Yesterday I discovered Xbox cloud gaming - I had a 3 month game pass subscription with some hardware I bought and it blew me away. I just loaded Assassin's Creed Origins on my Samsung S20! Madness.
For people with poor internet connections, I'd say no. Even with a good connection you can't own the games and its a generally worse experience if you have half decent hardware.
I agree - if the internet connection is poor, it's not going to be good, which is why I included minimum bandwidth requirement comparisons for each of these services. In my testing running over WiFi I didn't experience much lag aside from Amazon Luna. I did compare the performance to my home PC which has a 3070 and a Ryzen 5600x (I think that's half decent) and the GeForce Now setup outperformed it significantly in terms of resolution output and pure FPS performance. As for game ownership, GeForce now is one of the only services in this review which you actually do own your games and that was the main reason it was recommended at the end as my #1 choice
There's a big catch with GeForce Now. It can stream in 4k 120Hz which feels fantastic imo but you need a good *decoder* on your device. For example smart TVs can't run the service at 4k 120hz at all. Most of them struggle with 1080p 60Hz and add massive input lag. Besides that I truly believe that it can replace someones PC or console in a lot of cases. Depending on your connection the input lag isn't too bad at all and they've come a long way. I can even play FPS games fine, but there is a slight hit in K/D so obviously not recommended for competitive players.
Solid point on the TVs, I didn't have a compatible TV to try it out, but even using the Firestick Max to try Luna or Game Pass it wasn't all too ideal, so can definitely see how it would be lag similar to that. You're in the same boat as me here. Was surprised to see how much better some games compared to my actual PC. I've tried a few FPS games with GeForce and they all played great! I didn't feel like I was at a disadvantage due to latency, since it all felt pretty snappy. I'm not a competitive player by any means, but if you're sitting down to have some fun it's a great experience.
@@JustinMiller_Tech you need a high end gaming tv to get the most out of cloud gaming, I have a samsung S95C OLED and works perfect at 4k 144hz, the only downside is you cant use M&K, only controller.
I have a Samsung Monitor and I play Xcloud and GeForce Now and personally I find Xcloud has a better connection and less lag than GeForce Now. The technology do is simply amazing no download, no install, no updates just play right away 😊👍👌
I do feel like Xbox prioritizes latency above all else and for the most part the experience was very good. Having GFN as another option is pretty nice though. Especially if you want to try and scale up some games that are a little more casual to play. I wish they had some sort of bundle offering to offset paying for two
I was really intrigued for the playstation one, but nevermind too many restrictions, decided to go with game pass i paid less than $100 and get 1 year subscription, and next month you can cloud your own game in it, more than happy.
Yeah I'm using GeforceNow at the moment. It's still not like a local machine. 120 fps stream feels rather like 60 fps with stutters here and there but still, it is a good option for singleplayer titles if you wait for new hardware to come out or just don't really care about high refresh gaming.
I think ultimate is the best bang for your buck if you don't own a console or any games. The library alone is enough reason to consider game pass ultimate.
To be fair to Luna and yes I'm a casual gamer you did not test Luna with the Amazon Controller that does not use Bluetooth and connects directly to WiFi which compared to all the other services which I've tried is the absolute best when it comes to Latency. And Luna is still at it's infancy when it comes to games. But yes with Luna use a Luna Controller you'll see the big difference
I saw they had a controller, but wasn’t sure if I wanted to commit to spending money if I didn’t enjoy the service. But from your experience it sounds like it’s worth giving it another go
i almost never have a problem with auto updating games, since all my single player games are pirated. they only update when i manually go pirate the newer version
Thanks for such detailed info. Although I do have a question..I have been a PC Gamer all my life..but recently I have decided to give console gaming a try..so my question is.. if I buy a game on steam (during those big steam sales obviously) which is a PC platform, will I be able to play that same game on Xbox as well for free via these cloud services?? Or do I have to purchase again ??.. please answer..
Yes and no. In the sense of accessing another platform like GeForce Now from your Xbox via the browser, you could play your steam games on console, but the experience will not be that great for most games. If you want the console versions of the game from steam, that won't work and you'd have to buy it again. Option 3. Get game pass ultimate and you'd be able to play both console and PC games on Xbox, PC, and supported cloud gaming platforms.
