome in part thanks to your video.
That's exactly why I am here. Finished leveling the land for my coop and run today. Getting material this weekend to start the build. It will have a single pitched roof like this but I have never done any carpentry either and the roof seems tricky.
Thank you for guiding everyone in detail the process of making and constructing a beautiful and very modern warehouse. The drawings are very complete and detailed. Best regards
A much easier way of doing the birds mouth cut is to use an off-cut of your top plate timber (half thickness) and just draw it onto your rafter when you've decided the overhang on each side of the shed while your timber is on the roof, cut your two notches out and trace every other one from that first piece.
@@thefishingmusicians Genius level comment. Of course it is, not the same amount of time taken though. I literally provided an easier method, because it's the same difference.
In each similar video, showing dances with a Swenson square I see a comment you made :))) But they still filming these videos explaining a pitch meaning and birds things.
Great video, I'm about to build a shed and was unsure about the birdsmouth cuts on the rafters, so this really helps. I'll also need to get me a pair of your steel toe-capped crocs as well...
In the video, the rafter blocking on the back wall was on the inner side of the top plate, not the “outermost” like you narrated. Am I misunderstanding?
@@AndrewThronImprovements I did notice that with your rafters you didn't (or failed to mention) cut the ends at the angle to make them perpendicular to the ground. Was that by preference or design, or is that something that's not super important? Just curious.
@@TimStJohn-xp8rv I mean you could set the rafter up without tacking it in and use the square before bring it back down for a cut. Then you just trace the birds mouth and all the other ends on every rafter. Then go hang it up. Probly he didnt do for all the extra cuts and time it takes to do that. Im sure its just for aesthetic mostly.
@@prestontripp9891 I guess I am referring to the flat cut for the soffit at the end of the tail. If that makes sense, I've only seen it demonstrated a few times and now I can't find a video that shows how to come up with that cut.
Fellas, I'm sorry I keep coming this way, but misinformation can cause injury. The sheathing is supposed to be staggered like bricks to tie the whole structure together giving extra strength as well as being the truest way to bring your building into square. So far besides the screws which I've already mentioned is awesome! Keep it up guys!
I'm no expert but was thinking the same, as every roof I have done, we did it that way. Also I wonder how many Sharpie pens he goes through in a day marking full width for every rafter, joist and stud!
Hello Andres. I enjoyed watching your video with very good detail in everything you did. I also really like the sides of that ice cream truck. 🍦☺. Thanks Very much for your work.👍
@@kylerrichmeier5892 What about the plywood not running across all the rafters? What about plywood clips?? He is young... but no excuse!!! I am building a 14x32 foot 3 story that I am going to video and put up this Summer of 2023!! Bidge over the Wolf River Tiny Lodge!! PeAcE
That triangle tool is a Speed Square, sometimes called a rafter square, but the more common name is Speed Square. The larger two arm thing is a Carpenter Square or Framing Square.
Excellent Presentation, thank you for sharing! Can you please tell me how we would place a single-pitched roof on wooden walls at 3 of its points and the fourth one made of bricks, but none of the sides have a 90 degree angle? I have made a rough drawing in sketchup if you want to study it better! I would be happy to learn more.
Great video! I'm starting to plan an lean to addition my garage and this video is extremely helpful. One question: What software did you use to create your design? Thanks!
Do you know your speed square that bottom notch you can draw your birds mouth after you pivot it instead of switching to the frame square each time just speeds it up some
Hello Andrew, I purchased your shed house and it's great. I am wondering if the 10x10 dimensions could be modified for say a 10x7 shed as I'm limited on how much room I have for the depth of the shed?
I was waiting for the part to see how to install the side pieces of studs from the high to low. From the side plates to to the roof joists or rafters. I guess next time. Great video though
are you able to explain crown up and down a little better? I understand crowning when the board is flat. How are you able to tell what the crown should look like when your board is upright? Thanks for any insight!!
