Is that what he's doing here? I disagree. He's explaining the dynamics of what allows humans to cooperate in very large numbers, as distinct from all other species. Where in his talk does his suggest ignoring human dominion?
Agree. He talks about human domination of the planet as if it's our commonly and tacitly understood goal. As if somehow we're winning against the other species in an unspoken but understood competition. The guy must be on the autism-spectrum or have some kind of psychosis. He has a warped understanding of things.
Yes God made the Universe and everything in it and Yuval Nosferatu Harari is going to come face to face with God one day and he will be judged and we all know where he is going to spend eternity.
One of the best teachers in the world without a doubt. There is certainly too much to learn from the course and it's all for free. These people restore my faith in humankind.
I can’t believe these comments. They all have to be bots. No way this many people would agree with this and that god is a fake story. I myself do not believe in god, but still think this guy is insane
God is fake, Soul is real. There is Spirit, in fact the Spirit- Source is the only thing that exist, we are expresions of It. Harari ignores both God and Soul, he is brainwashed by so called ”science” or ”$cience” a better name for these late years. 😀
He is, indeed, insane. He defines 'importance' as having 'an impact on the world'. I don't know how he has the chutzpah to describe himself as a philosopher on his website.
I think he's an over-educated m0r0n, and that his stupidity is most evident when he says, if you cut a person open, you find no rights inside. That said, why do you deceive yourself by pretending you don't believe in God?
None. He makes it up. It's far more imaginary than his belief of human rights. He's really a contradiction to himself. One these wef weasels pushing their agenda. Trying to desensitise people into believing they have no rights.
Dr. Harari makes the type of points during his lectures that simultaneously give an "aha" moment, changing the way one looks at the big questions in life, and, at the same time, make so much sense that it seems at though one should have already realized these points. He has an incredible ability to make difficult concepts easily understood; he is a top notch intellectual and teacher.
Wish he'd have mentioned bartering - the use of items from our objective reality (e.g. antlers, gem stones, furs and onward) and the conversion of these into the basis of a currency system. His referral to finance as a "story" is simplistic. It is surely one of a set of "laws" which allow a human society to develop, another being a judicial system, another being a social care system. Though these "laws" developed out of human imagination they also grew from a necessity.
Well if freedom is fictional and of our imagination then so is slavery too for that matter, Mr. Yuval. Also, money and bartering isn't just of our imagination, its necessary for our survival. Mr. Yuval Noah Harari's definition of imagination is extremely loose and I'm not sure i totally agree with it.
You can't get to 1984's "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" without first defining things as fictional, changeable concepts inside the human mind instead of rigid, objective things existing in objective reality. In fact, you will want to define "objective reality" itself as a myth. Which I'm sure he does somewhere at some point.
I thinkk it was a good course on Coursera but he had too much talk and text and little graphs ,illustrations or animations in his lectures. It was very intreseting !!
Everyone should read his book, "Sapiens." It is such an important and thought provoking book on how we as a society came to be. I was blown away by the amount of times Harari's insights made me challenge my own beliefs and outlook on humankind. An absolutely brilliant scholar and author.
+KaizerDraco easiest way of pretending that you understand something is to either show love or hate. If you understood what he said you would know that there is nothing genius about it. It's just simply a stupid argument full of flaws
+Arthur Roffin I am glad some people took interest on my comment. I will try my best: 1. Cooperation between humans relies much more on knowing one another compare to cooperation of chimps, because humans have much more means for cheating each other. 2. "If you put 1000 humans and 1000 chimps in an island, then humans will definitely win". This is contrary to the natural history. This species of chimps have survived on earth for millions of years, but homo sapiens are much younger. Even if we don't take possible nuclear wars into consideration, if humans don't eradicate chimps, chimps have shown much better skills in getting along and survive. Other examples happen right before our eyes: some neighborhoods in downtown Detroit and cities in nowadays Syria became vacant for different reasons, but insects and rats sill live there, proving that they have better survival skills. 3. Comparing humans and chimps in Wall Street is way too stupid for me to even waste time talking about. Ask me if you need clarification. 4. "You can never convince a chimps to do anything for you." Scientists actually do that everyday all over the world with different animals. Not by promising heaven of course, but with other rewards. 5. Human rights is not a fictional story like religion. Religion is fictional because it has to do with a promise that nobody has ever seen or experienced. Human rights is real because it has to do with freedom, equality, prosperity and other rights that people can feel and compare. Did I say enough?
+Sarah McBeth First, sorry for my english, i m french and i do not talk perfectly well... Well then, i wanted to answer you each of your point but i realise something with your arguments. I think you dont get what Harari wants to say. He just wants to show HOW humans are dominant. Why they are the species today which dominate the others. He doesnt say that humans are more important than chimps. Did you read his book ? He never said that. Anyway i will try to answer each your point. 1. I dont see where Harari is wrong with that. Its what he want to say. 2. He is talking about the Homo Sapiens history, not natural. And again, if you read his book, you will see that he agrees with you. He said that since 2,5 millions years ago, humans can now "control" chimps because they are more organised. He is not even talking about surviving. His MAIN point all the time is: Why Homo Sapiens is controling the Earth ? Its as simple as that. I think you didnt read his book because he talks about survival skills as well. And he agrees saying that rats and other kind of animals will have great chances to survive compare to humans if a asteroid explodes the Earth. He is just talking about "domination" not surviving. And only on the Homo Sapiens period (so 2,5 millions years), not the entire Earth history. 3. Well same thing than the second point. He is talking about organisation, how Humans can cooperate in great numbers. He is not even talking about surviving again... 4. Yeah other "material" rewards whereas humans can imagine bigger things (religions, states, nations) to be millions indivualds beings to live toghether. That's what he wants to say. Again, his main speech is about how humans control the Earth. He just tries to explain in this other example that chimps cant have as imagination as humans. Well on that point, we are not sure, i agree... we cant be sure. But the fact is that today, humans can live in a group of 66 millions people in France for example whereas chimps cant because they cant believe all toghether in a same fictionnal thing (as the country named "France" or any religion or anything). 5. Who on Earth can say that human rights are natural ? Who ? Nobody. Its maybe the point that i am more convinced. For sure i m believing on the human rights, i think every human being has the right to live and i agree with the things you quote (freedom, equality, prosperity). But its clearly a human invention, nothing else. Its not NATURAL. That's what he wants to say, nothing more. Harari himself believes in these rights. But he just wants to say that yes, as religion, its fictionnal because its just another belief. Its not natural. About religion, you dont seem to understand what is religion actually. I m a atheist. But i know that religion is not only about gods and life after death. Religious people are experiencing thing everyday. Its things that you dont understand, that's simple. Its just prove that you didnt read his book, he will explain far more better than me. I really advice you to read this book. I dont agree with all the things he said but it makes us think a lot about several things of our society and about history in general.
