This reminds me of the AMD Duron and Athlon days (2002 +/- ) of painting the L2 cache links with conductive paint to unlock the multiplier and allow overclocking.
Oh how I remember those k7's, also chipped a few die on those back in the day... some quit working some didn't. Lol. I use to get those used for nearly nothin then experiment with em, lots of fun.
To everyone shitting about the ample amount of thermal paste he used: Thats not your everyday paste. Thats kingpin stuff (if I aint wrong) and you wanna use that if you wanna go LN2, which this guy clearly does, that blue piece of cloth like paper between the dimm slots is there for the moisture. respek.
@Luumi What happens if the short breaks? System just shut down, or will the chip be broken permanently? I presume the silver paint have som less then ideal properties long term (?).
Love the pencil/silver paint mod. Reminds me of the old Thunderbird days. Next, maybe they'll cut a channel between the pads and we'll need to fill them with superglue. lol
@@andyk192 lol a myth? In a perfect world, you'd only have enough thermal paste to fill in microscopic gaps between the 2 metal substrates and no more. There isn't a thermal paste out there that transfers heat as effectively as copper or aluminum so over applying it like this makes no bloody sense.
I think the people commenting on the thermal paste fail to see this chip running 5.3Ghz under 70C Sure it definitely looks like way to much, but who cares if your temps are awesome. (I am curious how it would do with less vs the amount used in the video)
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Josh M lol too much Paste Ur cooler won’t mount correctly
Thermal paste is meant to fill in tiny imperfections in the metal finishing process too small to see with your eye.... Extra thermal paste will not fill in those gaps any better, it just makes a mess.
I made quite a lot of tests with different heat sources (CPUs, transistors, other ICs). Too much thermal grease makes a real mess, but thermally its not any worse than a decent amount. Just be careful not to get it into the socket. Too little however is very bad, especially in the long term. Once the paste starts to dry it contracts, which makes too little thermal grease a bad option. If you apply enough, thermal paste does work for a very long time. Depending on the heat density and the paste used it can easily work for 20+ years. With normal PC compound I would change it after 5-10 years. (For anyone interested: usually the pure white cheap grease holds up the best in long term stability, however it performs a bit worse than most PC formulas, usually (but not always) the grayer the paste, the better the heat transfer, but long term stability gets worse.) BTW he uses so much to stop condensation buildup I guess, as this clearly was (or is) an LN2 rig. (blue low temp thermal grease, towel between RAM slots etc.)
Hello, could you help me, since I have a z270i and I want to upgrade the processor to i7 9700, but I do not know if I should physically modify the processor or just with the BIOS mod, thank you
Can use some paint or similar to cover those pads that can get burned, but I have not bothered doing that. Working fine since april 2018 and no issues at all in daily use with 8700K.
Question, I have Gigabyte B250 HD3P and I was running i5 7600 without any problems, now when I bought i7 8700k, it won't power up. Is the board even compatible?
I need to ask. Since it has more or less been proven that Coffeelake CPUs can run on Z170 and Z270 boards, why did Intel decide to lock out compatibility? Does it simply come down to the money they would make selling new chipsets to motherboard vendors?
It's all about the benjamins, and before power delievery could be use as arguement they could have decide which board supports which cpu. Obviously the cheaper h- and b- line has limuted option as their power stages/power delievery are watered down version.
I read on winraid forum that someone having problem where the board starts up for a second, then shutoff, hinting intel management engine problem. Someone also hints about changing SKU. Could you please explain on this ME thing? Is there a specific ME driver version that works?
I have the z170 oc formula full atx, will these boards work with 9600k too since both are coffee lake? and do you know where i can get a bios for the z170 oc formula board that i have
Hi dude First of all,great work ! İ Have the Asus Z270-A Prime, do you think the Board is Mod-able? The Z270-A Prime comes with 10 Phase (Voltage) Controllers around the socket. İt looks very simular to the Z370-A Prime wich comes with the same amount of Phase (Voltage) Controllers, maybe its an different Controller, that is something i need to check. The Z370-A Prime supports CPU's from i3-8100 up to I9-9900K Any suggestions? Thx a lot ;) Do you have HT enabled?
Does it work for all z170/270 boards? I have asrock fatal1ty z170 gaming k4. Can the same bios work? I dont expect too high frequencys since its entry level z170 but can it work with no problem on pci ex and any other slots?