When nailing the roof ply make sure you do 6 inch between the nails on the seams and 12 inch in the center you can do closer spacing but not further also cut the ends of your rafters level vertically to prevent your gutter guy from laughing at you later
Hello, nice instructions, thank you, especially about the birdsmouth which seems complicated. I have a few questions. My tallest wall, of slant roof shed is only 7.2 before rafters. How high up should my siding go to ...if it does not go to the top of the top plate what fills in that space? Secondly i am using screws to frame my shed,( I don't have a nailer) can i use screws to attach the siding? Lastly do you use any sealers, caulking or flashing etc. when installing the siding or is it simply just nail it (screw) on? Thank you Andrew!
Great video, subscribed. One question: You installed the blocking at the edge of the top plate. I agree that will look better, but aren't you worried about ventilation? Are you planning to insulate this space and do you have a ventilation plan?
How do you insulate the roof in your design? Since there is no ridge, as in a roof with a gable, there is no ridge vent. Are there no vents installed on the lower or upper sections of the roof, and if that's the case, does insulation take up the entire thickness/height of the rafters/joists? My roof doesn't have a ceiling frame, as the roof is the ceiling. To have additional natural lighting, I have casement windows in the raised area, so I can't install a ceiling frame. Thank you.
Blocking needs to be flushed with the outside top plate, not inside. And the number one rule in sheathing is you never break on one stud/rafter/joists.
A 12-foot roof span needs at the most 8 rafters at 16-inch centres. Are you planning on parking a garden tractor on your roof? Your roof is overkill. Specially at the price of lumber these days. Most sheds are built at 24-inch centres, but16-inch is better.
you dont need pressure treated for the rafters unless they will be exposed to the elements, if properly sealed, there shouldnt be any water penetration
Any tips for a guy with no speed square i gotta do this today and the hardware store doesn't have a speed square and im back at work tomorrow so wont have another chance for a couple of weeks and snow is coming lol
The narration says to put the blocking on the outer-most edge of the top plate, but the video shows it being applied to the inner-most edge. Which is correct ?
Appreciate it! From my research, you usually need to get a permit if you don't have an existing structure in place. Since I already had a shed and slab on my property survey, I was technically replacing in-kind.
i was looking for a comment that asked what software have you used for the plans but couldn't find one so , Andrew what is the name of that software ? :D
Should’ve cut the rafter tails to match the roof pitch, and you should’ve staggered the seams of the plywood and installed h clips. Otherwise great set up!
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This was so easy to follow. No BS, no wasting time. Engaging and dumbed down just enough for a non professional. Thank you.
This was great! I only had to watch once while taking a few notes and then was off making my first Birdsmouth cuts. Thank you Andrew!
Great video! You can scribe your birds mouth using a block of wood with the rafter resting where you want it. This is a much easier and more accurate way.
This helps a lot I’m trying to build a bigger shed for my dad since his current shed is getting cluttered with all our projects
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I am not a carpenter. I am DYI about to start building a shed and have watched many (too many LOL) videos about how to frame a roof on a shed. All of them were difficult for me to understand. Your video was the only one that made sense to me. Now I feel comfortable framing my roof. Again-thank you.
Glad it was helpful, Joseph! If you get stuck on any other parts of the build, feel free to check out my other shed videos. Thanks for supporting the channel and good luck with your shed!
Thank you Andrew for your clear and detailed explanation of how to do birdsmouth on rafters . Will be doing it tomorrow and you’ve made me understand what to do. 🤗
Hi Maria! I'm glad it helped! I hope your project turned out great and thanks for watching!
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@@AndrewThronImprovements How long of overhang do you have on the high end? Do you have to worry about snow load? I want to have a 3' overhang of my shed-style roof rafters that are 16" apart and 2x8's. Will this have enough support for load in winter?
Thanks!
Really appreciate it! Good luck with your build!
You are genius. The Thron Brothers Team are a hit. Such insightful tips too. I might have just screened the openings instead of placing timber there. You make it look so easy too. Can't wait for the next one.
Thanks for the continue support, Patrick. Ryan and I sincerely appreciate it!
that's beautiful I'm gonna build my own shed you have me motivated mate
I used this video to put the roof on my chicken coop. Thanks for sharing this info! I’ve never done carpentry but my coop turned out awesome in part thanks to your video.