I am reminded that much like past scholars, mathematicians, religious leaders, kings, queens & perfect strangers, this guy is just the latest among us who wants to persuade others with their own narrative.
In a world flooded with irrelevant information, lucidity is power, thanks to Harari the world makes more sense to many of us and if this explanation will add even a small group of people to the debate about the future of our species, then he will have achieved his purpose. Harari intelligent and immense!
If aha moments upset you, don't even think about taking Professor Harari's course on Coursera or reading his book, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind. There are numerous insights per lesson and you will find yourself understanding more clearly and yet wanting to learn more. A total delight. Should be required worldwide!
This was just not even four years ago, when nobody knew who Yuval Harari was. Now he's one of the most prominent public intellectuals in the world. It took Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins et. al. decades to get this famous from where they started. It shows how relevant Harari's material is at this point in history. And how two hours of meditation a day can stop you from going insane when you go from a nobody to getting 100 invitations to talk *a day.* So far...
Isaac Asimov floated the idea that the crucial mutation in the evolution of humans was one that slowed the maturation rate. We get ~2 billion heartbeats on average, double many species. Slow maturation made us dependent on maternal care for longer and our mothers needing more support. We also needed clothes. For our species it was cooperate or die. Our history of a species could follow from that ...
Hahahaha! Fear and vanity are powerful. For a God loving human, life is simple and filled with purpose. For the one walking with absence thereof, it spirals down into rationalizing their pointless void.
The fact that people don’t wish to hear it, sort of shows the power of fiction. We’re not willing to embrace this because it would honestly shake the foundation they stand on!
MisterBlueSky1000 depends on what u mean from "successful survival in reality". Dogs, and any other animal, also have a story of successful survival in reality, they exist. They eat, They live. They reproduce. The only thing we need in reality, fiction comes just to organize and explore people. Religion, for exemple, is fiction and only exist because people believe in this parallel reality, they believe because they are convinced for other people to believe in it. If there was no religion we would still exist, we would still eat and reproduce.
What you refuse to accept is the very thing that makes us so different from the animals is the fact that we are created in the image of the Almighty God he gave us the mental ability to be self aware to think and reason and the spiritual ability to see beyond us the animals were not give the ability to grasp a Creator or to understand his place in the universe rather it be the material or spiritual universe rather you want to accept his existence is always up to you but you can't deny the obvious differences between us and animals . Have a great day.
FInd Brian Godawa's short film (7+ mins) "Cruel Logic" on TH-cam. A psychopathic killer challenges the assertions ("BioLoGiCaL dEtErMiNiSm!!!") of just such a one as Yuval Harari. Like and share.
Bravo. What to do? Everyone around me is 99% fictional. They live to work...and their fun time is always to talk about work and how to make more money in fear of reality.
In my opinion, it is a very interesting theory when he emphasizes the importance of collaboration to evolve, the need of trust to build something great. Nonetheless, this gentleman has also oversimplified the human brain which is more complex and sophisticated than the apes´. Also the human soul, and its quest of pursuing meaning in life, to create a better world. Keep in mind that a lot of discoveries and inventions have done and developed by people self-dedicated and self-driven, such as Alexander Fleming, Elijah McCoy, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla just to mention a few.... Besides, we cannot ignore or diminish all the inspiration that the Poet Community and spiritual leaders have provided in all these years...
I agree with Yuval that human rights don’t exist naturally. What if they are just fictions that we humans created for the betterment of our human race to fit with the ideal conditions that we want to live in? Just imagine we were born some thousands of years ago.. we wouldn’t even have thought about certain rights at that time. The rights evolved as we’re trying to come up with ways to enhance our well-being. Those rights will be constantly developing and will further be evolving. It’s just as simple as we all want the nicest things that can make our lives perfect (which we can attain from positive rights) and don’t want harm from others (which will be ensured by having negative rights). Since human rights have been ideally constructed for that purpose and as long as it’s good for us, I think we should embrace this idea of human rights so that oppression won’t be done by powerful actors. Human rights come with accountability and all human beings (I would say not just the state) have accountability for the protection and fulfillment of rights that were created or identified by human beings.. the greater the human rights violations happening (or in other words, the more we are far from our ideal situations), the more conflict or violence will happen.. that’s just human nature.. since respecting, protecting, or fulfilling human rights can lead to positive peace, let’s just focus on the practical nature of this fictional concept and let’s do the best for the sake of humanity… :)
i am reading his book 'Brief history of humankind', human's unique cooperation comes from our imagination and common belief on fictional reality, it's 100% true, belief is the very first step we can do anything.
