I agree with the Saucony Endorphin Shift 3 and the Tempus. They have been some of my most used shoes as well. Two others that are good stabilty daily trainers are the Puma Forever Run Nitro (softer with some bounce) and the New Balance Vongo V5 (firmer).
ASICS S4 i think is a good racing shoe for people with stability needs. I hope you'll be able to grab one (though its only available in Japan). cant seem to find lots of review about it.
Haven’t tried the Shift but the Powerrun PB is awesome in the Tempus and I love the shoe- also have the Endorphin Pro3 - the carbon plate adds a surprising level of stability- great for pronation in races!
Super shoes I agree with, I also think the saucony Elite is a good option for some stability, mid foot does narrow but has strong sidewalls on medial and lateral side through rear and mid foot , firmer HG foam and wide forefoot makes this a stable ride for me
A good insight, thanks. I have the gel kayano 30 and like you say i do find it a little mushy and find it hard to pick up my legs when i start to get tired on longer runs. Looking at something a bit firmer underfoot so guide 16 or 860v13 seem like they could be the thing i'm looking for. I did try the hoka arahi and despite going for the extra wide fitting (i am a 'normal'width) i still had trouble with them digging into my arch. How do the 860's & guide fit in the midfoot?
Unfortunately the Kayano 30 in my opinion and experience the last 6 months… the foam gives out and becomes a bit flat and no bounce compared to the Speed 3
i'm having the same experience with the gel-nimbus right now. it seems the FF Blast+ foam loses its responsiveness and becomes mushy after a certain point. for me it's the 250 mile mark
They are very different shoes with different foam types anyway. Kayano is for recovery or longer slow days. Speed 3 is a versatile daily trainer. And certainly isn't stable!
What’s the deal with Saucony’s soles? The treads are rather flat and I’d wear those shoes out in 6-8 months as compared to my NB1080 which are still acceptable.
Hi Yowana, thank you for the vid. I have heard good things about the NB 860 for long distances (15 - 40Kms) . Someone I was speaking with recently mentioned that they found the Keyano also worked for them for long distances. Do you agree or is there something specific about them that you could suggest I consider, thank you again.
@@blaineblasdell5151What kind of run's do you use the Kinvara Pro for? I have the Endo Pro 3 for races and they have been amazing!! and I'm a stability wearer too. Thx
nice thank you both for the insight. blaine, how did the outsole (or lack thereof) on the kinvara pro hold up for you compared to the shift 3? that's my main concern with it
yeah both of those have elements of mild stability - the speed 3 with the winged nylon plate and the clifton 8 with a slightly wider base. if you want even more stability and like the clifton, the hoka arahi offers a similar ride with more support
I bought Gaviota 5 and Gel Kayano 30 together. I like Gaviota simply because the Gel Kayano gave me dead toenails immediately after a 5 km run. Will check the half size larger version if it will be ok. After 300+ kms, the Gaviota seemed to have become flatter and less cushiony.
Closer to the Kayano than the Tempus. Vongo is on the heavier side with more cushion (38mm heel, 32mm forefoot) - a bit less than the Kayano. Vongo should be good for slow miles, walking and general use - definitely not the first choice for uptempo running
Love the Tempus and on my second pair rotating with the GT 2000, but “tempo” trainer it is not. Uptempo long run at best. Go with the Hyperion Tempo or now GTS. Nailed it with the Shift as a recovery shoe! I put the Kayanos back on the shelf for emergencies now. True recovery paces, not people running easy in a super soft shoe and calling it a recovery. 🤦🏻♀️
LMAO Love these types of comments that offer no constructive feedback or any explanation on their statement. Just a random ass-dribble from Mr69’er and leave it there 😂
I agree with the Saucony Endorphin Shift 3 and the Tempus. They have been some of my most used shoes as well. Two others that are good stabilty daily trainers are the Puma Forever Run Nitro (softer with some bounce) and the New Balance Vongo V5 (firmer).
Can you do an update to this video please???
Great idea - will add to the list!
RIP Saucony Shift. But the Tempus has been my go to tempo day trainer and I've used them for the past 2 marathons!
Great video, just wish you put the names of the shoes on screen as an improvement feedback 👍
Banger after banger? Wow you really outdid yourself today! lol ❤
i got you!
ASICS S4 i think is a good racing shoe for people with stability needs. I hope you'll be able to grab one (though its only available in Japan). cant seem to find lots of review about it.
Agree with everything Yowana just said about the Guide 16 ❤
Haven’t tried the Shift but the Powerrun PB is awesome in the Tempus and I love the shoe- also have the Endorphin Pro3 - the carbon plate adds a surprising level of stability- great for pronation in races!