Glad it helped Eric! Also glad your chicken coop turned out well. Thanks for the comment 🙏
That's exactly why I am here. Finished leveling the land for my coop and run today. Getting material this weekend to start the build. It will have a single pitched roof like this but I have never done any carpentry either and the roof seems tricky.
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What software or app do you use to draw up your projects? Your work and designs are excellent!
Thanks… I was just building my shed this morning and this video popped up tonight… great break down
A superB build man, you must have tried really hard doing this, thanks for posting, I'mma build something like this, so inspiring.
Thank you for guiding everyone in detail the process of making and constructing a beautiful and very modern warehouse. The drawings are very complete and detailed. Best regards
Glad it helped!
A much easier way of doing the birds mouth cut is to use an off-cut of your top plate timber (half thickness) and just draw it onto your rafter when you've decided the overhang on each side of the shed while your timber is on the roof, cut your two notches out and trace every other one from that first piece.
its the same difference.
@@thefishingmusicians Genius level comment. Of course it is, not the same amount of time taken though. I literally provided an easier method, because it's the same difference.
In each similar video, showing dances with a Swenson square I see a comment you made :)))
But they still filming these videos explaining a pitch meaning and birds things.
@@alexbowser9801 I think you're mistaken and delusional.
I just made this same comment. Makes birds mouth easier and more accurate.
Thank you so much for this! I was trying to find clear instructions for the birdsmouth cuts.
Your a genius at teaching. 👏 very useful and easy to understand. Thanks!
Great video, I'm about to build a shed and was unsure about the birdsmouth cuts on the rafters, so this really helps. I'll also need to get me a pair of your steel toe-capped crocs as well...
It would make a beautiful tiny house.
I hope to build one soon using this shed as the basis. Thanks for watching! Appreciate the support!
In the video, the rafter blocking on the back wall was on the inner side of the top plate, not the “outermost” like you narrated. Am I misunderstanding?
You helped me put a slanted roof on my pergola with this video! Thanks bro!💯💪🏾
Great video! Good camera angle ! Keep up the good work! 👍
Im going to be building a shed very much like this one and this video has been nearly flawless! thank you.
Glad it helped, Preston! Good luck with your build!
@@AndrewThronImprovements I did notice that with your rafters you didn't (or failed to mention) cut the ends at the angle to make them perpendicular to the ground. Was that by preference or design, or is that something that's not super important? Just curious.
@@prestontripp9891 I am wondering how that's done while on the ground!
@@TimStJohn-xp8rv I mean you could set the rafter up without tacking it in and use the square before bring it back down for a cut. Then you just trace the birds mouth and all the other ends on every rafter. Then go hang it up. Probly he didnt do for all the extra cuts and time it takes to do that. Im sure its just for aesthetic mostly.
@@prestontripp9891 I guess I am referring to the flat cut for the soffit at the end of the tail. If that makes sense, I've only seen it demonstrated a few times and now I can't find a video that shows how to come up with that cut.
Fellas, I'm sorry I keep coming this way, but misinformation can cause injury. The sheathing is supposed to be staggered like bricks to tie the whole structure together giving extra strength as well as being the truest way to bring your building into square. So far besides the screws which I've already mentioned is awesome! Keep it up guys!
I'm no expert but was thinking the same, as every roof I have done, we did it that way. Also I wonder how many Sharpie pens he goes through in a day marking full width for every rafter, joist and stud!
Hello Andres. I enjoyed watching your video with very good detail in everything you did. I also really like the sides of that ice cream truck. 🍦☺. Thanks Very much for your work.👍
Thanks for your video was a lot of help on my project
Thanks for the details on this. You forgot to angle cut your rafter ends 12 degrees.
It’s a style of keeping it that way
Agreed, the water will run down the fascia and streak, and then rot the underneath.
I'm going to try to do a similar one . Perfect job u have done my respects 👍👍👍
Thanks, mate. A very good upload
Thanks so much for the video and ideas because of you I did my own
Great video! He really explains everything. Thank you for that!
Glad it helped you out! Thanks for watching!
In the future, when tracing a template, you would want to cut on the outside part of the line.
Great video!
Thanks!
Why didn't you cut the tails of the rafters to match the pitch of the roof?
WAs wondering the same thing, easy to drop a vertical chalk line on a plumb bob or just use a level to mark that line?
