@MythologyAndFiction230 I thought it was well made and well written. I agree this ground has been covered quite a bit, though. A suggestion for a video would be: why was Smeagol so quickly corrupted by it, to the point that he immediately killed to possess it after only seeing it. In the Peter Jackson version of Lord of the Rings, Andy Serkis plays Smeagol as a bit "off" even before the ring is found. We watched Return of the King on Christmas and my wife & I were discussing how it seemed Smeagol was a bit crazy from the start. That might make for an interesting video.
No-- no I didn't like it at all. There are at least twenty real humans who use their real voice and write good scripts, explaining tolkein to us accurately. We do not need a bot channel with an ai voice attempting to do something that was perfected a decade ago.
The way I see it is Frodo didn't actually fail for the simple reason that he managed, though with great effort and with the help of others, to get the ring to the one place where it could be destroyed. And because Bilbo, Frodo and Sam all showed mercy to Gollum, the actual means for the ring's destruction were at hand.
The ring played on wants and desires. I would thing the reason it had less effect on him was because he was happy and content in life. The only real stresses he had was when he was chosen to take the ring to mount doom.
Frodo was the little hero. His power was the ability to carry the ring undetected. Part of the reason he was undetected was because he didn't want it and who would suspect that a person that didn't want it would carry it all the way to its destruction. A paradox was that once he put the ring on he could not be seen, except by Sauron. It wasn't only that he didn't want it. There were several people who did not want the ring. But he didn't want it and had no powers of his own other than a noble hobbit determination to continue at all cost. He was small and insignificant. That was his power and it still wasn't enough. He needed one more ingredient. Compassion. He understood gollum as a ring bearer and knew that if circumstances had been different he very well could have been the same. What were the circumstances? His lineage, his friends, his character, his courage and his compassion. This is genius story telling. I can't do it - but I can spot it.
Gandalf says GOLLUM’s ownership began with murder. Frodo was more “spiritual” than Bilbo. And Galadriel gave him spiritual support and gave Sam support. Frodo and Isildur were very similar. Frodos compassion for Gollum was the driving force.
This question has many answers. The will of god, the power of friendship. The will to always do the right thing, bilbo rising frodo, gollum having some part to play whether good or ill. I liked the video. Keep it up, bud!
Before watching this video here is my understanding. The One Ring is like a boss who has learned how to deal with humans, but now he has to deal with a cow. No matter how big pay raise he is trying to tempt that cow with the cow will not bend to his will. It will take some time for him to learn that cows just want to have grass to eat, water to drink and peaceful place to stay and that you might need some whiping to make them mooove.
I think it's wrong to assume Frodo was particularity resilient to the ring when we only see a few ring bearers, or people who spend months/years around it, and they almost all do pretty well. Billbo picked it up and wore it regularly for decades, Frodo carried it around his neck for about a year, Sam wore the ring in Mordor and just shrugged off it's influence, while Boromir was tempted, none of the other party members are ever tempted, Sam is with him far longer then anyone and never tempted. It's implied just about any Hobbit, baring the more selfish ones like the Sackvill-Baggins, could have been around it without worry or carried the ring to Mt. Doom. Indeed, if Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippen had handed it off between them for the long months of travel then none of them would have become to attached and Frodo or whoever made it to Mt. Doom would probably have been able to throw it in themselves as they each would have had the ring about as much as Frodo in Lothlorien when he offered Galadriel the ring. That doesn't even take into account that Dwarves were designed to resist Morgoths corruption and influence and Saroun is just a lesser, weaker version of him, Gimli or any other dwarf would likely have been just as resilient, granted they have a more natural selfish and aggressive nature which could have impacted the quest, but any decision they made would have been there own, not the ring or Sarouns.