My last experience with cloud gaming was a few years ago where it worked great until someone else in my home started using the internet as well, then it became unplayable. Has it gotten better in that sense?
The review definitely lacks a boosteroid. He has a library of games on par with Geforce now, or even more, a beautiful design and, of course, cross-platform. In general, a top service for me
I realize after a few other comments like this that I should have probably added it in, but the reason I didn’t initially was due to pricing only being offered in Euros and didn’t want to mix in alternative currencies or conversions.
Can you play your own games when you’re away from home. For instance, would I be able to play COD multiplayer once I’m away from home based on Xbox profile? Or is it select games based on game pass with no multiplayer?
You can play anywhere and it would include multiplayer. Like if you were on a cruise in the middle of the ocean you could still access your library with current save data and pick up where you left off at home.
Which would you be curious about? I only really know of four of them. GFN would be the cheapest option since they are still running their 50% off promo where you can get ultimate tier for 9.99. Boosteroid Ultra recently came to USA, which would be around $19.84/month after Euro conversion. Both of those allow for Xbox Game Pass & Steam game synching, so you can add your existing library. While GFN also adds Epic Games and Ubisoft. Then you have options like Shadow that would run closer to $49.98/month after your first month to get 3070TI equivalent with an additional monthly expense for storage of those games up to $12 for 1TB The other would be AirGPU which is pay by the hour and by storage, which would add up pretty quick.
Tough call. If you’ve had another generation of either console I’d say just go with that again for the new one. If this is your first console then I’d look over the game libraries (or test them with cloud gaming) in case there are any exclusives that you’d want to play. Or if the majority of people you’re playing with online are on a certain console, then get that one.
@@JustinMiller_Tech Nice. I currently am trying BlackNut and Utomik using their free trials. 7 and 14 day, respectively. BlackNut is doing well so far with some of the games I have played. Utomik is decent.
Xbox game pass includes a few hundred games that you can play over cloud where you don’t need to own them. A lot of the services do have select free games, but are lesser known titles with the exception of games like Fortnite.
There could be a couple that don’t crossover if GFN hasn’t added support yet. I have 133 just from PC game pass. Is that what you’re also seeing available?
Nice Informative Video....on my 4k smart tv nvidia GeForce gives only 2-5 FPS ,yes funny and horrible too :) .......but when i cap my FPS to 30 it works with no problem what may be the reason? btw i have unlimited 100 Mbps internet
My guess would be that the TV is struggling to decode and handle a high frame rate stream so GFN is compensating and dropping fps. With the cap you’re receiving a 30fps locked stream and the decoder is under less strain, so it runs more smoothly.
One of the lucky ones! I used to get quite a bit more lag and delay when playing on the cloud a couple years ago. This experience now is massively improved
@@JustinMiller_Tech yea my pink like 3ms lol 😂 I check the Microsoft server thing and never got even when it was in batt but I do understand it ever body can but I did play crash at Walmart on 5G and it ran flawless tho got the video on my TH-cam channel
@@anonymous7egend That usually happens when your network latency is high so the Xbox servers optimize the game resolution to prevent lagging I actually like it more than GForceNow because of how easy it is to play the games on any device with Xcloud
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Yesterday I discovered Xbox cloud gaming - I had a 3 month game pass subscription with some hardware I bought and it blew me away. I just loaded Assassin's Creed Origins on my Samsung S20!
Madness.
It really is! The amount of options with cloud gaming blew my mind.
For people with poor internet connections, I'd say no. Even with a good connection you can't own the games and its a generally worse experience if you have half decent hardware.
I agree - if the internet connection is poor, it's not going to be good, which is why I included minimum bandwidth requirement comparisons for each of these services. In my testing running over WiFi I didn't experience much lag aside from Amazon Luna.
I did compare the performance to my home PC which has a 3070 and a Ryzen 5600x (I think that's half decent) and the GeForce Now setup outperformed it significantly in terms of resolution output and pure FPS performance.
As for game ownership, GeForce now is one of the only services in this review which you actually do own your games and that was the main reason it was recommended at the end as my #1 choice
With geforce now you can own the games and when you buy a pc later install them locally and play. Doesnt fix the internet issue but just a bonus imo.
Check the license agreement you just accepted to create a steam account, you will be shocked that you don't even own the games...
