Impressive technology, but why introduce it on a hooligan bike like the MT-09? Seems odd as I would think this would be more applicable to the Tracer for touring. My hope is you don't think we ALL want an automatic. Please offer this as an option rather than replacing the manual transmissions, and the traditional clutch lever and foot shifter. I respectfully disagree that this technology will make anyone more "one" with the bike. I believe it will do the opposite, it will disconnect the rider from what is going on and make them more of a passive participant in the riding experience :(
Looking to replace my Honda NC700SD with another naked and as Honda no longer do the NC700 or 750 in a S naked style I have been looking at the new Auto's coming on the market and the new MT09 and MT07 are looking favourite at this time so it all depends on price and size as I am short and like to put both feet down at a standstill.
The MT-09 SP is an acclaimed bike. I hope Yamaha will be more focused on quality of the fitting on the 2025 model. Being able to see through the lower part of the seat is a clear sign of improvements being very much needed, The same for the tubing and cabling choices. I personally hope a larger TFT will less useless frame and a better looking headlight cluster.
What takes the place of intuitively finessing (i..e. partly slipping) the clutch on a large capacity machine in a very low speed complex situation needing it? For example we have a very steep, twisting hill with reflex bends at least one of which needs a momentarily slipped clutch to give smooth direction change without risk of running out of road while matching the speed changes of cars front and rear. How does the robotic box cope with that? There are similar extreme situations which can arise in very heavy traffic jams, especially when filtering. (Actually this is already one natural limitation on the use of quick-shifters.) So - how does the new box do this kind of thing for you? Is it just that you always have to go into fully automatic mode in these situations? If so, you will have to go into automatic mode as quickly, and intuitively, as you used to finesse the clutch when you find yourself suddenly in a too-tight situation. Alternatively, you will have to anticipate likely problems and go into automatic mode quite early. Nevertheless I'm still not sure I would ever trust my automatic box as much as I trust my instinctive light tweak on the clutch.half way round a reflex, surprising, steeply descending bend. We shall see. Other than that, I wonder - is this innovation going to increase or decrease dependency on rider skills? If it decreases dependence, surely that takes away from the experience. It was (past tense) always surely about pleasure in the exercise of skill.
This is the only video that actually explains how this works instead of just describing 'what it do'. Great coverage on this.
Best review of this system so far. Complimenti !
Great review - thanks for sharing.
definitely must have! 🤘
Impressive technology, but why introduce it on a hooligan bike like the MT-09? Seems odd as I would think this would be more applicable to the Tracer for touring. My hope is you don't think we ALL want an automatic. Please offer this as an option rather than replacing the manual transmissions, and the traditional clutch lever and foot shifter. I respectfully disagree that this technology will make anyone more "one" with the bike. I believe it will do the opposite, it will disconnect the rider from what is going on and make them more of a passive participant in the riding experience :(
Looking to replace my Honda NC700SD with another naked and as Honda no longer do the NC700 or 750 in a S naked style I have been looking at the new Auto's coming on the market and the new MT09 and MT07 are looking favourite at this time so it all depends on price and size as I am short and like to put both feet down at a standstill.
I want a MT09 SP Y-AMT
The MT-09 SP is an acclaimed bike. I hope Yamaha will be more focused on quality of the fitting on the 2025 model. Being able to see through the lower part of the seat is a clear sign of improvements being very much needed, The same for the tubing and cabling choices. I personally hope a larger TFT will less useless frame and a better looking headlight cluster.
What takes the place of intuitively finessing (i..e. partly slipping) the clutch on a large capacity machine in a very low speed complex situation needing it? For example we have a very steep, twisting hill with reflex bends at least one of which needs a momentarily slipped clutch to give smooth direction change without risk of running out of road while matching the speed changes of cars front and rear. How does the robotic box cope with that? There are similar extreme situations which can arise in very heavy traffic jams, especially when filtering. (Actually this is already one natural limitation on the use of quick-shifters.) So - how does the new box do this kind of thing for you? Is it just that you always have to go into fully automatic mode in these situations? If so, you will have to go into automatic mode as quickly, and intuitively, as you used to finesse the clutch when you find yourself suddenly in a too-tight situation. Alternatively, you will have to anticipate likely problems and go into automatic mode quite early. Nevertheless I'm still not sure I would ever trust my automatic box as much as I trust my instinctive light tweak on the clutch.half way round a reflex, surprising, steeply descending bend. We shall see. Other than that, I wonder - is this innovation going to increase or decrease dependency on rider skills? If it decreases dependence, surely that takes away from the experience. It was (past tense) always surely about pleasure in the exercise of skill.
Does the automatic mode consider lean angle on its choices to shift up or down?
Yes but not only lean, it works on a lot of parameters.
I heard from differents reviews that right now it doesn't take lean information and can change gear while leaning. Not so fun i guess.
Right. IS IT POSSIBLE TO STILL PULL A WHEELIE?
Of course. I can wheelie a Vespa.
How would you do wheelies without the clutch?
Power wheelies only