lancecf22 who acctually did do the dislikes it's just because they can't fly the plane and there jealous of you because you can acctually fly the plane and they can't
Thank you, some good tips. In my opinion, some parts of landing technique may vary depending on plane, landing surface and length of landing field. My experience has been if I am landing on grass, any extra speed I carry with me on landing increases my chances of flipping and if I am landing on the paved surfaces I have available then any extra speed causes me problems because the surface is bumpy. The faster I'm going the more likely I am to bounce back up into the air when I hit a bad bump. So, I try to get my speed down as much as possible before touch down. To avoid the stall problems I wait until just inches above the runway before throttle cut. I do this for my warbird tail draggers and Sukhoi aerobatic plane. On the tail draggers I slowly keep easing the elevator back and hold it back during touch down. On my T-28 tricycle gear plane, I release the elevator just before touch down to avoid bouncing. Landing with extra speed also requires a longer runway and I already sometimes have trouble trying to land at our field and sometimes run off the end of the runway into the grass and flip. I'm new at this and open to constructive comments. This is what is working for me so far.
I had a foam plane, around $50 that I got for Christmas. Lost it in a tree. Eventually it came down. Then I climbed too high, and couldn’t descend fast enough, so it flew off the property. Might ask for another one.
it is hard to un-learn bad habits especially if you have developed a technique that works for you. i guess thats why guys would disagree with this tutorial. I burned thru 6 batteries yesterday practicing these techniques. I bet i did 40 + landings. Take off-one lap-land-roll to slow and go back up. t-28 no flaps but my FMS 800mm p-51 i added flaps. when you come in with speed and flaps, she slows way down as soon as throttle is reduced. THESE TIPS ARE GOLD
Sean, I'm envious of your practice time! Concentrating on one aspect of flying at a time really is key to improving. I'm really happy you got some positive results!
more practice today. getting much softer touchdown at speed with the mustang. im such a bank and yank. i need to get used to using the rudder in the air. epic cross wind today
@@seanmolloy9422 Getting that rudder coordinated with ailerons is tough! It's so subtle on a model plane. I think i need to dial back my in flight rudder, I have way to high of a swing and it almost sends my plane sideways in the air.
@@lancecf22 my brain just cant handle both hands doing something else and the plane now acting different. like using rudder to point the nose and alerons at the same time to keep wings level. it works great till i get lost between the ears. im smooth, confident and skilled with one stick, add the second and ..... practice practice practice.
If your a real rated pilot, the explanation in the video is as if you were really flying an actual airplane. Same techniques minus the battery part. Pretty cool.
I fly both full scale and RC, and I think this is not good advice. First, a plane does not change course efficiently if the wings are level. Second, using rudder only forces the plane into uncoordinated flight, which is usually not a good thing. My suggestion is to maintain center line by making normal turns using both ailerons and rudder but do not bank more than about 20 degrees when near the ground. Also, when landing in a crosswind, do not let the up-wind wing rise as you can see at 2:48 . This only adds to your problems. If the crosswind is steady, you can fly the entire approach with the up-wind wing low, and if you're good, even touch down first on the up-wind wheel.
I tried this method today as soon as I saw this video. I’m a new pilot but I am now flying warbirds and EDF Jets. I’m a chop and dropper but I learned that can be not a good idea a lot of times lol. Today there was little to no wind at all and I had the worst time trying to slow my plane down even with the throttle down to 1/3. And I kept overshooting the runway. Any tips on landing in little to zero wind conditions? A video or reply to my comment would be greatly appreciated 😁
I apologize for the very, very late reply. Yes, landing in zero headwind can be challenging because your plane just wants to keep going! If you have flaps put them all the way down, reduce your throttle to near zero if the plane still has a ton of lift on approach and be prepared to add a little power as you touch down to keep the tail up on touch down. It's been a year since you became a new pilot so I hope you are still enjoying your new hobby!
quick tip, when you land, and get to a few inches off the ground, make sure you pull back and make sure the nose wheel doesn't touch. for nose wheel planes.
@@lancecf22 worked on this with the T-28 yesterday. landing faster makes it easier till you hit some rough runway. having the front wheel up helps. flairing the mustang doesnt seem to work yet. that one wants to be flown all the way to contact
Is it possible for an rc plane has auto land ability because it can help especially in low visibility conditions. Airbus aircraft has ILS CAT III Approach.
I OWN THE 1/4 HANGAR 9 SUPER CUB. THE MANUAL SAYS TO ADD SOME DOWN ELEVATOR WHEN THE FLAPS ARE FULLY DEPLOYED. DO YOU THING THAT THIS IS GOING TO GIVE ME EXTRA PROBLEMS DURING LANDING? I HAVE NO PROBLEM LANDING IT WITHOUT FLAPS AT ALL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SCALE LANDINGS WITH FULL FLAPS...THANKS IN ADVANCE
I have a Eflite (PT19 44 inch wing no flaps , electric , and when I land I always seem to nose over on the grass sometimes I get lucky and it lands nice , what can I do to land without the nose over?
What a cool plane!! The small landing gear wheels and the tendency of the plane to be a little nose heavy make it tough to prevent nosing over on grass. If you nose over during taxi on any surface then that surface is also going to cause nosing over during a landing. The landing gear looks like it's pretty rigid and fixed, but if any portion of the landing gear can be bent 'or raked' slightly forward this will definitely help to prevent nosing over. Also, adding larger, wider wheels that will roll better on grass will help significantly.