I'm curious though about his philosophy towards animals and agriculture. If "rights" are an imagined reality, engineered by our imaginations as tools for survival and cooperation and power, which seems plausible, how can we take as a certainty our judgment as to what is right and wrong? If we chose only things we can be certain of are basic objective realities like the physical existance of things, or consciousness itself, how does he reconcile his philosophy towards 'happiness' (like humans being happier prior to the great 'mistake' of agriculture, which seems unknowable, while at the same time the phenomena of humans never being satisfied and always looking for the next step up pleasure, which are both positions he takes) and also his philosophy towards the concept of 'cruelty', which by his definition seems to be another imagined myth.
Seems like you are very close to noticing how moral relativists pick and choose whether they believe in rights and objective morality according to whether it furthers their own agenda or not. Better stop thinking right there or you might get in trouble!
I mean, if we can arrive at a place where we’re unafraid to be brutally honest with ourselves.....and the science proves it, we can accept the fact that we aren’t all equal.
,,,,,,, True that Human minds works with objective reality and virtual reality.... But we have invented Mathematcics Geometry , algebra Equations ,,, all these things are virtual reality ....becase they are based on ideal shapes and concepts which doesnt exist in realworld....But these concepts works in reality very much as we expect .....other wise it would not been possible for human beings to be able to advance in technology so much...
When he talks about the collective imagination of humans constructing reality... Kastoriades is impossible to not think about. Not a very well-known philosopher but I would totally recommend checking his work if this subject "clicks" with you.
You should buy this book called “My Struggle.” It’s called something else in its original German but it’s basically the same thing this guy was talking about. Look it up.
@@stevenpolkinghorn4747 He's also borrowing heavily from works like Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible. "Right and wrong are whatever we choose in our minds, bruhhhh!"
Both of his books are very enlightening, these kind of talks are exactly what today's students should be watching, for the rest of adults already trapped in a real work-debt-hate my life-gotta look cool- style of life his ideas are a bit far fetched
“Any large scale human cooperation is rooted in common myths that exist only in people’s collective imagination. Two lawyers who have never met can nevertheless combine efforts to defend a complete stranger because they both believe in the existence of laws, justice, human rights, and the money paid out in fees. Yet none of these things exists outside the stories that people invent and tell one another. There are no gods in the universe, no nations, no money, no human rights, no laws and no justice outside the common imagination of human beings. Lawyers call it a ‘legal fiction’. It can’t be pointed at, it is not a physical object. But it exists as legal entity. An imagined reality is not a lie. Unlike lying, an imagined reality is something that everyone believes in, and as long as this communal belief persists, the imagined reality exerts force in the world. Most millionaires sincerely believe in the existence of money and limited liability companies. UN demanded that the Libyan government respect the human rights of its citizens, even though the UN, Libya and human rights are all figments of our fertile imaginations. Sapiens have thus been living in a dual reality. On the one hand, the objective reality of the trees, rivers and lions; and on the other hand, the imagined reality of gods, nations and corporations. As time went by the imagined reality became ever more powerful, so today, the very survival of trees, rivers and lions depends on the grace of the imagined entities such as the United States and Google” - Sapiens, Yuval Harari
Yuval a great speaker, and communicator. His naturalistic approach to explaining mankind is not much different of a fictional story than other philosophical worldviews. I'm sure he believes his worldview is the only correct one, or the only studied one. His approach is entirely naturalistic, and as a result he makes assumptions based on that narrow field of view.
Harari must sound fascinating to only those novice, adolescent minded audience yet to be trained adequately in sociology and economics. I am surprised that despite being a historian himself how Harari fails to understand the evolution of money in historical perspective and the emergence of nation states. What appear to be completely imaginary today are deeply rooted in and emerged out of our practical real life situations. Money and nation states can't be compared with poetic imaginations as Harari tends to show them. I am sure Harari would one day laugh at his own thoughts years later when he would grow more matured sense of a socioeconomic analysis and look back to his today's novice theories. Thank you everybody.
So he says human rights don't exist; well neither does his self proclaimed status as "elite" and not to mention all the fake fiat money that makes him so rich.
I think he might be wrong about large numbers of humans "cooperating" among themselves... if you are born into a large group you are FORCED to cooperate, but since it is forced, is it really cooperation?? Even among small groups, what other choice do they have if they want to survive? they 'cooperate" and turn on each other if they have to or if they can. To use the word cooperation to describe what the microphone or computer or ted talk organisers do, is a bit too fancy.... the microphone or other inventors did so on a progressive basis of improving the already existent mic, but not to "cooperate" with him for this talk... something very important is missing in his view of things here... I just cannot put my finger on it. Again: he uses the mic because it is what is available to do so, we work with what is available. I know this is an incomplete thought but so is his, something important is missing, perhaps many things.
I think he used the example of mic being a tool that brought the audience and him and the organizers together..they cooperate to run this talk. This is what humans are capable of. Due to our cognitive ability we have we are able to go beyond objective reality. So we create fictional realities, tools and language to cooperate and come together as one race/group/country/you name it.
You are an Excellent tutor... I believe in God because I tested this Thruth.. I know it for sure I mean It is personal quest a journey that took me years and a lot of readings not because we humans we have this capacity to have common beliefs or to believe in thigs that does not exist. respect.
The way I see it... Human rights are not an "invention". They are a moral goal. Closely related to biological need for survival. Not the "survival of the fittest". Survival of the kindest.
Sssshhhhh! He doesn't want people to know that moral right and wrong are objective things that exist in reality, regardless of whether you believe in them or not. He wants people to believe that right and wrong are not objective, but that we can choose what they are in our own minds, because that allows control freaks to effectively redefine reality, demoralize society and rule over it.