Because Bilbo was already one of the good Hobbit's who were busy being the other way around from just having to be savage to anyone else. A gentleman who could be learning for it, for sure. Unlike that bad guy Smeagol, who could be right away, and would just be giving the Hobbits a bad name, compared to everyone else. He was a filthy wretch. Sam never let him have it enough, even at the end, but enough is enough even before Smeagol came along already. That guy's like my neighbor turned goofball-crystal-meth di-k, over there, about it. Heh, nonono, Gollum-di-k, so that we don't all have to just be that guy all the time! Nooo: It's already been Gollum's di-k, so that's what we'll always have to make him have to be doing, from now on!
From what i understand he is as even you o said a humble hobbit he doesn't need a lot as he lives in a house built into a hill he spends his past time relaxing under trees hanging out with Gandalf or having feasts with family they are simple and find great joy in simple things and do not want riches or fame only a nice relaxing time unlike the humans who want to war over riches and women and status they bicker and backstab they are by default partially corrupt compared to the selfless calm life of a hobbit
Frodo barely made it, the ring pretty much took over Frodo in the end. If Sam nor Gollum was around, Frodo would of walked away with the ring & right into Saurons grasp. Bilbo fought off the ring & twas the only one to do so.
Did you like the video ? If there is something i can do better , please feel free to share .😊
Something new? Not something that already has a million videos about the subject.
@@Me-qp8vz i'll do that , thanks for sharing.
@MythologyAndFiction230 I thought it was well made and well written. I agree this ground has been covered quite a bit, though. A suggestion for a video would be: why was Smeagol so quickly corrupted by it, to the point that he immediately killed to possess it after only seeing it. In the Peter Jackson version of Lord of the Rings, Andy Serkis plays Smeagol as a bit "off" even before the ring is found. We watched Return of the King on Christmas and my wife & I were discussing how it seemed Smeagol was a bit crazy from the start. That might make for an interesting video.
@jasonhoffman7428 thanks for the idea , ill do more of my resarch on it and after i finish the video im making ill probably do that .
No-- no I didn't like it at all. There are at least twenty real humans who use their real voice and write good scripts, explaining tolkein to us accurately. We do not need a bot channel with an ai voice attempting to do something that was perfected a decade ago.
The way I see it is Frodo didn't actually fail for the simple reason that he managed, though with great effort and with the help of others, to get the ring to the one place where it could be destroyed. And because Bilbo, Frodo and Sam all showed mercy to Gollum, the actual means for the ring's destruction were at hand.
Yes-it was his relationships and his community that saved him.
Nah bruh he failed. He chose not to destroy the ring n it happened by accident during the struggle with gollum.
The ring played on wants and desires.
I would thing the reason it had less effect on him was because he was happy and content in life.
The only real stresses he had was when he was chosen to take the ring to mount doom.
He was happy with his life , he didnt have higher desires . He lived in the moment
Frodo was the little hero. His power was the ability to carry the ring undetected. Part of the reason he was undetected was because he didn't want it and who would suspect that a person that didn't want it would carry it all the way to its destruction. A paradox was that once he put the ring on he could not be seen, except by Sauron.
It wasn't only that he didn't want it. There were several people who did not want the ring. But he didn't want it and had no powers of his own other than a noble hobbit determination to continue at all cost. He was small and insignificant. That was his power and it still wasn't enough. He needed one more ingredient. Compassion. He understood gollum as a ring bearer and knew that if circumstances had been different he very well could have been the same.
What were the circumstances? His lineage, his friends, his character, his courage and his compassion.
This is genius story telling. I can't do it - but I can spot it.
Gandalf says GOLLUM’s ownership began with murder. Frodo was more “spiritual” than Bilbo. And Galadriel gave him spiritual support and gave Sam support. Frodo and Isildur were very similar. Frodos compassion for Gollum was the driving force.
Good points
The Ring also gave Gollum big eyes. So, there is that.
Great video, these are some fantastic shots.
@@radicalrandy2 Thanks man that means alot . I'll keep improving
This question has many answers. The will of god, the power of friendship. The will to always do the right thing, bilbo rising frodo, gollum having some part to play whether good or ill. I liked the video. Keep it up, bud!