Very good question! And of course any good question does not have a straight answer. So, in reality 25% throttle is just an approximation that we are using here as guidance. It all depends on the amount of lift generated by the wings at any given condition. If there is a strong headwind then 25% throttle might actually cause the plane to climb! Are you using flaps? How much flaps? We can maintain straight and level flight a much lower throttle setting if we are using 100% flaps. So, we should really think of this as a variable line on our throttle. Think of your 'decent' line like this: 0% quick decent----25% moderate decent----50% slow decent ----100% straight and level--> This 'decent' line could fall anywhere on the throttle swing. The max (100%) is wherever the aircraft is maintaining altitude on the throttle swing. So you would cut the throttle to 25% of straight and level to generate a good landing decent rate. Does that make sense!?
This tutorial can only be applied to powered planes. A glider is limited to control surfaces only. You have to bleed off speed using drag (pulling back on the stick slightly) during descent and nosing forward will increase your speed so that principal is the same. But lack of throttle creates a much more challenging landing!
Nice landing, and considering the fact that it was a landing with TAIL WIND, it was fantastic. The very basic thing would be to land always AGAINST the wind if possible, rather than with the wind (see the ribbon on the left side of the picture which indicates the plane is landing with the wind). Landing with the wind increases your ground speed, while you have to maintain your airspeed to be above the stalling speed.
Hi, am I right to believe that when you landed you landed at half throttle and just used the elevator to slow the plane down? Did you only reduce the throttle further once you had touched down?
Thank you for your question! I have text in the video that I'm landing between 1/4 and 1/3 throttle. In truth you are kind of oscillating the speed back and forth as needed to maintain your glide slope toward the ground. The throttle position is really just for reference, every plane is going to have different drag characteristics so the pilot needs to adjust the throttle position based on what the plane is doing. I think the main point is that warbirds need to be landed under power as opposed to a no throttle landing. Warbirds are low wing aircraft and have more performance based aerodynamics requiring greater power to produce lift under the wings, as opposed to a high wing aircraft that comes with a lot of lift built into the design of the plane. I hope this helps!
Any idea why some planes baloon up as they come into land, even on a calm day? Also is there a way of preventing this from happening as this makes me overshoot my target area?
Hi 786free, it depends on if you are using flaps or not. How fast do the flaps come down? If flaps on not on a slow servo then their quick deployment will almost certainly cause the plane to balloon. However if you are not using flaps, then even a slight bit of wind will affect the plane as it slows down. The faster a plane is moving the more lift it will have, however a smaller plane will get blown around a lot more at slower speeds. You might try adding a little bit more power on your approach for a steadier decent. My RC Plane Landing Tutorial - Part 2 talks a little bit about this. Thank you for the comment!
I have found that the use of flaps really depends on the amount of wind and size of the aircraft. If you are landing into a strong headwind, use less flaps. If you are landing with little to no wind use full flaps. As always, do a low pass to test your flaps setting before actually touching down on the runway. If the air speed looks good on a low pass then go around and land for real. If your speed is too high or too low then adjust your flaps setting and do another low pass to check your speed again. Watch my 2nd tutorial that talks about low passes. Good luck and please post a video of your Delta wing!
Thank you. Last week is raining and winding at my field. My plane is Hangar 9 F-22 Raptor, wingspan 1.2m, 3.7kg weight ,powered by 5S-5000mAh battery. I have installed Ar636a (taken from my T-28), made a few mods. I will try to use safe select just for few landing (wings level).
That is a great question. Personally I use low rates for landing, but I think it really depends on several factors. First you must consider your setup and the difference between the swing of your control surfaces between high and low rates. I think a lot of pilots might argue that high rates give you more control at slower speeds. Also, how are your thumbs calibrated?? :) I think if I used high rates on landing there would be a lot of foam and parts strewn across the runway after my landing was complete! Seriously though, it deserves some thought and definitely deserves some experimentation. I would recommend doing a couple of low passes on low rates and a couple of low passes on high rates to see how comfortable you feel with each. Maybe you choose differently in windy versus calm conditions? You've made me very curious, so I'm going to try it both ways then next time I go out to fly! Thank you for the question and please let me know your results!
Thx for your reply. I have been experimenting with both and seem to find take off on low rates good but landing on high rates gives me better results..im using a dx4e Tx non computerised. As you mentioned at slower speeds high rates gives me better response.
As a newbie my biggest problem is when the a/c is on final and I can't seem to get the aileron inputs correct when the a/c is coming towards me I get the inputs reversed. Of course when the a/c is flying away from me I put myself as if I was in the a/c and the inputs are seemless once I get established on final is when I start to over correct the inputs in the wrong direction. I wish someone would explain that skill and how to do it correctly.