On a "lone island with a chimpanzee" , provided no other variables, eventually you both die, probably within days or a week of one another. There is not a lot of difference between you from the perspective of mortality. However to say a chimpanzee is a hardier creature is one thing. However I think a sapiens with more ingenuity could find a way to outlive, though in the end "all is vapor"
As he implied, slaughterhouses are a negative outcome of human cooperation. Carnism is a story that most people believe, but Veganism is a story that is gaining momentum. Why should each of us boycott animal products? 1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get several deadly chronic diseases) 2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases 3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen. 4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year! 5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution 6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation 7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions. 8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity 9-Needless killing of innocent, sentient beings cannot be ethically justified. 10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation. 11- Longer lifespan. 12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.) 13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance 14- Vegetarians and vegans have lower rates of dementia later in life 15- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third! 16- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1 trillion in health care and related costs (Oxford Study) Links for some of these are at my channel under "About." If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. TH-cam only allows a certain number of links at my channel.
"Yuval Harari: ‘Modern animal farming is one of history’s worst crimes’"- Title in an article in "The Vegan Review." "He gives the example of the dairy industry: “[It] is founded on breaking the bond of love between mother and offspring. A cow never produces milk unless it becomes pregnant and gives birth to a calf. The cow produces milk in order to feed her calf, but then humans take away the calf to be slaughtered for meat and milk the cow themselves. “This results in much pain and agony for hundreds of millions of cows and calves each year. Judged by the sheer amount of misery it causes, modern animal farming is probably one of the worst crimes in history.”
@@rangefinderz5135 The fact that the best argument you have consists in eating something unethical, dangerous, and destructive says a lot. You didn't even try to refute any of the compelling reasons to boycott animal products I listed!
Willingness to ignore human dominion and rights quickly opens the door to oppression.
Is that what he's doing here? I disagree. He's explaining the dynamics of what allows humans to cooperate in very large numbers, as distinct from all other species. Where in his talk does his suggest ignoring human dominion?
@@JoshuaKahni disagree
Agree fully. Those who disagree may already have lost and not yet realized it.
Agree. He talks about human domination of the planet as if it's our commonly and tacitly understood goal. As if somehow we're winning against the other species in an unspoken but understood competition. The guy must be on the autism-spectrum or have some kind of psychosis. He has a warped understanding of things.
He is not willing to ignore rights nor encouraging anyone to. He is examining them.
this talk definitely strengthen my believe in GOD. THANK YOU! Only humans can do because WE WERE MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD!!
Yes, not unintelligent, brute, beasts.
A totally made up entity. Why don't you believe in Thor or say Zeus? The had a run. So your God is somehow better...or more real?
@@stuartbeaton-gm9xntell that to a Muslim
Yes God made the Universe and everything in it and Yuval Nosferatu Harari is going to come face to face with God one day and he will be judged and we all know where he is going to spend eternity.
@@stuartbeaton-gm9xn no one cares that you're an atheist. Scream at us all you like
One of the best teachers in the world without a doubt. There is certainly too much to learn from the course and it's all for free.
These people restore my faith in humankind.
Aditya Mishra which course?
@@kripamohamed brief history of humankind - based on the book sapiens. it was available on Coursera for free.
@@Adityarm.08 I didnt find anything by "brief history of humankind" in Cousera! can u explain a bit?
@@hossain2010 the full lecture series is on TH-cam now on Y.N.Harai's channel.
I can’t believe these comments. They all have to be bots. No way this many people would agree with this and that god is a fake story. I myself do not believe in god, but still think this guy is insane
Finally. A comment that I can agree with. Couple this with his views on depopulation and you really leveled up to
‘coo coo ca choo.’
God is fake, Soul is real. There is Spirit, in fact the Spirit- Source is the only thing that exist, we are expresions of It.
Harari ignores both God and Soul, he is brainwashed by so called ”science” or ”$cience” a better name for these late years. 😀
He is, indeed, insane. He defines 'importance' as having 'an impact on the world'. I don't know how he has the chutzpah to describe himself as a philosopher on his website.
I think he's an over-educated m0r0n, and that his stupidity is most evident when he says, if you cut a person open, you find no rights inside.
That said, why do you deceive yourself by pretending you don't believe in God?
Where does he get his data from? What texts and "authorities" does he research with??
None. He makes it up. It's far more imaginary than his belief of human rights. He's really a contradiction to himself. One these wef weasels pushing their agenda. Trying to desensitise people into believing they have no rights.
Dr. Harari makes the type of points during his lectures that simultaneously give an "aha" moment, changing the way one looks at the big questions in life, and, at the same time, make so much sense that it seems at though one should have already realized these points. He has an incredible ability to make difficult concepts easily understood; he is a top notch intellectual and teacher.
I had the same reaction when I took his coursera course: this is so obviously right; why didn't I realize it before now?
Clear, simple, yet conveyed great ideas. No excessive fancy words he used frequently. I think Noah is one of the best minds in our time.
This shd be an eye opening moment where humans do careers and tell themselves stories that will make us transcendent
Wish he'd have mentioned bartering - the use of items from our objective reality (e.g. antlers, gem stones, furs and onward) and the conversion of these into the basis of a currency system. His referral to finance as a "story" is simplistic. It is surely one of a set of "laws" which allow a human society to develop, another being a judicial system, another being a social care system. Though these "laws" developed out of human imagination they also grew from a necessity.
Exactly!
Laws of exchange
Most of these " ideas " were created by corporations, at one time for what appeared to be the betterment of humanity
Well if freedom is fictional and of our imagination then so is slavery too for that matter, Mr. Yuval.
Also, money and bartering isn't just of our imagination, its necessary for our survival.
Mr. Yuval Noah Harari's definition of imagination is extremely loose and I'm not sure i totally agree with it.