I agree with you an all points . Thanks , ill do my best.
Before watching this video here is my understanding. The One Ring is like a boss who has learned how to deal with humans, but now he has to deal with a cow. No matter how big pay raise he is trying to tempt that cow with the cow will not bend to his will. It will take some time for him to learn that cows just want to have grass to eat, water to drink and peaceful place to stay and that you might need some whiping to make them mooove.
Boromir was only temporarily corrupted.
Because the ring was taken away from his grasp. If he had caught Frodo it would have taken him completely.
If it wasn't for Sam, Frodo would've became another Gollum, or worse.
@@mattgohlke8216 yup , sam carried hard
In the end Gollum saved the middle earth because Frodo didn't want to destroy the ring
Ohh the irony , lol
all part of Eru’s plan to dispose of Sauron indirectly with the perfect carrier(Frodo)backup(Sam)and a not so gentle nudge(Gollum)😉
Eru's tiny squd .
I think it's wrong to assume Frodo was particularity resilient to the ring when we only see a few ring bearers, or people who spend months/years around it, and they almost all do pretty well. Billbo picked it up and wore it regularly for decades, Frodo carried it around his neck for about a year, Sam wore the ring in Mordor and just shrugged off it's influence, while Boromir was tempted, none of the other party members are ever tempted, Sam is with him far longer then anyone and never tempted. It's implied just about any Hobbit, baring the more selfish ones like the Sackvill-Baggins, could have been around it without worry or carried the ring to Mt. Doom. Indeed, if Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippen had handed it off between them for the long months of travel then none of them would have become to attached and Frodo or whoever made it to Mt. Doom would probably have been able to throw it in themselves as they each would have had the ring about as much as Frodo in Lothlorien when he offered Galadriel the ring. That doesn't even take into account that Dwarves were designed to resist Morgoths corruption and influence and Saroun is just a lesser, weaker version of him, Gimli or any other dwarf would likely have been just as resilient, granted they have a more natural selfish and aggressive nature which could have impacted the quest, but any decision they made would have been there own, not the ring or Sarouns.
I have to agree with you on that point. Thanks for showing me another way to look at it .
Also, let’s remember Tom Bombadil was completely unaffected by the ring.
@@kathryncainmadsen5850 Ok but Tom is no human nor elf. He is far beyond them.
Frodo had the ring for more than 17 year not just 1 year. But you have to read the book to know it.
Resilient? That word doesn’t mean what you think.
What do you mean. Can you elaborate?
Because Bilbo was already one of the good Hobbit's who were busy being the other way around from just having to be savage to anyone else. A gentleman who could be learning for it, for sure. Unlike that bad guy Smeagol, who could be right away, and would just be giving the Hobbits a bad name, compared to everyone else. He was a filthy wretch. Sam never let him have it enough, even at the end, but enough is enough even before Smeagol came along already. That guy's like my neighbor turned goofball-crystal-meth di-k, over there, about it. Heh, nonono, Gollum-di-k, so that we don't all have to just be that guy all the time! Nooo: It's already been Gollum's di-k, so that's what we'll always have to make him have to be doing, from now on!
From what i understand he is as even you o said a humble hobbit he doesn't need a lot as he lives in a house built into a hill he spends his past time relaxing under trees hanging out with Gandalf or having feasts with family they are simple and find great joy in simple things and do not want riches or fame only a nice relaxing time unlike the humans who want to war over riches and women and status they bicker and backstab they are by default partially corrupt compared to the selfless calm life of a hobbit
Correct , thats how i saw it
He was ?
He has 3 boyfriends he has experience with ring play...
@@Me-qp8vz lol
Frodo barely made it, the ring pretty much took over Frodo in the end. If Sam nor Gollum was around, Frodo would of walked away with the ring & right into Saurons grasp.
Bilbo fought off the ring & twas the only one to do so.
Yup , ring corrupts everyone in the end.