Hey! What about a warbird that doesn’t have flaps? Also it isn’t SUPER powerful and can’t do verticals (I haven’t even flown it yet but I know the motor isn’t that powerful. Plane’s weight is around 2 pounds and the motor puts out around 1.8-1.9 pounds of thrust…)
No flaps landings are awesome, things are just happening a little faster, that's all! The lift bubble under the aircraft is a little more pronounced when you are moving faster, so just give yourself a little extra runway. I recommend practicing with some really low passes without touching down the first couple of approaches so you can feel that lift bubble near the ground. You will find you have a lot of responsive control if you keep the throttle applied just a little, try not to cut the throttle completely. My second landing tutorial covers this concept in a little more detail. Good luck!
@@lancecf22 thank you so much! I’ll watch the second tutorial right away! I recently built a FliteTest mustang, extremely customised and has retractable landing gear… but it doesn’t have flaps- i can fly good but this plane turned out so good I don’t wanna accidentally ruin it on a bad landing/crash 😅 Ill prolly practice your method on my trainer first (it’s a bit tail heavy so it always pitches up- can’t adjust cg cuz no space-) before I maiden my mustang… I’m still in the very beginner phase of landings… I’ve never taken off either cuz I’ve just hand launched planes… never had landing gear either… Now I’ve made one for the trainer and got retracts on mustang… thanks for the tutorial… Edit: I watched the second video! I always cut off throttle once the plane gets close the the ground… 😅 but again, until now, my trainer was a belly lander… didn’t have gear… it does now so I’ll give it a try! Again, thank you! I’ll update you on how my landing goes when I go out to fly again! And I’ll also update when I finally fly the mustang! I subbed :)
Man, I completely understand. When you put that much work into a new bird you don't want to fly it at all! Ha ha! I have to say I got better at repairing them than flying them. Now I always use an extremely long drill bit and then insert carbon fiber rods into the fuselage and wings to save myself some future grief. The rods are expensive, but they are a lot cheaper than having to scrap a plane. Take a video of your flights! I would love to see your new Mustang!
@@lancecf22 I most certainly will! Thanks! I did try your method on my trainer today! I put on the landing gear i made for it which are literally secured by rubberbands, and i flew it. Hand launched it and landed it on the wheels... I must say, the "throttle for climb and descent and elevator for speed" gave me SO much more control over the plane when i was near the ground... I also managed to cruise it at 50% throttle (which i thought was impossible as the motor is a bit underpowered)... I followed your tips and I had an EXTREMELY successful landing today! I'll practice more on the trainer before sending in the mustang though... But I'll record a video of the maiden and share with ya for sure! Thanks again man! I jusy had my mosy successful landing today!
Lot's of RC planes do not come equipped with flaps and it's also not a good idea to use flaps on a windy day. The trick to having no flaps is to come in with a little bit more speed! I know that sounds scary, but you will have much more control over the plane with a bit more speed. Remember, you need air moving across the control surfaces to maintain control. Flaps reduce the amount of air flow needed to maintain lift, if you don't have flaps then speed is your friend. Give it a go!
lancecf22 lancecf22 oh cheers. if you look on my TH-cam where I flown my rc plane it got taken straight down as soon as it took off. How do I turn my plane aswell because it doesn't have a rudder one engine powers down and the other powers up any ideas? ✈️
3pa Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Wind direction is coming from the right to left in the video and we land left to right into the wind, so no tail wind.
3pa Oh that wind sock was definitely pointing in all directions that day! it was really gusting, but the prevailing wind was right to left. You have a good eye for detail!
lancecf22. Guess it was timing, but when you landed that little ribbon was so going in the direction of the plane landing. Plenty plenty good information.
The throttle percentages are really just for reference because every aircraft and controller is going to be a little different. Try a few practice descents without landing to find out where your aircraft starts to descend on the throttle setting. Watch my second video about approaches and that might help a little more. Ideally you want to be able to increase/decrease your speed by pitching the airplane up and down. Pitching up should decelerate, while pitching down should accelerate. I hope this helps!
The landing myth that a model airplane would slow down during landing by pulling the nose up and increase or decrease elevation only by using throttle is not true. The concept of the throttle and the elevator switching roles is a myth. The fact is, the model airplane does not decrease airspeed by pulling the nose up. What actually happens is that by decreasing throttle, you decrease airspeed which causes the nose to dive down due to gravity and inertia. By pulling the nose up, you level the airplane while maintaining its current airspeed. The lower you throttle the slow you go, and the more you need to pull up. It's not because of the pulling the nose up of the airplane that causes it to slow down. However, you can increase the airspeed of the plane by pulling the nose down due to increase of force that the airplane is headed and gravity. But you cannot decrease its speed while pulling up on the nose in a landing situation. Use the elevator to pull up to level the plane on the ground and prevent nose diving on landing. Use the throttle to control both the airspeed and decent of the plane. Fact: You'll notice that using flaps on the plane causes it to climb up and decreasing throttle causes it to fly straight. Allowing you to pull up less on the elevator. Fact: The flap does not actually slow down the plane on landing, it TRIES to maintains its altitude, while the plane loses airspeed and altitude to land land. Try flying the plane with flaps down at half throttle and you'll notice that the plane maintains altitude and airspeed. Decrease the throttle down and the plane increases airspeed and noses down. The same happens while the plane is near the ground.