All the difficulty of cutting birds without making the facia verticle hahahaha love it
@@kylerrichmeier5892 What about the plywood not running across all the rafters? What about plywood clips?? He is young... but no excuse!!! I am building a 14x32 foot 3 story that I am going to video and put up this Summer of 2023!! Bidge over the Wolf River Tiny Lodge!! PeAcE
@@LocalTradesman no one cares
@@LocalTradesman you only need clips if you have longer than 16c joists. I don't know if he spaced them 1/8" though. I couldn't tell
Well done sir.
Thanks!
Fantastic video well done thank you ! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I like your videos keep it up
That triangle tool is a Speed Square, sometimes called a rafter square, but the more common name is Speed Square. The larger two arm thing is a Carpenter Square or Framing Square.
Awesome mate👍
dude, ive seen do many videos explaining about rafters where I always find it hard, but you explained it so easily. appreciate it
Check out the channel Training Hands Academy if you need a better understanding of building rafters
Great work !
Thanks Liz - appreciate it!
Great job! What program did you use to draw your plans?
Damn, son!! Now that's nice!! Great job! And thx for the vid!
I appreciate it! Thanks so much for watching!
Excellent Presentation, thank you for sharing! Can you please tell me how we would place a single-pitched roof on wooden walls at 3 of its points and the fourth one made of bricks, but none of the sides have a 90 degree angle?
I have made a rough drawing in sketchup if you want to study it better!
I would be happy to learn more.
Damn homeboy✊🏿💪🏾🙌🏾
If you make the seat cut the wall thickness + the thickkness of the sheathing, you won't have to notch around the rafters.
So, the final siding would slide up behind them?
roof framing a shed in crocs, mad ting
After all that measuring and marking, I was sure you were going to cut it with lasers or something. Great video
Thanks Bro !
Good video
Use nails on your hurricane ties. They are much stronger then screws for shear forces.
Next time chase the Ice cream truck!! LOL!!
Thanks for sharing!!
Haha next time for sure. Thanks for watching!
So when you put all the crowns up, does it matter if they face outside or inside the wall?
Thank you for the great video
What did you use for your blue print is it a certain app?
Merci ! Les techniques sont très bien expliquées.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Are the cut outs in the pivot ruler not the line you need for the seat mark instead of using a second ruler? I'm only asking, never used one.
Yes, but only on some speed-squares, not all.
very well explained 👍
Great video! I'm starting to plan an lean to addition my garage and this video is extremely helpful. One question: What software did you use to create your design? Thanks!
Do you know your speed square that bottom notch you can draw your birds mouth after you pivot it instead of switching to the frame square each time just speeds it up some
اسمح هذا السقف بهذا الشكل يعني لا نحتاج لسقف كلاسيكي .؟
Hello Andrew, I purchased your shed house and it's great. I am wondering if the 10x10 dimensions could be modified for say a 10x7 shed as I'm limited on how much room I have for the depth of the shed?
I was waiting for the part to see how to install the side pieces of studs from the high to low. From the side plates to to the roof joists or rafters. I guess next time. Great video though
Thx for sharing
For joining the front facial boards to the roof rafter would it be more secure to pocket screw the ends of the roof rafter? Would it be overkill
are you able to explain crown up and down a little better? I understand crowning when the board is flat. How are you able to tell what the crown should look like when your board is upright? Thanks for any insight!!
When nailing the roof ply make sure you do 6 inch between the nails on the seams and 12 inch in the center you can do closer spacing but not further also cut the ends of your rafters level vertically to prevent your gutter guy from laughing at you later
Hello, nice instructions, thank you, especially about the birdsmouth which seems complicated. I have a few questions. My tallest wall, of slant roof shed is only 7.2 before rafters. How high up should my siding go to ...if it does not go to the top of the top plate what fills in that space? Secondly i am using screws to frame my shed,( I don't have a nailer) can i use screws to attach the siding? Lastly do you use any sealers, caulking or flashing etc. when installing the siding or is it simply just nail it (screw) on? Thank you Andrew!
Did you put something along side the last rafter before the side fachia?