Super shoes I agree with, I also think the saucony Elite is a good option for some stability, mid foot does narrow but has strong sidewalls on medial and lateral side through rear and mid foot , firmer HG foam and wide forefoot makes this a stable ride for me
A good insight, thanks. I have the gel kayano 30 and like you say i do find it a little mushy and find it hard to pick up my legs when i start to get tired on longer runs. Looking at something a bit firmer underfoot so guide 16 or 860v13 seem like they could be the thing i'm looking for. I did try the hoka arahi and despite going for the extra wide fitting (i am a 'normal'width) i still had trouble with them digging into my arch. How do the 860's & guide fit in the midfoot?
Unfortunately the Kayano 30 in my opinion and experience the last 6 months… the foam gives out and becomes a bit flat and no bounce compared to the Speed 3
i'm having the same experience with the gel-nimbus right now. it seems the FF Blast+ foam loses its responsiveness and becomes mushy after a certain point. for me it's the 250 mile mark
Novablast 3 went dead for me at 150 miles
They are very different shoes with different foam types anyway. Kayano is for recovery or longer slow days. Speed 3 is a versatile daily trainer. And certainly isn't stable!
Totally agree. Mine has 200km on and feels and looks like 900km on them. Very dissapointed.
What’s the deal with Saucony’s soles? The treads are rather flat and I’d wear those shoes out in 6-8 months as compared to my NB1080 which are still acceptable.
Hi Yowana, thank you for the vid. I have heard good things about the NB 860 for long distances (15 - 40Kms) . Someone I was speaking with recently mentioned that they found the Keyano also worked for them for long distances. Do you agree or is there something specific about them that you could suggest I consider, thank you again.
I've heard the Kinvara Pro is a stability-like shoe.
I use stability shoes and get a long well with the Kinvara Pro.
@@blaineblasdell5151What kind of run's do you use the Kinvara Pro for? I have the Endo Pro 3 for races and they have been amazing!! and I'm a stability wearer too. Thx
nice thank you both for the insight. blaine, how did the outsole (or lack thereof) on the kinvara pro hold up for you compared to the shift 3? that's my main concern with it
What the zoom fly 5 should’ve been. Haha.
i really wanted to like the tempus but the high arch kills me.
guide 15/16 great shoes, not the new guide17 and the K30 are way to harsh and used only for walking.
Recently had a gait analysis said I’m a stable neutral runner, I currently run in the speed 3 and Clifton 8s would you say these are suitable?
yeah both of those have elements of mild stability - the speed 3 with the winged nylon plate and the clifton 8 with a slightly wider base. if you want even more stability and like the clifton, the hoka arahi offers a similar ride with more support
@@supwell thank you
Best stability shoe that comes in wide options?
New balance 860 model 2E or 4E. Current version v13. Keeps injuries away from ne.
I bought Gaviota 5 and Gel Kayano 30 together. I like Gaviota simply because the Gel Kayano gave me dead toenails immediately after a 5 km run. Will check the half size larger version if it will be ok.
After 300+ kms, the Gaviota seemed to have become flatter and less cushiony.
endorphin pro 3 is a good choice
Where would you place NB Vongo V6? I currently have the Tempus and Kayano 30
Closer to the Kayano than the Tempus. Vongo is on the heavier side with more cushion (38mm heel, 32mm forefoot) - a bit less than the Kayano. Vongo should be good for slow miles, walking and general use - definitely not the first choice for uptempo running
Love the Tempus and on my second pair rotating with the GT 2000, but “tempo” trainer it is not. Uptempo long run at best. Go with the Hyperion Tempo or now GTS.
Nailed it with the Shift as a recovery shoe! I put the Kayanos back on the shelf for emergencies now. True recovery paces, not people running easy in a super soft shoe and calling it a recovery. 🤦🏻♀️
thanks for the rec on the hyperion gts!
860 seems to be too low stack for long runs?
Kayano, endorphin shift 3 and the new Saucony Omni 22 are good higher stack stability options
@@supwell thanks! How's the foam compared to the Powerrun in Guide 16? Softer or same degree of firmness?
my budget is 80dlls so asics kayano 12😂
Didn't like the video....totally wrong
Thanks for watching - I'd love to hear your shoe recommendations!
Like to elaborate on your choices ?
LMAO
Love these types of comments that offer no constructive feedback or any explanation on their statement.
Just a random ass-dribble from Mr69’er and leave it there 😂