@@LuumiJuhani so either do the jumper on the board or paint the CPU pads to cause a short are still the solutions? That's what I gathered. I will look into the pad shorting if that is the case. I am not terribly concerned with the VRM power delivery because its pretty robust. Though for some reason I thought I heard of a Beta Bios for my specific board...but I cant find anything, unfortunately. I Apologize for the lengthy reply but I am just now getting in to modding and OC and you seem knowledgeable.
when i have to spend the money for 8700k i will ofcourse sell the 6th/7th gen cpu, and if thats the case i shall sell motherboard along with cpu and buy 8th gen compatible board bcoz im spending anyway , btw nice video bro i never knew such possibilities
Just on asrock? Muito bom o vídeo. Me deu um ponto de partida, sobre o que fazer. Obrigado. Não entendi nada do que você falou, mas entendi oq vc fez. Simples. Obrigado mais uma vez.
I had to put the volume up quite a bit BUT WHEN IT STARTED TO PLAY THE MUSIC IT WOKE UP MY SLEEPING SON!!! For that, no like, even though the vid was helpful mate
@@LuumiJuhani link is dead. Put the tool in rar file and change the extension and upload it to Google Drive and give the link. Thank you very much for your video very very happy with ur video
good job seems its works but its alot to do with the mainboard and if you fail you dont have any waranty but its fun you can do that and intel and mainboard branders should think when then relese new cpus we dont need to exchange mainboard everytime its comes a new cpu
if i flash the bios with the 8700k micro code will i be able to use the laptop with older cpus (aka skylake or kaby lake) as usual or will i have to reflash the motherboard again to use those older cpus?
tanx for yur promt response but i didnt explained myself very well , my motherboard doesnt have dual bios , just one bios chip so my question is if i modify my bios and add the 8700k cpu microcode and lets say does not boot or does not function properly (aka high temps , blue screens , wont boot at all ,you name it) with this moded bios i still can use my old 7700k without any issue?
If you're referring to the Clevo LGA laptops there's a couple of covfefe lake bios threads on notebookreview forums. One modder has it working fully without replacing 6700K/7700K ucode, they still work. There's another team doing it but don't yet have everything fully working yet e.g. audio boards on some models, HT on the 12 thread 8700/8700K CPUs as they are porting the bios from later clevo models (not starting with Z170/Z270). The LGA socket MSI hasn't been touched AFAIK
Ben Greening tanx for your info and you guessed right but i have an eurocom tornado f5 so i guess ill have to wait some one messes with that model , i guess youre refering to mr fox who got a 17 inch clevo working with a 8700k , i wonder if a 15 inch tornado will be able to keep the 8700k at decent temps , if not the non k version is sexy too according to ark its 65w tdp chip as opposed to 95w from the k version
You need to coat the entire motherboard in thermal paste next time.
I love this freaking motherboard! Best board I ever bought - 6600k to 9900k, amazing upgrade path!
This reminds me of the AMD Duron and Athlon days (2002 +/- ) of painting the L2 cache links with conductive paint to unlock the multiplier and allow overclocking.
Yess... Now i remembered it, AMD DURON, i used pencil
You could also unlock multiprocessor mode and force multiplier by jumping pins (iirc).Tyan had cheap dual socket boards for XPs.
Oh how I remember those k7's, also chipped a few die on those back in the day... some quit working some didn't. Lol. I use to get those used for nearly nothin then experiment with em, lots of fun.
Still running the 9700 on the z170 asus deluxe. Been running close to two years now, no issues.
Too little thermal grease.
Przemysław Tomala A nice amount of it actually.
actually too much
WTF! 75% too much of TP...haha
Clamping force should push most of it out so might no be a great deal!
r/woosh anybody?
When someone use ps/2 peripherals I know it mean business.😎 Great video.
Mostly because the usb controller freezes when using ln2
@Kerosin Fuchs I concur! This isn't an interrupt request, it's a demand!
@Kerosin Fuchs virgin USB vs chad PS/2
Hell yeah!
To everyone shitting about the ample amount of thermal paste he used:
Thats not your everyday paste. Thats kingpin stuff (if I aint wrong) and you wanna use that if you wanna go LN2, which this guy clearly does, that blue piece of cloth like paper between the dimm slots is there for the moisture.
respek.
Okay that music was way too loud for how soft your voice was, just an fyi
Yeah it is a bit.
I echo this sentiment, you'll get their in time though
yea i read in the comments and skipped to 5:57 and my ears exploded
*Thermal lake*
*I had to turn my volume waaaay up to hear your voice. Then you play that loud ass music and woke my sleeping baby up* ... Thannnnks DICK lol
5:57 ... *screams internally*
just epic idiot
I Screamed externally
:'D
Like nuttela on bread ;-)
it's the russian way - more is always better x)
@Luumi What happens if the short breaks? System just shut down, or will the chip be broken permanently? I presume the silver paint have som less then ideal properties long term (?).