Romeo, thank you for your comment and you bring up some very valid points! The elevator is an energy exchanger. If you don't touch the throttle and use up elevator then you exchange airspeed for altitude, if you don't touch throttle and use down elevator then you exchange altitude for airspeed. But eventually, if you maintain your elevator up/nose up then your kinetic energy will decrease and gravity takes over and you start to descend. It is a balancing act not to stall in this configuration and the physics of this are exaggerated at slower speeds. You are correct, using flaps increases lift across the wing so you can fly straight and level at a lower airspeed. However, slowing down further than the airplane will fly level the elevator (either by reducing throttle or using up elevator to exchange a little altitude for airspeed) you will notice that you can start a descend, even with a nose up attitude. This is precisely how naval aircraft approach an aircraft carrier at very slow speeds with full flaps, nose up and still come down on the deck! The same applies for moving the throttle without elevator input. More throttle, more lift and altitude increases. Less throttle, less lift, altitude decreases. Of course, we have to utilize all inputs when landing and rarely use one input exclusively. The instructional video is meant to highlight the main inputs for controlling the descent during landing. I encourage you to experiment and see for yourself!
Although you achieve what you want I don't subscribe to the elevator controls speed & the throttle controls altitude belief, that's been a misconception for a while now, they are what I call reaction effects. The elevator should be used to point the toy plane where you want it to go, the gad pedal should be used to control speed, that's what the gas pedal is for speed, not alt control, again its just a reaction effect. Each to their own.
You make an excellent observation! We are using a reaction effect. We are reacting to three other forces acting on the plane when using this method: Gravity, Lift and Drag (remembering that lift increases drag). Try this experiment: Fly straight and level and then input a little bit of up elevator and hold it. The plane will start to climb exactly as you described. But the plane is also feeling the effects of gravity and drag. As the plane climbs it also slows down! If you don't apply throttle during the climb the plane will eventually slow down to a stall and nose forward. When it noses forward the speed will increase and the plane will recover from the stall without ever apply throttle. So yes, your elevator is controlling both altitude AND speed (although the pilot is only controlling the altitude part of the equation and the Earth is controlling the gravity and drag which slows the plane down!). So we use these same reactions during a landing. The plane is descending because of gravity we when reduce the throttle. If we apply throttle during the decent the thrust will overcome the pull of gravity with lift and the plane will level out or climb. With slight nose forward and low throttle the drag is decreased on the plane and it will start to speed up.. If we nose up the drag is increased slowing us down but the low thrust is not enough to overcome the pull of gravity so the plane tends not to climb.
As a newbie my biggest problem is when the a/c is on final and I can't seem to get the aileron inputs correct when the a/c is coming towards me I get the inputs reversed. Of course when the a/c is flying away from me I put myself as if I was in the a/c and the inputs are seemless once I get established on final is when I start to over correct the inputs in the wrong direction. I wish someone would explain that skill and how to do it correctly.
Try pointing your left shoulder towards the plane if it is coming in from your left, or your shoulder towards the plane if it is coming in from your right. And kind of pointing your controller as if it was oriented correctly with the cockpit when you turn your shoulder. It's a subtle move but very powerful way to set your brain in the proper orientation to not mix up your inputs!
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This is a very clear tutorial. Thank you so much fo making my landings 15 times better!
Dorcas, I'm really happy that your landings are getting better! Thank you for the kind words
OK own up .. who disliked this video .. thanx for taking the time to put this video together hopefully lots of new pilots will benefit from this
Ha ha! I'm not sure who did the dislike, but to each his own. I'm glad YOU enjoyed it!
lancecf22 who acctually did do the dislikes it's just because they can't fly the plane and there jealous of you because you can acctually fly the plane and they can't
Thank you, some good tips. In my opinion, some parts of landing technique may vary depending on plane, landing surface and length of landing field.
My experience has been if I am landing on grass, any extra speed I carry with me on landing increases my chances of flipping and if I am landing on the paved surfaces I have available then any extra speed causes me problems because the surface is bumpy. The faster I'm going the more likely I am to bounce back up into the air when I hit a bad bump.
So, I try to get my speed down as much as possible before touch down. To avoid the stall problems I wait until just inches above the runway before throttle cut.
I do this for my warbird tail draggers and Sukhoi aerobatic plane.
On the tail draggers I slowly keep easing the elevator back and hold it back during touch down. On my T-28 tricycle gear plane, I release the elevator just before touch down to avoid bouncing.
Landing with extra speed also requires a longer runway and I already sometimes have trouble trying to land at our field and sometimes run off the end of the runway into the grass and flip.
I'm new at this and open to constructive comments. This is what is working for me so far.
you're welcome, I'm glad you found it helpful. Good luck with your new plane!
Nice video! Very useful! Best set of videos on landing I’ve seen. Very concise
one of the best video tutorial on landing i have seen so far! thanks for that.
Really.....down wind....
thank you. very helpful landing tips.
Great video and very helpful. thanks.
Awesome vid! This vid is worth the price of a nice rc warbird :)
Thanks for this informative tutorial!
You are very welcome, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliant landing tutorial. Thank you 👍
You are very welcome, I hope it helps!
wow ..nice sharing
Very cool . Thank you .
Most helpful to landing video out there! Wonderful job. You won a sub and like from me.
Thanks Ford, I'm glad you liked it!
wow, very helpful. I'm new to rc flying and I just bought a beginner edf jet. I'm looking forward to practicing soon! Much thanks for this vid!