You can't get to 1984's "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" without first defining things as fictional, changeable concepts inside the human mind instead of rigid, objective things existing in objective reality. In fact, you will want to define "objective reality" itself as a myth. Which I'm sure he does somewhere at some point.
His Coursera lectures are the best I've ever taken. I strongly recommend it to everyone! :-) Believer or not, go for it and you won't regret. Regards!
I second that.
Vojislav Momirov Thanks for mentioning it, I'll go check it out.
I thinkk it was a good course on Coursera but he had too much talk and text and little graphs ,illustrations or animations in his lectures. It was very intreseting !!
NotAkira ..ok so can u put forward ur tier 1 book
Vojislav Momirov yuva
Everyone should read his book, "Sapiens." It is such an important and thought provoking book on how we as a society came to be. I was blown away by the amount of times Harari's insights made me challenge my own beliefs and outlook on humankind. An absolutely brilliant scholar and author.
First prove evolution, then pretend any of this pseudoscience is true. Go ahead, I'll wait.
😂😂😂😂😂
Changed my thinking.... Best book...
@@worldwidewaste-q4t There is no evidence for evolution.
@@twsartadventures3660 Skepticism is a good thing. You should apply it to your belief in a god.
This TED talk is in the top 1% of the top 1% of TED talks. The humble Farmer
hahahah, for me was one of the worst
fucking genius, pure genius, generous contributions of knowledge to humanity.
+KaizerDraco easiest way of pretending that you understand something is to either show love or hate. If you understood what he said you would know that there is nothing genius about it. It's just simply a stupid argument full of flaws
+Sarah McBeth hi could you elaborate?
i like stories ;-)
+Sarah McBeth Full of flaws ? Give some examples or your commentary is completely useless.
+Arthur Roffin I am glad some people took interest on my comment. I will try my best:
1. Cooperation between humans relies much more on knowing one another compare to cooperation of chimps, because humans have much more means for cheating each other.
2. "If you put 1000 humans and 1000 chimps in an island, then humans will definitely win". This is contrary to the natural history. This species of chimps have survived on earth for millions of years, but homo sapiens are much younger. Even if we don't take possible nuclear wars into consideration, if humans don't eradicate chimps, chimps have shown much better skills in getting along and survive. Other examples happen right before our eyes: some neighborhoods in downtown Detroit and cities in nowadays Syria became vacant for different reasons, but insects and rats sill live there, proving that they have better survival skills.
3. Comparing humans and chimps in Wall Street is way too stupid for me to even waste time talking about. Ask me if you need clarification.
4. "You can never convince a chimps to do anything for you." Scientists actually do that everyday all over the world with different animals. Not by promising heaven of course, but with other rewards.
5. Human rights is not a fictional story like religion. Religion is fictional because it has to do with a promise that nobody has ever seen or experienced. Human rights is real because it has to do with freedom, equality, prosperity and other rights that people can feel and compare.
Did I say enough?
+Sarah McBeth
First, sorry for my english, i m french and i do not talk perfectly well...
Well then, i wanted to answer you each of your point but i realise something with your arguments. I think you dont get what Harari wants to say. He just wants to show HOW humans are dominant. Why they are the species today which dominate the others. He doesnt say that humans are more important than chimps. Did you read his book ? He never said that. Anyway i will try to answer each your point.
1. I dont see where Harari is wrong with that. Its what he want to say.
2. He is talking about the Homo Sapiens history, not natural. And again, if you read his book, you will see that he agrees with you. He said that since 2,5 millions years ago, humans can now "control" chimps because they are more organised. He is not even talking about surviving. His MAIN point all the time is: Why Homo Sapiens is controling the Earth ? Its as simple as that. I think you didnt read his book because he talks about survival skills as well. And he agrees saying that rats and other kind of animals will have great chances to survive compare to humans if a asteroid explodes the Earth. He is just talking about "domination" not surviving. And only on the Homo Sapiens period (so 2,5 millions years), not the entire Earth history.
3. Well same thing than the second point. He is talking about organisation, how Humans can cooperate in great numbers. He is not even talking about surviving again...
4. Yeah other "material" rewards whereas humans can imagine bigger things (religions, states, nations) to be millions indivualds beings to live toghether. That's what he wants to say. Again, his main speech is about how humans control the Earth. He just tries to explain in this other example that chimps cant have as imagination as humans. Well on that point, we are not sure, i agree... we cant be sure. But the fact is that today, humans can live in a group of 66 millions people in France for example whereas chimps cant because they cant believe all toghether in a same fictionnal thing (as the country named "France" or any religion or anything).
5. Who on Earth can say that human rights are natural ? Who ? Nobody. Its maybe the point that i am more convinced. For sure i m believing on the human rights, i think every human being has the right to live and i agree with the things you quote (freedom, equality, prosperity). But its clearly a human invention, nothing else. Its not NATURAL. That's what he wants to say, nothing more. Harari himself believes in these rights. But he just wants to say that yes, as religion, its fictionnal because its just another belief. Its not natural. About religion, you dont seem to understand what is religion actually. I m a atheist. But i know that religion is not only about gods and life after death. Religious people are experiencing thing everyday. Its things that you dont understand, that's simple. Its just prove that you didnt read his book, he will explain far more better than me. I really advice you to read this book. I dont agree with all the things he said but it makes us think a lot about several things of our society and about history in general.
I am reminded that much like past scholars, mathematicians, religious leaders, kings, queens & perfect strangers, this guy is just the latest among us who wants to persuade others with their own narrative.
Moral relativism isn't even a new narrative. It has been used to justify totalitarian regimes for a long time.
Except that he uses transparent reason and truth.
This is possibly my favorite TEDx talk ever. Absolutely brilliant.
I wish I had a teacher like this when I was younger.