Love the pencil/silver paint mod. Reminds me of the old Thunderbird days. Next, maybe they'll cut a channel between the pads and we'll need to fill them with superglue. lol
Never expect hardcore overclockers to be gentle with paste application lol
Good video regardless
I suppose this really lives up to being a test bench only when it just needs to work but does not need to look prettily implemented.
More thermal paste please, and more tubing knick.OMG
Good painting tutorial
Jesus Christ that thermal paste application man. You've got like 4 times as much as you need.
Never too much of a good thing.
Pense que exageraban con los comentarios, pero hasta yo me asuste cuando lo vi aplicando la pasta. Cmamo
@@andyk192 lol a myth? In a perfect world, you'd only have enough thermal paste to fill in microscopic gaps between the 2 metal substrates and no more. There isn't a thermal paste out there that transfers heat as effectively as copper or aluminum so over applying it like this makes no bloody sense.
This guy is an extreme overclocker with multiple world records. Who tf are you?
Asus Z270-P Prime with i7 8700K?
I think the people commenting on the thermal paste fail to see this chip running 5.3Ghz under 70C
Sure it definitely looks like way to much, but who cares if your temps are awesome. (I am curious how it would do with less vs the amount used in the video)
Josh M lol too much Paste Ur cooler won’t mount correctly
Thermal paste is meant to fill in tiny imperfections in the metal finishing process too small to see with your eye.... Extra thermal paste will not fill in those gaps any better, it just makes a mess.
I made quite a lot of tests with different heat sources (CPUs, transistors, other ICs). Too much thermal grease makes a real mess, but thermally its not any worse than a decent amount. Just be careful not to get it into the socket.
Too little however is very bad, especially in the long term. Once the paste starts to dry it contracts, which makes too little thermal grease a bad option.
If you apply enough, thermal paste does work for a very long time. Depending on the heat density and the paste used it can easily work for 20+ years. With normal PC compound I would change it after 5-10 years. (For anyone interested: usually the pure white cheap grease holds up the best in long term stability, however it performs a bit worse than most PC formulas, usually (but not always) the grayer the paste, the better the heat transfer, but long term stability gets worse.)
BTW he uses so much to stop condensation buildup I guess, as this clearly was (or is) an LN2 rig. (blue low temp thermal grease, towel between RAM slots etc.)
The music is almost more excessive than all that smurf butter
smurf butter, I like that lmfao
wow didnt know you could apply thermal paste with a shotgun.
Hello, could you help me, since I have a z270i and I want to upgrade the processor to i7 9700, but I do not know if I should physically modify the processor or just with the BIOS mod, thank you
Check my 2020 update about this topic. Shows all of the steps.
Luumi - when it comes to Isolating the pads - are you saying that is the same thing as running the ground wire? Also a big thanks for doing this.
^ +1
Can use some paint or similar to cover those pads that can get burned, but I have not bothered doing that. Working fine since april 2018 and no issues at all in daily use with 8700K.
how did you get an 8700k to run at 5.4 under 1.3v ...
It is mostly about great cpu sample but the board vrm is very good with 1mhz switching frequency. Temps were kept under 60-65c on all cores.
Great video, and: Luumi on kova jätkä!
Next video: How to eat tacos on a plate.
Question, I have Gigabyte B250 HD3P and I was running i5 7600 without any problems, now when I bought i7 8700k, it won't power up. Is the board even compatible?
Overclockers normally use tons of thermal paste. It does not hurt anything. Anyone notice, it seems the board is covered in vaseline.
I have b250 chipset, Can I get the upgrade or its no compatible.. Thank you
BEAST MODE! my hero for fun tech but easy on the thermal paste brah!
I need to ask. Since it has more or less been proven that Coffeelake CPUs can run on Z170 and Z270 boards, why did Intel decide to lock out compatibility? Does it simply come down to the money they would make selling new chipsets to motherboard vendors?
Mostly yes and they just want to play safe with power capabilities, they just should have done it already with z170.
It's all about the benjamins, and before power delievery could be use as arguement they could have decide which board supports which cpu. Obviously the cheaper h- and b- line has limuted option as their power stages/power delievery are watered down version.
Cash
Exactly... mo money. Can't sell new chipsets and mobos if customers can just upgrade the CPU.