I had a foam plane, around $50 that I got for Christmas. Lost it in a tree. Eventually it came down. Then I climbed too high, and couldn’t descend fast enough, so it flew off the property. Might ask for another one.
Thank you! Post a video of your new plane when you get it and share!
Very informative. Thanks
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
it is hard to un-learn bad habits especially if you have developed a technique that works for you. i guess thats why guys would disagree with this tutorial. I burned thru 6 batteries yesterday practicing these techniques. I bet i did 40 + landings. Take off-one lap-land-roll to slow and go back up. t-28 no flaps but my FMS 800mm p-51 i added flaps. when you come in with speed and flaps, she slows way down as soon as throttle is reduced. THESE TIPS ARE GOLD
Sean, I'm envious of your practice time! Concentrating on one aspect of flying at a time really is key to improving. I'm really happy you got some positive results!
more practice today. getting much softer touchdown at speed with the mustang. im such a bank and yank. i need to get used to using the rudder in the air. epic cross wind today
@@seanmolloy9422 Getting that rudder coordinated with ailerons is tough! It's so subtle on a model plane. I think i need to dial back my in flight rudder, I have way to high of a swing and it almost sends my plane sideways in the air.
@@lancecf22 my brain just cant handle both hands doing something else and the plane now acting different. like using rudder to point the nose and alerons at the same time to keep wings level. it works great till i get lost between the ears. im smooth, confident and skilled with one stick, add the second and ..... practice practice practice.
If your a real rated pilot, the explanation in the video is as if you were really flying an actual airplane. Same techniques minus the battery part. Pretty cool.
Thank so much for your lesson
You are very welcome!
Good explanation thank
Thank you
Last one looked like a downwind landing :-)
for RC sea planes when you touch the water pull up ever so gently
Thanks. What would happen if you used the aileron insted of the rudder wholst trying to land?
Thankyou
Sir..thanks 👍
Advice to new pilots....... Do not practice landing on a street with curbs. You will screw up a lot of planes that way.
Big parking lots.
What about a baseball field? (Without players)
Nice gooodd!!
Thanks, this is very helpful.
One question, why not also use the ailerons to correct your course, why just the rudder?
I fly both full scale and RC, and I think this is not good advice. First, a plane does not change course efficiently if the wings are level. Second, using rudder only forces the plane into uncoordinated flight, which is usually not a good thing. My suggestion is to maintain center line by making normal turns using both ailerons and rudder but do not bank more than about 20 degrees when near the ground.
Also, when landing in a crosswind, do not let the up-wind wing rise as you can see at 2:48 . This only adds to your problems. If the crosswind is steady, you can fly the entire approach with the up-wind wing low, and if you're good, even touch down first on the up-wind wheel.
How many times have ya nailed that curb?
thanks for that, I'm 74 years old and just getting in to the hobby
Congratulations on your new hobby! Would love to see some video of your new plane!
I'm 24 and trying to get into the hobby, it just goes to show that is a hobby for everybody!
@@greatcanadianmoose3965 and I'm 12 getting into the hobby so yes I agreed it's for everyone
I'm 104 and just got into the hobby.
I tried this method today as soon as I saw this video. I’m a new pilot but I am now flying warbirds and EDF Jets. I’m a chop and dropper but I learned that can be not a good idea a lot of times lol. Today there was little to no wind at all and I had the worst time trying to slow my plane down even with the throttle down to 1/3. And I kept overshooting the runway. Any tips on landing in little to zero wind conditions? A video or reply to my comment would be greatly appreciated 😁
I apologize for the very, very late reply. Yes, landing in zero headwind can be challenging because your plane just wants to keep going! If you have flaps put them all the way down, reduce your throttle to near zero if the plane still has a ton of lift on approach and be prepared to add a little power as you touch down to keep the tail up on touch down. It's been a year since you became a new pilot so I hope you are still enjoying your new hobby!
quick tip, when you land, and get to a few inches off the ground, make sure you pull back and make sure the nose wheel doesn't touch. for nose wheel planes.
Great advice on the flare for nose wheel aircraft!
@@lancecf22 worked on this with the T-28 yesterday. landing faster makes it easier till you hit some rough runway. having the front wheel up helps. flairing the mustang doesnt seem to work yet. that one wants to be flown all the way to contact
Hi is the RC plane okay has an approach speed of 20 miles and hour with a wing area of 353 square inches and it weighs 3kg.
Is it possible for an rc plane has auto land ability because it can help especially in low visibility conditions. Airbus aircraft has ILS CAT III Approach.
I OWN THE 1/4 HANGAR 9 SUPER CUB. THE MANUAL SAYS TO ADD SOME DOWN ELEVATOR WHEN THE FLAPS ARE FULLY DEPLOYED. DO YOU THING THAT THIS IS GOING TO GIVE ME EXTRA PROBLEMS DURING LANDING? I HAVE NO PROBLEM LANDING IT WITHOUT FLAPS AT ALL. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SCALE LANDINGS WITH FULL FLAPS...THANKS IN ADVANCE
Was that the 800mm F4U…?
me who has a foam plane: Flaps are non existent to me...
I have a Eflite (PT19 44 inch wing no flaps , electric , and when I land I always seem to nose over on the grass sometimes I get lucky and it lands nice , what can I do to land without the nose over?