It's not too late now to start reading his books! :)
You did, they are all lying about evolution. There is no scientific basis for it.
The world today needs thinkers like Yuval Noah Harari. Intelectually very provocative!
In a world flooded with irrelevant information, lucidity is power, thanks to Harari the world makes more sense to many of us and if this explanation will add even a small group of people to the debate about the future of our species, then he will have achieved his purpose. Harari intelligent and immense!
If aha moments upset you, don't even think about taking Professor Harari's course on Coursera or reading his book, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind.
There are numerous insights per lesson and you will find yourself understanding more clearly and yet wanting to learn more. A total delight. Should be required worldwide!
Dale Coupland name of the course
Where do you think he's leading us? Nature loving people or a life of AI. He is a WEF boy. Beware!!
Fascinating perspective! I'm downloading "Sapiens" now. Thank you!
his writing and research are elevated. 'Sapiens' has totally blown my mind and significantly swelled my horizons. well done Yuval. great work.
reading "Sapiens" what a perspective changing experience!!!
Your perspective was probably better before, then.
This was just not even four years ago, when nobody knew who Yuval Harari was. Now he's one of the most prominent public intellectuals in the world. It took Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins et. al. decades to get this famous from where they started. It shows how relevant Harari's material is at this point in history.
And how two hours of meditation a day can stop you from going insane when you go from a nobody to getting 100 invitations to talk *a day.* So far...
Isaac Asimov floated the idea that the crucial mutation in the evolution of humans was one that slowed the maturation rate. We get ~2 billion heartbeats on average, double many species. Slow maturation made us dependent on maternal care for longer and our mothers needing more support. We also needed clothes. For our species it was cooperate or die. Our history of a species could follow from that ...
Hahahaha! Fear and vanity are powerful. For a God loving human, life is simple and filled with purpose. For the one walking with absence thereof, it spirals down into rationalizing their pointless void.
I genuinely feel bad for this fella. Blind leading the blind...
me too, I feel sorry for him
Don't too bad about him hes one of the choosen people
This is what is wrong with modernity.
Did he just mentioned New Delhi😱
Yes
He speaks with a lot of passion.i wish he was my teacher
You can make him your teacher! he gave/is giving an open online course on coursera, www.coursera.org/course/humankind
i listened to the class already last year on course era
Though he states his truth to his perception it is not the definitive truth. Sad to say he deceives himself
How is that nobody stands up after hearing the truth of human existence! Maybe we are not ready to such fictions yet.
The fact that people don’t wish to hear it, sort of shows the power of fiction. We’re not willing to embrace this because it would honestly shake the foundation they stand on!
An Actually original idea, couraging us to think about something very basic. It is really interesting and inspring
Finally some good words for humanity! Thank you!
If imagination "not real" - then how come it is so crucial and effective for our successful survival in reality?
MisterBlueSky1000 depends on what u mean from "successful survival in reality". Dogs, and any other animal, also have a story of successful survival in reality, they exist. They eat, They live. They reproduce. The only thing we need in reality, fiction comes just to organize and explore people. Religion, for exemple, is fiction and only exist because people believe in this parallel reality, they believe because they are convinced for other people to believe in it. If there was no religion we would still exist, we would still eat and reproduce.
What you refuse to accept is the very thing that makes us so different from the animals is the fact that we are created in the image of the Almighty God he gave us the mental ability to be self aware to think and reason and the spiritual ability to see beyond us the animals were not give the ability to grasp a Creator or to understand his place in the universe rather it be the material or spiritual universe rather you want to accept his existence is always up to you but you can't deny the obvious differences between us and animals . Have a great day.
FInd Brian Godawa's short film (7+ mins) "Cruel Logic" on TH-cam. A psychopathic killer challenges the assertions ("BioLoGiCaL dEtErMiNiSm!!!") of just such a one as Yuval Harari.
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Yuval you're a real great teacher. Greetings from Iraq.
Best ted talk ever.
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Bravo. What to do? Everyone around me is 99% fictional. They live to work...and their fun time is always to talk about work and how to make more money in fear of reality.
In my opinion, it is a very interesting theory when he emphasizes the importance of collaboration to evolve, the need of trust to build something great. Nonetheless, this gentleman has also oversimplified the human brain which is more complex and sophisticated than the apes´. Also the human soul, and its quest of pursuing meaning in life, to create a better world. Keep in mind that a lot of discoveries and inventions have done and developed by people self-dedicated and self-driven, such as Alexander Fleming, Elijah McCoy, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla just to mention a few.... Besides, we cannot ignore or diminish all the inspiration that the Poet Community and spiritual leaders have provided in all these years...
I agree with Yuval that human rights don’t exist naturally. What if they are just fictions that we humans created for the betterment of our human race to fit with the ideal conditions that we want to live in?
Just imagine we were born some thousands of years ago.. we wouldn’t even have thought about certain rights at that time. The rights evolved as we’re trying to come up with ways to enhance our well-being. Those rights will be constantly developing and will further be evolving. It’s just as simple as we all want the nicest things that can make our lives perfect (which we can attain from positive rights) and don’t want harm from others (which will be ensured by having negative rights).
Since human rights have been ideally constructed for that purpose and as long as it’s good for us, I think we should embrace this idea of human rights so that oppression won’t be done by powerful actors.
Human rights come with accountability and all human beings (I would say not just the state) have accountability for the protection and fulfillment of rights that were created or identified by human beings.. the greater the human rights violations happening (or in other words, the more we are far from our ideal situations), the more conflict or violence will happen.. that’s just human nature.. since respecting, protecting, or fulfilling human rights can lead to positive peace, let’s just focus on the practical nature of this fictional concept and let’s do the best for the sake of humanity… :)
Yuval is the best at explaining how changes take place ♥️♥️
Brilliant mind of this time 👍
Greetings from Brazil. This Lecture is amazing
🌿 Yuval Noah Harari, Lawrence Krauss, Richard Dawkins, Aron Ra and Dr. Jason Fung; best time spent on TH-cam.