@@MrFoxRox not true, they want the 8700k to be completely stable first that's why new MBs are needed
Good work :) Im also trying to run 8700k on Apex IX
At least let us know how it goes.
Hello how are you?? I have an asus prime z270-A mobo and I have an i7 9700 processor, I would like to know if this card is somehow useful for it?
Will this work on a AsRock Fatality Z170 Gaming K6+?
how about Z77MA-G45... can it use 8 generation ? with this method? and how I get the bios mod for this
any update on compatibility for running coffee lake on z270?
are there any boards which can maintain full functionality?
Luumi this applies to the larger ASRock card whithout the m model and this wire interferes with something in the operation of the motherboard ,thanks
good video guide :)
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Will this work on HP 400 G4 SFF? I want to put 9th gen pentium. It only support 6/7th gen
I read on winraid forum that someone having problem where the board starts up for a second, then shutoff, hinting intel management engine problem. Someone also hints about changing SKU. Could you please explain on this ME thing? Is there a specific ME driver version that works?
I have the z170 oc formula full atx, will these boards work with 9600k too since both are coffee lake? and do you know where i can get a bios for the z170 oc formula board that i have
you think is possible to make over the gigabyte z170 gaming 7 ??
Hi, i have an asus b150m motherboard, how can i run an 9gen processors?
Never knew colgate could be used as thermal compound. But was a whole tube necessary?
I have a Asus Maximus IX Formula Strix Z270 I spent a lot of cash on that Board . Do you think I can get an i9 9900k running on it?
I have a z270g and worked with my 8600k.
Hi dude
First of all,great work !
İ Have the Asus Z270-A Prime, do you think the Board is Mod-able? The Z270-A Prime comes with 10 Phase (Voltage) Controllers around the socket. İt looks very simular to the Z370-A Prime wich comes with the same amount of Phase (Voltage) Controllers, maybe its an different Controller, that is something i need to check. The Z370-A Prime supports CPU's from i3-8100 up to I9-9900K Any suggestions? Thx a lot ;)
Do you have HT enabled?
What about the PCI-E slot? Will it work without problems?
Does it work with the Z170 Gaming K4? What is the bios preparation process, is there any bios that works?
asrock z170m formula. Resizable bar enable???
Hi Luumi, just awesome work! I have another question for You. If a skylake FCLK OC bios was modded, could that OC non K coffelake cpus?
great vid man
Share it :D .
Does it work for all z170/270 boards? I have asrock fatal1ty z170 gaming k4. Can the same bios work? I dont expect too high frequencys since its entry level z170 but can it work with no problem on pci ex and any other slots?
Maybe try a cake decorators envelope for the thermal paste.
Wonder if this will work on my MSI z170a gaming m5
Watch my 2020 update video.
@@LuumiJuhani so either do the jumper on the board or paint the CPU pads to cause a short are still the solutions? That's what I gathered. I will look into the pad shorting if that is the case. I am not terribly concerned with the VRM power delivery because its pretty robust. Though for some reason I thought I heard of a Beta Bios for my specific board...but I cant find anything, unfortunately. I Apologize for the lengthy reply but I am just now getting in to modding and OC and you seem knowledgeable.
You buy a lot of thermal paste?... asking for a friend.
it's possible to run an i5 8600K in a gigabyte aorus gaming 5 z270x? In that case. How can it be done?
I have asus z270i strix, can i put 9700k in it?
would a Asus Prime H110M-P work too?
Maybe, check my 2020 update about this topic.
I have similar board Asrock z170 Gaming K4, will this bios work with it?
Why the music is so silent? Make it louder
Can I put an 8700k on an ASUS z170 pro gaming? How can I make this mod with out an 6700k
Do you think the z170 pro gamer from asus could handle this 8700k at 5ghz ?
Wow, can You please leave a guide how to setup all this numbers in RAM section of a BIOS?
5.1ghz -2 avx offset ~74°c max gameload ok for an everyday use?
when i have to spend the money for 8700k i will ofcourse sell the 6th/7th gen cpu, and if thats the case i shall sell motherboard along with cpu and buy 8th gen compatible board bcoz im spending anyway , btw nice video bro i never knew such possibilities
Where to get custom bios for msi z270 gaming m7 motherboard?
me too
Just on asrock?
Muito bom o vídeo. Me deu um ponto de partida, sobre o que fazer. Obrigado. Não entendi nada do que você falou, mas entendi oq vc fez. Simples. Obrigado mais uma vez.
