It depends on the application. So far the gold standard fail-safe is the mousse bib, this is why Pro’s use this almost exclusively as there is no time to mess around with a flat or worse a tire dismount. If Tubliss goes flat on the low - pressure chamber the performance decreases rapidly until plugged, if the high pressure chamber goes flat you are proper f#*%d as the rim lock is no more. The reason I mention the Tubliss is that it can provide some of the best traction available when set up correctly, but we typically won’t use during racing because of often likely failure in extreme conditions. So why try the Lucioli? In our testing we have found the Lucioli to provide at least equal traction to the Tubliss, but not have the same degree of potential failure. The main reason is that the Lucioli has 2 Metal rim-locks that are molded into the 7mm thick tube carcass providing 2 mechanical rim-locks. The Lucioli weighs 7lbs (we haven’t noticed a performance deficit with the increase weight which is 2x over a mousse and even more than Tubliss) the mass of the Lucioli fills the tire casing significantly enough that we feel that even if the Lucioli was punctured it would perform much better than a compromised Tubliss with having enough mass around the rim being held by 2 rim-locks and valve stem. Fortunately or unfortunately during extreme use none of us have popped or knowingly flattened one and maybe we are too cheap to knife one to see what happens (we probably will have to as we can’t seem to destroy one and we’ve tried) . Hope this helps, FYI we are running the Lucioli @2-3 psi and sometimes even lower 😬.
Thank you for the info. Had to do these blind yesterday. Hadn’t found this video yet. Unfortunately, the instructions didn’t state to put the washers inside the rim. Now I’m concerned.
Hi James, I've been running these since 2019 with great success. However the last couple of tubes I have had both punctured quite easily. On examination I found the wall thickness to vary around the tube. I think the QC has gone down a little since I started using them and the rubber feels different to my original one that I have with around 300hrs on now. Sorry but I had to cringe when you were taking the tyre off those valve stem threads are delicate. Good channel content 👍 You may find this interesting. th-cam.com/video/1zFYeYcIDZE/w-d-xo.html
Ok, you've inspired me to give the Lucioli another shot! I liked the performance, but hated the mounting/dismounting process previously as I didn't have a good technique for it.
Nice video! One question: On the valve, are u using two nuts? Do you put one nut on the inside of the rim and another on the outside? I've done this but i think that the valve doesn't goes as far as it should. So, should I eliminate that inside nut? I've seen you on Hixpania man, nice job!
hey James, after i mangled my tubliss at ditrocks last year and then having a chat with you, ive decided to give lucioli a chance. about to go mount it now. im going to ride a lot of sharp rocks and stuff in sicily next week, if it survives that im pretty sure its ready for romania. you made the install look easy. lets see if i can make it in time to watch cops too
Hi! This is Rosemary with Inside Enduro. Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. Yes, you run mousses in the front as well - especially if you don't want to get a flat during a race. You don't drill front mousses, as the front tire performs a different purpose than the rear.
If you go to www.insideenduro.com and go to the Mousse Drill page, there's an instruction page that lists some tried-and-tested mousse and tire combinations.
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It depends on the application. So far the gold standard fail-safe is the mousse bib, this is why Pro’s use this almost exclusively as there is no time to mess around with a flat or worse a tire dismount. If Tubliss goes flat on the low - pressure chamber the performance decreases rapidly until plugged, if the high pressure chamber goes flat you are proper f#*%d as the rim lock is no more. The reason I mention the Tubliss is that it can provide some of the best traction available when set up correctly, but we typically won’t use during racing because of often likely failure in extreme conditions. So why try the Lucioli? In our testing we have found the Lucioli to provide at least equal traction to the Tubliss, but not have the same degree of potential failure. The main reason is that the Lucioli has 2 Metal rim-locks that are molded into the 7mm thick tube carcass providing 2 mechanical rim-locks. The Lucioli weighs 7lbs (we haven’t noticed a performance deficit with the increase weight which is 2x over a mousse and even more than Tubliss) the mass of the Lucioli fills the tire casing significantly enough that we feel that even if the Lucioli was punctured it would perform much better than a compromised Tubliss with having enough mass around the rim being held by 2 rim-locks and valve stem. Fortunately or unfortunately during extreme use none of us have popped or knowingly flattened one and maybe we are too cheap to knife one to see what happens (we probably will have to as we can’t seem to destroy one and we’ve tried) . Hope this helps, FYI we are running the Lucioli @2-3 psi and sometimes even lower 😬.
Thank you for all the details - - huge help. What are the tire irons you are using? Well done . . . thanks again
Motion Pro Extra Long Steel Tire Iron 16". Here's the link: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/motion-pro-extra-long-steel-tire-iron-p
Do you run this over a mousse bib now? What’s the advantage or disadvantage of each?
Yes for the rear tire we are! We find that using 1-2psi we get better traction than a drilled out bib
Thanks for the good explanations and visuals. Out of curiosity, are you watching Cops at 4 am or pm?
Both!
Thank you for the info. Had to do these blind yesterday. Hadn’t found this video yet. Unfortunately, the instructions didn’t state to put the washers inside the rim. Now I’m concerned.
I have ran them with and without washers to test. i had no damage not using washers but i would recommend to use the washers.
Thanks for making the video.
Hi James, I've been running these since 2019 with great success. However the last couple of tubes I have had both punctured quite easily. On examination I found the wall thickness to vary around the tube. I think the QC has gone down a little since I started using them and the rubber feels different to my original one that I have with around 300hrs on now. Sorry but I had to cringe when you were taking the tyre off those valve stem threads are delicate. Good channel content 👍
You may find this interesting. th-cam.com/video/1zFYeYcIDZE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the link!
this is a genius trick
Ok, you've inspired me to give the Lucioli another shot! I liked the performance, but hated the mounting/dismounting process previously as I didn't have a good technique for it.
They are a bear!
How do you guys like the mitas compared to the Michelin xtreme?
Mitas is a great alternative! Michelin is no longer available
Nice video! One question: On the valve, are u using two nuts? Do you put one nut on the inside of the rim and another on the outside? I've done this but i think that the valve doesn't goes as far as it should. So, should I eliminate that inside nut? I've seen you on Hixpania man, nice job!
hey James, after i mangled my tubliss at ditrocks last year and then having a chat with you, ive decided to give lucioli a chance. about to go mount it now. im going to ride a lot of sharp rocks and stuff in sicily next week, if it survives that im pretty sure its ready for romania. you made the install look easy. lets see if i can make it in time to watch cops too
Im sure You have seen the Video of the Mr. Luccioli hitting the thing with a sharp Machette?....I would live to see that done again
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Do you tape the drop center of rim or use a rim strip? Or maybe this tube doesn't need any of that?
We also tape drop center with duct tape
thank you man,they help
Awesome!
Run them in the front too?
Hi! This is Rosemary with Inside Enduro. Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. Yes, you run mousses in the front as well - especially if you don't want to get a flat during a race. You don't drill front mousses, as the front tire performs a different purpose than the rear.
If you go to www.insideenduro.com and go to the Mousse Drill page, there's an instruction page that lists some tried-and-tested mousse and tire combinations.
Nice Step Brothers referecne