What a cool plane!! The small landing gear wheels and the tendency of the plane to be a little nose heavy make it tough to prevent nosing over on grass. If you nose over during taxi on any surface then that surface is also going to cause nosing over during a landing. The landing gear looks like it's pretty rigid and fixed, but if any portion of the landing gear can be bent 'or raked' slightly forward this will definitely help to prevent nosing over. Also, adding larger, wider wheels that will roll better on grass will help significantly.
When landing if the throttle is reduced to 25% and kept at 25% would the plane continue to descend gradually and eventually land?
Very good question! And of course any good question does not have a straight answer. So, in reality 25% throttle is just an approximation that we are using here as guidance. It all depends on the amount of lift generated by the wings at any given condition. If there is a strong headwind then 25% throttle might actually cause the plane to climb! Are you using flaps? How much flaps? We can maintain straight and level flight a much lower throttle setting if we are using 100% flaps. So, we should really think of this as a variable line on our throttle. Think of your 'decent' line like this:
0% quick decent----25% moderate decent----50% slow decent ----100% straight and level-->
This 'decent' line could fall anywhere on the throttle swing. The max (100%) is wherever the aircraft is maintaining altitude on the throttle swing. So you would cut the throttle to 25% of straight and level to generate a good landing decent rate. Does that make sense!?
Will this work with any plane because I have a mini glider mustang
This tutorial can only be applied to powered planes. A glider is limited to control surfaces only. You have to bleed off speed using drag (pulling back on the stick slightly) during descent and nosing forward will increase your speed so that principal is the same. But lack of throttle creates a much more challenging landing!
Nice landing, and considering the fact that it was a landing with TAIL WIND, it was fantastic. The very basic thing would be to land always AGAINST the wind if possible, rather than with the wind (see the ribbon on the left side of the picture which indicates the plane is landing with the wind). Landing with the wind increases your ground speed, while you have to maintain your airspeed to be above the stalling speed.
Sorry, it is an optical illusion with the ribbon in the video. The plane is always landing against the wind.
Hi, am I right to believe that when you landed you landed at half throttle and just used the elevator to slow the plane down? Did you only reduce the throttle further once you had touched down?
Thank you for your question! I have text in the video that I'm landing between 1/4 and 1/3 throttle. In truth you are kind of oscillating the speed back and forth as needed to maintain your glide slope toward the ground. The throttle position is really just for reference, every plane is going to have different drag characteristics so the pilot needs to adjust the throttle position based on what the plane is doing. I think the main point is that warbirds need to be landed under power as opposed to a no throttle landing. Warbirds are low wing aircraft and have more performance based aerodynamics requiring greater power to produce lift under the wings, as opposed to a high wing aircraft that comes with a lot of lift built into the design of the plane. I hope this helps!
@@lancecf22 thanks. The video's been very helpful.
Any idea why some planes baloon up as they come into land, even on a calm day? Also is there a way of preventing this from happening as this makes me overshoot my target area?
Hi 786free, it depends on if you are using flaps or not. How fast do the flaps come down? If flaps on not on a slow servo then their quick deployment will almost certainly cause the plane to balloon.
However if you are not using flaps, then even a slight bit of wind will affect the plane as it slows down. The faster a plane is moving the more lift it will have, however a smaller plane will get blown around a lot more at slower speeds.
You might try adding a little bit more power on your approach for a steadier decent. My RC Plane Landing Tutorial - Part 2 talks a little bit about this.
Thank you for the comment!
@@lancecf22 thanks. I don't use flaps but I will certainly try using a bit more power on approach.
Your videos are very helpful. Thanks once again.
How to land delta swiped wings rc plane, like F-22, F-35 and rc jet plane ? Full or half flaps deploy ?
Thank you.
I have found that the use of flaps really depends on the amount of wind and size of the aircraft. If you are landing into a strong headwind, use less flaps. If you are landing with little to no wind use full flaps. As always, do a low pass to test your flaps setting before actually touching down on the runway. If the air speed looks good on a low pass then go around and land for real. If your speed is too high or too low then adjust your flaps setting and do another low pass to check your speed again. Watch my 2nd tutorial that talks about low passes. Good luck and please post a video of your Delta wing!
Thank you.
Last week is raining and winding at my field. My plane is Hangar 9 F-22 Raptor, wingspan 1.2m, 3.7kg weight ,powered by 5S-5000mAh battery. I have installed Ar636a (taken from my T-28), made a few mods. I will try to use safe select just for few landing (wings level).
BoraB Oh wow. That is a nice plane!
BoraB Please post a flight and landing video!
when landing a micro p 47 thunderbolt should i be in high or low rates??
That is a great question. Personally I use low rates for landing, but I think it really depends on several factors. First you must consider your setup and the difference between the swing of your control surfaces between high and low rates. I think a lot of pilots might argue that high rates give you more control at slower speeds. Also, how are your thumbs calibrated?? :) I think if I used high rates on landing there would be a lot of foam and parts strewn across the runway after my landing was complete!
Seriously though, it deserves some thought and definitely deserves some experimentation. I would recommend doing a couple of low passes on low rates and a couple of low passes on high rates to see how comfortable you feel with each. Maybe you choose differently in windy versus calm conditions? You've made me very curious, so I'm going to try it both ways then next time I go out to fly! Thank you for the question and please let me know your results!