Do you need ceiling josts? I am building the same thing. I'm done but now wondering if I need ceiling joists going from wall to wall.
what type/size of fasteners did you use for each part of the build
Great video, subscribed. One question: You installed the blocking at the edge of the top plate. I agree that will look better, but aren't you worried about ventilation? Are you planning to insulate this space and do you have a ventilation plan?
He doesn't reply to comments but since you're asking you already know the answer.
@@mattiefattie3895 I don't follow. I'm asking because I don't know the answer. Care to help out?
@@owenwiseman6112 the ventilation question
curious if you would do anything different if the same shed was being built as a 14 x 14?
Nice job
I appreciate it! Thanks so much for watching!!
How do you insulate the roof in your design? Since there is no ridge, as in a roof with a gable, there is no ridge vent. Are there no vents installed on the lower or upper sections of the roof, and if that's the case, does insulation take up the entire thickness/height of the rafters/joists? My roof doesn't have a ceiling frame, as the roof is the ceiling. To have additional natural lighting, I have casement windows in the raised area, so I can't install a ceiling frame. Thank you.
I mike build my Shed Like this One 👍😂👍
Una pregunta como buscas la medida de la pared mas alta con las medidas que tienes en el video
Notice how the slot your thumb is on is already in the correct position to mark the seat line? that's not an accident ;) No framing square required
Are you talking about the diamond? Can you explain this, or link a video? I guess I'll have to read my Swanson speed square book ;)
What kind of cad are you using! This is an amazing build!!!
Thanks - it's Sketchup (free version)!
Your blocking is placed on the INNER most edge of the topplate - not the outermost. Correct?
Blocking was placed on the Inner most edge, correct. Sorry about that.
Blocking needs to be flushed with the outside top plate, not inside.
And the number one rule in sheathing is you never break on one stud/rafter/joists.
What program dud you design the shed in?
Or you could just temporarily attach rafter to side of wall & scribe both birds mouth for a template. This is what builders do.
Is the wood all pressure treated?
A 12-foot roof span needs at the most 8 rafters at 16-inch centres. Are you planning on parking a garden tractor on your roof? Your roof is overkill. Specially at the price of lumber these days.
Most sheds are built at 24-inch centres, but16-inch is better.
maybe he has a snow load to worry about?
Lmfao
Did you use pressure treated wood for the rafters and top plates. If yes, did you let them dry out first?
you dont need pressure treated for the rafters unless they will be exposed to the elements, if properly sealed, there shouldnt be any water penetration
@@bv0211 Thank you so much for the info
Hello. How much do you pay for a rafter? I have to admit we don't do the birdsmouth anymore. We use brute force( big nails and some conecting rods).
please someone what's the program used for layouts and building design that Andrew uses? THANKS!!
Standard rafter spacing is 16" center. Plenty strong enough.
Any tips for a guy with no speed square i gotta do this today and the hardware store doesn't have a speed square and im back at work tomorrow so wont have another chance for a couple of weeks and snow is coming lol
Oh man.. haha. You might just have to eyeball it until you get a “template” rafter that looks about right. Good luck!
Is that platform attached to the concrete? What is the difference between building the platform or setting it on the concrete?
The narration says to put the blocking on the outer-most edge of the top plate, but the video shows it being applied to the inner-most edge. Which is correct ?
Also wondering the same thing
where did you get the 3 windows for the top
Love your content. Do you need any kind of permit to build something like this where you live?
Appreciate it! From my research, you usually need to get a permit if you don't have an existing structure in place. Since I already had a shed and slab on my property survey, I was technically replacing in-kind.
are you using sketchup?
i was looking for a comment that asked what software have you used for the plans but couldn't find one so , Andrew what is the name of that software ? :D
what is your shed height in front?
U didn’t cut the rafter tails at an angle? Or plumb cut I think it is called?
What size of wood you use for the raptors
Are those 2 by 4
what soft you used for shed build?
Sketchup!
@@AndrewThronImprovements tnks🙏
Should’ve cut the rafter tails to match the roof pitch, and you should’ve staggered the seams of the plywood and installed h clips. Otherwise great set up!
Deck screws aren't permitted for hurricane ties. Are you in a wind-zone?