@@vladro.7741 I feel this is true with any digital game where you're just purchasing a license to play the game and don't actually own it.
apparently you havent heard that digital downloads can be taken from you at anytime so even if you buy it you dont own it
Great video, thank you so much.
There's a big catch with GeForce Now. It can stream in 4k 120Hz which feels fantastic imo but you need a good *decoder* on your device. For example smart TVs can't run the service at 4k 120hz at all. Most of them struggle with 1080p 60Hz and add massive input lag.
Besides that I truly believe that it can replace someones PC or console in a lot of cases. Depending on your connection the input lag isn't too bad at all and they've come a long way. I can even play FPS games fine, but there is a slight hit in K/D so obviously not recommended for competitive players.
Solid point on the TVs, I didn't have a compatible TV to try it out, but even using the Firestick Max to try Luna or Game Pass it wasn't all too ideal, so can definitely see how it would be lag similar to that.
You're in the same boat as me here. Was surprised to see how much better some games compared to my actual PC. I've tried a few FPS games with GeForce and they all played great! I didn't feel like I was at a disadvantage due to latency, since it all felt pretty snappy. I'm not a competitive player by any means, but if you're sitting down to have some fun it's a great experience.
@@JustinMiller_Tech you need a high end gaming tv to get the most out of cloud gaming, I have a samsung S95C OLED and works perfect at 4k 144hz, the only downside is you cant use M&K, only controller.
I have a Samsung Monitor and I play Xcloud and GeForce Now and personally I find Xcloud has a better connection and less lag than GeForce Now. The technology do is simply amazing no download, no install, no updates just play right away 😊👍👌
I do feel like Xbox prioritizes latency above all else and for the most part the experience was very good. Having GFN as another option is pretty nice though. Especially if you want to try and scale up some games that are a little more casual to play. I wish they had some sort of bundle offering to offset paying for two
I was really intrigued for the playstation one, but nevermind too many restrictions, decided to go with game pass i paid less than $100 and get 1 year subscription, and next month you can cloud your own game in it, more than happy.
Agree geforce now is king of cloud gaming!
In terms of how stable the experience is
Even on lower speed connections 9:50
I was surprised at how good it actually is!
The video i was looking for
Yeah I'm using GeforceNow at the moment. It's still not like a local machine. 120 fps stream feels rather like 60 fps with stutters here and there but still, it is a good option for singleplayer titles if you wait for new hardware to come out or just don't really care about high refresh gaming.
Xbox game pass and Amazon Luna are great and all but the lack in availability across African regions
I think ultimate is the best bang for your buck if you don't own a console or any games. The library alone is enough reason to consider game pass ultimate.
Solid video. Thank you for breaking it down easily per usual.
Appreciate it!
Nice presentation of options!
Thanks! Tried to address most common questions.
Any of them stand out to you as a good option?
Well done video
To be fair to Luna and yes I'm a casual gamer you did not test Luna with the Amazon Controller that does not use Bluetooth and connects directly to WiFi which compared to all the other services which I've tried is the absolute best when it comes to Latency. And Luna is still at it's infancy when it comes to games. But yes with Luna use a Luna Controller you'll see the big difference
I saw they had a controller, but wasn’t sure if I wanted to commit to spending money if I didn’t enjoy the service. But from your experience it sounds like it’s worth giving it another go
I just wish all controllers connect to WiFi
i almost never have a problem with auto updating games, since all my single player games are pirated. they only update when i manually go pirate the newer version
And they play just fine with full support usually or do you mean like single player games that don’t require an online connection?
@@JustinMiller_Tech single player games that don't require an online connection
Thanks for such detailed info. Although I do have a question..I have been a PC Gamer all my life..but recently I have decided to give console gaming a try..so my question is.. if I buy a game on steam (during those big steam sales obviously) which is a PC platform, will I be able to play that same game on Xbox as well for free via these cloud services?? Or do I have to purchase again ??.. please answer..
Yes and no. In the sense of accessing another platform like GeForce Now from your Xbox via the browser, you could play your steam games on console, but the experience will not be that great for most games.
If you want the console versions of the game from steam, that won't work and you'd have to buy it again.
Option 3. Get game pass ultimate and you'd be able to play both console and PC games on Xbox, PC, and supported cloud gaming platforms.
My last experience with cloud gaming was a few years ago where it worked great until someone else in my home started using the internet as well, then it became unplayable. Has it gotten better in that sense?