Thx for your reply. I have been experimenting with both and seem to find take off on low rates good but landing on high rates gives me better results..im using a dx4e Tx non computerised. As you mentioned at slower speeds high rates gives me better response.
Nice! I'm going to try high rates for landing on my next flight.
As a newbie my biggest problem is when the a/c is on final and I can't seem to get the aileron inputs correct when the a/c is coming towards me I get the inputs reversed. Of course when the a/c is flying away from me I put myself as if I was in the a/c and the inputs are seemless once I get established on final is when I start to over correct the inputs in the wrong direction. I wish someone would explain that skill and how to do it correctly.
Hey! What about a warbird that doesn’t have flaps? Also it isn’t SUPER powerful and can’t do verticals (I haven’t even flown it yet but I know the motor isn’t that powerful. Plane’s weight is around 2 pounds and the motor puts out around 1.8-1.9 pounds of thrust…)
No flaps landings are awesome, things are just happening a little faster, that's all! The lift bubble under the aircraft is a little more pronounced when you are moving faster, so just give yourself a little extra runway. I recommend practicing with some really low passes without touching down the first couple of approaches so you can feel that lift bubble near the ground. You will find you have a lot of responsive control if you keep the throttle applied just a little, try not to cut the throttle completely. My second landing tutorial covers this concept in a little more detail. Good luck!
@@lancecf22 thank you so much! I’ll watch the second tutorial right away! I recently built a FliteTest mustang, extremely customised and has retractable landing gear… but it doesn’t have flaps- i can fly good but this plane turned out so good I don’t wanna accidentally ruin it on a bad landing/crash 😅 Ill prolly practice your method on my trainer first (it’s a bit tail heavy so it always pitches up- can’t adjust cg cuz no space-) before I maiden my mustang… I’m still in the very beginner phase of landings… I’ve never taken off either cuz I’ve just hand launched planes… never had landing gear either… Now I’ve made one for the trainer and got retracts on mustang… thanks for the tutorial…
Edit: I watched the second video! I always cut off throttle once the plane gets close the the ground… 😅 but again, until now, my trainer was a belly lander… didn’t have gear… it does now so I’ll give it a try! Again, thank you!
I’ll update you on how my landing goes when I go out to fly again! And I’ll also update when I finally fly the mustang! I subbed :)
Man, I completely understand. When you put that much work into a new bird you don't want to fly it at all! Ha ha! I have to say I got better at repairing them than flying them. Now I always use an extremely long drill bit and then insert carbon fiber rods into the fuselage and wings to save myself some future grief. The rods are expensive, but they are a lot cheaper than having to scrap a plane. Take a video of your flights! I would love to see your new Mustang!
@@lancecf22 I most certainly will! Thanks! I did try your method on my trainer today! I put on the landing gear i made for it which are literally secured by rubberbands, and i flew it. Hand launched it and landed it on the wheels... I must say, the "throttle for climb and descent and elevator for speed" gave me SO much more control over the plane when i was near the ground... I also managed to cruise it at 50% throttle (which i thought was impossible as the motor is a bit underpowered)... I followed your tips and I had an EXTREMELY successful landing today! I'll practice more on the trainer before sending in the mustang though... But I'll record a video of the maiden and share with ya for sure! Thanks again man! I jusy had my mosy successful landing today!
@@ComradeCody3349 Feels good doesn't it?? Congratulations on your wheeled landing!
Can't land my rc plane my plane has no flaps what do I do also it's made out of foam
Lot's of RC planes do not come equipped with flaps and it's also not a good idea to use flaps on a windy day. The trick to having no flaps is to come in with a little bit more speed! I know that sounds scary, but you will have much more control over the plane with a bit more speed. Remember, you need air moving across the control surfaces to maintain control. Flaps reduce the amount of air flow needed to maintain lift, if you don't have flaps then speed is your friend. Give it a go!
lancecf22 lancecf22 oh cheers. if you look on my TH-cam where I flown my rc plane it got taken straight down as soon as it took off. How do I turn my plane aswell because it doesn't have a rudder one engine powers down and the other powers up any ideas? ✈️
same video with cessna please?
If only I had a Cessna!
Good video and information, only one mistake, you were landing with tailwind.
3pa Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Wind direction is coming from the right to left in the video and we land left to right into the wind, so no tail wind.
Ok , I thought that the windsock was pointing tail wing, then the video was perfect ;)
3pa Oh that wind sock was definitely pointing in all directions that day! it was really gusting, but the prevailing wind was right to left. You have a good eye for detail!
lancecf22. Guess it was timing, but when you landed that little ribbon was so going in the direction of the plane landing. Plenty plenty good information.
Why are you landing with the wind?
Haha, never! It's an optical illusion with that ribbon, I don't know why it looks that way in the video but yes everyone asks that
My plane doesn't descent at 50% throttle.
The throttle percentages are really just for reference because every aircraft and controller is going to be a little different. Try a few practice descents without landing to find out where your aircraft starts to descend on the throttle setting. Watch my second video about approaches and that might help a little more. Ideally you want to be able to increase/decrease your speed by pitching the airplane up and down. Pitching up should decelerate, while pitching down should accelerate. I hope this helps!