You have nikolai's voice from re 3 original xD
voce e meu idolo
Can it run on Asrock Z170 OC Formula? Non m-ATX version,
If have where can i get the bios firmware?
bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/intel-coffee-lake-z170-z270-kellotukset-ja-kokemukset.91700/
People criticizing TIM application perhaps should note that an overclocking expert knows what he's doing.
I had to put the volume up quite a bit BUT WHEN IT STARTED TO PLAY THE MUSIC IT WOKE UP MY SLEEPING SON!!! For that, no like, even though the vid was helpful mate
5.3ghz @ 1.3v??? wtf??? can you elaborate on that switching frequency thingy? i did some research and nothing found about it.
Avx settings, basically he runs at 5ghz most time, at drops to probably 4.8ghz under load, aka.. Not an actual 5ghz + oc
Will there be any future problems? Like if I try to do any bios or drivers update? Will I get locked out due to this hack?
I haven't had any, drivers for the motherboard work fine no matter what cpu is in.
holy shit that thermal paste application is some of the worst ive ever seen in my life
more ice cream on that cpu buddy..
Watch the latest version.
@@LuumiJuhani link is dead. Put the tool in rar file and change the extension and upload it to Google Drive and give the link. Thank you very much for your video very very happy with ur video
good job seems its works but its alot to do with the mainboard and if you fail you dont have any waranty but its fun you can do that and intel and mainboard branders should think when then relese new cpus we dont need to exchange mainboard everytime its comes a new cpu
Great work! Can u give information how to modificate bios for z270+Cofee Lake?
You should check the guide at win-raid for this, there are bioses already to some models like Maximus 9 Apex.
god damn it the music scared the shit out of me dude.
Will this work on a z270x gaming 7? I'm curious since It's a solid board, is it worth going for the mod and how will I go about it?
this cpu is an absolute holy grail of silicon. only 1.3v for 5.3 ghz??? my i5 8600k did 4.9 on 1.311 and 5.1 or 5.2 on 1.46!!
6600K more than 1.5V for 4.8GHz
Any one knows if a MSI M5 Z170A it's compatible with this mod?
My z270p-d3 support this mod??
does it work on a z170x gaming 6? i was looking for information on the community but i didn´t be able to find it, could you help me?
Do you have an answer?
Lorenzo Clara no me respondieron :(
if i flash the bios with the 8700k micro code will i be able to use the laptop with older cpus (aka skylake or kaby lake) as usual or will i have to reflash the motherboard again to use those older cpus?
If you mean motherboard like this sure if you keep an old bios on the 2nd bios chip.
tanx for yur promt response but i didnt explained myself very well , my motherboard doesnt have dual bios , just one bios chip so my question is if i modify my bios and add the 8700k cpu microcode and lets say does not boot or does not function properly (aka high temps , blue screens , wont boot at all ,you name it) with this moded bios i still can use my old 7700k without any issue?
Yes it should work if you just add the microcodes to an existing bios I think, but I havent tried making bios myself.
If you're referring to the Clevo LGA laptops there's a couple of covfefe lake bios threads on notebookreview forums. One modder has it working fully without replacing 6700K/7700K ucode, they still work. There's another team doing it but don't yet have everything fully working yet e.g. audio boards on some models, HT on the 12 thread 8700/8700K CPUs as they are porting the bios from later clevo models (not starting with Z170/Z270). The LGA socket MSI hasn't been touched AFAIK
Ben Greening tanx for your info and you guessed right but i have an eurocom tornado f5 so i guess ill have to wait some one messes with that model , i guess youre refering to mr fox who got a 17 inch clevo working with a 8700k , i wonder if a 15 inch tornado will be able to keep the 8700k at decent temps , if not the non k version is sexy too according to ark its 65w tdp chip as opposed to 95w from the k version
Asus Z270 prime with i5 8600K?
Next video, how to use 6850k on Z170/Z270
have you tested qqbz in z170/z270?
What is the paint you used to cover pins?
Just some conductive silver paint.
I don't think you put enough thermal paste on there bud
Good first video Luumi
super! Whera i can find bios for my Asrock Z170 Extreme 6???
You have to ask to the official Asrock support 😊
Can this be done on Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 8?
yes with a custom bios and way to force start.
Hello, would the Gigabyte Z270XP-SLI happen to be compatible?
5400 by 1.3v crazy crystal or the impact of the motherboard?
I think both :D .
Wrong readings ?
is this even serious???
Congratz, miker2ka here
Do you really setisfied with thermal amount u applied or still.......
Doesn't matter really, excess will be pushed out.
@@LuumiJuhani Thanks