Try also Jordan B. Peterson
Antreas Siapani : Thanks. 🙂
Let me add: Jonathan Haidt
@@prettyprudent5779 Also Sam Harris.
Fantastic talk. We should have more of these in our schools. Not that mumble jumbo from teachers we have.
God gave us dominion over the animals.
BS We are smarter, we adapt , we are dangerous , we are gullible.. We need better ideas not another “God”..
Everyone should read Plato's Republic. Socrates goes in depth about human nature and society.
i am reading his book 'Brief history of humankind', human's unique cooperation comes from our imagination and common belief on fictional reality, it's 100% true, belief is the very first step we can do anything.
Yuval Rules!
I'm curious though about his philosophy towards animals and agriculture. If "rights" are an imagined reality, engineered by our imaginations as tools for survival and cooperation and power, which seems plausible, how can we take as a certainty our judgment as to what is right and wrong? If we chose only things we can be certain of are basic objective realities like the physical existance of things, or consciousness itself, how does he reconcile his philosophy towards 'happiness' (like humans being happier prior to the great 'mistake' of agriculture, which seems unknowable, while at the same time the phenomena of humans never being satisfied and always looking for the next step up pleasure, which are both positions he takes) and also his philosophy towards the concept of 'cruelty', which by his definition seems to be another imagined myth.
Seems like you are very close to noticing how moral relativists pick and choose whether they believe in rights and objective morality according to whether it furthers their own agenda or not. Better stop thinking right there or you might get in trouble!
If we were neighbors... I think you would enjoy our conversations about the Word of God. 🥰
I mean, if we can arrive at a place where we’re unafraid to be brutally honest with ourselves.....and the science proves it, we can accept the fact that we aren’t all equal.
,,,,,,, True that Human minds works with objective reality and virtual reality.... But we have invented Mathematcics Geometry , algebra Equations ,,, all these things are virtual reality ....becase they are based on ideal shapes and concepts which doesnt exist in realworld....But these concepts works in reality very much as we expect .....other wise it would not been possible for human beings to be able to advance in technology so much...
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And they are not fictional?
Red flag he confuses himself with God
When he talks about the collective imagination of humans constructing reality... Kastoriades is impossible to not think about. Not a very well-known philosopher but I would totally recommend checking his work if this subject "clicks" with you.
i love his course..it was amazing :D i also bought his book and now am reading it :)
You should buy this book called “My Struggle.” It’s called something else in its original German but it’s basically the same thing this guy was talking about. Look it up.
@@stevenpolkinghorn4747 He's also borrowing heavily from works like Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible. "Right and wrong are whatever we choose in our minds, bruhhhh!"
In fact, animals also belief in stories: dogs conduct searches and perform duties in return for a future reward.
I think you missed the point. You can touch, see, eat, smell a dog biscuit. But not heaven.
@@keeponspinning who says that's not doggie heaven?😅
What's blown my mind
Inspires to think differently
Both of his books are very enlightening, these kind of talks are exactly what today's students should be watching, for the rest of adults already trapped in a real work-debt-hate my life-gotta look cool- style of life his ideas are a bit far fetched
Try proving evolution first, then pretend this dude is smart.
Aulas de história como você nunca obteve em salas de aula. Aviso: você se tornará mais sábio após ouví-las!
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This man is a saint. He understands the world as it is.
Lmfao bootlicker
On the objective / fictional model where does electricity come in? Previously unknown force?
Well, if you don't believe it exists in your own mind, electricity is just a myth, don't you see.
Excellent and very organic
“Any large scale human cooperation is rooted in common myths that exist only in people’s collective imagination. Two lawyers who have never met can nevertheless combine efforts to defend a complete stranger because they both believe in the existence of laws, justice, human rights, and the money paid out in fees. Yet none of these things exists outside the stories that people invent and tell one another. There are no gods in the universe, no nations, no money, no human rights, no laws and no justice outside the common imagination of human beings. Lawyers call it a ‘legal fiction’. It can’t be pointed at, it is not a physical object. But it exists as legal entity. An imagined reality is not a lie. Unlike lying, an imagined reality is something that everyone believes in, and as long as this communal belief persists, the imagined reality exerts force in the world. Most millionaires sincerely believe in the existence of money and limited liability companies. UN demanded that the Libyan government respect the human rights of its citizens, even though the UN, Libya and human rights are all figments of our fertile imaginations.
Sapiens have thus been living in a dual reality. On the one hand, the objective reality of the trees, rivers and lions; and on the other hand, the imagined reality of gods, nations and corporations. As time went by the imagined reality became ever more powerful, so today, the very survival of trees, rivers and lions depends on the grace of the imagined entities such as the United States and Google”
- Sapiens, Yuval Harari
Wow, your grasp on this is on point. Are you really Edward Snowden?
Summary : Human wins the world by imagination and corporation.
Sapiens is fascinating and also very depressing
You and I are created in the image of God-we have inherent worth.
We should listen to him, and learn.
And this is🙂 why humans control humans, you forgot to mention.
Yuval a great speaker, and communicator. His naturalistic approach to explaining mankind is not much different of a fictional story than other philosophical worldviews. I'm sure he believes his worldview is the only correct one, or the only studied one. His approach is entirely naturalistic, and as a result he makes assumptions based on that narrow field of view.