What’s your Internet plan looking like or has it been upgraded in the last few years? Do you think maybe the bandwidth was an issue for two users?
The review definitely lacks a boosteroid. He has a library of games on par with Geforce now, or even more, a beautiful design and, of course, cross-platform. In general, a top service for me
I realize after a few other comments like this that I should have probably added it in, but the reason I didn’t initially was due to pricing only being offered in Euros and didn’t want to mix in alternative currencies or conversions.
Can you play your own games when you’re away from home. For instance, would I be able to play COD multiplayer once I’m away from home based on Xbox profile? Or is it select games based on game pass with no multiplayer?
You can play anywhere and it would include multiplayer. Like if you were on a cruise in the middle of the ocean you could still access your library with current save data and pick up where you left off at home.
Please do a ranking only for 4K cloud streaming services. XBox is still only HD, it's a big difference. :)
Which would you be curious about? I only really know of four of them.
GFN would be the cheapest option since they are still running their 50% off promo where you can get ultimate tier for 9.99.
Boosteroid Ultra recently came to USA, which would be around $19.84/month after Euro conversion.
Both of those allow for Xbox Game Pass & Steam game synching, so you can add your existing library. While GFN also adds Epic Games and Ubisoft.
Then you have options like Shadow that would run closer to $49.98/month after your first month to get 3070TI equivalent with an additional monthly expense for storage of those games up to $12 for 1TB
The other would be AirGPU which is pay by the hour and by storage, which would add up pretty quick.
@@JustinMiller_Tech Thanks a lot. So only Nvidia GeForce Now and Boosteroid really make a sense. Subscribed!
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Can i have your personal opinion about which console should i buy xbox series x or the ps5 i had too many opinions, and I'm lost right now.
Tough call. If you’ve had another generation of either console I’d say just go with that again for the new one.
If this is your first console then I’d look over the game libraries (or test them with cloud gaming) in case there are any exclusives that you’d want to play. Or if the majority of people you’re playing with online are on a certain console, then get that one.
GeForce Now has been relatively pleasant for me. The Xbox Cloud is ok but not as good in terms of performance.
I agree! Out of the four services I had, I came back to GFN the most often. Now it’s the only service I’m using.
Have you tried any others?
@@JustinMiller_Tech Nice. I currently am trying BlackNut and Utomik using their free trials. 7 and 14 day, respectively. BlackNut is doing well so far with some of the games I have played. Utomik is decent.
I don't' think BlackNut had this free trial when I made the video, so I'll def be trying that one out too now!
is there some cloud gaming where you dont need to own game?
Xbox game pass includes a few hundred games that you can play over cloud where you don’t need to own them.
A lot of the services do have select free games, but are lesser known titles with the exception of games like Fortnite.
BUT only a few PC Game Pass games are playable thru GFN? that's what I'm seeing after subscribing to both 🥵
There could be a couple that don’t crossover if GFN hasn’t added support yet.
I have 133 just from PC game pass. Is that what you’re also seeing available?
over 145 games what are you talking about?
Nice Informative Video....on my 4k smart tv nvidia GeForce gives only 2-5 FPS ,yes funny and horrible too :) .......but when i cap my FPS to 30 it works with no problem
what may be the reason?
btw i have unlimited 100 Mbps internet
My guess would be that the TV is struggling to decode and handle a high frame rate stream so GFN is compensating and dropping fps.
With the cap you’re receiving a 30fps locked stream and the decoder is under less strain, so it runs more smoothly.
It never suck for me at all
One of the lucky ones! I used to get quite a bit more lag and delay when playing on the cloud a couple years ago. This experience now is massively improved
@@JustinMiller_Tech yea my pink like 3ms lol 😂 I check the Microsoft server thing and never got even when it was in batt but I do understand it ever body can but I did play crash at Walmart on 5G and it ran flawless tho got the video on my TH-cam channel
How the title cloud gaming and you talking about 4 to 5 dif platforms... geesh
Should I have done more?
Xbox cloud still sucks
What are you playing on?
No it doesn't 😒
@@shravan012 very very pixelated. 720p. They need GFN servers
@@anonymous7egend That usually happens when your network latency is high so the Xbox servers optimize the game resolution to prevent lagging
I actually like it more than GForceNow because of how easy it is to play the games on any device with Xcloud