Flaps?? On RC??
Yes! Lots of RC planes come with flaps! Or if you're handy you can add flaps to your RC by making some cuts and adding a couple of servos.
I don't know what to say man, my plane is already heavy, besides, i don't really have a separate channel for that :D.
MrCyraaxz. You add flaps yet? Or a different plane?
Nice, now do that on grass !!
This is a great explanation of control inputs during slow flight: instagram.com/reel/CjBpwL_pRHI/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
The landing myth that a model airplane would slow down during landing by pulling the nose up and increase or decrease elevation only by using throttle is not true. The concept of the throttle and the elevator switching roles is a myth.
The fact is, the model airplane does not decrease airspeed by pulling the nose up. What actually happens is that by decreasing throttle, you decrease airspeed which causes the nose to dive down due to gravity and inertia. By pulling the nose up, you level the airplane while maintaining its current airspeed. The lower you throttle the slow you go, and the more you need to pull up. It's not because of the pulling the nose up of the airplane that causes it to slow down.
However, you can increase the airspeed of the plane by pulling the nose down due to increase of force that the airplane is headed and gravity. But you cannot decrease its speed while pulling up on the nose in a landing situation.
Use the elevator to pull up to level the plane on the ground and prevent nose diving on landing. Use the throttle to control both the airspeed and decent of the plane.
Fact: You'll notice that using flaps on the plane causes it to climb up and decreasing throttle causes it to fly straight. Allowing you to pull up less on the elevator.
Fact: The flap does not actually slow down the plane on landing, it TRIES to maintains its altitude, while the plane loses airspeed and altitude to land land. Try flying the plane with flaps down at half throttle and you'll notice that the plane maintains altitude and airspeed. Decrease the throttle down and the plane increases airspeed and noses down. The same happens while the plane is near the ground.
Romeo, thank you for your comment and you bring up some very valid points!
The elevator is an energy exchanger. If you don't touch the throttle and use up elevator then you exchange airspeed for altitude, if you don't touch throttle and use down elevator then you exchange altitude for airspeed. But eventually, if you maintain your elevator up/nose up then your kinetic energy will decrease and gravity takes over and you start to descend. It is a balancing act not to stall in this configuration and the physics of this are exaggerated at slower speeds. You are correct, using flaps increases lift across the wing so you can fly straight and level at a lower airspeed. However, slowing down further than the airplane will fly level the elevator (either by reducing throttle or using up elevator to exchange a little altitude for airspeed) you will notice that you can start a descend, even with a nose up attitude. This is precisely how naval aircraft approach an aircraft carrier at very slow speeds with full flaps, nose up and still come down on the deck!
The same applies for moving the throttle without elevator input. More throttle, more lift and altitude increases. Less throttle, less lift, altitude decreases.
Of course, we have to utilize all inputs when landing and rarely use one input exclusively. The instructional video is meant to highlight the main inputs for controlling the descent during landing. I encourage you to experiment and see for yourself!
Although you achieve what you want I don't subscribe to the elevator controls speed & the throttle controls altitude belief, that's been a misconception for a while now, they are what I call reaction effects. The elevator should be used to point the toy plane where you want it to go, the gad pedal should be used to control speed, that's what the gas pedal is for speed, not alt control, again its just a reaction effect.
Each to their own.
You make an excellent observation! We are using a reaction effect. We are reacting to three other forces acting on the plane when using this method: Gravity, Lift and Drag (remembering that lift increases drag).
Try this experiment: Fly straight and level and then input a little bit of up elevator and hold it. The plane will start to climb exactly as you described. But the plane is also feeling the effects of gravity and drag. As the plane climbs it also slows down! If you don't apply throttle during the climb the plane will eventually slow down to a stall and nose forward. When it noses forward the speed will increase and the plane will recover from the stall without ever apply throttle.
So yes, your elevator is controlling both altitude AND speed (although the pilot is only controlling the altitude part of the equation and the Earth is controlling the gravity and drag which slows the plane down!).
So we use these same reactions during a landing. The plane is descending because of gravity we when reduce the throttle. If we apply throttle during the decent the thrust will overcome the pull of gravity with lift and the plane will level out or climb. With slight nose forward and low throttle the drag is decreased on the plane and it will start to speed up.. If we nose up the drag is increased slowing us down but the low thrust is not enough to overcome the pull of gravity so the plane tends not to climb.
Thanks! I found you on RCGroups. This is going to be very helpful for this newbie. 🛬🛫🛬🛫🚧
Cool! Thank you for watching, I hope you will post a video of your adventures. Enjoy your new hobby!
As a newbie my biggest problem is when the a/c is on final and I can't seem to get the aileron inputs correct when the a/c is coming towards me I get the inputs reversed. Of course when the a/c is flying away from me I put myself as if I was in the a/c and the inputs are seemless once I get established on final is when I start to over correct the inputs in the wrong direction. I wish someone would explain that skill and how to do it correctly.
Try pointing your left shoulder towards the plane if it is coming in from your left, or your shoulder towards the plane if it is coming in from your right. And kind of pointing your controller as if it was oriented correctly with the cockpit when you turn your shoulder. It's a subtle move but very powerful way to set your brain in the proper orientation to not mix up your inputs!