Harari must sound fascinating to only those novice, adolescent minded audience yet to be trained adequately in sociology and economics. I am surprised that despite being a historian himself how Harari fails to understand the evolution of money in historical perspective and the emergence of nation states. What appear to be completely imaginary today are deeply rooted in and emerged out of our practical real life situations. Money and nation states can't be compared with poetic imaginations as Harari tends to show them. I am sure Harari would one day laugh at his own thoughts years later when he would grow more matured sense of a socioeconomic analysis and look back to his today's novice theories. Thank you everybody.
Maybe you should read his books first instead of composing your obtuse opinion form a 15 min video ?
@@erockconcussions8957 Who told you I didn't, bro?
@@discussreligion789 it was obvious
Jordammit peterson fan detected.
@@arthuroliveirasouza4714 Calling names. People do it when they are unable to provide a rational response.
So he says human rights don't exist; well neither does his self proclaimed status as "elite" and not to mention all the fake fiat money that makes him so rich.
Dr Yuvals lecture will resonate with liberals and commies who abhor religion.
Same talk, in the upcoming ted show which took place in London in 2017, every single word is same
the laws and enforcement are not a reality - WE CANNOT BE COERCED OR FORCED TO DO ANYTHING and we are free to do anything without penalty.
It's a pity his opening premise is wrong. For the point he is trying to make, 70,000 years is not nearly long enough.
YNH---is just an awesome Sapien ...igniting the minds...! Thanks!
Fantastic. This level of awareness is fascinating and will help many to grow another level of paradigm towards intellectual evolution. Glad.
I think he might be wrong about large numbers of humans "cooperating" among themselves... if you are born into a large group you are FORCED to cooperate, but since it is forced, is it really cooperation?? Even among small groups, what other choice do they have if they want to survive? they 'cooperate" and turn on each other if they have to or if they can.
To use the word cooperation to describe what the microphone or computer or ted talk organisers do, is a bit too fancy.... the microphone or other inventors did so on a progressive basis of improving the already existent mic, but not to "cooperate" with him for this talk... something very important is missing in his view of things here... I just cannot put my finger on it.
Again: he uses the mic because it is what is available to do so, we work with what is available.
I know this is an incomplete thought but so is his, something important is missing, perhaps many things.
I think he used the example of mic being a tool that brought the audience and him and the organizers together..they cooperate to run this talk. This is what humans are capable of. Due to our cognitive ability we have we are able to go beyond objective reality. So we create fictional realities, tools and language to cooperate and come together as one race/group/country/you name it.
Harari's TED talk.
seems like a simple rehashing of Heidegger. Being and time.
His basic strategy of comparing human and chimpanzee is itself not correct because similar things only can be compared.
You are an Excellent tutor... I believe in God because I tested this Thruth.. I know it for sure I mean It is personal quest a journey that took me years and a lot of readings not because we humans we have this capacity to have common beliefs or to believe in thigs that does not exist. respect.
He is the best! Read his book
You crammed 30k people in the stadium during Katrina and it was mad chaos!!!
If someone asked Yuval "what is the most mind-blowing thing you know?"
The listener would...... (fill in the blanks)
Think yourself
very inspiring!
Is logic and mathematics fictional stories as well?
the video is blocked by a TED screen. I see a tiny bit of his head moving and 95 percent of the screen below is blocked by a TED screen.
How do we know what he is telling us in this lecture isn't a fictional reality???????
Well his fiction is a way of explaining why we have fictions and why they are important. Fictional does not mean unimportant.
We did not domesticate the wheat -- the wheat domesticated us!
Wonderful!
I love his accent 😍
The way I see it...
Human rights are not an "invention".
They are a moral goal.
Closely related to biological need for survival.
Not the "survival of the fittest".
Survival of the kindest.
Human rights may be fictions but that doesn't mean they aren't important.
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Sssshhhhh! He doesn't want people to know that moral right and wrong are objective things that exist in reality, regardless of whether you believe in them or not. He wants people to believe that right and wrong are not objective, but that we can choose what they are in our own minds, because that allows control freaks to effectively redefine reality, demoralize society and rule over it.
and before we were in large numbers, did we not cooperate flexibly ...?
I’m astonished that this doesn’t have more views!
On a "lone island with a chimpanzee" , provided no other variables, eventually you both die, probably within days or a week of one another. There is not a lot of difference between you from the perspective of mortality. However to say a chimpanzee is a hardier creature is one thing. However I think a sapiens with more ingenuity could find a way to outlive, though in the end "all is vapor"
As he implied, slaughterhouses are a negative outcome of human cooperation. Carnism is a story that most people believe, but Veganism is a story that is gaining momentum. Why should each of us boycott animal products?
1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get several deadly chronic diseases)
2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases
3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen.
4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year!
5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution
6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation
7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions.
8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity
9-Needless killing of innocent, sentient beings cannot be ethically justified.
10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation.
11- Longer lifespan.
12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.)
13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance
14- Vegetarians and vegans have lower rates of dementia later in life
15- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third!
16- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1 trillion in health care and related costs (Oxford Study)
Links for some of these are at my channel under "About."
If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. TH-cam only allows a certain number of links at my channel.
"Yuval Harari: ‘Modern animal farming is one of history’s worst crimes’"- Title in an article in "The Vegan Review."
"He gives the example of the dairy industry: “[It] is founded on breaking the bond of love between mother and offspring. A cow never produces milk unless it becomes pregnant and gives birth to a calf. The cow produces milk in order to feed her calf, but then humans take away the calf to be slaughtered for meat and milk the cow themselves.
“This results in much pain and agony for hundreds of millions of cows and calves each year. Judged by the sheer amount of misery it causes, modern animal farming is probably one of the worst crimes in history.”
@@rangefinderz5135 The fact that the best argument you have consists in eating something unethical, dangerous, and destructive says a lot. You didn't even try to refute any of the compelling reasons to boycott animal products I listed!